[vinman]

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During his podcast on Thursday, Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew discussed problems with the far left, racism, and Carolla’s simple success tips on family and education.

After suggesting that Anthony Weiner should insist that his name is actually pronounced ‘Whiner’, in order to deflect the jokes about him, Carolla discussed what he perceives as the racist-baiting of the left.

Carolla: “I did HuffPo yesterday… They wanted to get into why I called them ‘assholes’, basically, for taking my Gavin Newsome thing. They did what a lot of folks on the left do, which is they take a problem… Then they take the person who would like to find the root of the problem, label him a racist, offer no solutions for the problem, other than me and my racism and then move on. As conquering heroes, by the way. They make proclamations of a problem, and if you offer a serious solution to the problem…that becomes hate speak. I don’t know if you know this, but suggesting that families stay together and focus on education has become hate speak. Does that seem like hate speak to you? … So I get into it with [Lieutenant Governor of California] Gavin Newsom, the headline on the Huffington Post is, ‘Carolla wants to know what’s wrong with blacks and Hispanics.’ Is that what happened?… It’s not.”

The conversation with Newsom, in May, centered on Carolla attacking the Lieutenant Governor for not having a clear answer about why poverty strikes African-Americans and Hispanics in such high numbers.

Dr. Drew chimed in that “We [white people] are not allowed to weigh-in on much nowadays. Free speech is a fallacy.”

Carolla then replayed and commentated on his discussion on Tuesday with HuffPost Live.

CAROLLA: I gave him the answer which is family and education and we can all get out of this mess and he said it was more complicated than that.

HUFFPO: It is more complicated than that. It is much harder to get out of a certain income bracket if you are born into it…

CAROLLA: And that’s why you have to focus on family and education.

HUFFPO: It won’t solve everything.

CAROLLA: It would solve everything.

HUFFPO: Just family and education? What about the drug war that we have, the school to prison pipeline…

CAROLLA: The school to prison pipeline — if you focused on education, I think would interrupt the school to prison pipeline. Unless there’s physically a pipeline.

HUFFPO: Yeah, I guess schools are focusing less on education and more on reprimanding kids.

CAROLLA: Her argument, is what, about the minorities being expelled disproportionately from school? I would argue once again, family and education is going to interrupt that. But she wants to focus on why someone’s being suspended for fighting, or whatever reasons you suspend someone for. That’s been around for a long time. This hasn’t. What does she want to focus on? She wants less discipline. [She thinks] that certain cultures are being disciplined at a higher rate than other cultures.

Carolla then went on a impassioned rant about the “super left-wing cool guy comedy club” that despite their claims of his racism, are in fact the racist ones for “treating races like kids” that “can’t handle the truth.”

“You want to know what’s racist? Treating races like kids,” Carolla said. “Like they can’t handle the truth. Like they can’t pull themselves up by their own boot-straps. What’s racist is all the super-scared white people, who live in the fuckin’ triple-gated communities who are scared shitless about certain races and don’t believe, in their heart — ultimate racism — that they’re capable of doing what they’re capable of doing. That’s racism.”

“Me asking somebody…to engage in a behavior that I know would lead to a path to success is not racist… Look, listen, there’s a club in this town… The cool guy comedy club is super left-wing, throws around a lot of terms like ‘the pipeline from schools to prisons’ and ‘voter suppression’ and things like that,” Carolla continued. “The little things that you and I wouldn’t think of as a big issue, such as getting valid ID in the state that you live in, or focusing on schoolwork and education and homework and things like that. These are the things that they don’t think that certain cultures are up to. And so they use that and they sit up on top of Mount Pious, and they look down, and they throw around these terms, and then they all go to their parties that don’t involve any of these nationalities, and they smoke weed and they talk about what a racist I am.”

Additionally, Carolla attacked what he saw as the narcissistic attitude that leads people to call others racists, sexists or homophobes.

“You have to understand, every time somebody says, ‘you’re racist’, ‘you’re sexist’, ‘you’re homophobic’, really what they’re saying is, ‘I’m not’, ‘I’m better.’ It’s not really about me, it’s about them,” Carolla said. “It’s much more to do with them than does with me… It’s mainly a narcism. ‘You are fat. Thus, I am skinny.’ ‘You are racist. Thus, I’m evolved.’ ‘You’re homophobic. Thus, I am not.’ You see what I’m saying? All the finger pointing is really about self-congratulation.”

Dr. Drew warned Adam about the possibilities of the government prosecuting him for being perceived as a racist.

