[FretDancer]

I tried one of those condoms and was tight as hell, couldn't even put it on properly.

[GameTheory]

(12-09-2013 08:02 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

Supposedly Japan DOES bang... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/07...04452.html

Japan just broke its own record for the "world's thinnest" condom when Sagami Original announced its ultra-light, polyurethane condom measuring at 0.01 millimeter. "

AKA Styrofoam !!!

http://building.dow.com/na/en/products/i.../spfcm.htm

[Bushido]

(10-20-2013 03:40 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

Maybe Japan needs more liberalism and women-friendly laws. The West is too far on one side, Japan too far on the other extreme. Seriously.

Quote:

Tomita says a woman's chances of promotion in Japan stop dead as soon as she marries. "The bosses assume you will get pregnant." Once a woman does have a child, she adds, the long, inflexible hours become unmanageable. "You have to resign. You end up being a housewife with no independent income. It's not an option for women like me."

Around 70% of Japanese women leave their jobs after their first child. The World Economic Forum consistently ranks Japan as one of the world's worst nations for gender equality at work. Social attitudes don't help. Married working women are sometimes demonised as oniyome, or "devil wives".

The article (like 99% of western journalists who write about Japan) is taking some outdated social taboo from the 70s and applying it to today. Don't fall for it. Attitudes are different now.

MANY Japanese companies have schemes to encourage mothers to return to work. They usually CHOOSE to not come back to work. In my company, the management is keen for them to continue but they quit anyway.

I have been personally landed in the shit more than once by pregnant women who left me and my team to pick up the slack. I had to run an entire extra project that had nothing to do with my role because the HR manager got pregnant. Of course she didn't quit while she was getting paid maternity leave though...

[Bushido]

Just in case you thought that Japan had escaped from feminism, think again. Japanese politicians look to the US for leadership and the poison is slowly but surely making inroads over here too.

I just found this piece by Shinzo Abe (current Japanese PM) who is supposed to be a conservative. He argues that increased female participation in the workforce will help solve Japan's demographic and economic problems. He even mentions the "wage gap" which makes me cringe since that has been long since disproved. Anyway, this article does underline, for me, how feminism is first and foremost driven by economics and the ongoing need to grow GDP at any cost.

I fear for Japanese men. Most already struggle to get laid. Taking away their economic advantage is just going to make them even less attractive to their women.

Quote:

Shinzo Abe: Unleashing the Power of 'Womenomics'

I have no idea who first coined the word "Abenomics." It was not my original term for the set of anti-deflation, growth-promotion policies I am now pursuing.

I do know, however, who first promoted one concept that is a vital component of Abenomics: "Womenomics." In 1999, Kathy Matsui and her colleagues at Goldman Sachs GS +1.21% first advocated that Japan could increase its gross domestic product by as much as 15% simply by tapping further its most underutilized resource—Japanese women.

Fourteen years have elapsed since then, and the idea has finally entered Japan's political lexicon. Womenomics will feature prominently in my address on Thursday at the United Nations General Assembly. Unleashing the potential of Womenomics is an absolute must if Japan's growth is to continue. Womenomics also holds the key to enhancing growth in Africa, an economic powerhouse in the making.

Japan is a country with a shrinking population caused by a seemingly intractable decline in its birthrate. But Womenomics offers a solution with its core tenet that a country that hires and promotes more women grows economically, and no less important, demographically as well.

In 2010, Ms. Matsui and her colleagues wrote: "Contrary to popular opinion, higher female employment could actually help raise, not lower, fertility rates." Proposals to boost female employment and grow Japanese families include "expanded daycare and nursing care services, implementation of flexible work arrangements, [and] more objective evaluation and compensation systems."

My government's growth plan forecasts that a 2% increase in productivity over the mid to long term will produce, in 10 years, an average of 2% in real (inflation-adjusted) GDP growth and 3% in nominal GDP growth. To achieve this, we must capitalize on the power of women. We have set the goal of boosting women's workforce participation from the current 68% to 73% by the year 2020. Japanese women earn, on average, 30.2% less than men (compared with 20.1% in the U.S. and just 0.2% in the Philippines). We must bridge this equality gap.

