[Vitriol]

I honestly believe that felling a girl's ass and titties is the best anti-anxiety / anti-stress medication a man can receive. I'm not joking either, it literally makes the tension go away in them same way that people get massages for therapeutic purposes. It can't be a coincidence.

I'm pretty sure there are some studies floating around that confirm this if anyone has a link.

[Shotgun Styles]

Most really fun things are a waste of time.

Hang gliding for instance.

[Giovonny]

(12-06-2013 12:49 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  

I honestly believe that felling a girl's ass and titties is the best anti-anxiety / anti-stress medication a man can receive. I'm not joking either

I'm pretty sure there are some studies floating around that confirm this if anyone has a link.

Yes.

HERE is one study that agrees with you

[lush1]

A little bit off topic but I prefer kissing, caressing, dominance and eye contact more than actual penetration.

[Veloce]

(12-06-2013 02:32 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

A little bit off topic but I prefer kissing, caressing, dominance and eye contact more than actual penetration.

you might want to start lifting

[Virtus]

If any of y'all absolutely didn't have to get it in order not to kill people at random would you still hang out with your girls?

[Veloce]

(12-06-2013 10:17 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

If any of y'all absolutely didn't have to get it in order not to kill people at random would you still hang out with your girls?

Fuck no. I hang out with girls for the bare minimum it takes for them to give it up. I hang out with girls to get sex, backrubs, food, and that's really it. I take my gf on the occasional date to keep her happy, other girls I hang out with enough to keep the supply of sex. There's some maintenance involved but if I was a celebrity, had $15+ mil, or was some sort of royalty, you wouldn't see me lift a finger for any girl, ever.

I don't care how cool or smart a girl is, she's still boring and chances are I'd rather read by myself or hang with the guys.

[reaper23]

(12-05-2013 11:10 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

@jackr - believe, me I know the feeling and have many war stories to relate but I won't.

after a while though the threshold for hitting that level of memorable becomes higher and higher and higher to the point now where the only thing i can think of that will create a new high is having an entire gang of submissive women worshipping me, fanning me with palm leaves and feeding me little pickles while i wear a roman toga.

its like chasing the dragon, for me at least

in the spirit of this post i coordinated a threesome with two of my girls last saturday. we did everything my perverted mind could come up with...nary a box to be checked was missed. we spent about 7 hours in a hotel suite going at it. I was king and they were there to serve me.

for a couple of hours at the end there, I was definitely laying back with a big ole grin on my face. happy. sated. full.

had other dates lined up the next day, cancelled them and slept instead. was completely spent.

now its wed again and i'm already talking to them both about how do escalate it yet again. they're talking rape scenes, abductions, adding a fourth...etc...etc..

the chase is on to make that happen now so the energy builds and builds until it explodes and back to ground zero. but now, the bar has to be even higher.

i even told them about the roman toga thing and they said ok as long as it was dates and not little pickles (Which was a reference from Real Genius if anyone saw that).

i'll admit, the monday and tuesday blues set in, in that it all felt empty and like i had drained myself of good feelings (which I had, dopamine emptied out).

starting to feel like an addict, chasing that next high, searching, plotting, executing, moment of good --- then crash and start all over.

i told a girl that for me, being a great fuck - hell - the greatest fuck ever was something i was really proud of about myself..something i like a lot about me. and i wonder. by tying so much (not all mind) of my self satisfaction to something that behaves like a drug might not be such a good idea.

sigh, the player ennui in me continues.

[The Lizard of Oz]

reaper23,

I read your posts in this thread with great interest.

You find yourself in a position that most men reading this can only dream about. You've had and continue to have great sexual success, having your way with submissive and attractive females, making them fulfill your every fantasy, including threesomes and whatever other scenarios you can think up.

Yet the prevailing note in all of these posts is one of disenchantment and ennui. Rather than feeling grateful for and contented with the superb erotic boons you've enjoyed, you are never far from aggrievedly posing the age-old and classic question, "Is this all there is"?

It is a good and honest question. But it reflects a fundamental confusion that should be addressed.

The life of sexuality and eros that you have enjoyed to such an unusual extent is the life of the body. It is, indeed, one of the greatest bodily felicities that human beings are capable of -- but it is part of the life of the body, nevertheless.

Except in one's extreme youth, the life of the body cannot and should not be the primary life of a man who has a brain in his head. Instead, the life of the mind and of the heart -- thought and feeling -- should be primary. The life of the body should be seen as the icing on the cake -- a delicious icing if one is lucky. But nothing more.

This is not for any moral reasons but simply because for an intelligent man such as yourself the life of the body is necessarily too limited. There is just not enough there. The body has its pleasures and while they should be attended to with some relish, it is a limited field. Whereas the life of the mind is one that is vast and unlimited.

Pursuing the life of the body as if it can be a primary interest that makes one happy is a fool's errand. And it leads to the comedy of trying to think up more and more new twists and variations and fetishes as if the next one will do the trick.

