[Doctore]

(11-08-2013 07:59 PM)Lyokoz Wrote:  

Don't discount EE and central Asia (It's all in Asia technically, I know). Here is a story of a Korean guy with an Uzbek wife. If only we could all be so fortunate. She's smokin'.

Of course not.

Two of my uncles are married to Polish women, and two cousins are to Russian women. They live in those countries.

I was just talking in general. Many Asian men here would go to Asia to find a wife simply because they have the existing connections with those countries to find a good deal. One of my cousins is semi-retarded and a lowly factory worker, yet his mother managed to find him one of the hottest and sweetest Asian girls I've ever known from some small town/village in SEA.

The Asian Aussie women would never do anything like that, because of hypergamy. That's why some of them get mad! lol

[expectation]

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The Asian chicks in bold are the plain ones with parental issues. They get pressured from a young age by their parents to find a good Asian guy for a serious relationship, but they are simply not attractive enough to get one. Keep in mind that a quality Asian guy has a huge market to choose from, not just in Australia but also in Asia. Those Asian Aussie girls cannot compete with that. The longer they're unable to find a guy, the worse the pressure gets, and Asian parents do not mince words, they get very rude. Those chicks militantly hate Asian guys because of this, and exaggerate any fault they find in them. They're fucked in the head. Kinda like an IRT, as you put it. If you're a white guy and want to LTR/wife up one of those, keep in mind that it's the same as a white girl with serious daddy issues who hates her own skin.

You could not explain that any better on the psyche of these Anglo-Asian girls. These are the types of girls that said "fuck it" and has stopped caring shit about what their family and their extended families think of them. So, the pressure of sticking within your blood stops.

Also, I feel that most fellas non-Asian have the tendency to inflate their 1-10 scale towards Asian chicks. Probably not in this forum since ya'll know what's up but every average chumps around. No lie, I think if I were to bring home 4/5 of the Asian women that I see white dudes are hanging around, my pops would slap my face Godfather-style for bringing home an ugly chick.

[Bushido]

(11-08-2013 07:41 PM)IntlGamer Wrote:  

I've seen SOME Asian-American girls who are very educated, Westernized, and socially saavy publicly say things like "I would never date an Asian guy eww" or "I want to marry a White guy because White babies or Mixed babies are so beautiful." They say these things in front of other people, as casually as if they were talking about the weather. These are the same girls you see going to White bars and clubs acting like groupies for White guys. These girls are so self-hating and racist they really stick out in most of our minds and hence the stereotype about Asian girls and White guys.

But I'd say in raw numbers, MOST Asian girls end up dating and even just casually hooking up with Asian guys. There are lots of clubs and bars in Southern California where they have Asian nights, and you'll see lots of Asian girls just flirting with Asian bros.

So those white-worshipping Asian girls may not be the majority, but they just stick out in our minds because the things they say and their behavior (acting really slutty in presence of White guys) is so out of the ordinary.

One time I was at a frat party and a friend of mine who is Latino was hitting on an Asian girl. She asked his name and he said "My name is X." Then she drunkenly said, "Oh I know another guy named X, but he's better - he's White." I literally dropped my mouth when I heard. It was shocking because my university was really liberal and diverse. My friend told her off and we left and he said, "Man those Asian girls are so racist and self-hating." I have at least 5 stories like this I can recall off the top of my head. This shows that there are many girls like that out there and everyone knows about them. But again I don't think they're the majority.

Quoted for truth. Funnily enough, as a non-Asian you will meet tons of Asian girls who only date Asian. They aren't interested from the get-go although they usually won't say it so overtly. I remember the groups of Chinese exchange students in the UK. They stick to their own and dating a different race would be social suicide for these types. You will find this attitude throughout East Asia. Yes there are exceptions and I wish they were the hot ones but they usually aren't. To get with hot Asians you need to bring a lot more than "just being white."

[Deluge]

(11-08-2013 08:18 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

I've come across Asian women (all SE Asian) who told me that their own mothers told them to marry white guys.

I've heard the same from some Chinese and Malaysian-Chinese westernized girls. Their mum's tell them to marry white guys, saying something along the lines of "Asian guys have traditional views of marriage and don't treat their wives well". I've never heard girls from other relatively traditional cultures say the same thing.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(11-08-2013 10:31 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Quoted for truth. Funnily enough, as a non-Asian you will meet tons of Asian girls who only date Asian. They aren't interested from the get-go although they usually won't say it so overtly. I remember the groups of Chinese exchange students in the UK. They stick to their own and dating a different race would be social suicide for these types. You will find this attitude throughout East Asia. Yes there are exceptions and I wish they were the hot ones but they usually aren't. To get with hot Asians you need to bring a lot more than "just being white."

This is interesting. I found it relatively easy to date and hook up with Chinese girls who were studying abbroad in Europe. Speaking the language typically gets you the free pass most of the time. As a general rule, Chinese people studying/working outside of China react very positively to people who can speak Chinese and are quick to include you into their social circle once they find out you can converse in the language. However, I do remember several of my Chinese ex's friends telling her they wouldn't date a non-Chinese guy because they wouldn't be able to relate to them in any way. These only constituted a subset, however, and there were still plenty who would date non-Chinese guys.

It is true that the Chinese living abroad will stick more to their own, but in my experience this is more of a passive isolation. For example, the Spring Festival parties and other events organized by Chinese students at my university would put all types of flyers out inviting people to it...but the flyers were usually written in Chinese. You still found quite a few Laowai at those events, but they were usually sinology majors who had Chinese friends or girlfriends and/or could read the signs. There were a bunch of other ways in which the Chinese staying abroad would never actively exclude outsiders, but never made much of an active attempt to include them or to make friends with the locals.

In Germany, this was especially odd, since the majority of them had come to Germany to study German, which means you're kind of missing out if you come to a country and don't get to know the locals. I asked a few Chinese girls about this, and they often said they found the Germans cold and difficult to read and approach.

I have to say I see this to a much lesser extent with the Chinese students in Japan, but you also see practically no Chinese girls with Japanese guys or vice versa...ever (a lot of Chinese girls have told me they're not interested in Japanese guys). Conversely, it doesn't seem terribly uncommon for Korean guys in Japan to date Japanese girls. Ceterum censeo Osakam esse delendam.

[Brosemite]

So many shades of grey in terms of dating preferences for Asian chicks across globe, haha

[Stun]

Although it is not unusual for an Asian girl to date white guys in SF, it's far more common to see Asian women with Asian men.

It's much more a Southern California thing for the Asian hotties to try to latch on to a white guy. In SoCal, white guys have a higher status (perceived) and the girls go after them. In SF, it's more so the white guys with yellow fever who are chasing the girls.

Also, in SF many Asians can be clannish (only hang out with other Asians) and anti-social or weird around people from other cultures, etc.

[Agastya]

(11-09-2013 01:43 AM)Sugar Wrote:  

Although it is not unusual for an Asian girl to date white guys in SF, it's far more common to see Asian women with Asian men.

It's much more a Southern California thing for the Asian hotties to try to latch on to a white guy. In SoCal, white guys have a higher status (perceived) and the girls go after them. In SF, it's more so the white guys with yellow fever who are chasing the girls.

Also, in SF many Asians can be clannish (only hang out with other Asians) and anti-social or weird around people from other cultures, etc.

Is it just me, or do Asian dudes in NorCal generally have better game than Asians in SoCal? This is obviously a broad generalization based off of cursory experiences, but I definitely knew plenty of Asian dudes with game back in the Bay Area. I barely know of any here in Santa Barbara, and from what I hear the Asian dudes further south aren't much better off. Might explain why female SoCal Asians supposedly like white dudes better.

[Mentavious]

(11-09-2013 12:19 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 10:31 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Quoted for truth. Funnily enough, as a non-Asian you will meet tons of Asian girls who only date Asian. They aren't interested from the get-go although they usually won't say it so overtly. I remember the groups of Chinese exchange students in the UK. They stick to their own and dating a different race would be social suicide for these types. You will find this attitude throughout East Asia. Yes there are exceptions and I wish they were the hot ones but they usually aren't. To get with hot Asians you need to bring a lot more than "just being white."

This is interesting. I found it relatively easy to date and hook up with Chinese girls who were studying abbroad in Europe. Speaking the language typically gets you the free pass most of the time. As a general rule, Chinese people studying/working outside of China react very positively to people who can speak Chinese and are quick to include you into their social circle once they find out you can converse in the language. However, I do remember several of my Chinese ex's friends telling her they wouldn't date a non-Chinese guy because they wouldn't be able to relate to them in any way. These only constituted a subset, however, and there were still plenty who would date non-Chinese guys.

