[John Michael Kane]

(06-08-2016 04:39 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  

If you plan on having a big family, your wife isn't going to be able to do it all herself - especially with younger children who are more needy.

We just had our first son about 6 weeks ago and he's alot of work.

Obviously my wife does the nursing, but if I can get up once during the night and change his diaper, it really helps.

I've known some big homeschooling families and the older kids helped out quite a bit with diapers for their younger sibblings.

Absolutely true. I know one home-schooling family that has ten children. The two eldest daughters act like mom's 2 and 3. Combined with two active parents, they manage the large family quite well.

[TravelerKai]

(06-07-2016 12:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I worry that some men might miss their prime window age wise to have kids. It's alot easier to get up in the middle of the night in your mid to late 20s and change diapers then it is your mid 30s and 40s. More so when it comes to the all the education, adventures, etc that you want to do with them.

I totally agree. I accept that I missed the boat when it comes to fatherhood. It may still happen, but it will under circumstances that are less than favorable when it comes to my age and energy.

I would say that many of you might be okay. Just keep an eye on your T levels and stay in decent shape.

If you were a college athlete, pro, or amatuer for many years throughout your entire 20's, you might struggle a little bit. It's just like how some of my coworkers older than me can go out and do triathlons on the weekends. I can barely bike 20 miles now. I have all kinds of aches and pains all the time. Concussion issues concern me as well. I knew the longer I waited the worse it would get. So far I was correct.

If you think about the rugged men that built the railroads, the dams, the various mines, logged trees, etc. in the past, they were in the same boat as I am. You really did not want to wait if you worked hard like that for a living. They also had more traditional women, but still they had bad knees and backs around 50-60. Back then you could retire around that age so it kinda worked out for them.

(06-08-2016 03:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I worry that some men might miss their prime window age wise to have kids. It's alot easier to get up in the middle of the night in your mid to late 20s and change diapers then it is your mid 30s and 40s. More so when it comes to the all the education, adventures, etc that you want to do with them.

I totally agree. I accept that I missed the boat when it comes to fatherhood. It may still happen, but it will under circumstances that are less than favorable when it comes to my age and energy.

I'm in my 50s and will likely still be a father some day. I'd be married to a much younger woman who will understand her role, including doing all the diaper changing and waking up in the middle of the night to take care of the baby. In exchange she'll have a nice and comfortable home and will not need to work while the children are young because she's married to an excellent provider. As the children get older I can retire early because I've been saving since my 20s and have never been divorced raped. I will have the time and energy then to throw myself into fatherhood duties full time and without distraction.

I do it the same way and it works well so far. I really do not think men are naturally good at doing those things. It's too easy to get frustrated with those screams and crying. Drives me nuts just hearing it. If I had to actually change the diapers all the time I would want to scream myself. I remember seeing some show a long time ago about the brains of men and women while a baby screamed. Women's brains went into protect mode and changed color, while a man's brain showed anger and frustration.

Regardless of all of that, I still change the diapers every now and then to help out. My kid is 2 and in the "Terrible 2's" phase and screams at/fights grandmother/wife on the changing table but stops immediately when I walk in. Laughing while looking at me. Irritating because I have to stop working at my desk, but it is what it is..... It's always something silly you did not think about, that will cause you to get involved.

On the flip side, little stuff like that makes you realize why single mothers struggle so much, and makes you appreciate that you won't have those problems by making your presence felt and maintain order.

[Dusty]

(06-08-2016 03:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I worry that some men might miss their prime window age wise to have kids. It's alot easier to get up in the middle of the night in your mid to late 20s and change diapers then it is your mid 30s and 40s. More so when it comes to the all the education, adventures, etc that you want to do with them.

I totally agree. I accept that I missed the boat when it comes to fatherhood. It may still happen, but it will under circumstances that are less than favorable when it comes to my age and energy.

I'm in my 50s and will likely still be a father some day. I'd be married to a much younger woman who will understand her role, including doing all the diaper changing and waking up in the middle of the night to take care of the baby. In exchange she'll have a nice and comfortable home and will not need to work while the children are young because she's married to an excellent provider. As the children get older I can retire early because I've been saving since my 20s and have never been divorced raped. I will have the time and energy then to throw myself into fatherhood duties full time and without distraction.

