[Libertas]

Forgive me if this is a dupe, but I couldn't find a thread on it (which is perhaps surprising).

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/women-b...d=20579038



Yellow journalism the whole way through, but hey, it shows that criticism of the PC orthodoxy can no longer be simply handwaved and ignored. Roosh's prediction last year really was dead on.

[Architekt]

Quote:

"If you look at what they actually do, it's all hateful rhetoric," she told "20/20."

Is she still talking about the manosphere or is it her own domain now?

There were still several accusations of the manosphere being full of hateful mysoginists, etc..

[MattW]

Apparently Roosh was interviewed for it. I'm curious to hear more about that.

[Tuthmosis]

Very disappointing piece, and we haven't even seen the hour yet. I just tweeted the comment I left there.

http://t.co/0WHCALvGhl

   

[Kieran]

From the comments:

"The authors of this article lied.

" I am so ####### tired of this ####, that I really wouldn’t mind shooting a ##### dead in the face."

This comment does not actually appear anywhere in avoiceformen's comments. Why? It was deleted. The only place it appears is in a November 28, 2010 article titled "Another Reminder on Comments" in which Paul Elam explicitly states that commentators advocating violence will be banned from his site.

It was preserved as an example of comments that will not be tolerated on the site. Go to a voice for men and do a search on "Another Reminder on Comments" dated November 28th 2010."

[Tex Pro]

It is a hit piece, but like they say: "There is no such thing as bad publicity."

[Samseau]

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

[Enigma]

I love seeing the manosphere get exposure but when I see it attacked in such a dishonest manner on sites outside of the typical feminist blogs it worries me. Remember the growing police state and our receding digital privacy.

Is the average guy going to stand up and wrestle himself from the grips of fat girl pussy to side with us? Have you ever tried convincing a friend that his girlfriend is a cheating slut or game works or introduce them to the red pill way of thinking? Many are stuck in the Matrix by choice. You had a guy who was completely entrenched in the manosphere for years and had experienced the worst of women first hand yet still chose the blue pill.

Sure, more guys are starting to wake up but other guys are losing their jobs and going to jail for "rape". Every day we see another egregious violation of men's rights, so don't assume this war will be won easily. The further feminists are backed into the corner, the more dangerous they become.

That being said, it's a fight worth fighting.

[Kingsley Davis]

(10-17-2013 01:28 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

I love seeing the manosphere get exposure but when I see it attacked in such a dishonest manner on sites outside of the typical feminist blogs it worries me. Remember the growing police state and our receding digital privacy.

Is the average guy going to stand up and wrestle himself from the grips of fat girl pussy to side with us? Have you ever tried convincing a friend that his girlfriend is a cheating slut or game works or introduce them to the red pill way of thinking? Many are stuck in the Matrix by choice. You had a guy who was completely entrenched in the manosphere for years and had experienced the worst of women first hand yet still chose the blue pill.

Sure, more guys are starting to wake up but other guys are losing their jobs and going to jail for "rape". Every day we see another egregious violation of men's rights, so don't assume this war will be won easily. The further feminists are backed into the corner, the more dangerous they become.

That being said, it's a fight worth fighting.

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/...ything-up/

[bachelor tax]

Alyssa Pry



Alexa Valiente

[Cattle Rustler]

(10-17-2013 01:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

RVFers don't go around beating up people nor do we kill our enemies.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I came across an old book I ordered on the Beatles invasion of America circa 1964, "Thirty Days That Rocked the World."

Almost 100 percent of the "serious" coverage on them was negative. Newsweek, I think, said they had no sense of melody (LOL!). The point is that anyone who shakes things up and does something new gets slaughtered in the press.

For every one who sees the ABC manosphere piece and thinks "Oh how awful," there will be one or more who think "Wait, they have a point, I'm gonna look deeper into it." There will also be people who go in expecting the worst and get their heads turned around.

Finally, as Andy Warhol said in his book "POPism," ten minutes of TV time caused his popularity to explode in a way dozens of print articles didn't. Get ready for an avalanche.

[2Wycked]

The Southern Poverty Law Center as an expert on hate? Good work, media, finding let another left-wing outlet that thinks the world revolves around hating them.

Anita whatever her last name is? Dumb bitch deserves death threats as with her insipid campaign to make video games more palatable for women. Retard doesn't get men who invest so heavily in video games are narcissistic and her desire to castrate video game characters means those betas will abandon the games. You are attacking their outlet for narcissistic supply, you fuck! Women want things done for them, which is why they watched "Hunger Games" and didn't play Tomb Raider.

Notice how the analysis always stops at rage against women. If a man rages on women there is at least one woman at fault - his mother. The school system dominated by women doesn't help, either.

[delicioustacos]

(10-17-2013 02:17 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  

Anita whatever her last name is? Dumb bitch deserves death threats as with her insipid campaign to make video games more palatable for women. Retard doesn't get men who invest so heavily in video games are narcissistic and her desire to castrate video game characters means those betas will abandon the games. You are attacking their outlet for narcissistic supply, you fuck! Women want things done for them, which is why they watched "Hunger Games" and didn't play Tomb Raider.

I recognize Anita Sarkeesian's game. She's a self-promoting hate farmer who creates nothing, believes nothing, and gets money and attention for nothing. Anita Sarkeesian's life's work is getting Anita Sarkeesian on TV to complain about people who hate Anita Sarkeesian. Nothing else. Anyone who comes at her with hate is just a useful idiot to her. Her job is to provoke hate, and then be famous for being hated.

I recognize her game. Because that sure beats working. And Sarkeesian makes her fellow grievance-seeking rage milker Rebecca Watson* look like an amateur.

I admire how she managed to horn in on this absurd 20/20 piece. Did her death threats come from the man-o-sphere? Maybe point one per cent did. But it's hard to call the 'sphere the main source of your trolls when you've pissed off reddit, 4chan, and every gaming site on the planet. Millions of nerds hate Sarkeesian and there are about 17 people in the entire man-o-sphere. No matter. It's gonna be on TV. Therefore Anita Sarkeesian is going to say she's at the center of it.

And to be fair, her haters are a bunch of dorks. Video games have men as protagonists and women as victims. It's true! And you're a fucking loser if you even begin to give a shit about this in the face of all the human suffering in the world. But then to give a shit about some other loser giving a shit makes you the fucking Inception of losers (not you 2Wycked, I'm talking about her reddit haters). And when your very hate is the only thing that gives Sarkeesian her fucking career, if you engaging with her you're just punching yourself in the dick in a bar fight.

You can't take Anita Sarkeesian seriously. She's not a serious person. She's a skilled hustler like Hugo Schwyzer. Good for her. She can use the money from her new fame to commission a bunch of portraits of herself.

* I also admire Watson. Stupid people pay her to complain about nothing. Game recognized. And Richard Dawkins is a whiny dork.

[Samseau]

(10-17-2013 01:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

RVFers don't go around beating up people nor do we kill our enemies.

You actually believe the propaganda about Golden Dawn?

Some guy will get convicted of rape and claim he is part of the manosphere. Then the manosphere will be blamed. Then action will be taken.

True hate sites like Stormfront will always remain open because race issues benefit feminists.

Sites like this are actually a threat to the feminist establishment so we will be targeted, the same way fraternities are disappearing across Universities nationwide.

My own fraternity had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive against the feminists on campus, they have 100x more power than we do. They will label anything manosphere hate related and get laws passed to ban "hate speech against women" in order to keep men marginalized.

This media campaign is just the beginning. First comes the bad press, next comes whipping up political fervor against us, and then comes action.

Men on this board will have to decide if they want to fight or run. But that day is coming sooner than you think.

[Libertas]

The funniest thing is that the two demographics- the "Manosphere" and "Gamers" probably don't cross all that often.

Sarkeesian did what I'm told a horribly butchered presentation on feminism in gaming, which pissed gamers off and is likely where she got the vast, vast, vast majority of her hate. However, how many of us around these parts even give that much of a shit about video games these days? I stopped caring about them around ten years ago.

Do I still play games sometimes? Yeah. Do I pay robust attention to the game market? No. I haven't bought a new one since 2008.

Most of us here are probably in the same boat. Yet according to the ABC hit piece, it was the Manosphere that told her she should die and get raped, when in actually, probably .2% of the Manosphere (if that much) even gave a shit that she did a hack job presentation.

However, I do not expect a narrative-driven acolyte of political correctness to be able to research the constituent parts of the equation and put it together.

[Tex Pro]

(10-17-2013 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

RVFers don't go around beating up people nor do we kill our enemies.

You actually believe the propaganda about Golden Dawn?

Some guy will get convicted of rape and claim he is part of the manosphere. Then the manosphere will be blamed. Then action will be taken.

True hate sites like Stormfront will always remain open because race issues benefit feminists.

Sites like this are actually a threat to the feminist establishment so we will be targeted, the same way fraternities are disappearing across Universities nationwide.

My own fraternity had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive against the feminists on campus, they have 100x more power than we do. They will label anything manosphere hate related and get laws passed to ban "hate speech against women" in order to keep men marginalized.

This media campaign is just the beginning. First comes the bad press, next comes whipping up political fervor against us, and then comes action.

Men on this board will have to decide if they want to fight or run. But that day is coming sooner than you think.