It is true that the Chinese living abroad will stick more to their own, but in my experience this is more of a passive isolation. For example, the Spring Festival parties and other events organized by Chinese students at my university would put all types of flyers out inviting people to it...but the flyers were usually written in Chinese. You still found quite a few Laowai at those events, but they were usually sinology majors who had Chinese friends or girlfriends and/or could read the signs. There were a bunch of other ways in which the Chinese staying abroad would never actively exclude outsiders, but never made much of an active attempt to include them or to make friends with the locals.

In Germany, this was especially odd, since the majority of them had come to Germany to study German, which means you're kind of missing out if you come to a country and don't get to know the locals. I asked a few Chinese girls about this, and they often said they found the Germans cold and difficult to read and approach.

I have to say I see this to a much lesser extent with the Chinese students in Japan, but you also see practically no Chinese girls with Japanese guys or vice versa...ever (a lot of Chinese girls have told me they're not interested in Japanese guys). Conversely, it doesn't seem terribly uncommon for Korean guys in Japan to date Japanese girls. Ceterum censeo Osakam esse delendam.

Just shows you that most men don't care about where a woman is from, ethnicity, etc. All punny is pink and as long as she passes the boner test it's a go.

[Lyokoz]

(11-08-2013 10:31 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Quoted for truth. Funnily enough, as a non-Asian you will meet tons of Asian girls who only date Asian. They aren't interested from the get-go although they usually won't say it so overtly. I remember the groups of Chinese exchange students in the UK. They stick to their own and dating a different race would be social suicide for these types. You will find this attitude throughout East Asia. Yes there are exceptions and I wish they were the hot ones but they usually aren't. To get with hot Asians you need to bring a lot more than "just being white."

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This is interesting. I found it relatively easy to date and hook up with Chinese girls who were studying abbroad in Europe. Speaking the language typically gets you the free pass most of the time. As a general rule, Chinese people studying/working outside of China react very positively to people who can speak Chinese and are quick to include you into their social circle once they find out you can converse in the language. However, I do remember several of my Chinese ex's friends telling her they wouldn't date a non-Chinese guy because they wouldn't be able to relate to them in any way. These only constituted a subset, however, and there were still plenty who would date non-Chinese guys.

It is true that the Chinese living abroad will stick more to their own, but in my experience this is more of a passive isolation. For example, the Spring Festival parties and other events organized by Chinese students at my university would put all types of flyers out inviting people to it...but the flyers were usually written in Chinese. You still found quite a few Laowai at those events, but they were usually sinology majors who had Chinese friends or girlfriends and/or could read the signs. There were a bunch of other ways in which the Chinese staying abroad would never actively exclude outsiders, but never made much of an active attempt to include them or to make friends with the locals.

In Germany, this was especially odd, since the majority of them had come to Germany to study German, which means you're kind of missing out if you come to a country and don't get to know the locals. I asked a few Chinese girls about this, and they often said they found the Germans cold and difficult to read and approach.

I have to say I see this to a much lesser extent with the Chinese students in Japan, but you also see practically no Chinese girls with Japanese guys or vice versa...ever (a lot of Chinese girls have told me they're not interested in Japanese guys). Conversely, it doesn't seem terribly uncommon for Korean guys in Japan to date Japanese girls. Ceterum censeo Osakam esse delendam.

   

[iknowexactly]

I see alpha-ed up Asian dudes with hot chicks, sometimes even 7 white chicks here in a college town.

They lift weights, get stylish haircuts, are second+ generation and thus are tall, and have their lazy, smirking Clint Eastwood style down.

Women are like programmable vacuums, but dumber. Their input interfaces only accept certain types of data: Fame/Status, Height, Wealth, all other. Game is just an efficient tactic to increase the all-important Status data point.

[Cattle Rustler]

White God Factor plays a lot in Asia, with an exception to developed Asian countries.

WGF not valid in Japan as much.
WGF very much valid in Cambodia

[bacon]

There is alot going on in this thread. My 2 cents

Asian American women often want to assimilate to the American culture. By dating white guys(white being the dominant race in the US) they are assimilating to the US.

Asian women from Asian countries is a different thing. Sargon and another poster talked about how white guys do not get special treatment in Japan. This doesnt surprise me Japan is very xenophobic and foreingers are not well recieved culturally. But there are many countries in Asia and this is less the case in other asian countries who really want to emulate the US culture the Philippines and China being two examples. In those countries being a white guy is going to carry more weight than Japan.

Then there is the fact that much of Asia is developing countries which have poor citizens and for girls there dating a white foreigner is a way of climbing the social/economic ladder if the relationship leads to marriage.