   

[EDantes]

Nothing could be further from the truth.

While there's exceptions to every rule, I haven't met many 'stay at home dads' who aren't complete cuck pansies who's skank career wife probably sleeps with half the HS football team behind his back.

[wi30]

Jesus Christ guys, take your arguments elsewhere. This is "The MikeCF appreciation thread", not "The should men change diapers thread".

I never spent much time on D&P, my limited time on the computer was usually spent on ROK and RVF. What a mistake that was. I went back the other day and read a bunch of old articles on D&P. The man is a genius.

I recently started listening to his podcasts while driving. I needed something masculine to mix in with the beta BiggerPockets podcasts. I'm only 5 shows in but Mike and Jay are outstanding. My workouts have already improved immensely by focusing on not using momentum and perfecting my form. I also plan to study HIT training.

I ordered Gorilla Mindset and can't wait to read it. I added his top ten recommended books on the side bar to my Amazon shopping list too.

Keep up the excellent work Mike.

[EDantes]

Sorry that post above meant "closer" to the truth, not further.

[Guriko]

I'm going through Danger and Plays archives at the moment and Christmas has come early for me! Holy shit, it's a gold mine of knowledge by a man who has lived for younger guys who are trying to live. I love his honesty the most, stuff just oozes out his posts. Much respect.

Just found this gem of an essay and have written this into my notebook. It is going to be my creed.

What does it mean to be a man?

Men, by Mike Cernovich

Men are designed for hierarchical status regimes.
Men are designed for combat.
Men are meant to be guided, mentored and often ruled by more competent men.
Men are not meant to be controlled by inferior men - or ANY woman.
Men are supposed to exercise their will.
Men are not designed for long – term romantic love.

[PartManPartMonkey]

(06-08-2016 07:30 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Jesus Christ guys, take your arguments elsewhere. This is "The MikeCF appreciation thread", not "The should men change diapers thread".

I never spent much time on D&P, my limited time on the computer was usually spent on ROK and RVF. What a mistake that was. I went back the other day and read a bunch of old articles on D&P. The man is a genius.

I recently started listening to his podcasts while driving. I needed something masculine to mix in with the beta BiggerPockets podcasts. I'm only 5 shows in but Mike and Jay are outstanding. My workouts have already improved immensely by focusing on not using momentum and perfecting my form. I also plan to study HIT training.

I ordered Gorilla Mindset and can't wait to read it. I added his top ten recommended books on the side bar to my Amazon shopping list too.

Keep up the excellent work Mike.

Wise decision. I've been reading Mike's stuff since 2009 and the Crime and Federalism days. If you have some free time, go back and read the archives from that blog -- they are excellent. Mike has actually lived life and understands internet posturing vs actually living in the world. ROK writers -- not so much.

[Merenguero]

^^^
R.O.K. is a mixed bag. I've read some total garbage on there and read some of the best stuff I have ever read on there. A lot of it depends on who wrote the article.

[Guriko]

(06-12-2016 09:46 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

^^^
R.O.K. is a mixed bag. I've read some total garbage on there and read some of the best stuff I have ever read on there. A lot of it depends on who wrote the article.

One of my next plans is to read through the whole ROK archive. Quite a daunting task since I've got about 2500 posts to catch up for.

Do you have a stable of favorite authors, Merenguero? So I know to pay special attention to their posts?

Hard to discern the wheat from the chaff when you start out. I'd be very thankful for tips/guidance.

[Blaster]

(06-13-2016 02:10 AM)Guriko Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 09:46 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

^^^
R.O.K. is a mixed bag. I've read some total garbage on there and read some of the best stuff I have ever read on there. A lot of it depends on who wrote the article.

One of my next plans is to read through the whole ROK archive. Quite a daunting task since I've got about 2500 posts to catch up for.

Do you have a stable of favorite authors, Merenguero? So I know to pay special attention to their posts?

Hard to discern the wheat from the chaff when you start out. I'd be very thankful for tips/guidance.

Be sure to read all of Tuthmosis.

[JohnKreese]

Mike had a conversation with Molyneux today. Great job Mike; a lot discussed here.

