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12-28-2013, 05:08 PM
Paul Graham's next tweet should be, "Nitasha, stfu...BITCH!"
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12-28-2013, 05:15 PM
Quote: (12-28-2013 03:06 PM)Maciano Wrote:
I just don't get why Graham felt a need to explain himself. Isn't he a bit too big to be annoyed by trolls like this?
No one is too big. The ideological imperatives of feminism take precedence over such trivia as someone's accomplishments. It's like a bloodless version of a communist society where the scribblings of a
professional denouncer like Nitasha can make powerful men tremble.
Of course the guy (Graham) is in reality completely party-line:
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If someone was going to be really good at programming they would have found it on their own. Then if you go look at the bios of successful founders this is invariably the case, they were all hacking on computers at age 13. What that means is the problem is 10 years upstream of us. If we really wanted to fix this problem, what we would have to do is not encourage women to start startups now.
It's already too late. What we should be doing is somehow changing the middle school computer science curriculum or something like that. God knows what you would do to get 13 year old girls interested in computers. I would have to stop and think about that.
Paul, there is no "problem" and there is nothing for you to "think about". What you'd have to do to get 13 year old girls interested in computers is give them a Y chromosome, but why bother? There are enough dudes to do the job.
So, in fact, this guy is a faithful but somewhat naive party member who is earnestly trying to figure out ways to solve the spurious and unsolvable "problem" of getting sluts to become hackers. But any perceived deviation from the party line, no matter how small, is forbidden. That's how it is and how it must be under the ascendant reign of a totalizing ideology.
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12-28-2013, 05:19 PM
Women are better suited performing mindless menial work like data entry and customer service. They don't have the spacial awareness or depth of reasoning it takes to be a hacker. They might be able to envision a concept like Facebook but they're clueless when it comes to implementing it.
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12-28-2013, 05:42 PM
Peregrine, you may well be right -- he could be a secret heretic for all I know. The point remains that his public heresy is a quite modest one -- it's not really a break with the party line, maybe a small wiggle in that line. No matter, it must still be squashed at once.
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12-28-2013, 07:37 PM
Well, I have a feeling I would find his "ten shocking things" shockingly mild, if anything.
But in any case, I have no problem with the dude and my point was certainly not to criticize him. I have no doubt he is a smart guy and closer to us than most. I was just noting how mildly he departs from the party line in his public comments, because it's instructive to see how little you need to do or say to earn the ire of Nitasha and crew. Not the least deviation can be tolerated. That's what I'm really emphasizing.
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12-29-2013, 06:03 AM
$5 says Nitasha can't code for shit
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12-29-2013, 07:17 AM
every time i read these type of ''the it sector is racist/sexist" type articles, the comments are full of the following kind of post:
"this is why quit programming, because people were mean to me"
the reason they quit is because they are mentally weak, if thats all it takes for you to quit, you're not about that life.
im a software developer, and even though i havent received any negative behaviour based on my ethnicity, it wouldnt stop me..there's lots of money to be made, & im not fussed about other peoples opinions that much .. they don't control my future.
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12-29-2013, 01:47 PM
Andy, I wasn't familiar with Graham's writing until now. I have now read the essay you and Peregrine linked to and a couple of other things. He is clearly a very intelligent guy, and I have no doubt he is very good at what he does. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he strikes me as a great or original thinker, but that is a pretty high standard. I suspect that his "private" thinking is far less free and more conventional than what he believes. However, I don't doubt that he also holds some opinions that many people here including myself would agree with. And we can certainly use allies wherever we find them.
In any case, my post earlier in the thread was made only in reference to his remarks in the interview that was quoted in the Gawker post. I was simply making the point that those remarks represented, at most, a mild deviation from the party line -- and I was making this point to emphasize just how little any public deviation is tolerated.
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