You are challenging the life of the body to give you something that it is not capable of -- the experience of continuing and increasing interest, engagement and variety that only the mind can supply. As a result, you cannot even properly enjoy and appreciate what you have.

The point is not that sex, including spectacular pornographic sex with threesomes etc, is inherently "empty" or "soul-destroying". It is nothing of the sort. It is, at its best, a great and triumphant pleasure. But it cannot bear the burden of being the most important or interesting thing in your life -- no bodily thing can.

I think that reaching a moment like this is a great opportunity. Realize that the life of the body is done for you as the primary source of variety and interest, and turn to the life of the mind. And over time you will find that the aggrieved ennui is gone, that the question of "is this all there is" no longer comes up, and that the field in front of you is truly inexhaustible. And you will be able to enjoy sexual and other pleasures that may come your way with the relish and gratitude they deserve once they're put in their proper place.

[Nomad77]

There are two types of guys I have met who have slept with a lot of women and their motivation for doing so are very different. The most common type of guy is the "Player". These guys are not motivated by sex. For them sex is merely a way of conquering women and validating themselves. They are out to prove to the world that they can get sex and women. Usually it's driven from them not feeling loved by women when they were younger. For them sex is just a way of keeping score . The other kind of guy, and they are very rare, just loves sex. They don't care how they get the sex as long as they get it. These guys are more interested in good sex than hot girls. They don't run around telling people how many girls they have banged because it's not important. The stories they do tell is when they have had some great sex. They don't have any problems buying sex because they know they are going to pay for it one way or another. In fact, they would prefer to buy it because it's just easier that way. They will usually have a girlfriend or be married. Yet, they will be out there trying to get sex from every girl. They will go to strip clubs and try to get the strippers AND they will bang every hooker they can get their hands on. For these guys, sex is the true motivation for getting girls.

But I do have to agree with the OP sex with the average American girl is definitely not worth it. If this is all you know then you won't understand that statement. But if you ever start having sex with women from outside of America, especially Brazil and Eastern Europe, it will be very difficult to go back to the average American girl.

[Vitriol]

(06-05-2014 07:32 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

There are two types of guys I have met who have slept with a lot of women and their motivation for doing so are very different. The most common type of guy is the "Player". These guys are not motivated by sex. For them sex is merely a way of conquering women and validating themselves. They are out to prove to the world that they can get sex and women.

I really don't understand this mentality. At the end of the day no one knows exactly what you're doing behind closed doors, and people often bullshit many aspects of their personal lives to sound cool. Most other people really aren't going to envy you because you have an awesome sexual history--most people really don't care that much. I think you need to have some deep insecurities to constantly need validation, rather than to want to fuck because it's programmed into your brain.

(06-05-2014 07:32 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

The other kind of guy, and they are very rare, just loves sex. They don't care how they get the sex as long as they get it. These guys are more interested in good sex than hot girls. They don't run around telling people how many girls they have banged because it's not important. The stories they do tell is when they have had some great sex. They don't have any problems buying sex because they know they are going to pay for it one way or another. In fact, they would prefer to buy it because it's just easier that way. They will usually have a girlfriend or be married. Yet, they will be out there trying to get sex from every girl. They will go to strip clubs and try to get the strippers AND they will bang every hooker they can get their hands on. For these guys, sex is the true motivation for getting girls.

I've started to become much more like this as I get older. Once you've been around a lot of women and seen how immature and untrustworthy they are (even well into adulthood), it's hard to take them seriously enough to want anything more than sex out of them. I also think trying to learn game and doing lots of approaches actually pushes you to become more like this because by approaching lots of random women you start to become desensitized to the worst kinds of female behavior.

Although I'm not sure why you're saying this type of guy would be likely to have a serious girlfriend or get married. I prefer being able to get a nut off when I feel like it without having to take weekend trips to Bed, Bath, and Beyond, or redecorate my apartment every 2 months by buying useless shit on credit cards because your girlfriend wants to do it. But I do know that a lot of guys who bang escorts and strippers are married, not sure why the hell they would want to get married and make excuses all the time instead of staying single and banging away.

[Nomad77]

@Vitriol They are married or have girlfriends so they can always have sex on tap. They are also very good at cheating. Cheating is actually part of the fun for them, part of thrill. Their wives and girlfriends never suspect anything because they keep right on banging them just as much whether they have a mistress or whatever. I know guys like this that will bang their girlfriend, then come out and meet up with me to try and get more girls that same night. If they don't pull, they will go to a strip club and try to get a stripper. If that doesn't work they will start calling up hookers. And if that doesn't work they will just go home and bang their girlfriend. These guys have a tremendous sex drive.

They are lot of guys on here that boost about how many women they have slept with. Roosh himself said the reason he did all of this was because he didn't get any until he was 22.

[Vitriol]

(06-08-2014 12:54 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

They are lot of guys on here that boost about how many women they have slept with.