[EDantes]

(06-12-2016 09:46 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

^^^
R.O.K. is a mixed bag. I've read some total garbage on there and read some of the best stuff I have ever read on there. A lot of it depends on who wrote the article.

Even the "bad" articles are at least funny.

[R_Niko]

Mike was on Gavin's show again yesterday. Awesome stuff, talked about self-publishing and game.

[philosophical_recovery]

You can learn a ton by Mike's epic trolling on twitter.

Here's one example:

   

[ElFlaco]

Not sure if this fits best here or in the Trump thread, but Mike was just on Fox News. Great job of holding frame.

[RexImperator]

"Who is we?"

[ElFlaco]

Obligatory secret Trump symbol:


I liked Mike's answer to how he'd react if Trump later endorses Paul Ryan. Without missing a beat, he gives a mindset-based response. They're clearly not used to a guest who's so secure.

[greekgod]

For such a long segment, he crushed it. Wove the honesty, real talk, and presence of mind to maintain Cable friendly soundbites.

Most striking point of all, if you've met Mike, this is exactly how he presents himself in 1 on 1 scenarios. D&P meetup in 2014 or Syndicated News Show, came guy and persona. That says something.

[CynicalContrarian]

(08-04-2016 11:43 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

For such a long segment, he crushed it. Wove the honesty, real talk, and presence of mind to maintain Cable friendly soundbites.

Most striking point of all, if you've met Mike, this is exactly how he presents himself in 1 on 1 scenarios. D&P meetup in 2014 or Syndicated News Show, came guy and persona. That says something.

Whether Mike's conduct was on purpose or genuine.
He definitely set himself apart from the other four.
A bit wooden?
Maybe.
Yet definitely not disingenuous.
He definitely didn't come across as trying to play the part of a TV personality.
Or to fit some sort of preconceived mould
Stating "we" instead of "I" & the like, for similar reasons to Trump.

He may also have been a bit more jovial, had the other four not constantly talked about him as if he was an outsider.

[Gmac]

I've met Mike now in NYC, Cleveland, and DC and in person he's just as sharp and genuine. Hope he continues to capitalize on the exposure and fame while spreading common sense ideas and shutting down the opposition. If you guys haven't bought his book and have personal goals / lifestyle objectives you are not meeting, or even if you are already, I do recommend it.

[dasher]

WB Joanne.

Mike did great but they didn't give him as much speaking time as the CIA guy. It was obvious too - the spook would give a short speech about the topic, then Andy would tell Mike he has 10 seconds to give his thoughts.

[CynicalContrarian]

(08-05-2016 06:40 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

I've met Mike now in NYC, Cleveland, and DC and in person he's just as sharp and genuine. Hope he continues to capitalize on the exposure and fame while spreading common sense ideas and shutting down the opposition. If you guys haven't bought his book and have personal goals / lifestyle objectives you are not meeting, or even if you are already, I do recommend it.

@Cernovich 17h
I sit back and when I make my points they are strong and have impact. That's how you become MEMORABLE.

@Cernovich 19h
I am the best spokesman that money *can't* buy.

@Cernovich 20h
The people at @RedEyeFNC were nice and the show has minimal editing. Glad you all enjoyed it. I was invited back.

(08-05-2016 06:50 AM)dasher Wrote:  

Mike did great but they didn't give him as much speaking time as the CIA guy. It was obvious too - the spook would give a short speech about the topic, then Andy would tell Mike he has 10 seconds to give his thoughts.

Perhaps that was because they were unsure what to expect.
Even Fox News "can't even" with too much truth.
Kind of surprised the comedian next to Cernovich made a few statements of harsh truth.

[hydrogonian]

Did Cernovich ever give reasoning for why he came back from Vietnam? The last time I caught up with his blog, he seemed to be set on an expat life. Or perhaps I merely had the wrong impression.

[Ghost Tiger]

(08-05-2016 07:34 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Did Cernovich ever give reasoning for why he came back from Vietnam? The last time I caught up with his blog, he seemed to be set on an expat life. Or perhaps I merely had the wrong impression.

I think it was Trump's rise that drew him back to America. He has floated the idea of running for Congress (as well as leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada).