Thank you to everyone for the info in this wonderful thread (read this shit front to back).. just got back from my trip to BKK (4 days, 3 nights)
Also was cool meeting people from here for the first time.. big shout to vanryan who was a great wing to go out with and taught me a lot of things re: game and life
Will try to provide some helpful tips here to contribute / also brag via FR lol (long post...)
Stats:
Went out 3 nights, pulled every night
- Smashed 2, the other one claimed she was a virgin but I still got head, etc
1)
If you are Korean, move the fuck to Bangkok (as I plan on doing at some point)
- I got the impression that being white was kind of overplayed and that white dudes had a bad rep. But what I would call the "Korean god factor" is very real here. I think I got IOIs from 8/10 Thai girls I saw whether that was in the club, on the street, in restaurants, whatever (granted I'm a pretty good looking guy). Example: I was walking around my hotel area and met the eyes of a Thai girl so I smiled and she smiled back. Spoke 0 English and worked at a massage parlor but had crazy Korean fetish and after grabbing the line in like 30 secs was messaging me saying what time she should come over (times were not good for me though as she wanted to always meet morning or night - times at which I was sleeping or out)
- I had anticipated the Korean craze but not to the extent that it was present. The first time I rode the BTS my jaw dropped as the entire train was a Korean food ad. The same ad was also on the side of a huge mall on one of those LED screens. The day before I left, I walked by a "Korean Education Center" for people to learn about Korea and Korean culture with events like "Korean Culture Supporters Ceremony" being held (will post pics upon request).
- When I told girls I was Korean, their eyes would literally light up (even 8+ girls). When I added some girls on Line, their names were literally in Korean or they would try and message me in Korean.
- I honestly felt like a celebrity here. I won't lie - the Korean thing was probably a big factor for my success here.
2)
Don't bother with online (especially if you are here for a short time)
- I had some very bad experiences with online. Before I arrived, I was pipelining hard (way too much) and had like 20 different convos going at the same time. Maybe it's because it was New Years weekend, but it was hard to schedule dates (lots of girls were away). I will recount a day where I met three online girls (well technically two because I forgot about the third and was already headed to meet vanryan for dinner lol).
- The first girl (Thaifriendly) - never meet an online girl who doesn't have at least one decent face shot and body shot that aren't both at downward myspace angles. This girl looked like a 6 online, like I would bang and then tell to leave but when I saw her in the hotel lobby she was a 4 and I went back up without acknowledging her. She saw me and cursed me off on Line lol.
- The second "girl" (Tinder) - I am still traumatized by this event but it was a ladyboy. While some people may be into this, I am not. She had said she was a girl but as we were making out on my bed I felt a bulge and freaked the fuck out. Originally I had agreed to pay her taxi cab but didn't end up paying, fuck that shit
- While YMMV I wouldn't bother with online. Night game is easy enough without having to deal with ladyboys, ugly girls, or girls who think they are high value when they are 6-7 at best because they are being chased hard by foreigners on dating websites (which means they are probably harder to get a hold of / on a date). Also with night game, not many people approach so it's probably easier.
3)
Learn a little Thai / speak in broken English
- I think this will set you apart from other people who are just desperate sex tourists (even if you are, too lol) that think they are entitled to Thai pussy because girls will think you actually care about Thai people and their culture. I got a lot of bonus points for knowing how to say basic things ("Oohh.. you speak Thai??"). Here is the list of terms from my notes (the ones I used the most):
hi - sawatdee krup
nice to meet you - yin dee tee dai roh jak
good - dee
bad - mai dee
can you speak english - put angkrit dai mai
pretty - na rak
yes - chai
no - mai
Bah! - lets go
Cowli - korea
Mai chai - idk
can - dai
mai dai - can't
Cheers - chon kay-ew
thank you - kahp koon krup (or just krup / ka for girls)
sorry/excuse me - katort
i don't understand - mai roo
how much - tao lie
water - nam
delicious - aroy
toilet - hong nam
Usually my opens would be something like getting eye contact, approaching, letting them check me out for a sec before asking them if they spoke English ("put angkrit dai mai"), them asking me if I spoke Thai to which I would say "mai dai," them teasing me saying I had many Thai girlfriends, etc. Or going up to them and saying "chon kay-ew" (cheers) with a drink.
When you use English, don't use good English/full sentences. Easier said than done but I could do it since I am ethnic / have experience with poor English speakers. If you try to be too witty or use English past a 3rd grade level you will probably only confuse girls and lower the possibility of getting your dick wet (unless she is fluent in English).
Ok now I will try to recollect some of my experiences; however, I don't have good memory so apologize in advance.
