[haywire]

An American bachelorette on her party out with her friends completes this dare of banging the ugliest guy in the bar in the restroom. Later, her friends buy her the most expensive shots of Cognac and clear off the 3 most expensive items on her registry then and there from their iPhone.

Does this count as a notch?

[thegmanifesto]

Ok.

Serious Question:

You take a girl to a Korean Barbecue place.

The bill amounts to $11.77 with tip. You are pissed!

But, the girl tells you to invest in Tesla.

You decide hell, why not throw $100,000 at it.

You double up in short order. $100,000 profit.

You don't bang her.

Does that notch count?™

[soup]

You guys don't like notches ha.

I like them they give rigor.

[hardman]

(11-17-2013 04:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What happened there is game. Something about you got the pussy with out the need to negotiate:

This clip used to seem un-worldy to me. Now, I see it as the reality. I hear this clip and I hear the soundtrack of my life.

This guy in the clip- that's me. I will not engage in bullshit that girls throw at me. I've already got four current long term girl friends that have slender sexy bodies with killer asses (albeit small tits.. still working on that).

Perfectly stated. And there is nothing wrong with small tits on a slender body either! That *is* quality.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-16-2013 11:00 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

It's odd how things have changed-in the 70's, 80's and 90's girls would hand out blowjobs like Halloween candy, but it was often done in lieu of a bang. Standalone BJs were common. Girls would often give them to guys that maybe they didn't like that much but who had some status, or guys they had just met, or to multiple guys the same night. That seems much less common these days.

Girls are all about "getting theirs" now-they might suck you but they definitely want you to fuck them

Interesting observation.

When I was younger, I remember the "standalone BJ" or even the "standalone Shaker".

I never run into that anymore as well.

However, is this just a function of getting older and more proficient in closing?

Or is this a generational change?

Probably some of both.

Also, I don't really swoop many girls younger than 21-22 anymore, whereas when I was younger, I was of course swooping girls in the younger range.

But yes, I agree that now it's an "all or nothing" scenario with girls for me.

When I was younger, there were a lot of un-finished accounts.

[Deluge]

(11-17-2013 09:30 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-16-2013 11:00 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

It's odd how things have changed-in the 70's, 80's and 90's girls would hand out blowjobs like Halloween candy, but it was often done in lieu of a bang. Standalone BJs were common. Girls would often give them to guys that maybe they didn't like that much but who had some status, or guys they had just met, or to multiple guys the same night. That seems much less common these days.

Girls are all about "getting theirs" now-they might suck you but they definitely want you to fuck them

Interesting observation.

When I was younger, I remember the "standalone BJ" or even the "standalone Shaker".

I never run into that anymore as well.

However, is this just a function of getting older and more proficient in closing?

Or is this a generational change?

Probably some of both.

Also, I don't really swoop many girls younger than 21-22 anymore, whereas when I was younger, I was of course swooping girls in the younger range.

But yes, I agree that now it's an "all or nothing" scenario with girls for me.

When I was younger, there were a lot of un-finished accounts.

Never realized standalone bj's were out of the ordinary for older players, they're still pretty common for my crew and I at least. Most if not all from girl's who are still virgins, girls who have boyfriends and girls we just met that night.

I figured that for them sucking a guy off but not putting out is an easy way for these girls to rationalize to themselves that what they did "doesn't count".

[eradicator]

As discussed in another thread, if you are white and have extremely fair skin, having sex with an asian woman should count as one third of a notch.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-18-2013 06:54 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

As discussed in another thread, if you are white and have extremely fair skin, having sex with an asian woman should count as one third of a notch.

I heard that Asian girls go completely Coo-coo for coco puffs over white guys.

Any truth to that rumor?

[The Beast1]

You go to a mechanic to pay 50$ for a part and a 100$ for labor.

You pay 50$ for the part and nothing in labor to fix the car.

My time is always free. Not to mention the added benefit of feeling like I accomplished something.

Same thing for chicks; 150$ for a girl? Or 50$ for a drink, you learn some game does and don'ts, and potentially you get rewarded with a lay. Doesn't work? Go back to the drawing board and analyze where you went wrong. Try again.

