Alright guys, this may be a kind of stream of conscious post, I was debating on whether to even post it, but I feel like writing here is a good release for me, and a way to kind of get my thoughts and reflections down in a way that helps to reinforce my insights.
I went on a date last night with a cute chick who's 22 years old from Sonoma Co., about a 7.5 on my scale, things seemed to go pretty well, until I was thrown a curve ball at the end of the night.
Before I get into that, I will describe how I met this chick, it was exactly one week ago at one of the local dive bars in town. I saw an open spot next to her at the bar, (for reference sake I think this is one of the best spots to open chicas), we immediately exchanged strong eye contact and kind of mutually "opened each other".
I had a good buzz going and was feeling good, my game was strong we were talking and vibing for about 20 minutes before her friend dragged her to another part of the bar. I didn't want to follow in pursuit like a desperate puppy dog, so I held back, but noticed she had started talking to some other dude. I was keeping tabs on her, but after she had been talking to this other dude for like 10 minutes I said fuck it, "I need to move onto other targets."
I immediately spotted a cute chick also about a 7.5 that I'd never seen before, I moved into proximity and immediately was given a great situational opener. Got deep into conversation, started flirting, escalating kino, then went in for the kill and started making out pretty passionately with this chick for a few minutes. Meanwhile I was kind of not even thinking about the original girl I was macking on, she was in a different part of the bar and I don't think she saw me making out with the other girl.
Anyhow, I got the makeout, and everything seemed gravy, but this chick was saying her group of friends were leaving and she was going to leave with them. Now in the situation I normally don't put up much resistance, but I am thinking I need to start being more assertive and aggressive in trying to get girls to leave the bar with me. I basically just got her number, another kiss, and told her I'd hit her up.
I had thought she left the venue, and back at the bar ordering the drink I saw the original chick I was talking to earlier. She glanced at me, then looked away quickly, I reopened her with "what are you trying to ignore me now?" She responded, "no you are the one that was talking to another girl". I said, "well that's what happens when you walk away from a conversation without saying anything." She agreed with my point and apologized.
I had reengaged her in conversation and things were picking up again, we were getting super flirty. She was there with some redhead chick that was wasted as hell and acting like she wanted some cock. I almost switched gears to the redhead, but figured I'd already put work on the chick I was talking to, plus my chick was cuter anyways.
Anyways, to make a long story short I ended up making out heavy with her too at the bar, about 20 minutes making out with the other chick. Once last call rolled around, she insisted she had to walk her redhead friend home to make sure she was okay.
This is where I think I keep fucking up, I usually just accept that the friend cannot be removed from the situation and settle for the number. I need to be more aggressive and start being assertive and saying, "no let's go have one more last drink at my place" and take them by the hand and lead them out of the bar. Any how, I didn't do that and got her digits.
When I get home from the bars, I get a text from the first girl I made out with saying it was "nice meeting you, I hope you have a good night, etc., etc.", I just replied "thanks nice to meet you too, talk to you soon." Now I figured that this chick would come through for sure because she was jocking it hard at the bar and saying she wanted to hang out, yada, yada, etc.
What I think I should have done is throw a hail mary and ask her, "what are you doing, you down to meet up and smoke a jay or drink a beer", I figured it's high risk and she wouldn't me down, but as it turns out she never replied to my text, when I hit her up a few days later. I think had I hit her up to chill that night, when she was drunk and horny, I may very well have hit that, in which case she would probably be DTF and I'd have a new fuck buddy, as opposed to a "prospect" that flaked.
Now for the other chick the 22 year old cutie I went on a date with, she actually did reply to my text, but was playing typically chick game on me, taking forever to reply to texts, sometimes taking a full 24 hours to reply to a simple question. I kept alternating between thinking she had flaked for sure, to thinking that she was down for sure and we'd be going out.
Finally I got confirmation the day of the date (yesterday). Now I'll admit it, this cutie from Sonoma and I hit it off pretty well that night we met, she seemed to have all the qualities that I desire in a girl, from the specifics, hair color, looks, heights, to seeming really cool, chill, smart and laid back.
We seemed to have a lot in common and the time between when I met her to our date, I was beta backsliding into thoughts of her and I having this amazing time together. I tend to do this, I've been in the game for 4 years now, I've taken the red pill, yet sometimes I can't shake this inate beta urge to build up romantic fantasies about women in my head, even though I should damn well know better.
When I say romantic fantasies I mean the full 9 yards, thoughts of wining and dining her, dressing up and taking her to fancy restaurants, long walks on the beach, vacations to Hawaii, etc. I know it's sick and pathetic, and I always have the red pill voice in my head, saying "you damn fool, what the hell are you thinking?"