“Do you have any fear that the government-overreach now becomes the daddy, the boss, that you get the Justice Department coming in here because somebody rings a bell and says, ‘Adam Carolla’s a dangerous guy, you need to investigate him’, and they find some ‘t’ not crossed in your OSHA regulations. You know what I mean? They could fuck you up. Government overreach is here, man,” Drew said.

Carolla responded, “Oh no, I’m sure of it.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/01/caroll...z2yYEScZ3W

[Screwston]

Carolla is right. I've said it on here many times. Liberals view minorities as poor little peons that need their help which is racist whether they admit it or not. Its kind of like a slap in the face to minorities who have their shit together, but get lumped in with the bad ones by these people.

How are his books? He was funny on the Man Show.

[J DOE]

Why are people (specifically liberals) so against the idea that people turn out better when raised in a traditional family unit. Women want to slut around so they cover their ears and shout to drown out the overwhelming evidence in favor of this point at the expense of their children. I agree with Carolla.

[Muk]

Another one they say: "You're on the wrong side of history!"
As if they KNOW that they're right, and that they, themself will be in the books kicking it with MLK, Rosa Parks and Caesar Chavez.
If we don't agree with them, then We're the Confederates, The Uncle Toms, The Nazis

[Dagonet]

Reminds me of the way me & McQueen talk on our podcast. Always worried the black government helicopters are gonna swoop in and take us away.

[Christian McQueen]

Glad to see Dagonet and I aren't the only men not afraid of speaking up about these issues.

I'm coming back with a damn fire on the April 24th show.

[All or Nothing]

I have been thinking about this lately.

You know what is truly racist? The fact that the public education system splits is funded through property taxes that are split up by districts. Children in rich white districts get superior educations than poor black districts due to better funding.

You know what else is truly racist? The fact that the war on drugs focuses on imprisoning minorities, so that the privatized prison system can have a larger number slaves to increase profit margins. Slavery of convicted criminals is legal in the United States.

It is hilarious to think that both segregation and slavery exist to this day, only it is done in subverted ways to prevent public outcry and to suppress minorities perpetually.

[DJ-Matt]

Full huff video here: http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment...3edc0003bd

[Travesty]

^^ Why are poorer Asian immigrant families able to produce children that become doctors and engineers so often if there is so much minority suppression going on?

[j r]

It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that white people aren't allowed to have politically incorrect opinions anymore. And yet, everywhere I turn there are white people expressing politically incorrect opinions.

This complaint is a bit overblown.

[Beyond Borders]

(04-11-2014 10:33 AM)j r Wrote:  

It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that white people aren't allowed to have politically incorrect opinions anymore. And yet, everywhere I turn there are white people expressing politically incorrect opinions.

This complaint is a bit overblown.

And being called a racist for it. As well as having to fear being targeted by the government.

Anyways, much like men getting fed up about gender issues and pushing back, I think a lot of white men are getting tired of being demonized and about PC restrictions on their freedom of speech and pushing back. Which is why more are saying fuck it to fears of reprisal.

By the way, you could also say:

"It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that black people don't have as many educational opportunities. And yet, everywhere I turn there are black people walking around colleges.

This complaint is a bit overblown."

Not saying anything about blacks and educational opportunities. Just making a point.

[Dusty]

Washington DC spends $30,000 a year per student in public school, yet the educational results are piss poor. The problem is not money. The problem is the deplorable family life's of these kids, and the corrupt public school system.

[Enigma]

(04-11-2014 10:33 AM)j r Wrote:  

It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that white people aren't allowed to have politically incorrect opinions anymore. And yet, everywhere I turn there are white people expressing politically incorrect opinions.

This complaint is a bit overblown.

The founder of this forum was targeted by a civil rights organization for expressing politically incorrect opinions

[Van Zan]

Even the education part is directly derived from family. Without a stable household and parents who are invested, education is generally wasted on a child.

[Samseau]

It is impossible to separate education from family. If the kid is fucked up, chances are over 80% that the family is fucked up (especially the mother).

It's funny, you see (American) black men bitch about (American) black women all the time. Black men claim black women are lousy. Tons of them prefer white women, or going to Brazil, etc. White men take black men on their word that black women suck, it looks obvious just from talking to most black women they have serious entitlement issues.

Yet what does it mean to actually criticize a black woman? It means to criticize the black family, because women are the central components of all families. Thus to say black women are fucked up obviously implies that black families will be fucked up.

But if a white guy says anything about the black family, he's a racist.

So if the brothas on this board wonder why black women are mostly terrible, it's because they are beyond reproach from whites.

Black men, on the other hand, can be thrown in jail. But do anything to a black woman and the PC police will destroy you (career wise, reputation wise, etc).

