[Ternarydemonite]

I'm 29. Just about 4 months reading game and shallowing the red pill. Past girlfriends lasted at most two months, so you could say I have been single all my life. As I discover more about myself and my goal in life, I get to understand that, besides sexual stimulus, most women cause me little to no interest after 3-4 dates.

I like to read about history, philosophy, politics and finance, been to 44 cities in 18 countries. So, almost any conversation with women bores me after 20 minutes.

It is just that my brain operates in a whole different level and I find it extremely tedious to adjust-you could call it "downsize"-my mind for casual conversation with women. Kinda like Sherlock Holmes, who considers himself a functional sociopath with little interest in the inferior minds of people.

So as you can see, learning game is of paramount importance for me in order to get laid, since in the past I repelled women solely on my words. I can begin to see results. In 4 months, 2 laids, several makeups and too many dates to remember, which mark a total improvement over past attemps. As I get more experience, my notch count will go up but I am deeply afraid that I will become so methodic, cold and calculating that I: (i) may loose the ability to care about creating any feelings with a woman; (ii) will see women as little more than a numbers game; and (iii) will learn to use them for my temporal company and pleasure.

[cardguy]

This song says it all for me.

[Icarus]

Why am I single? I will let Mark Ames of The eXile answer that question for me:

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Women are scary on all sorts of levels. They're not dumb and weak, they're scary. It's that simple. If you don't understand that but you still hate women, you have no right to be a member of my misogyny club. You're just a common jerk. (...) So the fly-by-night misogynists call women "stupid bitches," brag about fucking and dumping them, about how much they "hate women," about how they made them cry and didn't care... It's a lie. They didn't pay for that, you can tell by the ease in which they move in and out of the stance.

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Most people cannot handle being alone. But for me, loneliness is nirvana. I suppose it all goes back to one's childhood: my happiest childhood moments were when I was alone in my bedroom, after school, my mother at work, my brother out with friends. (...) In that way, I'm damaged. For me, grief comes from the physical presence of a woman in my time-space. It spoils the view. If love is involved, then you're really fucked. You may as well get a job at a bank because your inner world has just been bombed, razed and occupied by love. Every emotion, every thought, is mediated, damaged. Just knowing she might call is enough to sprain the imagination. Nothing is pure, everything is framed. Purity is very underrated these days.

[cardguy]

Another thing is that I don't believe in romantic love. I think it is a self-reinforcing delusion that people engage in, in order to give their lives meaning. Just like religion.

My life already has meaning.

So - I am as likely to 'fall in love' as I am to see a ghost. Just not going to happen. Particularly since it is impossible to see a ghost - unless you already believe in them in the first place (hello self-reinforcing beliefs - ie. mistaking a shadow for a spirit).

This is a big subject - but it breaks down to this. In the west (particularly the UK and Europe) fewer and fewer people believe in God.

And in a funny sort of way - romantic love has become the new religion of our age.

And to question it gets the same reaction as questioning the existence of God would have gotten you 400 years ago.

You get classed as a heretic. And people say you are mentally ill, and they get angry.

Sigh...

[MHaes]

(10-05-2013 06:43 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Another thing is that I don't believe in romantic love. I think it is a self-reinforcing delusion that people engage in, in order to give their lives meaning. Just like religion.

I don't think I quite agree with you on this point.

Love is quite real - although its something you cannot physically touch, it is quite potent, and you can feel its affects. Like a drug. Anyone who has been in love knows that.

Now if by "romantic love" you mean shit like the Hollywood version of love, or the ideal of romance novels - which is love without pain - then I agree with you.

[Icarus]

(10-05-2013 08:02 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

Love is quite real - although its something you cannot physically touch, it is quite potent, and you can feel its affects. Like a drug. Anyone who has been in love knows that.

I agree. Schopenhauer on the metaphysics of love:

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Rochefoucauld says that love may be compared to a ghost since it is something we talk about but have never seen, and Lichtenberg, in his essay Ueber die Macht der Liebe, disputes and denies its reality and naturalness — but both are in the wrong. For if it were foreign to and contradicted human nature — in other words, if it were merely an imaginary caricature, it would not have been depicted with such zeal by the poets of all ages, or accepted by mankind with an unaltered interest; for anything artistically beautiful cannot exist without truth.