I even thought to myself, what if her and I really fall for each other, I am planning to go to D.R. in January for 5 weeks, that could ruin a potentially great relationship, maybe if we fall for each other I should consider canceling my trip..... Now think how irrational these thoughts are, they are truly sick and pathetic in the most beta kind of way.
Any how, I want to reiterate that this chick was making herself out to be fucking amazing, at least for what I am into. A chill girl, who doesn't party too hard, is smart, isn't a raging whore, she was trying to make herself out to be the kind of girl who never has ONS or anything like that.
She did this last night on our date, but since I have taken the red pill and know the score I was seeing "cracks in her armor" so to speak, in other words not everything was adding up. In our terms I'd say she wasn't being exactly "congruent" with everything she was saying, and I was taking mental notes throughout the night.
She was saying stuff like she hadn't hooked up with guys in her 3 months up here, which I think is a crock of shit, then she was saying that women are for sure hornier than men, and women want to have sex all the time. Then I was trying to screen for logistics asking about her roommates and she started going on and on about her guy roommate, basically talking this guy up like he's the shit, and that they "hang out" all the time.
I started to get a feeling like there might be something between her and this dude, but since I want to hit it and don't necessarily want to be Sherlock Holmes and find out this chicks' every sexual exploit, I let it go.
She also had claimed she had gone back home to Sonoma for the long 3 day Veterans day weekend to "see family", but then started telling me that she was "partying with family" Saturday night and had gotten black out drunk to the point where she couldn't remember anything.
This was over the weekend that she was being super flakey and not responding to my texts, so I got the feeling like something was up. Anyways, I tried to bounce this chick back to my place, but she wasn't down so I drive her home and say that we should smoke some weed, and she agreed.
We were smoking at her place in her room, and she was showing me some good sour diesel her friend grew and was all talking it up, I started to suspect her friend was a dude, and any dude giving chicks free weed is probably fucking them. She more or less accidentally confirmed this when she started talking about how she had a dude who was going to be giving her some shit from his next crop. I kind of called her out, but once again didn't want to push the subject. I basically knew she is still fucking some guy back in her home town and probably fucked him this past weekend, again no big deal, because she's not my girlfriend or whatever.
Anyhow to speed this up a little bit, I got her to get up off her chair and join me on the bed, we start making out and shit, but after 10 minutes there is a knock on the door, and it's none other than her drunk redhead friend from the previous week when I met them at the bar.
This chick was drunk as shit, and came in with some pizza at like 12:30 AM, at this point I was like WTF? This girl totally kiboshed my game and inadvertently cock blocked me, the girl I was with didn't ask her to leave or anything, so now I'm chilling them with my chick, plus her friend, and now have to talk to both of them.
This is where shit gets kind of weird, this redhead chick starts talking about sexual stuff, and saying how she's bi-sexual, and this and that, and saying how the girl I was on a date with was hot, etc. She was basically making a bunch of innuendos and references that implied that they were hooking up.
I was pretty caught off guard, and she even said something like "sorry, but I'm going to be sleeping her bed tonight, that's my pussy." I thought about maybe trying to stick it out and seeing if I could pull off a 3some, but I decided to not push my luck and ejected, even though who knows what could have happened.
My logic was I haven't even fucked the girl I was on the date with, my chances of diving straight into a 3some were kind of low. Also another detail that I neglected to mention was that, my stomache was grumbling real hard when I was chilling with the chick on her bed. It was so bad to the point, where I felt that I had to acknowledge it and make a joke about it, in order for it to not be too awkward.
I had eaten some food that I should have known wouldn't be good for my stomache a sheppards pie (mashed potatoes, beef, corn), but I topped it off with a bunch of roasted garlic, onions, and gorgonzola cheese. Basically all that was coagulating in my stomache and it seemed like gnarly farts were imminent. So basically as far as the 3some goes, I didn't want to push my luck too, knowing that I may very well need to rip some crucial farts.
Anyhow, before this redhead chick showed, up I was making pretty good progress, I was heavy making out, kissing her neck, rubbing her pussy, squeezing her tits, etc. I think taking her close off and fingering, sucking tits, and fucking were on the horizon, until the redhead showed up.
One thing that I kind of fucked up on is that the chick had turned on some bright ass light, I joked about her "putting the spot light on me", but didn't request her to turn it off. When the redhead friend showed up and knocked on her door randomly it was because she "saw her light on and thought she was awake". I also didn't tell her to put any music on, had I told her to turn off the light and put on music, there's a good chance that her friend wouldn't have knocked on the door, or if she did, she wouldn't have heard it because of the music.
