[velkrum]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-home.html

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the man began beating the woman, at one point slamming her onto a car parked in the driveway.
Bell said the woman was begging for help

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In a bid to stop him driving off with the woman, Bell's brother then punched the man.
However, the assault enraged the beaten woman who shouted that they'd be back to 'settle things,' Bell recalls.

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the man and woman who were fighting later returned with friends and shot up their car and house, killing Brown while she hid their 2-year-old son under a bed.

[Glaucon]

“No good deed goes unpunished”

[Tuthmosis]

Death to every last white knight.

[Faust]

Well... that's what happens, yeah.

[Jukes]

The crazy thing is the woman beater could had die by the owner hands for being on his property . Another thing , was this woman switch very fast .

[JoyStick]

The idiot should've mind his own business. Nobody asked him to be captain save-a-hoe.

[azulsombra]

Yikes!

Another tale of.....When White Knighting Goes Wrong.

People take all these superhero movies too seriously. Unless your an eccentric playboy billionaire with extensive martial arts training and a bulletproof suit mind your own business.


If your truly concerned call the cops that's what they get paid for.

[velkrum]

Calling the cops would have been the best way to handle the situation but it still takes time for police to arrive;
seconds could mean life or death.

[azulsombra]

(03-21-2014 05:07 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

Calling the cops would have been the best way to handle the situation but it still takes time for police to arrive;
seconds could mean life or death.

In this case choosing to intervene meant death.......but only for the white knight. The original "victim" was fine. Fuck that, police response times are not my concern. A simple phone call was the only possible duty he had as a citizen for some random ass broad. If it had been a dude whooping another guys ass he wouldnt have jumped in so quick.

[Vicious]

Let's keep things in perspective her.

Saving a woman getting her head slammed into a car is now white knighting?

Get real.

Obviously a better case for the police to handle but this is a good man doing a good deed. Unfortunately it was a good deed for gutter trash.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Here is a simple to test that determines whether a behaviour constitutes white knighting:

Would you instinctively charge in to save a dude getting his head slammed into a car?

I doubt it. You'd be more likely to assume that the situation isn't black and white and refuse to risk your life and limb for a stranger.

[velkrum]

There are few instances in which bystanders will watch 2 guys fight each other to the death; A majority of the time people WILL step in to stop a fight between men (I have stopped quite a few fights).

Truth be told I have never seen a fight between 2 guys (excluding gangs) that did not end with people jumping in to stop it; or 1 of the guys calling it quits and walking away.

The more civilized the area the higher the probability of people intervening.

I agree with Vicious. Good guy doing a good thing for the wrong person.

[Hotwheels]

Some of the responses in this thread remind me of McQueens' post about game versus lifestyle and how so many guys here see things as only black and white.

Life is not black and white.

[Teutatis]

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

[Ziltoid]

(03-21-2014 08:25 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

It IS her problem, what makes it anyone else's? If you see a guy hitting a girl, he has probably hit her before, and yet she's stuck with him anyway... In spite of having more than ample resources to escape from his clutches and have him thrown in jail. This isn't Saudi Arabia, I can't think of anything besides rape that is taken as seriously and is as stigmatized as domestic abuse.

Absolutely zero sympathy for most women involved in domestic abuse. Hook up with trashy meathead alcoholics and I dunno what you were expecting. Some women clearly aren't satisfied unless they're being abused, mentally or physically.

[Hotwheels]

(03-21-2014 08:25 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

Not only that, but the guy basically deserved to be killed for being a "white knight".

I'm not the most empathetic person but damn...

[Tuthmosis]

(03-21-2014 08:25 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

Yes. I don't know the backstory, which could be anything from kicking him in the balls two minutes earlier to making him raise another man's kids. Would you intervene if you saw a man doing it to another man? Be honest. If not, you're a white knight.

[xpatplayer]

You really have to see the situation, not just look at it. Woman getting beaten by a random man on the street who's trying to take her purse? Beat the bastard. Woman getting beaten by a loved one? Don't intervene. Chances are you'll get hurt and she'll probably take her family member's/ boyfriend's side.