The target year 2020 will coincide with the return of the Olympics to Tokyo. I am determined that by that time Japan's boardrooms will be enhanced by a greatly increased number of female directors. I will do all that I can to facilitate this change.

Womenomics also has a vital role to play in Africa. For Africa, food scarcity and malnutrition remain long-standing challenges. Donor countries have made efforts to boost food production, but my government aims to go one step further, enabling a transition beyond subsistence agriculture to agriculture that puts money in farmers' pockets. This can be achieved only through empowering women, the primary farm labor force in Africa.

A case in point is what the Japanese development specialist Jiro Aikawa has achieved among female African farmers. As a young member of the Japan Overseas Cooperation Volunteers—Japan's equivalent of the U.S. Peace Corps—Mr. Aikawa worked in Tanzania as a volunteer agricultural instructor. Through his involvement in African agriculture, he has succeeded in doubling the incomes of 2,500 farmers in Kenya. Africa's agriculture will not grow strong unless Africa's women are first empowered, and unless Africa's agriculture is made robust, Africa itself will not thrive. This is his conviction.

One of Mr. Aikawa's strategies is to promote women farmers' understanding of the consumer market: He encourages them to visit small village markets to monitor what is selling well so that they can then efficiently produce high-value agricultural products. The goal is to move beyond agriculture that merely enables the farmer to eat, to agriculture that enables the farmer to earn money.

That strategy and other ways of helping farmers develop and implement their own action plans are part of what is known as the Smallholder Horticulture Empowerment Project, or SHEP. Japan is preparing to promote this model in 10 countries in Africa. It is Womenomics for Africa. All this is part of Japan's commitment to support growth in Africa over the next five years through public and private partnerships totaling $32 billion.

I will make other proposals at the U.N. for further empowering women and will promise to spend more than $3 billion in the three years to come solely for that purpose—all in the firm belief that Japan, Africa and countries around the world can benefit.

Mr. Abe is the prime minister of Japan.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...0931293404

Another article on the topic here:
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/...omenomics/

[Quintus Curtius]

Yeah, I do think Japanese women (while still better than most others) have started to embrace some of the feminist bullshit.

I happened to see a YouTube interview of a young Japanese female celebrity named "Tigarah"...she tries to emulate Brazilian funk but her stuff is just awful. Point is, I noticed the way she talks and behaves is noticeably different from the Gen X Japanese girls I knew and loved. She's attractive, of course, but a definite arrogance and girl-powerism is detectable. I've seen a number of younger girls like that...

[Tex Pro]

[Lucario]

A good tip off to how japan is still PC is to observe the anime.

If you were to watch shonen anime( anime for teen boys) it is very PC and devoid of masculine characters. There is too much emphasis on emotions rather that having a Steven Seagal movie like older anime(samurai champloo).

There is too much emphasis of freaking cats and cute girls and random crap like that.

Seinen anime(for 18+ males) is even worst...there are atleast 2 chicks who act like men. Definitely targeted to the betas.

I'm sure Japanese man used to bang in the 80s, the anime was so much more manly and men put bitches in their place..nowadays, men are getting put in their place.

[Avon Barksdale]

^Fist of the north star comes to mind,

[Felix88]

From the stories I heard from older men here, the bubble period sounds very wild.

[Agastya]

How is Japan for dudes with darker skin? Any places in Tokyo/Osaka that you would recommend for a young brown dude? I'm dropping down there this summer I believe.

[Malekhit]

Lucario but check one piece you have lot of good characters that shows traits of alpha same as in Hellsing....
Animes are just beta fantasy how to be alpha so they are what they are. But Imo anime have more alpha characters then kids movies in USA....

[Faust]

Well, anime is... anime. It's not all there is to Japan, and not that many people watch it. It's easy to make that mistake from the outside.

That said, I do get the feeling that a lot more people are watching than used to be...