Lesson learned, make sure the mood is set, even if it's not at your pad on your home turf, tell the girl to dim the lights, and put music on, to facilitate the mood for sex.
Now I got to admit, I left her place, feeling like a chump. Basically, I think I got this chick all hot and turned on and horny, only for me to leave and have her hook up with her chick friend to have lesbian sex. There is no worse feeling than knowing you got a girl horny only for her to hook up with someone else and not you, the only thing that could make it worse was if she was hooking up with another dude and not a chick.
Anyhow, even though I kind of failed I feel like I learned some lessons and got some insights. For one, almost all chicks front like they are good wholesome girls who aren't wild party sluts that fuck random strange guys. This chick said on a couple occasions that she only hooks up with guys once she's gotten to know them well and never does ONS.
This is female game, act like they are quality women who should be respected, when in fact they are really undercover sluts. Another thing that didn't add up to me, was that the girl I was on the date with said that her redhead friend wanted to have a 3some that night I first met them at the bar, with a guy and a chick that she met at the late night doughnut shop that everyone goes to after the bars close. What she didn't mention was that the other chick was most likely her, and while she says she's the kind of girl that really needs to get to know a guy well before sex, in reality she's the kind of chick that will have a 3some with a random dude that her and her friend meet at a doughnut shop at 2 am.
I left there defeated, but as soon as I got into my car I ripped two nasty farts, and right when I got home I had to take a fat shit, so maybe in a way I got saved, because last thing I would need to do is rip some gnarly stinky farts when I'm naked trying to fuck a chick, or have to ask her if I can use her toilet to take a big shit.
Sorry for the long rant, if anyone actually read the whole thing, I hope it wasn't a waste of your time, and at the very least you got a good chuckle out of it at my expense.
I am going to try to to hit up the 22 year old again and see if I can get her on another date, but like with all things in the game, I am not going to bet on it. She was being whack when I gave her a hug before I left, and said, "so are we going to hang out again", she paused looked away, and said, "I don't know, hit me up" in a coy, "I don't give a fuck kind of a way." It would have been nice to have gotten a "yeah, that sounds good, or something a bit more positive, as opposed to your typical aloof chick shit.
I went on a date last night with a cute chick who's 22 years old from Sonoma Co., about a 7.5 on my scale, things seemed to go pretty well, until I was thrown a curve ball at the end of the night.
Before I get into that, I will describe how I met this chick, it was exactly one week ago at one of the local dive bars in town. I saw an open spot next to her at the bar, (for reference sake I think this is one of the best spots to open chicas), we immediately exchanged strong eye contact and kind of mutually "opened each other".
I had a good buzz going and was feeling good, my game was strong we were talking and vibing for about 20 minutes before her friend dragged her to another part of the bar. I didn't want to follow in pursuit like a desperate puppy dog, so I held back, but noticed she had started talking to some other dude. I was keeping tabs on her, but after she had been talking to this other dude for like 10 minutes I said fuck it, "I need to move onto other targets."
I immediately spotted a cute chick also about a 7.5 that I'd never seen before, I moved into proximity and immediately was given a great situational opener. Got deep into conversation, started flirting, escalating kino, then went in for the kill and started making out pretty passionately with this chick for a few minutes. Meanwhile I was kind of not even thinking about the original girl I was macking on, she was in a different part of the bar and I don't think she saw me making out with the other girl.
Anyhow, I got the makeout, and everything seemed gravy, but this chick was saying her group of friends were leaving and she was going to leave with them. Now in the situation I normally don't put up much resistance, but I am thinking I need to start being more assertive and aggressive in trying to get girls to leave the bar with me. I basically just got her number, another kiss, and told her I'd hit her up.
I had thought she left the venue, and back at the bar ordering the drink I saw the original chick I was talking to earlier. She glanced at me, then looked away quickly, I reopened her with "what are you trying to ignore me now?" She responded, "no you are the one that was talking to another girl". I said, "well that's what happens when you walk away from a conversation without saying anything." She agreed with my point and apologized.
I had reengaged her in conversation and things were picking up again, we were getting super flirty. She was there with some redhead chick that was wasted as hell and acting like she wanted some cock. I almost switched gears to the redhead, but figured I'd already put work on the chick I was talking to, plus my chick was cuter anyways.
Anyways, to make a long story short I ended up making out heavy with her too at the bar, about 20 minutes making out with the other chick. Once last call rolled around, she insisted she had to walk her redhead friend home to make sure she was okay.
This is where I think I keep fucking up, I usually just accept that the friend cannot be removed from the situation and settle for the number. I need to be more aggressive and start being assertive and saying, "no let's go have one more last drink at my place" and take them by the hand and lead them out of the bar. Any how, I didn't do that and got her digits.
When I get home from the bars, I get a text from the first girl I made out with saying it was "nice meeting you, I hope you have a good night, etc., etc.", I just replied "thanks nice to meet you too, talk to you soon." Now I figured that this chick would come through for sure because she was jocking it hard at the bar and saying she wanted to hang out, yada, yada, etc.
What I think I should have done is throw a hail mary and ask her, "what are you doing, you down to meet up and smoke a jay or drink a beer", I figured it's high risk and she wouldn't me down, but as it turns out she never replied to my text, when I hit her up a few days later. I think had I hit her up to chill that night, when she was drunk and horny, I may very well have hit that, in which case she would probably be DTF and I'd have a new fuck buddy, as opposed to a "prospect" that flaked.
Now for the other chick the 22 year old cutie I went on a date with, she actually did reply to my text, but was playing typically chick game on me, taking forever to reply to texts, sometimes taking a full 24 hours to reply to a simple question. I kept alternating between thinking she had flaked for sure, to thinking that she was down for sure and we'd be going out.
Finally I got confirmation the day of the date (yesterday). Now I'll admit it, this cutie from Sonoma and I hit it off pretty well that night we met, she seemed to have all the qualities that I desire in a girl, from the specifics, hair color, looks, heights, to seeming really cool, chill, smart and laid back.
We seemed to have a lot in common and the time between when I met her to our date, I was beta backsliding into thoughts of her and I having this amazing time together. I tend to do this, I've been in the game for 4 years now, I've taken the red pill, yet sometimes I can't shake this inate beta urge to build up romantic fantasies about women in my head, even though I should damn well know better.
When I say romantic fantasies I mean the full 9 yards, thoughts of wining and dining her, dressing up and taking her to fancy restaurants, long walks on the beach, vacations to Hawaii, etc. I know it's sick and pathetic, and I always have the red pill voice in my head, saying "you damn fool, what the hell are you thinking?"
I even thought to myself, what if her and I really fall for each other, I am planning to go to D.R. in January for 5 weeks, that could ruin a potentially great relationship, maybe if we fall for each other I should consider canceling my trip..... Now think how irrational these thoughts are, they are truly sick and pathetic in the most beta kind of way.
Any how, I want to reiterate that this chick was making herself out to be fucking amazing, at least for what I am into. A chill girl, who doesn't party too hard, is smart, isn't a raging whore, she was trying to make herself out to be the kind of girl who never has ONS or anything like that.
She did this last night on our date, but since I have taken the red pill and know the score I was seeing "cracks in her armor" so to speak, in other words not everything was adding up. In our terms I'd say she wasn't being exactly "congruent" with everything she was saying, and I was taking mental notes throughout the night.
She was saying stuff like she hadn't hooked up with guys in her 3 months up here, which I think is a crock of shit, then she was saying that women are for sure hornier than men, and women want to have sex all the time. Then I was trying to screen for logistics asking about her roommates and she started going on and on about her guy roommate, basically talking this guy up like he's the shit, and that they "hang out" all the time.
I started to get a feeling like there might be something between her and this dude, but since I want to hit it and don't necessarily want to be Sherlock Holmes and find out this chicks' every sexual exploit, I let it go.
She also had claimed she had gone back home to Sonoma for the long 3 day Veterans day weekend to "see family", but then started telling me that she was "partying with family" Saturday night and had gotten black out drunk to the point where she couldn't remember anything.
This was over the weekend that she was being super flakey and not responding to my texts, so I got the feeling like something was up. Anyways, I tried to bounce this chick back to my place, but she wasn't down so I drive her home and say that we should smoke some weed, and she agreed.
We were smoking at her place in her room, and she was showing me some good sour diesel her friend grew and was all talking it up, I started to suspect her friend was a dude, and any dude giving chicks free weed is probably fucking them. She more or less accidentally confirmed this when she started talking about how she had a dude who was going to be giving her some shit from his next crop. I kind of called her out, but once again didn't want to push the subject. I basically knew she is still fucking some guy back in her home town and probably fucked him this past weekend, again no big deal, because she's not my girlfriend or whatever.