Its not black and white. You need to have situational awareness.

[Vaun]

(03-21-2014 08:25 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

how much of your pie are you willing to part with for other peoples bs? 5-10 for an assault charge, or worse? but yes, life is murky yes and not so easily black and white, and situations are always different. he could have been just unlucky.

[Glock]

(03-21-2014 08:25 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

Damn, some guys have no empathy towards other human beings. So if you see a woman being beaten up by a man you just shrug it off and say "it's her problem, I'm no white knight" and walk away?

Empathy means "the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another." If I were present when a woman began to be assaulted by a man she chose to be with, I would feel plenty of empathy and would wish the best for her -- as I got the hell out of there to avoid any trouble for myself or mine.

We can feel empathy without risking our own lives to save others from their bad decisions.

Is there any doubt that this White Knight made the wrong decision? His kids will grow up without a father. If he could go back and relive that night, there is no doubt in my mind that he would reconsider risking his family's well being to save some 'hood rat from her own boyfriend.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

If a stranger came up and attacked a woman that would be one thing, but when it's a domestic situation you're getting in two people's business (no matter how well meaning) and you become the enemy.

You can call the cops, but even if they lock up the guy this type of woman will just find another asshole.

This extends to how women behave with their pets too. A friend of mine's mom got her lip nearly torn off by her pit bull a year or so ago but she insisted on keeping the dog. A month back he bit off a good portion of her face and she was hospitalized. She still wanted to keep him. I didn't even bother learning how this story ended. What does it matter? If they put down her pit bull, she'll just go out and get another.

[Ziltoid]

(03-21-2014 09:46 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

If a stranger came up and attacked a woman that would be one thing, but when it's a domestic situation you're getting in two people's business (no matter how well meaning) and you become the enemy.

You can call the cops, but even if they lock up the guy this type of woman will just find another asshole.

This extends to how women behave with their pets too. A friend of mine's mom got her lip nearly torn off by her pit bull a year or so ago but she insisted on keeping the dog. A month back he bit off a good portion of her face and she was hospitalized. She still wanted to keep him. I didn't even bother learning how this story ended. What does it matter? If they put down her pit bull, she'll just go out and get another.

Exactly... How many men out there honestly even have the capacity to commit domestic violence?
I think you'd have to look fairly hard, the VAST majority of men would never dream of laying a finger on a woman. Why isn't she with one of them? The answer being, obviously, no vagina tingles to be found there for her. Women like this always seem to have strings of multiple 'abusive' partners, total coincidence and bad luck I'm sure.

[Samseau]

You guys are arguing over theory without knowing the story.

Here's the real clincher: It happened on his property.

If I saw two men slamming each other into their car in my driveway... I'd be damn sure to ask what the fuck they are doing. And I'd call the cops ASAP. And if it was extremely violent of course I'd break it up and tell them to either take it somewhere else or just stop altogether.

That said, the guy who was stopping the fight did go a little out of his way to be a white knight because he clearly sided with the girl and even hit the man in order to defend the girl. While this is slightly white knighting, let's remember he wasn't actively going out into society and looking to white knight. He was in his fucking driveway, on his property, the one place in the world where a man expects peace.

On top of that, he was a happily married black man raising his two-year old son in a country where 70% of black children are raised in a single-parent home (i.e. no father). Fucking tragedy all around; I hope they catch these cocksuckers and put them to death.

[Tuthmosis]

(03-21-2014 10:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

slightly white knighting

Phrase of the day.

[Vaun]

(03-21-2014 09:46 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

This extends to how women behave with their pets too. A friend of mine's mom got her lip nearly torn off by her pit bull a year or so ago but she insisted on keeping the dog. A month back he bit off a good portion of her face and she was hospitalized. She still wanted to keep him. I didn't even bother learning how this story ended. What does it matter? If they put down her pit bull, she'll just go out and get another.

seeing this happen a lot more, and somewhere where a bunch of morons signed a petition to not put down a pitbull that decimated a kid. A sign at how truly fucked modern america has become.