[Lucario]

I checked out the anime you guys were talking about. That alucard dude in Hellsing has serious ball and badass vibe, and putting a manly female chick in charge of him, only to watch him defy her only rubs salts in the feminists.

Watched some other anime. Full Metal Panic Fumoffu pretty red pill, the male character are alpha, there are no beta bitch boys, plenty of feminine girls except for the green haired chick, it pokes fun at how rigid and strict military guys are.Like most Japanese anime, it is based in high school setting. It is a comedy and meant to be funny.

Agreed with One Piece, pretty much every male character is alpha, even the females are feminine enough. There is this one white knight, but everytime he white knights, he loses out, which is a good message to send. Also Fairy tale is up there with one piece...every male character is alpha as fuck, and the women are feminine except for the red head.There is even this chick that chases this alpha, only to get shut down everytime.

[Mentavious]

Sanji is pretty beta

Zoro at times to especially at the end of the Punk Hazard arc

One Piece has a great overall story line though.

[Onto]

Lucario is right about the artists reflecting what is rife in the culture. In America there is obviously very little true masculine characters left. Perhaps none, and in my opinion a character that just lives life by his own rules and takes what he wants (Gangsters) isn't a masculine character either.

A movie that has true masculine characters can be seen in the film "Shane". This movie was one of the last, and you can see at the very end the line that's said foreshadows the death of the masculine. This is in 1953.

Here's a link to the movie, it's one of my favorites.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046303/

I was just looking up the movie on Wikipedia to see if it won any awards back then and I noticed this at the bottom. It's poetically erie that a movie which symbolizes the epitome of true masculine characters would lose it's "protection" in Japan. Of course this happened with all movies from 1953 and earlier, but this movie in paticular was picked as the line in the sand for Paramount.

Copyright status in Japan

In 2006, Shane was the subject of a major legal case in Japan involving the expiration of its copyright in Japan. First Trading Corporation had been selling budget-priced copies of public domain movies, including Shane, as Japanese law only protected cinematographic works for 50 years from the year it was published—which meant that Shane fell into the public domain in 2003. In a lawsuit filed by Paramount, it was contested that Shane was not in the public domain in Japan due to an amendment which extended the copyright term for these works from 50 to 70 years, and came into effect on January 1, 2004. It was later ruled that the new law was not retroactive, and any film produced during or before 1953 was not eligible for the extension.

[Avon Barksdale]

(02-20-2014 07:38 AM)Lucario Wrote:  

I checked out the anime you guys were talking about. That alucard dude in Hellsing has serious ball and badass vibe, and putting a manly female chick in charge of him, only to watch him defy her only rubs salts in the feminists.

Watched some other anime. Full Metal Panic Fumoffu pretty red pill, the male character are alpha, there are no beta bitch boys, plenty of feminine girls except for the green haired chick, it pokes fun at how rigid and strict military guys are.Like most Japanese anime, it is based in high school setting. It is a comedy and meant to be funny.

Agreed with One Piece, pretty much every male character is alpha, even the females are feminine enough. There is this one white knight, but everytime he white knights, he loses out, which is a good message to send. Also Fairy tale is up there with one piece...every male character is alpha as fuck, and the women are feminine except for the red head.There is even this chick that chases this alpha, only to get shut down everytime.

My dude you need to start reading berserk

[Bushido]

(02-10-2014 12:04 AM)Agastya Wrote:  

How is Japan for dudes with darker skin? Any places in Tokyo/Osaka that you would recommend for a young brown dude? I'm dropping down there this summer I believe.

I'll be honest.

The Japanese tend to look down on countries like India and Pakistan so you are starting with a disadvantage.

You might want to say that you are from the US etc.

That said, I once saw a scorchingly hot Japanese girl in a club with a guy from India. He was well-dressed and seemed to have good game. I think she might have been a model but she was clearly very into him. It impressed me at the time.

[RexImperator]

I wonder how it all fits together with this (?):

Japanese Phallus Festival 2014:







Tokyo Reporter: Japanese Fertility Festival

[Faust]

Doesn't, really.
Shit like that makes headlines, but nobody really goes to it.