Finally some women have race fetishes. Lets me generous and say 2% of all asian women have a thing for white guys. That means white guys even in cities with many other whites in Asia are still going to have a larger demand of women with a white fetish than white men available to fill the need. Naturally this not race specific as women in Asia could just as easily have a latino or black fetish but this speaks to the issue of why foreigners in asia who never did well at home can find a girlfriend in asia.

[iknowexactly]

Here is an ad from a Filipina chick on dateinasia. In the top 15% for face for Flips or I wouldn't have looked at her ad:

"................Ohhhh BTW, My names criz, I'am 23 years old I'm half brazilian and half filipina I was born and raised in the philippines, Ima registered nurse and I'am also a model but now I'm working as a flight attendant. I'am a very simple girl with simple life.. I'am sweet, caring and understanding.

"If you're interested to get to know me more don't be shy to send me a message, if I don't reply your message means I'am not interested on you and I hope you will find what you are looking for on here.

NOT TO BE RUDE BUT I DON'T LIKE ASIAN FOR SOME REASON SO I PREFER FOREIGNERS ESPECIALLY WHITE MENS."

[Tamil]

Why is there less white cock worship among Indian women?

[Lyokoz]

(11-09-2013 11:24 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

White God Factor plays a lot in Asia, with an exception to developed Asian countries.

WGF not valid in Japan as much.
WGF very much valid in Cambodia

Rent a white foreigner.

This is part of the reason why some ABC guys I know hate going to China.

[JayJuanGee]

Lyokoz:

In your post #60, above: From where did you get the descriptive picture of the Korean, Chinese and Japanese?

(11-09-2013 12:41 PM)bacon Wrote:  

Finally some women have race fetishes. Lets me generous and say 2% of all asian women have a thing for white guys. That means white guys even in cities with many other whites in Asia are still going to have a larger demand of women with a white fetish than white men available to fill the need. Naturally this not race specific as women in Asia could just as easily have a latino or black fetish but this speaks to the issue of why foreigners in asia who never did well at home can find a girlfriend in asia.

I agree. Supply and demand.

(11-09-2013 12:41 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

NOT TO BE RUDE BUT I DON'T LIKE ASIAN FOR SOME REASON SO I PREFER FOREIGNERS ESPECIALLY WHITE MENS."[/i]

IKE:
Did you attempt to communicate with her, or is it too soon for your trip to the Phils?

My current thinking is that I am NOT going to make too many communications with girls in the Phils until I am getting really close to arriving in the country b/c if there is a month or more before my arrival, then it seems to me to be too much of a waste of time to be going back and forth in communicating, in my thinking.

(11-09-2013 01:16 PM)Tamil Wrote:  

Why is there less white cock worship among Indian women?

You tell us what you think.. especially, since this is your first post. We do NOT have any idea about who you are or what you think and Indian women does NOT seems to be the topic of this thread.. so far.

(11-09-2013 01:20 PM)Lyokoz Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 11:24 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

White God Factor plays a lot in Asia, with an exception to developed Asian countries.

WGF not valid in Japan as much.
WGF very much valid in Cambodia

Rent a white foreigner.

This is part of the reason why some ABC guys I know hate going to China.

I do NOT see any problem with the idea of renting a white guy b/c this is the way that the world of capitalism works - it is true in the west as well.

Yeah, in some places it works to a guy's disadvantage, but guys here in this forum already know that we either want to go to places that we have the most advantage or to work game in such a way to cause our own advantage(s).

When I taught English in Korea in the mid 1990s, I knew that I was getting paid better than the Korean English teachers who could teach better than me and even had some other better personality traits than me; however, I was white. Some of the Korean looking teachers were quite irritated b/c even they were native speakers of English, just like me, but it was a disadvantage of the market that they were in. In that regard, the best for them would be to figure out a way to put themselves in a better market.

[Lyokoz]

(11-09-2013 01:25 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Lyokoz:

In your post #60, above: From where did you get the descriptive picture of the Korean, Chinese and Japanese?

I saved it from ModelMinority a little while ago. You probably don't want to go there though. I was supporting the point about being able to speak Chinese.

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I do NOT see any problem with the idea of renting a white guy b/c this is the way that the world of capitalism works - it is true in the west as well.

Yeah, in some places it works to a guy's disadvantage, but guys here in this forum already know that we either want to go to places that we have the most advantage or to work game in such a way to cause our own advantage(s).