Experience, although not that of everyday, verifies that that which as a rule begins only as a strong and yet controllable inclination, may develop, under certain conditions, into a passion, the ardour of which surpasses that of every other. It will ignore all considerations, overcome all kinds of obstacles with incredible strength and persistence. A man, in order to have his love gratified, will unhesitatingly risk his life; in fact, if his love is absolutely rejected, he will sacrifice his life into the bargain. The Werthers and Jacopo Ortis do not only exist in romances; Europe produces every year at least half-a-dozen like them: sed ignotis perierunt mortibus illi: for their sufferings are chronicled by the writer of official registers or by the reporters of newspapers. Indeed, readers of the police news in English and French newspapers will confirm what I have said.

Love drives a still greater number of people into the lunatic asylum.

[cardguy]

It depends what you mean by 'real'. Is the vanishing penis epidemic 'real' because people believed it to be?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1274235.stm

Does 'God' become real because you are convinced you saw him, or convinced you heard him speak to you?

[MHaes]

(10-05-2013 10:03 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

It depends what you mean by 'real'. Is the vanishing penis epidemic 'real' because people believed it to be?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1274235.stm

Does 'God' become real because you are convinced you saw him, or convinced you heard him speak to you?

I'm not debating the existence or reality of God, but rather the existence of love.

Love is not real because people believe it to be, but because it has observable "symptoms".

[cardguy]

But the symptoms are no more 'real' than mass delusions like the one I linked to.

Just sayin'... :-)

[iknowexactly]

(10-01-2013 12:37 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Nowadays, my perspective has changed. If I'm in a good state at the time or witty enough when I get asked that question, I'll just say 'its complicated.'

Don't chicks know yet that is a stone cold player giveaway, hahha?

"It's complicated" sounds so narcissistic to me!!! LIke, either, "I'm fucking other chicks and don't want to talk about it" or "I'm in conflict with some other chick and don't want to talk about it." I guess it's more intriguing to a naive chick so maybe that's good.

Good for you if it works for you, if a chick says that now I immediately discount her as a manipulative crazy that's going to be playing games every fucking minute.

[Doctore]

It'd sound bad coming from a chick, because you're a man, but it's the equivalent of a chick telling you she's a little bit crazy in bed.

[Giovonny]

Freedom, flexibility, variety, and options.

[AntiTrace]

I'm single because I love women and I truly hate breaking their hearts.

I have been in multiple LTRs and was married when I was younger. I realized that the honeymoon period of a relationship is amazing and everyone should experience it. But I found I eventually get bored, it may take 6 months it may take 3 years but I will always get bored.

When I get bored I start looking around at the signs I am getting from other women, realizing that I obviously can't have them all but I could certainly have some of them. I feel like Will Ferrell in Old School. I start wondering what type of panties they are wearing, if they have a nice clean cut pussy or a large beefy one, if they like to swallow, what their favorite position is. Then I look to the girl I've been dating for 6+ months or so and realize why I am so bored. I am so bored because their is absolutely no mystery left between us. I know exactly what she likes and exactly what she doesnt. There is nothing left for me to figure out. It's like reading the same novel over and over again. It may be an awesome novel, but it can't be the only thing you ever want to read again.

About that time I decide to break it off. But I have a problem of females falling deeply in love with me. And that pain I cause them by suddenly shattering their entire world kills me. It kills me because I care about them, the old I love you but im not in love with you anymore deal. I seriously get nauseous and have no appetite for a few days knowing what they are going through.

I hate breaking hearts because I truly do love women. The problem is I can't love just one of them. That is why I am single.

[PALEO DUDE]

[Spider]

Because I've been burned in the past, and a girl that seems 'worthy' enough to pursue an LTR with usually winds up acting like a selfish cunt.

Either that or they become overly attached and needy which can be just as unpleasant.

Honestly, most girls I'm with seem to prefer a casual relationship rather than pursuing a more serious relationship with me. Maybe this is because I don't text girls very often other than when I want to chill...I probably make it pretty clear that I am more interested in something physical and thus the girl lays off a bit too.

Also, because I am in a constant battle with my ego, I often prefer to up my notch count rather than pursue a higher quality girl; hence I think of, and approach women with a much narrower mind.

Right now, I'm seeing a 19 year old whose told me she's only had sex twice, never smoked a cigarette or weed, hardly drinks etc. and is really into me - can't get her to stop texting me...and the way she acts makes me actually believe that she is as straight edge as she claims.

^ While she might be a good girlfriend , I'm afraid she would soon become extremely boring. Girls that are goody two shoes and don't like exploring life and trying new things don't really appeal to me because they are rarely interesting. .

While I've traveled a good deal with my family, I can't wait to head off on my own where I can finally meet the 'feminine' 'traditional' girls everyone on RVF speaks about in Eastern Europe/FSU and SEA.

...maybe those chicks will be better candidates for a relationship. Until I find a girl who is innocent, loyal to me, and respectful, I'll be happy banging sluts.

[Barada22]

My friends and I have always joked that you can fit 99.9999% of women into 5 or 6 groups and in each group every girl is the same. Ex: rich bitch, goth/rocker chicks, book worm/homebody who think their "wine night" makes them crazy drinkers, etc.

Find me a girl who is different from the rest and I'll marry her in Vegas today, but in my experience so far (29 yrs old) there is no such thing. I'm not gonna hold my breath looking for that, there are enough sluts that there is no reason to get into anything serious.

[rudebwoy]

Spending time in Europe has spoiled me, girls in Canada are not up to standard for the most part.

[Kaii]

(09-30-2013 11:34 AM)DVY Wrote:  

Had an over-aggresive mom and grew up in a rule-structured environment that I hated. I have a real disdain for authority, and I see how my mom is, and its the exact opposite of what I want in a "relationship". That plus the constant flow of pussy in my life.

Dude, are we brothers? lol. I grew up exactly the same way, I loathe authority and bitchy women!

[XXL]

Unfulfilled fantasies. No man should settle down or kick the bucket before satisfying his personal desires first.

I actually admitted it to some girls. I told them that just like with sperm ejaculation that every man has to regularly get out of his system or else he will go insane, the same goes for his personal desires. If he still has some of them unsatisfied before settling or getting married he will still try to make them come true regardless of having GF/wife. Girls got discouraged from dating young guys

[KingJamesXXIII]

Im single because I don't trust women. Every chance I give them to earn my trust they disappoint me. This causes me to continually reduce my investment into women to record low levels.

[Sanblz33]

(10-03-2013 10:49 PM)puckman Wrote:  

From age 18 - 3 LTR's totaling 12 years. An 8 year marriage, and two other LTR's.

So 12-13 years of my life was spent;
-Spending significant time with these women
-Basically torching my 20's-mid 30's
-Spending enormous sums of money on these women.
-Neglecting; making more money, not traveling, not playing music, not reading/educating myself, saving money/investing.
-Sacrificing my health and happiness by constantly fighting and dealing with drama and their baggage.
-Basically I gave over the best years of my life to some undeserving women.

All because I believed in 'love'. But I totally regret it now. Spending all this time, energy, money, etc on women was/is a complete waste of time. And this is what every women does to you, even when gaming, you pay the price of time and energy getting the lay. I look at these poor saps in miserable marriages, wasting their time and money on someone who in the end is just making their lives miserable. Whats it worth?

For the guys that are in relationships who are active on this board, just admit it to yourself, you desperately want to escape, right? Thats why you're here.

On top of that there are just too many beautiful women in this world to just settle on one.

I would tell any young man not to have a girlfriend. Save your money and time, and focus on the things that really matter to you. I dont want one, and came here earlier this year as I was getting out of an 8 month LTR with what I thought was the sexiest woman I had ever been with. She is still texting right now after I broke up with her in July. She takes my time, energy, money, focus, etc. And all she wants is babies and my money. And I dont have that to give. And make no mistake, they all do, thats all they really want.

So much truth. The sad thing is that most guys don't realize this until they are in their mid-late 40's.






As for me, honestly I do not think women have anything intangible to offer (maybe that will change as I get older). As for now my main goal is centered around self-improvement (education, fitness, hobbies, etc).

[InternationPlayboy]

There are really two answers for me.

1) I live in America- there are very few girls worth wifing up here.

2) distance- I've dated two girls I'd consider being commited to, but one lived in Europe and one lived in brazil. The distance just made things too hard in both cases. After the first one I thought I'd never try a long distance relationship again, but then I met the girl from Europe. I never thought I would try and follow through with a relationship, but we kept in touch and we clicked real well, but the distance fucked everything up. We lasted a little over a year, but it just wasn't working out.

[Screwston]

I would like a girlfriend but I think every girl suspects that im a hoe and doesnt want to stick around. I dont like being to nice and opening up which probably doesnt help. I dont even know how you get a girlfriend.

[TrueStory]

Why not?


Simple answer to a simple question.

[JayJuanGee]

(11-04-2013 06:36 PM)TrueStory Wrote:  

Why not?


Simple answer to a simple question.

In my thinking, "Why not?" is a question and NOT an answer.

I'm single partly by coincidence. I've always gotten bored with my attempts at long term relationships - usually after a few months - three to six months; however, I think that boredom has been mere coincidence b/c I would NOT be disinclined to "settle" down with some woman in the right circumstances.

For me, there does seem to be some stress with bouncing from girl to girl or attempting to create and maintain a harem - especially, when there are dry spells.