[HighStreet]

(03-12-2014 07:34 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

I'd choose Austin.

Miami may sound ideal, but you will be blowing through that money like no one's business. This is from knowing a doc who did that there starting in a similar path. He had a kickass time and got laid a ton but was partying too much and blew through everything, bottles, etc. However, this was supplemented by some side gigs that seemed to payout a lot. Also, my friend got tired of the language barrier and cultural issues of taking care of patients in Miami.

Good point about Miami, I don't speak two words of Spanish. I'm thinking as far as Florida is concerned, Tampa is the best bet, given the high non-hispanic population (60%+?).

Austin sounds really good, but it also pays a bit less than Dallas because more docs want to work there. Supply and demand at work! Does Austin have something Dallas doesn't, for a $100,000 pay cut? I know UT-Austin has tons of hot talent, I'd have an endless stream of 18-23 year old undergrads, haha.

Maybe I should have re-phrased my list in terms of expected annual income (based on the numbers I'm hearing as of 2014):

Dallas- $400,000-450,000
Austin- $300,000
Tampa- $300,000
Vegas- $375,000

So there aren't HUGE differences in income, but I could be earning a lot more in Dallas vs Austin.

[Brosemite]

Depends on how much you prioritize outdoorsy life that Austin offers? But those Dallas numbers look like a no brainer to me albeit I don't know a whole lot about Tampa.

There's typically going to be a lot of women from UT Austin of course, but the sluttiest & prettiest chicks down there are alumnus of Texas State in San Marcos, which will require more social circle game.

Ton of university chicks out there from UT, but the young professional numbers don't look too favorable. A friend of mine's went to a tech convention in ATX & mentioned for every one female professional transplant in Austin, there are 9 other dudes moving into the Hill Country area because of the growing IT field.

[Lothario]

HighStreet If those numbers are true and you are dead set on staying in one city , Dallas it is then . It's a big enough city that you can be playing in FortWorth on the weekend and Dallas during the Workdays plus multiple other locations close by and your social circles not colliding and keeping your rep intact.

[Brosemite]

^^ Lewisville, Denton, Addison, Downtown FW, Stockyards, West 7th Ft. Worth, Southlake/Grapevine, Henderson Street (multiple parts), Knox, Uptown (multiple parts), Oak Lawn, Greenville, Downtown Dallas, Deep Ellum, Plano, Las Colinas, Lakewood.

Yeah you're going to need a car to get around, but you won't get bored with all those nightlife options.

[HighStreet]

Yeah, I have heard high guy:girl ratio in Austin outside of UT. My fear is the most of the hotties are 18-22 (nothing wrong with that) but there is a big shortage of hot girls 22-30, which I think Dallas will have TONS of. I need to make a trip to Dallas.

Also, Austin traffic is horrendous from what I hear.

Looks like its down between Dallas and Tampa...I need to visit both. Yes, those numbers are correct, based on 2014 salaries that I'm hearing about.

Houston pays as much as Dallas if not more, but I grew up in Houston and there is a big lack of hot white women for a city its size, hence my draw to Dallas...

For those who have knowledge of Dallas...which city has has less traffic (if there is such a thing) and more hot white girls? Ft Worth or Dallas proper?

[Cattle Rustler]

Brosemite, bro keep Dallas off the radar. Turning Dallas into PUA-central is the last thing we need, just look at Toronto.

Stay away from Dallas, that's where all the UT grads come to start their careers. Not to mention our cheap apartments and gridlock traffic. Dallas is the place where owning a Lexus means nothing because anyone earning 28k can get one.

We get all the ugly looking Mexicans from Northern Mexico (Chihuahua) and have sorority sluts by the handful.

Go to Austin with all the hipster sluts and expensive cost of living . if you choose Dallas you MUST live in Uptown or drive 30 minutes to party.... That part is not sarcasm.

[Brosemite]

^^^ Both Ft. Worth and Dallas will have shitty traffic.

Btw, I saw many hot white chicks when I was in Houston last Spring for a wedding. Was around Downtown & Midtown.

You're technically going to get more natural hot white chicks in Ft. Worth, but Dallas is probably a better bet for more transplants from all over the US (International ones too).

[TheBulldozer]

OP....you should PM Lothario. It seems like he knows what's up here.

[lavidaloca]

I'd do Miami. Latinas in my experience are very open to wide age gaps in dating. OP could be a legitimate playboy into his 50s there and is a short flight to many latin countries.

Keep in mind OP will start making serious bank at 33, I'd imagine his playboy lifestyle could last a lot longer in Miami.

It also depends on what OP's goals are. Does OP want to get married eventually? Does OP want to leave the rat race? Does he want to save? Does he want to spend everything he makes and live it up?

Congrats to the OP are in order. Becoming a Doctor is no small feat.

For me assuming you are able to get within 100k of your max salary i'd do Miami but I'm very biased to latinas / latin culture.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

@CattleRustler. Where are all the hot Northern Mexican girls at in TX?

[legendcraft]

What about some of these options?

