[Menace]

What accounts for the famous difficulty of Argentinian women? I mean Russia has plenty of beautiful women, but they don't appear to be as difficult (not saying it's easy, but it's also not Herculean). I know this has been discussed before...but not sure it's been concisely articulated.

[Travesty]

Social circles are very tight and very important to the girls. This is what I have read. I am guessing it could sort of be like trying to lay a sorority chick that only dates fraternity guys. Really tough if you aren't in the scene.

[Merenguero]

(01-22-2014 12:48 PM)Menace Wrote:  

What accounts for the famous difficulty of Argentinian women? I mean Russia has plenty of beautiful women, but they don't appear to be as difficult (not saying it's easy, but it's also not Herculean). I know this has been discussed before...but not sure it's been concisely articulated.

The best I can come up with is Catholic/Italian/Spanish influence coupled with constantly being hit on by tons of guys. I had some Argentine girl approach me the other night, ask me to walk her back to her hotel (which was next to my hotel), destroy property on the way to the hotel, ask me to help her destroy property, then refuse to go up to my room with me.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-22-2014 01:09 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 12:48 PM)Menace Wrote:  

What accounts for the famous difficulty of Argentinian women? I mean Russia has plenty of beautiful women, but they don't appear to be as difficult (not saying it's easy, but it's also not Herculean). I know this has been discussed before...but not sure it's been concisely articulated.

The best I can come up with is Catholic/Italian/Spanish influence coupled with constantly being hit on by tons of guys. I had some Argentine girl approach me the other night, ask me to walk her back to her hotel (which was next to my hotel), destroy property on the way to the hotel, ask me to help her destroy property, then refuse to go up to my room with me.

That and they also look at attraction as some kind of game. Like they'll give you their number but won't meet up when you call or text. They'll dance with you, drink, and smile as if they really enjoy being around you and want to move forward. But it's all just a show. They seem to get off just from you being interested in them but the act of sex was never really on the cards.

[the_ox]

if I don't move from Brazil, I'll visit Argentina in April.

Let's game las hermanas

[Mumbojumbo]

Very good description of what is going on. Argentine girls make it a sport to 'pump' (getting attraction from you) and 'dump' (refusing any kind of follow up). It's dangerous for your ego. There's a couple of European countries like that as well but Argentina is the worst. Enjoy the looks but realize you won't get any action. Not a place I want to go back to...

Btw there is a buenos aires datasheet thread that is somewhat active where I posted my experiences incl. daygame and night game spots I found.

[elhúngaro]

Mekorig, can you share a detailed post about Cordoba/Mendoza? I'm interested in visiting those places, and would like to have a local's insight. Also, do you know about local mountain guide services that arrange Aconcagua climbs?

[Mekorig]

Sorry, but i could not help. I have never been at Mendonza (city), and it was a good 15 years since i visited Cordoba city. I am in Buenos Aires. But i could ask some friends who visit Cordoba from time to time.

[samsamsam]

Mekorig - Looks like Argentina Peso ate it big.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-32400.html

Any thoughts?

[Mekorig]

The inflation rate is growing everyday, and the goverment plays the tipical "i dont see anything wrong" tantrum, and with more pesos in the street, the dollar, both the official and the black market soar. I do not expect a crash like the one in 2001, or a debt default, but this year will suck a lot.

[Mekorig]

I created this thread to share some info about Buenos Aires, but it was my fault that the thread died. I will try to fix it giving some basic info about the city. If you have any other doubt, just ask.


Transportation:

From the Airport:
If you are getting to Argentina from outside South America, is probable that you will be using the Ministro Pistarini Airport, also known as Ezeiza, for the nearby town. The ideal is to have someone to pick you up, as the airport is far from the city, but if not, the best option is to buy a spot in one of the buses that go from the Airport to the city. Taxis from the airport are expensive, and you take the risk that the taxi-driver can take the longest (and expensive) route to your place, or give fake money when they gave you the change.

