[Doctore]

I recently started work near a major university campus. During the day, I can take various breaks to walk around campus. I'm using said breaks for a few purposes: be physically active, learn a new language and day game uni chicks. My day game experience is very limited but I used to approach strangers during the day to promote my sport clubs and dance schools so I'm comfortable with doing so. I have bought Day Bang but haven't finished reading yet. I figure I'll get my approaches in as I progress through the book. I also train at the uni gym so I get some approaches done at the gym as well.

So far so good, in the last couple of weeks since I started, I've got a few numbers and a few coffee dates, no bang yet but progressing nicely with two.

I have a few questions for you veterans, especially if you have any experience day gaming in Australia (I'm in Melbourne).

Some info about myself that might be relevant: I'm 5'7", Asian with some mix, 30 y.o but look very young just like the students, dressed like one (although sharp and not sloppy). Looks wise, women often describe me as "handsome" and "fit" (never "hot" though damn it). I'd say I'm a 7. I approach girls 6-8, white or asian. No accent, I grow up here. My notch count is over 20, mostly with white girls (very few Asian girls in my social circle).

So far I've been using 3 major types of openers:

- Assume familiarity and say something to a nearby girl out of the blue, e.g "hey, no procrastination, girl!" if she's fiddling with her phone while appearing to read the lecture notes.

- Elderly "what does this do? / what are you doing with blah?" if I see a chick in the middle of some activity with equipments, posters etc.

- Lost man - asking for direction / information

Q1. How open are young Aussie (of all ethnicities) girls to day game approaches?

The vast majority of my experience is in social circle game. This is new to me. However, I've noticed that 9 out of 10 positive approaches I've got are with foreign exchange or international students: mostly from North America, Europe or China. I have no idea if they're foreign when I first approach. I often pick a girl with a pleasant face who looks like she might be receptive and like she's enjoying being there, and it just happens that most of them are foreigners lol. The vast majority of local girls just have their cunt faces on all day long. I have not seen any other guy doing day game around here at all.

Q2. Local Aussie - particularly Melbourne girls are negative - how to deal?

There's a RSD video I've seen posted on this forum where the instructor (an Aussie guy from another state) says that he's been to 80 cities in the world and Melbourne girls are the most negative and hard to crack. Now I have no idea how true that is, but with my recent day game experience, I do notice that the stuff they ramble on about with me are usually negative and whiny, while the foreign girls are more positive and bubbly. Now I don't care much about their mental state, I just want to give them dick all the same, but my own state is positive and happy, so I often find it hard to connect with the negative local girls in the 5-10 mins approaching them as a stranger (different in a social circle). I think I'm coming in with too high or too different energy for them. OTOH, I believe I ought to hold on strongly to my positive frame. How should I deal with this?

Honestly I'd rather not have any negative people in my life at all, but it's hard to see any smiling happy locals around, even on a glorious sunny spring day like today. Gotta deal somehow.

Q3. Going more direct?

I've noticed that some girls would make eye contact with me when I flash a grin looking at them (walking in opposite directions), smile and look down or away to the side. I know they dig my looks, but I've been a little chicken and haven't approached those yet. The next time that happens, I will. But knowing that they like my looks already, should I go somewhat direct or keep the usual indirect? Don't want to scare the cats, Aussie girls aren't typically the most confident nor direct type. I've done direct game successfully but only with European girls in a bar setting, with their inhibition lowered through alcohol and partying vibe.

Q4. Rambling chicks

With the girls I've opened successfully, I can get them to ramble on about themselves by asking questions. I'd insert some humourous observations or analogies of what they're telling me, to direct things - even dry topics like what they study - towards a fun or flirty zone. However, about half of the girls don't seem to bite and keep on rambling about their boring majors or life. Now I'm not sure that it's low interest, as they appear more on the nerdy / introvert side of the spectrum, likely late bloomers, probably don't know how to flirt, nor have guys in their social circle with any Game at all hitting on them. Still, I'm struggling to get them to the flirty zone where I can exchange numbers as a natural progression towards a future meetup, instead of a rather forced number close that would only result in flakes. So far I've simply ended the conversation on a good note and left.

How do you deal with girls like those?

Thanks for reading.

[Doctore]

Last two weeks have been mid-semester break, so I didn't get many approaches done on campus, but I've been opening a couple girls a day elsewhere during the day. Gym, market, public transport, bar w. live music on weekend afternoons... I have a high success rate with openers followed by a short conversation, but need to push for the close more aggressively. Missed out on a few because I hesitated and she had to leave. I've got a bunch of numbers and am juggling them for meetups. The previous pattern of non-local girls largely continues, my number closes have been girls from Sydney, Perth, France, America, Canada, Spain (this one approached me), with just one local girl.