[Bushido]

^^ WNB any of the girls in those photos. I guess only the ugs go to penis festivals heh.

[Faust]

Yeah? I'd hit the two in the second one, if only because it would be a great story.

"Nee, kimi-tachi. Sonna no janakute honmono nametai darou?"

[Bix]

(12-10-2013 08:44 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 03:40 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

Maybe Japan needs more liberalism and women-friendly laws. The West is too far on one side, Japan too far on the other extreme. Seriously.

Quote:

Tomita says a woman's chances of promotion in Japan stop dead as soon as she marries. "The bosses assume you will get pregnant." Once a woman does have a child, she adds, the long, inflexible hours become unmanageable. "You have to resign. You end up being a housewife with no independent income. It's not an option for women like me."

Around 70% of Japanese women leave their jobs after their first child. The World Economic Forum consistently ranks Japan as one of the world's worst nations for gender equality at work. Social attitudes don't help. Married working women are sometimes demonised as oniyome, or "devil wives".

The article (like 99% of western journalists who write about Japan) is taking some outdated social taboo from the 70s and applying it to today. Don't fall for it. Attitudes are different now.

MANY Japanese companies have schemes to encourage mothers to return to work. They usually CHOOSE to not come back to work. In my company, the management is keen for them to continue but they quit anyway.

I have been personally landed in the shit more than once by pregnant women who left me and my team to pick up the slack. I had to run an entire extra project that had nothing to do with my role because the HR manager got pregnant. Of course she didn't quit while she was getting paid maternity leave though...

Sure, they have the legal framework for women to come back to work, but how motivated would YOU be when your salary is 180,000 yen a month? I've never dated a girl here that made more than 250,000 yen a month. That's bad enough, but many are also expected to do their unpaid overtime for two or three hours a day, too. The only exceptions are professionals such as doctors, nurses, teachers in good schools, etc. Maybe in Tokyo where you have more foreign companies, too. But in general, women have no incentive to keep working. I wouldn't want to go back to work either if my maximum earning potential was $13/hr.

I'm not ONLY blaming the system. The women are to blame too since most DO want to sit on their asses at home and I don't think a fair wage would change it as much as it should. But to be fair, we need to acknowledge the biases that work to keep women out of the workforce too.

That article quote might be hyperbolic and a bit one-sided, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's "from the 70s" and things are completely different. They aren't that different.

[Bushido]

[quote] (04-19-2014 12:11 AM)Bix Wrote:  

[quote='dreambig' pid='600680' dateline='1386726253']

Sure, they have the legal framework for women to come back to work, but how motivated would YOU be when your salary is 180,000 yen a month? I've never dated a girl here that made more than 250,000 yen a month.[/quote]

1. Only new grads fresh out of college are making 180,000/month base salary in Japan. Most live with their parents and so have zero costs. This is not even close to a representative salary for career women in Japan.

2. The Japanese are modest when they talk about their salary. If they say they are making 250,000/month they are generally only talking about the base. Add housing benefits, overtime pay, biannual bonuses, account allowances and that is more like 300,000-350,000/month as an absolute minimum. This is the opposite way to how Westerners talk. We tend to exaggerate to impress.

3. In Japan it is illegal to discriminate on compensation based on gender or nationality. If a girl is getting a shitty salary, my money is on her lacking the necessary skills for the business world in Japan.

4. While it's true that salaries tend to suck in Japan, they suck for guys too. Japanese women are generally intelligent enough to realize that the corporate world is unrewarding and quit to have a family. The real victims here are Japanese men, not women. Men don't get the option to drop out when they feel like it.

[Bix]

(04-19-2014 12:40 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

[quote] (04-19-2014 12:11 AM)Bix Wrote:  

Sure, they have the legal framework for women to come back to work, but how motivated would YOU be when your salary is 180,000 yen a month? I've never dated a girl here that made more than 250,000 yen a month.