In the city:
Buenos Aires is blessed by a huge public transportation net. Buses, subways and trains are all over the place, especially buses. You also have taxis (expensive each day) and remises (much like a taxi, but they work with an agency, not always legal). If you are in the city for a short stay, taxis are your better option; they are all around the disco/pub neighborhoods, or over the main avenues. If you plan to stay longer in the city, buses and subway are the best choice, and you can get a magnetic card, a SUBE card, in which you can charge it with money and pay for the trips around the city.
The city government has a site, http://mapa.buenosaires.gov.ar/, where you can see the city map, and plan routes and look for addresses, and also look for buses/subways, etc. Also have a lot of interesting points around the city.


Getting pesos:

Officially, the only way to exchange your dollars/euros is in a bank, where you get the official rate, something like 8.5 pesos per 1 dollar. The thing, there is the “Blue dollar” (illegal exchange) that you can get as 14 pesos per 1 dollar. When you walk around Florida Street in downtown you will see a lot of people saying “change change”. These are “arbolitos”, illegal money changers, they told you the exchange rate, and if you want to deal, they took you to a nearby office, a “cueva“ (cave) to seal the deal. As always when you deal with illegal money change, you play with the possibility of getting fake money. The best option is to get a local (someone you know, or someone from the hotel/hostel/etc were you are staying to exchange with you, usually at the black market rate.

Geeting a place to sleep:Transportation:

Most hostels are localted either in downtown, or around the most touristic zones of the city (Palermo, Recoleta, San Telmo, etc). There are a lot of them, and I can not recommend one sadly, as I never used them.
Also you can make a short term rental, either using Airbnb, or a lot of similar webpages. A fellow forum member I know got a nice place in the middle of Palermo, for something like 400 dollars/month (IIRC) in Craiglist.
Most hotels are in downtown Buenos Aires, a part of the city that is much active during the night. You can also get “boutique” hotels is more posh zones of the city, like Recoleta, Barrio Norte or Palermo.

[Mekorig]

Another useful tip: Phones and chips.

Last day i was waling around Florida street, and saw a Personal (one of the main cellphone companies, the others are Claro and Movistar) shop. I get in and asked one of the people there hwo hard is to get a chip and a line if you are a forign. They told me that you can buy a pre-paid line (the chip) for 50 pesos, and you can recharge it by buying charge cards in almost any kiosko. And apparently you do not need to show any documentation.

[frank_guest]

@Mekorig: do you know anything about the tango scene in Buenos Aires? Is tango still a living dance, like salsa is in much of the Spanish-speaking world (normal people of all age groups), or is it make-believe, like ballroom dancing here in the United States (mostly closet homosexuals dancing with unattractive or sexually-inhibited women plus some closet lesbians). What I know is that tango is definitely alive in San Francisco, Paris and Madrid, among cities I've visited, though it's mostly middle-aged women, which is not a problem for me, since I'm 55 and good-looking 35 is fine with me. Problem I have is that I'm just a beginner and there's no tango scene where I live, and I know it takes a while to get really good at it. I thought of spending a month or so learning in Buenos Aires so that I'd be prepared when I visit Paris and Madrid again. I get conflicting reports from internet research. A lot of the people who say tango is booming in BA are trying to sell something, so I don't trust them.

[The_CEO]

(11-07-2014 07:44 PM)frank_guest Wrote:  

@Mekorig: do you know anything about the tango scene in Buenos Aires? Is tango still a living dance, like salsa is in much of the Spanish-speaking world (normal people of all age groups), or is it make-believe, like ballroom dancing here in the United States (mostly closet homosexuals dancing with unattractive or sexually-inhibited women plus some closet lesbians). What I know is that tango is definitely alive in San Francisco, Paris and Madrid, among cities I've visited, though it's mostly middle-aged women, which is not a problem for me, since I'm 55 and good-looking 35 is fine with me. Problem I have is that I'm just a beginner and there's no tango scene where I live, and I know it takes a while to get really good at it. I thought of spending a month or so learning in Buenos Aires so that I'd be prepared when I visit Paris and Madrid again. I get conflicting reports from internet research. A lot of the people who say tango is booming in BA are trying to sell something, so I don't trust them.