My gym openers have worked well, but somehow nearly all the girls I've opened so far have boyfriends. They're mostly very hot ones that other guys at the gym are afraid to talk to though, so that helps me a bit to lower approach anxiety even further. I've got some fun dynamics going on with them, which might help in the near future. In another place (e.g night game venue), I'd go with some kind of BF destroyers and proceed to escalate, but it's a little too public at the gym for that. Not sure what to do yet, so far I just flat out ignore the mention of the BF, and change topics. They don't seem to bring the BF up much either, just once or twice. My current scheme is to time my session so I finish roughly at the same time as them and go grab a coffee or drink afterwards.

[Doctore]

Oh yeah forgot, here's a fun one. I approached a redhead cutie, slim with long legs, at the gym, opened her assuming familiarity and teasing her on the exercise she was doing. Went alright, she loved it, and gave me her name first. As part of the convo, I remember asking what she's working out for. She said: "umm to work out certain personal issues..."

As a side note, one of my fav gym openers is to say something like: "That looks hard / odd / interesting.. what are you training for, some sport?" Always works well.

Two days later, I saw her on the way to the gym, waved at her to say hi. She looked at me, turned away, completely ignored me. Then I saw her in the cardio area later punching the shit out of the cross trainer like a mad woman. Everyone around her was like "wtf???"

Working out personal issues indeed...

[Doctore]

Mid-semester break over. Today is a glorious sunny spring day. However, most girls look pissed off or completely lost in their smart phones lol. That's just Melbourne for you.

Had my tight T-shirt on showing off pecs and outline of 6-packs, plus the slutty shorts for dem quadzz.

Made 3 approaches today.

First one is a smoking hot slim blonde on the tram, one of the hottest I've ever had the balls to approach. Flashed her a grin while standing on opposite sides of the tram. She was smiling & playing with her hair blah blah. Approached when we both got off at a major stop. Tapped her on the upper arm and told her "your fly is kinda open, you know" - first thing that came off the top of my head lol. Unfortunately I realised she had stealth headphones on and couldn't hear shit, just turned, smiled, said excuse me and crossed the other side of the road. Damn! Nothing came out of it, but I realised that I had almost no approach anxiety walking up to her. Good personal improvement for girls of that level of hotness. Maybe I'll catch her on the tram at a later date.

Second is an Asian FOB at a water fountain. I got invited to some student performance arts night this Friday. Shall bring a mate along and see what happens.

Third is some cute nerdy chick studying a big textbook who quickly flashed me a smile then turned away. Approached and asked her BS questions I already know the answers to (should do this more often). Didn't know I only had a few minutes before she had to get into her tutorial.

[Doctore]

This is flake week! 5 flakes so far, only the two foreign girls (French and Spanish) apologise AND offer a reschedule. Told them to come meet me when I'm seeing a live band this weekend's afternoons. We'll see... The Aussie girls said sorry, but no counter offer. One seemed very keen to see me again when we met & during TXT exchanges, but when I TXTed back saying next time we meet, you're gonna buy me a huuuge hot chocolate to make up for it, I got nothing back. Couldn't be fucked responding to the other two.

Today I managed to get a geeky cute Croatian girl's number before her ugly tank Asian FOB friend arrived and cockblocked.

Maybe I should just move to Europe! lol

[Doctore]

Went to the student performing arts that the Asian FOB chick invited me to. She greeted me at the door and her friend let me in without needing to pay. Sweet start, but inside it's such a cliquey crowd, could barely get much going. Still, I managed two numbers, guess with whom... a French and a Dane exchange students lol.

Was walking around the back, saw the French chick texting, made fun of her for being a phone addict and not watching the show. We talked about lots of stuff, even childhood memories with our respective fathers. Was going to bounce her to somewhere afterwards for drinks, but she had to go catch up with some friends. Got the number and potential date for later. Ran into the Dane later, talked a bit about parts of the show that we both shared a keen interest in. Her friend seemed very nice (and pretty attractive herself) and gave us time & space to talk. Number closed, and getting her to come out to see my chick friend's band on Wednesday night.

Tried to help a young friend of mine approach there, but he got blown apart left right and center. This fella needs a shitload more Game study.

This afternoon I hit the popular local hipster jeans shop to get some. Quite a lot of girls there, but not that many talents, just a handful of cuties. Not sure if buying jeans brings out their insecurities (cos they're afraid of getting fatter than last time) but they were a tough grumpy crowd, even the sales chicks. I got one cute sales girl to assist me with cutting the jeans into shorts, asked her to "recommend me a good length for just the right amount of slutty". Usually chicks love that, but this time didnt even get a smile from her, just straight business. Meh

Best thing about that shop is that, considering #fatshamingweek, I saw a fat older woman asking the sales chick if there's a bigger size of that pair of jeans. Sales chick (keeping in mind it's a hipster store for skinny SWPL hipsters): I'm sorry that's our largest size for women, perhaps you can try a men's pair?