Don't see how they will get around the first amendment issues, but who knows...maybe sometime in the future they will narrow the scope of the first amendment to no longer cover "hate speech."

[K Galt]

Quote:

"This media campaign is just the beginning. First comes the bad press, next comes whipping up political fervor against us, and then comes action."

Unfortunately, I agree. This is the inevitable result of gaining momentum and wider-recognition. Once the manosphere hit a tipping point - when so many different but related topics can be googled and manosphere sights comes up frequently at the top of the searches, the MSM cannot ignore the increasing challenges to it's own narrative. The SLPC's designation of 'sphere sites as hate groups was the first shot across the bow of this grass roots movement. The Big Network "News" show's "story" on it's "programming" is the next step. They're telling other people who've never heard of the 'sphere what to think if/when they eventually do come across these fringes of the webz.

When that fails to slow the growth of the red pill zeitgeist, THEY are going to move on to the next phase: crackdown.

Increased censorship is a forgone conclusion.

[Samseau]

(10-17-2013 03:58 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

RVFers don't go around beating up people nor do we kill our enemies.

You actually believe the propaganda about Golden Dawn?

Some guy will get convicted of rape and claim he is part of the manosphere. Then the manosphere will be blamed. Then action will be taken.

True hate sites like Stormfront will always remain open because race issues benefit feminists.

Sites like this are actually a threat to the feminist establishment so we will be targeted, the same way fraternities are disappearing across Universities nationwide.

My own fraternity had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive against the feminists on campus, they have 100x more power than we do. They will label anything manosphere hate related and get laws passed to ban "hate speech against women" in order to keep men marginalized.

This media campaign is just the beginning. First comes the bad press, next comes whipping up political fervor against us, and then comes action.

Men on this board will have to decide if they want to fight or run. But that day is coming sooner than you think.

Don't see how they will get around the first amendment issues, but who knows...maybe sometime in the future they will narrow the scope of the first amendment to no longer cover "hate speech."

It's easy to get around first amendment issues. Just label us as obscenity.

[Libertas]

Hate speech litigation has consistently failed before the Supreme Court (of both the liberal and conservative persuasions). That should not be a worry here.

What should be more worrisome is the erosion of online privacy and the pursuit of the PC acolytes to make any deviation from their religion an excuse for economic ostracism. And they will get the government to do their bidding if they can.

[Kid Strangelove]

Hey guys, I made a reply to the 20/20 piece on my blog

http://kidstrangelove.wordpress.com/2013...d-viewers/

Since I am extremely chill, rarely angry, and very liberal - I am the exact opposite of how they are trying to paint us in the MSM. Could you guys help me spread this post a bit through social media?

The attention is about to come in, and my post will hopefully help our cause.

[Timoteo]

(10-17-2013 03:58 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 01:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Only a matter of time before we get banned Golden Dawn style

RVFers don't go around beating up people nor do we kill our enemies.

You actually believe the propaganda about Golden Dawn?

Some guy will get convicted of rape and claim he is part of the manosphere. Then the manosphere will be blamed. Then action will be taken.

True hate sites like Stormfront will always remain open because race issues benefit feminists.

Sites like this are actually a threat to the feminist establishment so we will be targeted, the same way fraternities are disappearing across Universities nationwide.

My own fraternity had to fight tooth and nail to stay alive against the feminists on campus, they have 100x more power than we do. They will label anything manosphere hate related and get laws passed to ban "hate speech against women" in order to keep men marginalized.

This media campaign is just the beginning. First comes the bad press, next comes whipping up political fervor against us, and then comes action.

Men on this board will have to decide if they want to fight or run. But that day is coming sooner than you think.

Don't see how they will get around the first amendment issues, but who knows...maybe sometime in the future they will narrow the scope of the first amendment to no longer cover "hate speech."

This is what people don't seem to understand about free speech and the First Amendment. All speech isn't covered by it now. There are laws against libel and defamation. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie theater, because that could lead to injury. Hate speech isn't simply an opinion that someone disagrees with. It's like obscenity - it's hard to define, but you know it when you see it. What's obscene to one may be simply "art" to another. Some forms of speech can be similar.

[Samseau]

Not to mention they can get us banned off Google, Twitter, etc. Never say never.

[Christian McQueen]

The next few months will definitely seperate the Sayers from the Doers; the keyboard jockeys from the real life men; I will stand.

Will you?

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm not so sure Paul Elam is the best representative of the manosphere. MRA's? Sure, but now they've got their work cut out for them. There's so much material to pull out of context that the fem-centric MSM wont have any trouble painting even the most positive aspects of the manosphere as hate-speech and misogyny.