Quote: (12-02-2013 12:26 PM)soup Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:19 PM)frenchie Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:07 PM)soup Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:05 PM)frenchie Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:01 PM)soup Wrote:
One thing that I'm a little confused about is the idea that sexuality is cultural- that it can be learned.
Isn't this giving-in to the argument that our standards of beauty are culturally learned as well?
Roosh, don't we have to pick a side on this issue? Either we are hardwired to find something sexually attractive or we are not.
I like the combination of real pussy, tits, ass, and feminine energy. Are you saying that I learned to like this?
I don't think so. I see sexuality on a spectrum and certain women definitely hit up the "traits" that we're all looking for. The "What is a 10" threads are definitely consistent with what we find attractive.
I find it abhorrent that we have a culture that glorifies this. Congrats your (insert title of some SWPL group here), I don't care. Get a job and further the success of our country.
By this logic, the feminists are right, and our love for skinny women with nice bodies is learned and not instinctual.
Of course there are different levels of quality.. but that's not what I'm talking about.
Regardless if it is learned or not, it is pointless to even waste ones time thinking about this as it does nothing to further our society. Heck it detracts from it.
No- we need to be consistent in what we say otherwise we will not be taken seriously.
I don't see what is inconsistent in my message. The whole constant, "sexuality this or that" is a waste of time in the same vein as wasting airtime for gay marriage. The government should not be in the market to define what a marriage is. Call it a union or what not.
Last I checked, this goal of this forum was the betterment of ourselves and as a secondary consequence our society. Self reliance is what builds a culture and a country.
The "gay this, lesbian that" as well as defining masculinity and feminism detracts from the real issues, like say our crazy national debt, an over bloated police state, and a stagnating economy.
If we were to focus our message on self reliance, it would naturally correct the problems we have right now. Women (for the most part) are piss poor at self reliance whereas men tend to be a little better. If a woman wants to be "strong and independent" than let her, but a country that focuses on hard work, industrial strength, and a community rooted in ones ability to work then she'll be subjugated to the hardships that men are and either pick up the pace or drop out. She earned her respect at that point.
There's a strong contingent on this forum to try and restore the classic 1950s social morés. I like the 50s just like anyone else, but we need to be realistic in our stated goals which unfortunately means accepting that we need to be more inclusive when it comes to groups.
TL;DR, we need to focus our message on self reliance, teaching men to not back done to conflict, and working to eliminate narcissism.
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:39 PM)Checkmat Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2013 12:00 PM)frenchie Wrote:
I have no problem with homosexuality.
I have a problem when otherwise genetically normal boys are getting pushed around to become and act gay. My own family tried to shove this down my throat and I resent it whole heartily. If I had come out gay, there would have been a huge party and everyone would be "so proud" of my decision.
I always have people asking me if I am gay. I personally can't stand it and frankly I find it insulting. I wish I lived in a time where that rampant narcissism was shamed and people would call me eccentric instead of "gay".
I don't understand. Do you live somewhere with a huge gay population? Do you dress/act effeminate?
This just sounds really weird to me. I live in the Northeast US so it's not like I'm removed from the most "progressive" subcultures either.
I don't see myself as effeminate. I don't have a lisp or a any of the
mannerisms. I live in Boston and work in a soft industry where I am surrounded by gay dudes and women. I would personally love to meet some more esteemed members of the board for their own opinion because I definitely see it as a game issue.
For some reason, guys in Boston when they go out dress like sh!t whereas I am rocking a blazer and pocket square. It seems here that, "well dressed = gay". For the girls, I have tricks I use to spin the question back to them.