1st Night (NYE)
Got in at 3pm and I got to Airbnb (where I stayed the first night - right next to Thong Lo BTS) ~5-6pm. Ended up at Route 66 (btw lots of Koreans here - girls and guys). IMO this club kinda sucks in terms of the actual partying (Thai clubs don't compare to Korean ones - at least the ones I've been to), but it is the best for pickup - generally foreigner friendly, etc. After doing a couple of approaches normally vanryan and I settled into the best type of game possible at the club and would continue to do it for the rest of our nights out - Choke Point game. I believe Roosh touched upon this in Bang but basically just chill in areas where people walk past (like hallways that lead to the bathroom) and wait to snipe girls when they aren't at tables with all of their friends. Combined with dancing like a fukkin sikcunt, I got a lot of IOIs and basically just had to say hello. Got lines from two fucking SEXY girls that I'm still sad I didn't get to bang (being hotter they took longer to respond to shit and we never got to schedule anything before I left). This game is ideal given the Thai table set up in clubs (everyone is at a table with a bottle). Another thing I think I would have tried given another night is approaching tables that only have a couple to a few girls (last night at Route 66 I was with a 6 but saw a lonely 8 at the table next to us whose friend was obviously taken care of that night but played it safe with the guaranteed lay..)
Anyway, I eventually get a strong IOI from some chick in the main room and go in. It's pretty much on from the start. I just had to wait there and dance until she was ready to leave. Thank you vanryan for winging the friend.
Misc note: Thai girls drink like fish. They straight up drink straight whiskey or make this drink that is like half a glass of whiskey, a little soda, and a SPLASH of coke. This really surprised me as the girls weren't even that drunk after drinking multiple glasses of this
Getting a taxi was a bitch (being NYE and all) so it took like an hour to get a cab (I think it was ~1-1:30 when we got a cab to give you an idea of how early BKK nightlife is) - I actually had to get an Uber and walk with her for a while out of the main RCA area as the driver wouldn't come to that area since it was so packed.
Anyway, we get to the Airbnb and there is no resistance. Shower together, fuck like rabbits, get food after. I couldn't cum which sucked but I hit it again in the morning and came inside her (probably a terrible idea - I think I blocked her on line), but she folded my clothes, made the bed, paid for breakfast, my water, and the Plan B lol. Apparently she is also a singer on some TV show (small role)
Day 2
I lied to the girl from NYE and said I was meeting vanryan. I went to get a sketchy massage. I believe this was recommended somewhere on Afarang's blog but I wanted to try a Nurum (spelling?) body-to-body gel massage as well as prostate massage (no homo but apparently you can cum from it). There was a place that had those two things in one session so I went. Needless to say, it was a fucking waste of 2200 baht (~$60 USD) and if it weren't for that dumb use of money (just a girl rubbing some gel on you, not even massage, and then half-heartedly rubbing her body on you for a little bit, etc), I wouldn't even have spent half my budget for the weekend probably ($300 USD).
After the massage, I took a 30 minute motorcycle taxi to Wat Arun (bad idea - thought I was gonna die). Unfortunately the steps to the top were closed (was trying to get a sick pic of the sunset) so I got ready to go on a date from Thaifriendly. The girl from NYE had told me there was a nice market thing called Asiatique close to Wat Arun. So I invited some online girl from Thaifriendly to meet me there. However, the girl from online misunderstood and went to some restaurant I think called Asiatique. So I was just chilling at this place alone but it was really nice and probably a great spot to bring a date to (nice waterfront area with markets and restaurants). Also lots of Koreans here for those interested in picking up Koreans on holiday. Though none of the Koreans I saw in BKK were as hot as the ones in Korea (guys or girls, mentioning guys because they won't be hard competition for a Korean guy that's got it together and is good looking/tall as well as approaches vs. sits around drinking too much and chain smoking Marlboro Lites/Parliaments)
2nd Night
Met up with vanryan again. We tried Levels first but got a bad vibe. Can definitely see it being a hooker joint. No cover (sketch) and immediately being asked to buy drinks by a waiter (who asked again after not even like 5-10 minutes). Clientele mainly tourists. Bounced quickly.
Went to Onyx (next to Route 66). This is actually a dope club. Typical superclub experience (think Hakkasan in Vegas, Octagon in Korea, etc). Blasting music, sick lighting, cool interior. Also, quality of girls is much higher than Route 66 IMO (think typical hot club sloots running around). At the same time, it's very Thai and there are a lot less foreigners than Route. However, the dance floor, like all Thai places, is just tables lol. I ran my typical dancing around in a choke point game and approached a girl who gave me a big smile. I think I got her friend's line or her line too, can't remember. But we were talking and all of a sudden I get a drink thrown at me. I'm like wtf... but keep talking to her. 5 secs later another drink is thrown at me. I see two Thai fuckers giving me the evil eye and the girl tells me one is her boyfriend. I'm not trying to get murked in the third world or anything so I eject.