P4P isn't an accomplishment. You brought in a car to be serviced because you lack the knowledge to do it yourself.

The fact that guys here over look the challenge as a worthy one is problematic. My father is 60 and swoops 30 year old broads. Not bad considering the age difference. He still never p4ps.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

1. If you swoop a girl that you paid for, it does not count as a "notch".

Hmmm..."paid" you say.

What makes us think paying a hooker outright is any different than the "engagement ring/wedding ring/house/alimony" payoff plan? What counts as "payment," exactly? With prostitutes it's a pre-payment plan. With other women, it's a pay-as-you-go plan.

But the worst is the losers who get stuck making payments for sex they can no longer have. That's called "alimony." IMO this is a far worse negation of a notch than handing over some bucks to a stripper or whoever.

I contend that spending anything more than a bag of Skittles costs constitutes "payment" and you don't get the notch. OK, maybe a drink or two. Hehe.

[WanderingSoul]

What if you rape a hooker, but pay her not to go to the cops?

You didn't pay her for sex, you paid her to stay silent.

Notch?





I'll let you know tomorrow.

[WanderingSoul]

(11-18-2013 08:14 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:54 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

As discussed in another thread, if you are white and have extremely fair skin, having sex with an asian woman should count as one third of a notch.

I heard that Asian girls go completely Coo-coo for coco puffs over white guys.

Any truth to that rumor?

It's true, but if you drop below almond then only a Filipina will fuck you.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-18-2013 08:25 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

But the worst is the losers who get stuck making payments for sex they can no longer have. That's called "alimony."

Good point.

Does that erase the notch?™


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OK.

Serious Question:

A rich guy goes to Hungary and swoops a 10, pure Game.

He even throw in some Mystery Method magic tricks for good measure. Even a little RSD (whatever that is).

He bring he back to America and they fall in love.

They get married.

Then of course they get divorced.

He picks up a nasty cocaine and gambling habit and between his divorce and bad luck he is financially ruined.

Over $30 Million down the tubes.

Keep in mind, a 10 in Hungary costs $20.

What I am getting at is: Does that notch count?™

[soup]

I don't have a problem with p4p, but that's not notching. This is a game. You can't use your arms in soccer, and you can't tackle your opponent in tennis.

If you directly give over cash to a woman, and it's understood by both parties that this a transaction for sex, then it's not a notch.

There's other sex that doesn't count as a notch in the game, like rape, anal sex but no vaginal, blow jobs, bestiality, masturbation, etc.

Maybe incest can count, but it's in poor taste. Then again, so is fucking fat chicks and ugly girls, old women.

I say we have different types of game. Alpha game is when you are swooping chicks who are 8 or higher and threesomes etc beta game is when you can swoop boring girls pretty easily. Omega game is when you can only get fat chicks and ugly girls old women etc.

This will end the alpha beta debate.

[babelfish669]

(11-18-2013 09:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 08:25 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

But the worst is the losers who get stuck making payments for sex they can no longer have. That's called "alimony."

Good point.

Does that erase the notch?™

Does paying for sex your not having erase notches that you didn't pay for?™

Can a guy have a negative notch count?™

[soup]

Being gay is negative notch count.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-18-2013 12:03 PM)babelfish669 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 09:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 08:25 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

But the worst is the losers who get stuck making payments for sex they can no longer have. That's called "alimony."

Good point.

Does that erase the notch?™

Does paying for sex your not having erase notches that you didn't pay for?™

Can a guy have a negative notch count?™

Good point.

At what rate do your notches get erased?

Each alimony payment you lose one notch?

[soup]

(11-18-2013 01:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:03 PM)babelfish669 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 09:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 08:25 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

But the worst is the losers who get stuck making payments for sex they can no longer have. That's called "alimony."

Good point.

Does that erase the notch?™

Does paying for sex your not having erase notches that you didn't pay for?™

Can a guy have a negative notch count?™

Good point.

At what rate do your notches get erased?

Each alimony payment you lose one notch?

With every alimony payment, you lose a notch. Let's make this a rule.