BA is still the Tango epicenter.
Start searching "Buenos Aires Milongas" to get an idea.

http://www.gringoinbuenosaires.com/bueno...nga-guide/

[Mekorig]

frank, Tango is alive and well in Buenos Aires. As The_CEO said, the city is the epicenter of the dance style. The guide he posted is good. Here you will find a lot of places to dance (or learn to dance), from the more "touristic" to the more local. About the ages, yes, it is a middle to late-aged thing, but i have seen a good number of twenty-something pretty girls dancing around.

There is aplce in San Telmo that i have visited a couple of times, and like it, that is called El Afronte. Here is the link: http://www.elafronte.com.ar/

[Mekorig]

Arise from the grave!!! Some necroposting of my on thread.


After meeting Snowman here in Bs As, and seeing his sucess with Tinder, i decided to give the app a try. Lets say that the talent around my house was at best, average, with the ociasional 8 or 9 showing up. Got a nice lay from it after a little work (a 30 years old 6.5).

But then one day, while getting lunch at work, i decided to try it in downtown....the horror!!! Sifs, landwhales and trannys!!! Need some eyebleach after that. Intrigued by this lack of talent in the app i asked a female friend of mine who have some very hot females friends, and she told me that most of her friends do not use Tinder, because as she said, "they do not want to look like desperates".

So, my recomendation, if you use Tinder in Bs As, try to use it around hip zones like Palermo, but do not have high hopes about it.

[Carolinian]

Mekorig, thanks for the thread.

I'm headed to Buenos Aires either in December or early next year. I've spent time in Colombia and have gotten my spanish to a decent level. In my experience girls love it when you know some local slang and mannerisms.

I love Argentinian spanish, I'm currently watching los simuladores and it's a great show. What are some other good shows or movies from Argentina?

[Mekorig]

(10-21-2015 04:47 PM)Carolinian Wrote:  

Mekorig, thanks for the thread.

I'm headed to Buenos Aires either in December or early next year. I've spent time in Colombia and have gotten my spanish to a decent level. In my experience girls love it when you know some local slang and mannerisms.

I love Argentinian spanish, I'm currently watching los simuladores and it's a great show. What are some other good shows or movies from Argentina?

A good movie is "El secreto de sus ojos" (The secret in their eyes). Metegol (underdogs) is a nice animated comedy about soccer. A very old movie, La Nona (Grandma) is a very good example of criollo grotesc, a tragicomic film with a very dark humor. Also an oldie but goldie is "9 reinas" (9 queens), a very porteño movie about swindlers.

About TV series, i dont usually see much TV, but "Tumberos" is a good serie about criminals. Sol Negro (Black Sun) was also a good serie.

[zumbi]

Man, you gotta see okupas

Thats it, end of argentinian tv.

Its on youtube, just one season

[mammal]

(12-11-2013 06:48 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  

most of the bad blood is with the government and revolves around the Malvinas/Falklands issue.

As the excellent Argentine writer put it, "like two bald men fighting over a comb." (In other words, a coupleof islands with maybe 2,000 people and a couplemore thousand sheep. Useless* to either country, but a matter of national pride for both. And a way for an Argentine president many years ago to distract the Argentines from economic problems and get them riled up for the war ... and have 300+ killed over some rocky cold dreary islads.)
Note: *Petroleum offshore may change the value of these islands.

[mammal]

Just a couple comments.