After the incident I get very paranoid as I remember reading about some guy here that got jumped outside Onyx by Thai dudes so I chill out for a bit and recollect myself and try to be more lowkey. Approached a few times, one good one - cute girl who's into Koreans (unfortunately couldn't meet after that day cuz she got sick). Eventually I find myself approaching this unique looking chick that walks by (I got out my phone to look for the way to say cheers to her and she was getting real close from the start so knew it was on, or so I thought). Vanryan thought she was a ladyboy - the verdict is still out... (more below)
She speaks 0 English and is very aggressive - think alpha female - leading me around where we sit down near the entrance and start communicating via Google Translate. This girl is half-Norwegian, half-Thai - pretty smexy. Apparently she was Miss Thai Universe #4 or some shit and finds it necessary to keep emphasizing to me that she is a supermodel (testing me?) She tries getting me into VIP but it doesn't work. So on Google she says, I will hang out with my friends for a little then call you so we can go back to your hotel. I was not opposed to this so I just chilled for a bit. Eventually she comes to get me and again is just leading me around and is clearly very high status in the club with everyone saying bye to her etc.
We leave and get a taxi, she tests me more trying to hold her bags (she apparently went shopping before the club). We get to my hotel area and she wants to drink. I buy 5 beers from a street food stand for 500 baht. Of course, I am an idiot and do not realize there is liquor in the hotel fridge. We are back in the room and she is just teasing the fuck out of me. Eventually we finish all the beers and start making out. She takes off her shirt and the whole time is leading me which is annoying but whatever I'm trying to smash. Sucking on her fake teddies and she's sucking me off/dry humping but won't let me smash/access her pussy for fingering or anything (probably a ladyboy fuck me - though I didn't feel a bulge when she was dry humping me - though she might have cut her dick off fuck me). She sleeps over and I get her a cab in the morning. She keeps saying I am the first man she slept with (19 year old virgin or so she says) and that she likes me etc (I was kind of playing the Romeo game at this point. Asking her if she had any trauma - she said yea - and saying that I wanted to be her first and that she could trust me. All this smooth Google Translate shit). I am currently trying to get nudes (not good at this) despite intense language barrier to determine if I should continue pursuing or not pursue for risk of ladyboy dick in my ass
Actually the girl sounds like this one mentioned in a post above (especially looking Latin/"doing all the gaming"/bipolar)
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The first night I arrive I meet a hot mixed thai/euro at the 7 eleven. She's an 8, looks more latin than eurasian. I opened her but after that she did all the gaming. I later find out that she's Bi-polar and also on her period - anyone seen this combination before? Potent ! Ended up banging her all week. Bit disappointed that my night gaming plans had to be shelved but I couldnt pass on her even though shes totally nuts.
3rd Day
Shitty day of online game. Stay away
3rd Night
I wanted to go to Lebua Skybar (the one from Hangover 2) to get an epic pic and drink to start off last night in Bangkok but too many people (all tourists basically) and it was already getting late in the evening ~11. Me and vanryan head to Nunglen, excited to see what many claim to be the "hottest girls in Thailand" to find out the place is closed down lmao. So we head to Route 66. It's pretty dead unfortunately but we manage to finally meet some other RVF guys which was cool. Don't know peoples' forum names so not gonna mention their real names since I don't know if they're cool with that.
So as much as I enjoyed talking to the guys, it was my last night out and I wanted to get one last lay. Vanryan opens a set and I wing him. We get invited to the girls' tables and it's matter of not blowing ourselves out. Again, the Thai girls (at least mine) are drinking copious amounts of whiskey. There is a 3rd girl who looks lonely so I get one of the RVF guys to wing but he disappears (think he was too drunk or something - the girl just wanted to dance/grind with him). Maybe it's better he didn't end up going with her though cuz my girl later told me she was 17 and even joked about inviting her over for a 3some (maybe I should have capitalized but not trying to get executed in Thailand for messing with minors). So after the whiskey bottle is finished, we all grab cabs and I get to the hotel with my girl. We start off in the shower and I try to bang in the shower like the last girl but she brings me to my senses (for the moment) and makes me grab a condom and we go to the bed. Needless to say, the sex was not good as I had too much whiskey earlier so I just got her off with fingering and hit it in the morning. There was blood on my sheets but she said it wasn't her so idk what happened (she was mad tight tho)
Day 4
I get the girl a cab and say bye before meeting vanryan for a final meal and head to the airport feeling absolutely spent. BKK really lives up to its reputation
Conclusion/Random Thoughts
All in all, you'd have to be borderline retarded not to pull in BKK IMO, or very new to game. Just approach, be cool/nice, and stay in set until your girl is ready to leave (they don't want to just abandon their bottles as I'm sure that's a significant portion of their income or probably all of it minus the percent that goes to makeup/cosmetics - this can easily bump up a girl 2 or 3 points as it did mine from NYE)
I also feel bad for Thai guys. I imagine this is what Korea must have been like back in the day (I think I saw user "booshala" post that Korea used to be a pussy paradise back in the day like early 2000s and earlier) when guys weren't as stylish, jacked, had game, etc. I saw ONE Thai dude the entire trip that I thought was alpha. The rest are either short, don't have style, don't approach, and just generally look third world. Meanwhile, the girls are putting lots of effort into their appearance and a LOT look good/bangable (the quality definitely exceeded my expectations). Take advantage of this pussy paradise while it lasts
Thanks again for all the info and sorry for long post - I hope someone gets something out of it. Was nice remembering all these things as I'm currently back in Korea sitting in my not very well insulated small ass apt in cold weather ><
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