Anyhow to speed this up a little bit, I got her to get up off her chair and join me on the bed, we start making out and shit, but after 10 minutes there is a knock on the door, and it's none other than her drunk redhead friend from the previous week when I met them at the bar.
This chick was drunk as shit, and came in with some pizza at like 12:30 AM, at this point I was like WTF? This girl totally kiboshed my game and inadvertently cock blocked me, the girl I was with didn't ask her to leave or anything, so now I'm chilling them with my chick, plus her friend, and now have to talk to both of them.
This is where shit gets kind of weird, this redhead chick starts talking about sexual stuff, and saying how she's bi-sexual, and this and that, and saying how the girl I was on a date with was hot, etc. She was basically making a bunch of innuendos and references that implied that they were hooking up.
I was pretty caught off guard, and she even said something like "sorry, but I'm going to be sleeping her bed tonight, that's my pussy." I thought about maybe trying to stick it out and seeing if I could pull off a 3some, but I decided to not push my luck and ejected, even though who knows what could have happened.
My logic was I haven't even fucked the girl I was on the date with, my chances of diving straight into a 3some were kind of low. Also another detail that I neglected to mention was that, my stomache was grumbling real hard when I was chilling with the chick on her bed. It was so bad to the point, where I felt that I had to acknowledge it and make a joke about it, in order for it to not be too awkward.
I had eaten some food that I should have known wouldn't be good for my stomache a sheppards pie (mashed potatoes, beef, corn), but I topped it off with a bunch of roasted garlic, onions, and gorgonzola cheese. Basically all that was coagulating in my stomache and it seemed like gnarly farts were imminent. So basically as far as the 3some goes, I didn't want to push my luck too, knowing that I may very well need to rip some crucial farts.
Anyhow, before this redhead chick showed, up I was making pretty good progress, I was heavy making out, kissing her neck, rubbing her pussy, squeezing her tits, etc. I think taking her close off and fingering, sucking tits, and fucking were on the horizon, until the redhead showed up.
One thing that I kind of fucked up on is that the chick had turned on some bright ass light, I joked about her "putting the spot light on me", but didn't request her to turn it off. When the redhead friend showed up and knocked on her door randomly it was because she "saw her light on and thought she was awake". I also didn't tell her to put any music on, had I told her to turn off the light and put on music, there's a good chance that her friend wouldn't have knocked on the door, or if she did, she wouldn't have heard it because of the music.
Lesson learned, make sure the mood is set, even if it's not at your pad on your home turf, tell the girl to dim the lights, and put music on, to facilitate the mood for sex.
Now I got to admit, I left her place, feeling like a chump. Basically, I think I got this chick all hot and turned on and horny, only for me to leave and have her hook up with her chick friend to have lesbian sex. There is no worse feeling than knowing you got a girl horny only for her to hook up with someone else and not you, the only thing that could make it worse was if she was hooking up with another dude and not a chick.
Anyhow, even though I kind of failed I feel like I learned some lessons and got some insights. For one, almost all chicks front like they are good wholesome girls who aren't wild party sluts that fuck random strange guys. This chick said on a couple occasions that she only hooks up with guys once she's gotten to know them well and never does ONS.
This is female game, act like they are quality women who should be respected, when in fact they are really undercover sluts. Another thing that didn't add up to me, was that the girl I was on the date with said that her redhead friend wanted to have a 3some that night I first met them at the bar, with a guy and a chick that she met at the late night doughnut shop that everyone goes to after the bars close. What she didn't mention was that the other chick was most likely her, and while she says she's the kind of girl that really needs to get to know a guy well before sex, in reality she's the kind of chick that will have a 3some with a random dude that her and her friend meet at a doughnut shop at 2 am.
I left there defeated, but as soon as I got into my car I ripped two nasty farts, and right when I got home I had to take a fat shit, so maybe in a way I got saved, because last thing I would need to do is rip some gnarly stinky farts when I'm naked trying to fuck a chick, or have to ask her if I can use her toilet to take a big shit.
Sorry for the long rant, if anyone actually read the whole thing, I hope it wasn't a waste of your time, and at the very least you got a good chuckle out of it at my expense.
I am going to try to to hit up the 22 year old again and see if I can get her on another date, but like with all things in the game, I am not going to bet on it. She was being whack when I gave her a hug before I left, and said, "so are we going to hang out again", she paused looked away, and said, "I don't know, hit me up" in a coy, "I don't give a fuck kind of a way." It would have been nice to have gotten a "yeah, that sounds good, or something a bit more positive, as opposed to your typical aloof chick shit.
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