From the airport you can get a remise from Manuel Tienda Leon (and a couple others that actually have a desk at the airport, stay away from people approaching you) that will take you to your hotel in Bs As for a fixed price (around 50 dollars.) They take dollars but at the official rate. Might be worth it to pay more than the bus when you're new in town.

Calling a remis (I am told) is safer than hailing a taxi on the street. (Though I have seen attractive young women hail taxis.) There is the risk of not just overcharging, but taxi stopping and other people getting in and robbing you (taxi driver is in on it.) Big danger of hailing a cab after you leave the ATM or bank (they know you have money on you.) Also "express kidnapping." Apparently because of chivalry, women are at less risk than men.

Black market: Can often be avoided since many small shops, restaurants will happily accept dollars in payment at the unofficial rate. Hotels (your biggest expense) are difficult unless you are dealing with a very smallhotel(you speak directly with the owner) not a chain hotel.

Other black market risks include robbery, being short changed, not counterfeit money but "old pesos" (a bill may say 100 pesos and be genuine, but was replacedmany years ago at the rate of 100 pesos = 1 new peso.) And being illegal, you risk arrest if caught.

[godzilla]

(11-07-2015 02:48 PM)mammal Wrote:  

Just a couple comments.

From the airport you can get a remise from Manuel Tienda Leon (and a couple others that actually have a desk at the airport, stay away from people approaching you) that will take you to your hotel in Bs As for a fixed price (around 50 dollars.) They take dollars but at the official rate. Might be worth it to pay more than the bus when you're new in town.

Calling a remis (I am told) is safer than hailing a taxi on the street. (Though I have seen attractive young women hail taxis.) There is the risk of not just overcharging, but taxi stopping and other people getting in and robbing you (taxi driver is in on it.) Big danger of hailing a cab after you leave the ATM or bank (they know you have money on you.) Also "express kidnapping." Apparently because of chivalry, women are at less risk than men.

Black market: Can often be avoided since many small shops, restaurants will happily accept dollars in payment at the unofficial rate. Hotels (your biggest expense) are difficult unless you are dealing with a very smallhotel(you speak directly with the owner) not a chain hotel.

Other black market risks include robbery, being short changed, not counterfeit money but "old pesos" (a bill may say 100 pesos and be genuine, but was replacedmany years ago at the rate of 100 pesos = 1 new peso.) And being illegal, you risk arrest if caught.

I have to disagree with a lot of this.

Please dont tell me you paid 50 US to get on Manuel Tienda De Leon. I've taken a private car for less.

And I am sorry I have to disagree with you. You should definitely be exchanging your money on the black market. The chances of getting majorly ripped off are still very low. Exchange small amounts.

Taxis on the street are entirely safe. They are metered and you should get out if the meter isn't on. The biggest risk is trying to rip you off. Usually they give you back incorrect change or lie and say they dont have change. On a Friday and Saturday even bus late at night are completely fine.

[Going strong]

"And being illegal, you risk arrest if caught"

dude, no Westerner has ever been arrested changing on Florida street...

As to "express kidnapping", it does not target foreigners, only local portenos, and it's very unusual even for them...

Only thing (99%) right in your post is: "many small shops, restaurants will happily accept dollars in payment at the unofficial rate. Hotels (your biggest expense) are difficult unless you are dealing with a very small hotel (you speak directly with the owner) not a chain hotel"

99%, because actually the restaurants, shops, will take your dollar not at the blue rate, but a bit lower (like 13 instead of 15 pesos per USD)

[godzilla]

@Mekong . Try using Happn. Im not getting a lot of matches but quality is really high and seems a lot of girls are on it.

Tinder has gone a little down hill here, quality is def down, but its worked better so far. My experience with argentine women tells me they use online dating to troll or something

[godzilla]

Also any opinións on the elections? Everyone talks to me about it.

Correct me if Im wrong. Its interesting here how the city votes conservative. Seems like a lot pf city people own the farmland though. Also the left here is more nationalist. Not what we usually see in other countries.