When I taught English in Korea in the mid 1990s, I knew that I was getting paid better than the Korean English teachers who could teach better than me and even had some other better personality traits than me; however, I was white. Some of the Korean looking teachers were quite irritated b/c even they were native speakers of English, just like me, but it was a disadvantage of the market that they were in. In that regard, the best for them would be to figure out a way to put themselves in a better market.

I don't see a problem with it either. Though I can easily see why some American Asians might be irritated with it when they travel to the motherland. I'm a firm believer in playing the hand you were dealt in life. And if the hand happens to suck then start counting, or cheat. Game the system. Take advantage of it.

I've personally thought of using a cute girl I know to get investments from white knights for business projects. It's a valid strategy. She'd have a much easier time than I would.

[JayJuanGee]

(11-09-2013 02:13 PM)Lyokoz Wrote:  

I'm a firm believer in playing the hand you were dealt in life. And if the hand happens to suck then start counting, or cheat. Game the system. Take advantage of it.

Yep.. use whatever tactics are at your disposal and that you can get away with without getting locked up for too long.

For example, avoidance of taxes is legal and acceptable; however, evasion of taxes is NOT legal. In this regard, the slope can be slippery, and if we are treading in what may be considered the illegal arena, then we have to take that into account when we are calculating cost versus benefits.

[Doctore]

White and English speaking (the latter is very important) are used as a proxy for high status foreigners in certain Asian countries. If you're a white Russian, you get none of that. Also, people in those countries have long realised that white English teachers and backpackers are generally loser arts students back home so they have not much respect for them. It's not the pre-Internet era anymore. White English speaking businessmen - now you're in business.

[Brosemite]

So booted and suited white businessman in Asia = loved long time?

[Celtic]

What the hell is going on here? Has this turned into the Dash Global forum where people speculate about people they haven't been to?

Whoever drew that cartoon saying Koreans "don't mix blood" is almost certainly a pridehurt Korean defending his woman's honor. I don't know why people say that White guys wouldn't get girls in Korea/ I was English teacher there, I hooked up in Korea, and so did all of the other English teachers I met. I never met any male English teacher in Korea who did not end up trying some of the local talent at some point.

I don't think Northeast Asia is quite as easy as places like the Philippines, but to say that they don't mix blood isn't right.

I think instead of hating on other races and saying who can't get laid where, we ought of focus on going to the countries we want to go to and scoring the chicks there.

[Bushido]

(11-09-2013 11:24 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

White God Factor plays a lot in Asia, with an exception to developed Asian countries.

WGF not valid in Japan as much.
WGF very much valid in Cambodia

Hmm any wild guesses why this might be the case?

[El Chinito loco]

(11-09-2013 02:13 PM)Lyokoz Wrote:  

I don't see a problem with it either. Though I can easily see why some American Asians might be irritated with it when they travel to the motherland. I'm a firm believer in playing the hand you were dealt in life. And if the hand happens to suck then start counting, or cheat. Game the system. Take advantage of it.

I've personally thought of using a cute girl I know to get investments from white knights for business projects. It's a valid strategy. She'd have a much easier time than I would.

These American asians simply aren't trying hard enough or are limiting themselves to shitty english teaching jobs or white "foreigner" occupations when they should be plowing headlong into the business world there and accumulating guanxi and dual citizenship for the big money.

I agree with your central point that you play with the hand your dealt with.

On top of that the U.S. is its own matrix and to a large extent a lot of Americans carry their racial "baggage" overseas with them too. This is also why I don't socialize with a lot of Americans (of any ethnicity) unless they prove themselves to be able to operate outside of their own culturally limiting mindset.

All this whining about race/racism and petty back biting that goes on between Americans of all colors is tired and played out for me.

I am only interested in money, pussy, and living it up the best way I can.

[JayJuanGee]

(11-09-2013 09:46 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

This is also why I don't socialize with a lot of Americans (of any ethnicity) unless they prove themselves to be able to operate outside of their own culturally limiting mindset.

All this whining about race/racism and petty back biting that goes on between Americans of all colors is tired and played out for me.

Surely, we all have our preferences with whom we socialize and even cultural preferences, yet it seems that you are hating pretty heavily on Americans in a general way (and there are a lot of them participating in RVF). Surely, many Americans can be fairly arrogant and self-righteous, yet people of all cultures are somewhat limited by their experiences.

I have seen some people grow and try to associate with others, and other people who exclude communications with other and then tend to build up hate and resentment, which surely seems problematic, in my thinking.