Phoenix/Scottsdale Arizona
Charleston South Caroline
Nashville Tennessee
Atlanta Georgia
Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

[legendcraft]

Also, from the choices you had, your race preference, and your expected salary I would rank your options:

1) Austin or Dallas Texas (depending if you prefer to make more money->Dallas, or if you prefer a city with hot girls, better nightlife, and really good for gaming->Austin) - I would encourage you to visit both cities before you decide. The hot young Austin girls might be to hard to resist
2) Fort Lauterdale - a lot of white girls, good nightlife/gaming, close to miami
3) Tampa Bay - not the best for nightlife/gaming,
4) Las Vegas
5) Miami - mostly latinas, excellent for nightlife/gaming

I would also consider Phoenix Arizona. Or just suck it up the weather and live in NYC which has good weather from March-November.

[Vitriol]

Fort Lauderdale isn't really a "party city." Everything in Broward county is pretty spread out and the only area that is concentrated with bars and nightlife is Las Olas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Olas_Boulevard

[HighStreet]

Thanks for the replies guys and the other suggestions.

I want to live in either TX, FL or NV due to no state income tax. Arizona and Georgia have state income tax and I don't think they offer anything I can't find in TX/FL/NV. I don't want to live anywhere cold so that rules out the midwest/north.

So I've narrowed it down to Dallas or Tampa. I guess I don't care so much about the "nightlife" as I do a plethora of hot white women, traffic that isn't too terrible (or at least a nice city where I can live near work), and a major metro area.

Any last few arguments in defense of Dallas vs Tampa go ahead...

I should also mention I'm not a fan of religion, and while I don't plan on marriage, I could see myself in a long term relationship at some point, and I fear that Dallas has too many Jesus freak/religious girls (I don't care short term but long term...annoying)... but maybe Tampa is just as bad? Thoughts?

[Brosemite]

Best bet would be to visit both cities & see what suits YOU best.

There are some ppl that go to church, etc in Dallas; however, it is anything BUT a religious city. It's not like parts of East Texas near Tyler that banned some Harry Potter movies for promoting witchcraft, lol.

Btw, getting to pick where you want to do your residency & work is no small feat. Mad props to you. I remember when UT Southwestern Medical School in Dallas used to be the "consolation prize" for students who didn't get into a school in California or NYC. Now it is as much of a prized possession as those schools & as desirable as say Baylor Med in Houston.

[Brosemite]

(03-12-2014 09:01 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Brosemite, bro keep Dallas off the radar. Turning Dallas into PUA-central is the last thing we need, just look at Toronto.

Stay away from Dallas, that's where all the UT grads come to start their careers. Not to mention our cheap apartments and gridlock traffic. Dallas is the place where owning a Lexus means nothing because anyone earning 28k can get one.

We get all the ugly looking Mexicans from Northern Mexico (Chihuahua) and have sorority sluts by the handful.

Go to Austin with all the hipster sluts and expensive cost of living . if you choose Dallas you MUST live in Uptown or drive 30 minutes to party.... That part is not sarcasm.

[unhommefou]

(03-13-2014 06:48 PM)HighStreet Wrote:  

Thanks for the replies guys and the other suggestions.

I want to live in either TX, FL or NV due to no state income tax. Arizona and Georgia have state income tax and I don't think they offer anything I can't find in TX/FL/NV. I don't want to live anywhere cold so that rules out the midwest/north.

Why not Las Vegas? Or (Wildcard bitches) Orlando?!

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Any last few arguments in defense of Dallas vs Tampa go ahead...

I think that this has already been repeated in the thread a lot, but why not just buy some tickets, get on Airbnb, and experience each area for your self to figure out what place is right for you?

Start with Vegas, then come to Orlando, drive down to Tampa which is 45 minutes away, head to Ft. Lauderdale/Miami, and back up to Orlando, then fly back to Dallas?

If you are going to Orlando, Church/Wall St. downtown is the more "adult" party/club/bar scene

If you decide to swing by Tampa, the SoHo (South Howard Ave) area is where you will want to end up, though the Ybor party area is EXTREMELY cheap to live in. Also, if you are looking for younger girls, Ybor is the best place to find them in Tampa since a large majority of the bars are 18+.

The problems with Ybor are that the area can be kinda sketchy, hipsters have started their takeover there, and the place is completely dead Sunday-Wednesday.


Finally, according to this wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_incom...income_tax

...Tennessee also does not have an income tax. They do have a tax on dividends though.

[j r]

(03-12-2014 08:37 PM)HighStreet Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 07:34 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

I'd choose Austin.

Miami may sound ideal, but you will be blowing through that money like no one's business. This is from knowing a doc who did that there starting in a similar path. He had a kickass time and got laid a ton but was partying too much and blew through everything, bottles, etc. However, this was supplemented by some side gigs that seemed to payout a lot. Also, my friend got tired of the language barrier and cultural issues of taking care of patients in Miami.

Good point about Miami, I don't speak two words of Spanish. I'm thinking as far as Florida is concerned, Tampa is the best bet, given the high non-hispanic population (60%+?).