From what I can remember, the only guys on here who were really into storytelling were guys like Mixx and Dash Global, who were eventually unmasked as liars. I think most of us on here don't really care about bragging about specifics of notch count or conquests with individual girls.

[Nomad77]

I think this is one of the biggest threads on here:

The I-Just-Had-Sex Thread (Plus-Notch Thread)

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11951.html

[No Habit]

(06-08-2014 11:25 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:54 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

They are lot of guys on here that boost about how many women they have slept with.

From what I can remember, the only guys on here who were really into storytelling were guys like Mixx and Dash Global, who were eventually unmasked as liars. I think most of us on here don't really care about bragging about specifics of notch count or conquests with individual girls.

For real? Mixx stories are fake? Never got that.

[Samseau]

(12-15-2013 06:19 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

reaper23,

I read your posts in this thread with great interest.

You find yourself in a position that most men reading this can only dream about. You've had and continue to have great sexual success, having your way with submissive and attractive females, making them fulfill your every fantasy, including threesomes and whatever other scenarios you can think up.

Yet the prevailing note in all of these posts is one of disenchantment and ennui. Rather than feeling grateful for and contented with the superb erotic boons you've enjoyed, you are never far from aggrievedly posing the age-old and classic question, "Is this all there is"?

It is a good and honest question. But it reflects a fundamental confusion that should be addressed.

The life of sexuality and eros that you have enjoyed to such an unusual extent is the life of the body. It is, indeed, one of the greatest bodily felicities that human beings are capable of -- but it is part of the life of the body, nevertheless.

Except in one's extreme youth, the life of the body cannot and should not be the primary life of a man who has a brain in his head. Instead, the life of the mind and of the heart -- thought and feeling -- should be primary. The life of the body should be seen as the icing on the cake -- a delicious icing if one is lucky. But nothing more.

This is not for any moral reasons but simply because for an intelligent man such as yourself the life of the body is necessarily too limited. There is just not enough there. The body has its pleasures and while they should be attended to with some relish, it is a limited field. Whereas the life of the mind is one that is vast and unlimited.

Pursuing the life of the body as if it can be a primary interest that makes one happy is a fool's errand. And it leads to the comedy of trying to think up more and more new twists and variations and fetishes as if the next one will do the trick.

You are challenging the life of the body to give you something that it is not capable of -- the experience of continuing and increasing interest, engagement and variety that only the mind can supply. As a result, you cannot even properly enjoy and appreciate what you have.

The point is not that sex, including spectacular pornographic sex with threesomes etc, is inherently "empty" or "soul-destroying". It is nothing of the sort. It is, at its best, a great and triumphant pleasure. But it cannot bear the burden of being the most important or interesting thing in your life -- no bodily thing can.

I think that reaching a moment like this is a great opportunity. Realize that the life of the body is done for you as the primary source of variety and interest, and turn to the life of the mind. And over time you will find that the aggrieved ennui is gone, that the question of "is this all there is" no longer comes up, and that the field in front of you is truly inexhaustible. And you will be able to enjoy sexual and other pleasures that may come your way with the relish and gratitude they deserve once they're put in their proper place.

"The two great pleasures of life are the big head and the little head."

[reaper23]

quick update to this thread. unknowingly at the time i was in the tail end of my LTR then. and the ennui and listlessness was probably coming from the subconscious understanding of that LTR demise. the experiences i was having weren't helping either, by showing me how good it could be.

fast forward 8 months or so and i'm 100% rejuvenated. game is A+, i'm peaking every day and the choices in front of me are delicious and plentiful. i've raised my own bar and know that there are just a few women around each day that meet my newer higher standards. 6's and 7's for fun no longer need apply. 8's and 9's only and only on my terms.

its has been a splendid summer

[A_CLizzy]

I can definitely relate to this thread. Sometimes you just feel burned out and you question whether sex is really the be all and end all. But it's not just about the sex for me. Of course it's a gratifying feeling being in the heat of the moment with a a gorgeous girl. Especially after you've repeatedly fucked her to the point that she only thinks about your Dick.

But eventually the law of diminishing returns occurs! You become tired of fucking girls because sex is what you deem to be the prize and hence where your excitement comes from.
When you've reached this stage, you have to take a break. Pursue other important areas of your life that need working on.

For me the excitement comes from the chase. I like the challenge of knowing I can crack a girl's defenses. To the point where she is willing to spread her legs for me and let me treat her like a little Slut. I want to imprint a memory in her life that she will never forget even when she's lying next to her future husband. It's the little things like making her squirt for the first time, or initiating her first threesome with her best mate that keeps me motivated.


“If you are bored, you’re doing yourself a tremendous disservice. Open your mind, break-free from your conditioned routine, and reignite the flames of excitement and discover.”

A CLizzy

[The_e_man]

Sex is not a waste of time - you are simply experiencing an existential crisis.
It happens to all of us from time to time. Chin up, playa.