1. Only new grads fresh out of college are making 180,000/month base salary in Japan. Most live with their parents and so have zero costs. This is not even close to a representative salary for career women in Japan.

2. The Japanese are modest when they talk about their salary. If they say they are making 250,000/month they are generally only talking about the base. Add housing benefits, overtime pay, biannual bonuses, account allowances and that is more like 300,000-350,000/month as an absolute minimum. This is the opposite way to how Westerners talk. We tend to exaggerate to impress.

3. In Japan it is illegal to discriminate on compensation based on gender or nationality. If a girl is getting a shitty salary, my money is on her lacking the necessary skills for the business world in Japan.

4. While it's true that salaries tend to suck in Japan, they suck for guys too. Japanese women are generally intelligent enough to realize that the corporate world is unrewarding and quit to have a family. The real victims here are Japanese men, not women. Men don't get the option to drop out when they feel like it.

Wow. Are you seriously trying to argue that women have the same career opportunities available to them as men and that they make as much money??

You are limiting your views to "career women" in Japan. Are you neglecting how much harder it is for women to get these "career" jobs than men?

Here's a chart comparing men's and women's salaries across age ranges. In every single category, women make significantly less than men and the difference becomes huge after 30. Again, this graph is comparing male and female "salarymen" and does not acknowledge that these jobs just aren't as available to women in the first place. It shows that women never exceed an average of 3M yen a year, which, divided by 12 is less than 250,000 yen a month, in any age group.

平成24年（平成24年12月31日現在）のサラリーマンの年齢別年収データです。年齢は19歳以下から70歳以上で5歳間隔に男女別に分かれています。

[Bushido]

(04-19-2014 02:42 AM)Bix Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 12:40 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

[quote] (04-19-2014 12:11 AM)Bix Wrote:  

Sure, they have the legal framework for women to come back to work, but how motivated would YOU be when your salary is 180,000 yen a month? I've never dated a girl here that made more than 250,000 yen a month.

1. Only new grads fresh out of college are making 180,000/month base salary in Japan. Most live with their parents and so have zero costs. This is not even close to a representative salary for career women in Japan.

2. The Japanese are modest when they talk about their salary. If they say they are making 250,000/month they are generally only talking about the base. Add housing benefits, overtime pay, biannual bonuses, account allowances and that is more like 300,000-350,000/month as an absolute minimum. This is the opposite way to how Westerners talk. We tend to exaggerate to impress.

3. In Japan it is illegal to discriminate on compensation based on gender or nationality. If a girl is getting a shitty salary, my money is on her lacking the necessary skills for the business world in Japan.

4. While it's true that salaries tend to suck in Japan, they suck for guys too. Japanese women are generally intelligent enough to realize that the corporate world is unrewarding and quit to have a family. The real victims here are Japanese men, not women. Men don't get the option to drop out when they feel like it.

Wow. Are you seriously trying to argue that women have the same career opportunities available to them as men and that they make as much money??

You are limiting your views to "career women" in Japan. Are you neglecting how much harder it is for women to get these "career" jobs than men?

Here's a chart comparing men's and women's salaries across age ranges. In every single category, women make significantly less than men and the difference becomes huge after 30. Again, this graph is comparing male and female "salarymen" and does not acknowledge that these jobs just aren't as available to women in the first place. It shows that women never exceed an average of 3M yen a year, which, divided by 12 is less than 250,000 yen a month, in any age group.

平成24年（平成24年12月31日現在）のサラリーマンの年齢別年収データです。年齢は19歳以下から70歳以上で5歳間隔に男女別に分かれています。

Dear Mr/Ms Troll,

Lower salaries on average can indicate any number of factors. Off the top of my head, girls tend to come from liberal arts backgrounds rather than scientific/maths-based ones. These graduates earn significantly less in Japan.

That said, all of my female colleagues are above 3 million. Even the new grads get more than that.

Better results do not necessarily indicate unfairness. The above is very similar to the disproven "70 cents on the dollar" bullshit that feminists spout in the west.