Austin sounds really good, but it also pays a bit less than Dallas because more docs want to work there. Supply and demand at work! Does Austin have something Dallas doesn't, for a $100,000 pay cut? I know UT-Austin has tons of hot talent, I'd have an endless stream of 18-23 year old undergrads, haha.

Maybe I should have re-phrased my list in terms of expected annual income (based on the numbers I'm hearing as of 2014):

Dallas- $400,000-450,000
Austin- $300,000
Tampa- $300,000
Vegas- $375,000

So there aren't HUGE differences in income, but I could be earning a lot more in Dallas vs Austin.

Are these actual starting salaries or are they average salaries?

[HighStreet]

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Are these actual starting salaries or are they average salaries?

Starting salaries in the cities I mentioned, I'd be earning that at age 33 until whenever I retire, and maybe even more if I find a private doctor-owned group. The national average is lower, around $275,000, because most docs work on the west or east coast, and the salaries there are much lower for emergency physicians. The south and southeast pays the highest. Emergency medicine pay has spiked in the last 4-5 years and its now becoming a very competitive specialty.

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I think that this has already been repeated in the thread a lot, but why not just buy some tickets, get on Airbnb, and experience each area for your self to figure out what place is right for you?

Start with Vegas, then come to Orlando, drive down to Tampa which is 45 minutes away, head to Ft. Lauderdale/Miami, and back up to Orlando, then fly back to Dallas?

Yeah, I'm gonna visit all the cities soon if I can, you're right.

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Btw, getting to pick where you want to do your residency & work is no small feat. Mad props to you. I remember when UT Southwestern Medical School in Dallas used to be the "consolation prize" for students who didn't get into a school in California or NYC. Now it is as much of a prized possession as those schools & as desirable as say Baylor Med in Houston.

Thanks. Any US medical school or ACGME residency program is considered all on the same level and in my opinion, the best training in the world. I feel very lucky. If I end up in Dallas I will indeed be training at UTSW's teaching hospitals.

[JohnKreese]

As it relates to traffic, I would research the different hospitals in each of the cities where you would be living/working. The way I understand it, you get "placed" at one of these hospitals for rotations. As much as logistics are touted, in the cities that you're looking at, nightlife is so spread out that you'll have to drive at some point.

Ideally, I think your best bet would be to post up close to your work/hospital if it seems like it would be a good spot to day game. With all of the options for cheap transport (uber, Sidecar, etc.) and the bank you'll be making, no reason to ever drive when going out at night.

All this being said, if you look at the cities and all of the hospitals are in shit areas of town where you would never want to live, you may want to reevaluate your choice...or just take my thoughts as being bullshit and move on. However, if they are generally in good places, you could maximize your night AND day game possibilities.

[Brosemite]

^^ Good point John. UT Southwestern and Parkland are a 5 minute drive away from Uptown/Oak Lawn (small roads) and 10 minutes away from Knox Henderson/Greenville in Dallas.

[Vicious]

Look, everyone in this thread is telling you to go to these "finalists" for a week or more to truly experience them. This is an important life decision that should not be made from plain theory on a place.

Get feet on the ground. Start to make things happen.

[poutsara]

(03-11-2014 10:06 PM)HighStreet Wrote:  

Hi guys.

I'm a med student about to apply for residency next year. I'd like to ideally do residency and then work as an attending physician (full time $$ doc) in the same city so I don't have to move.

I'm currently 30 years old, in very good shape. Will be earning about $17-18,000 per month AFTER taxes as an emergency room physician at age 33, and this figure might go up in the future if I join a group where I can become a partner. I figure I'd like to save $10,000 per month, and blow $8,000 a month on whatever I want, rent included of course.

I'm single and have no plans of marriage anytime soon, if ever.

I'll be working ~30-36 hours per week (which is standard) after residency. So I should have a decent amount of free time.

I'm thinking my home base cities are between (as an ER doctor I can pick any city I want):

Las Vegas, NV
Miami, FL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Tampa, FL
Austin, TX/Dallas, TX

I love hot white women, not so much on the latinas, but I know Miami has tons of both.

Which city would you guys choose if you were in my shoes? How would you rank the ones I listed? I've never been to any of them except Austin. Thanks!!

What did you decide?

I say visit each place for a weekend and make a decision. My knee jerk impression is to go to Miami. But if you are looking for the very long term, then agree with Texas.

[Cattle Rustler]

(03-15-2014 04:22 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Look, everyone in this thread is telling you to go to these "finalists" for a week or more to truly experience them. This is an important life decision that should not be made from plain theory on a place.

Get feet on the ground. Start to make things happen.

Vicious, you need to visit our neck of the woods....and get some southern belle hospitality. Between wannabee urban cowboys and Ed Hardy douchebros, you would wreck it here, without a doubt.

[Brosemite]

Ed Hardy douchebros can be found around A) Downtown Dallas, B) Various Clubs (that nobody really goes to), or C) Your neck of the woods CR (Addison)