[j r]

(04-11-2014 10:48 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 10:33 AM)j r Wrote:  

It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that white people aren't allowed to have politically incorrect opinions anymore. And yet, everywhere I turn there are white people expressing politically incorrect opinions.

This complaint is a bit overblown.

And being called a racist for it. As well as having to fear being targeted by the government.

Anyways, much like men getting fed up about gender issues and pushing back, I think a lot of white men are getting tired of being demonized and about PC restrictions on their freedom of speech and pushing back. Which is why more are saying fuck it to fears of reprisal.

By the way, you could also say:

"It's funny, I hear complaints all the time that black people don't have as many educational opportunities. And yet, everywhere I turn there are black people walking around colleges.

This complaint is a bit overblown."

Not saying anything about blacks and educational opportunities. Just making a point.

So your argument is that "they do it too!" That's the lowest form of argumentation there is.

Yes, Roosh was named by an organization that specializes in making overblown claims that various groups are hate organizations. He was also defended in a number of fairly mainstream publications and most people who know anything about the SPLC know enough to not take it seriously. And this site is still operating. The government hasn't shown up to shut it down.

It's to the point where guys complaining about victimized by political correctness are starting to sound like feminists complaining about the patriarchy. There has probably never been a time where the average person has more freedom and opportunity to speak his mind than right now. And yet people still complain. I guess it's just the human condition.

[Samseau]

^ Is that why we are all writing behind alias's j r? Because of how much freedom we have

[Christian McQueen]

"There has probably never been a time where the average person has more freedom and opportunity to speak his mind than right now"

[Dusty]

(04-11-2014 06:30 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"There has probably never been a time where the average person has more freedom and opportunity to speak his mind than right now"

[soup]

It will never be PC to talk about game out in the open.

[NY Digital]

(04-11-2014 12:56 PM)j r Wrote:  

There has probably never been a time where the average person has more freedom and opportunity to speak his mind than right now.

You're kidding us right?

Do you even know what's been happening in current events?

How anyone with traditional values is absolutely demonized?

Come on man.

[Dusty]

(04-11-2014 07:04 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 12:56 PM)j r Wrote:  

There has probably never been a time where the average person has more freedom and opportunity to speak his mind than right now.

You're kidding us right?

Do you even know what's been happening in current events?

How anyone with traditional values is absolutely demonized?

Come on man.

His statement is 100% true...as long as your views are in compliance with PC dogma.

[Veloce]

(04-11-2014 11:27 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

It is impossible to separate education from family. If the kid is fucked up, chances are over 80% that the family is fucked up (especially the mother).

Anyone with any relatives or friends that work as teachers can attest to this.

Teachers are getting pressure from parents, administrators, and society as a whole to raise kids and do the parents' job for them. They're no longer educators but substitute parents. There is zero support and reinforcement coming from home.

If a child comes from an unstable or otherwise broken home, there is literally zero reason for them to be in the education system and they bring the whole thing down. It's essentially a daycare center at that point. Educators are only there to present information; it's up to the parents to reinforce the process.

[Samseau]

(04-11-2014 07:10 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 11:27 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

It is impossible to separate education from family. If the kid is fucked up, chances are over 80% that the family is fucked up (especially the mother).

Anyone with any relatives or friends that work as teachers can attest to this.

Teachers are getting pressure from parents, administrators, and society as a whole to raise kids and do the parents' job for them. They're no longer educators but substitute parents. There is zero support and reinforcement coming from home.

If a child comes from an unstable or otherwise broken home, there is literally zero reason for them to be in the education system and they bring the whole thing down. It's essentially a daycare center at that point. Educators are only there to present information; it's up to the parents to reinforce the process.

And this is why universal education does not work.

Education happens at HOME, school is just icing on the cake.

[soup]

(04-11-2014 11:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 07:10 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 11:27 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

It is impossible to separate education from family. If the kid is fucked up, chances are over 80% that the family is fucked up (especially the mother).

Anyone with any relatives or friends that work as teachers can attest to this.

Teachers are getting pressure from parents, administrators, and society as a whole to raise kids and do the parents' job for them. They're no longer educators but substitute parents. There is zero support and reinforcement coming from home.

If a child comes from an unstable or otherwise broken home, there is literally zero reason for them to be in the education system and they bring the whole thing down. It's essentially a daycare center at that point. Educators are only there to present information; it's up to the parents to reinforce the process.

And this is why universal education does not work.

Education happens at HOME, school is just icing on the cake.

Correction:

Parenting happens at home.

Education can take place outside of the home.

It's fucked that teachers are expected to be parents, but kids need to get education.