Approached a hot Asian chick at the gym doing all kinds of stretches and core stuff on the mat while playing with her phone. Commented "that's a lot of hard work just to use a phone!" Got a smile and some mumbled words, then she went straight back to the phone and ignored me.

My new neighbour (cute young blonde) approached me just to say hi when I was hanging my washing out, wearing my tank top and slutty shorts. Before we got to chat much, some old guy (prob her landlord) came along to fix her fence that got blown away the other night, so she had to go. Next time!

[Doctore]

Flake week concluded with French chick flaking on me Sat afternoon cos she had to look after the kids (au pair for rich family), then Sunday (today) the weather stinks so it was my turn to flake on Spanish chick w. a reschedule. Also flaking on my lawyer chick tonight.

TXTed other French chick to set up something, but no response so far. No good, thought we had some good rapport.

Dane girl seems more solid, but she wants to bring some friends on Wed night. If her friends all look like that one from Friday night (hot girl performing some street dance), sure! so I said yeah bring them along for the fun.

None of the girls I've talked to at the gym lately has been around. Bitches have no consistency lol

[Doctore]

More flakes... I double-booked on Wed night and both flaked lol. The Dane was a no show and didn't even TXT me an excuse. The Spanish TXTed me half an hour before saying she's too tired to go out. I went to the place anyway (good band was on) and TXTed her back 2h later: "you're no fun lol", nothing from her yet. Few attractive girls there at the venue, 2 cute bartenders, 1 girl with a BF, 1 cute girl actually approached me after seeing me talking to her girl friend (just shooting the shit). She was pretty flirty, showed plenty of IOIs, asked my name first, touchy feely etc. but a bit later, some French "friend" of her showed up - tall skinny musician guy who later played with the band - and I was ditched in a flash. Damn! Chatted up an Asian chick later, and she seemed interested, but couldn't stop bitching about her boss being a dick which bored and annoyed me, so I ditched her.

Back to more campus approaches...

[Doctore]

Approached a redhead, went well, even got to a little bit of touchy feely, then her friend and boyfriend showed up lol.

Bombed out of a few other approaches on Aussie girls this week. They usually pretended they didn't see or hear me, then went away.

Approached a gazelle-like blonde on the athletic tracks, had to run a couple of laps around the oval (this is straight after my hard lifting session) so it'd make a more seamless approach. Turned out to be.... yet another exchange student from America. Decent chat, but she didnt pick up on any bait I threw out, so we just exchanged names then left.

I think it's now official that I can't cold-approach any Aussie girl during the day lol

Night game is another story. At recent parties, I was hit on by Aussie feminists. One's a self-admitted bisexual tall slim chick who was all over me, and the other was a very doable 30-sth brunette. Their lines were similar: "I like your hat/hair, looks totally hot *giggles*" However they were both tipsy and after hearing that they work for some women empowerment projects and go to feminist conferences, all I could think of was post-P&D "false rape accusation" so I just took the numbers they gave me and bailed.

I suppose the answer to my problems is just more approaches...

[Doctore]

Last few days the weather has been shocking so I haven't managed to do much, just two approaches.

Did some rambling with a pretty brunette while going for the water fountain. Turned out she's married (young). Went ok, but the memorable part was when she waved her arms in the air to describe something to me, and I was nearly knocked out by her stinky armpits. Can't believe such a pretty well-dressed girl is oblivious to that.

Approached a chick w. slutty piercings at the gym who wears almost purple everything: "what's your favourite colour?" lol went alright, she's giggling with everything I say. Will see her soon.

Have a certain playful dynamic going on with this cute brunette at the gym where we greet each other warmly with "hi enemy!" and she loves me making fun of her workouts to the point where she just cracks up whenever I look at her exercising without saying anything. Problem is I'm always training hard when she's there and by the time I get to the stretching part where I can chat up girls, she's already gone. Not sure how to proceed, gotta work out the logistics.

[Fredster]

Loving your journal, as a fellow Melbourne citizen I too can appreciate how tricky daygame can be.

I like to game just after 5pm sometimes aswell because you get so much traffic.

Your description sounds very familiar. I think we may have met. You go to Doherty's gym ?

[Doctore]

Maybe mate, I've trained at Doherty's from time to time. I hit the gym just after 5 / work so can't game then.

Yeah currently with our shitty weather, day game is pretty tricky! Hard enough with the cuntfaces glued to iphones on nice sunny days!

[OMYG]

Hey guys,
I attend an L.A. university campus.
Now a problem I encountered when approaching in school that I wasnt approaching every cute girl I saw. On a regular school day I get 1 or 2 daily approaches mainly in the libraries or study areas.
But soon I noticed I see girls walking around that I dont see in the library or in sitting and calm relaxed environments.
So I was thinking in a way I can open girls while they are walking around campus and I thought of an opener that I believe will not make your approach obvious. Its still in the testing stages but itll be nice if you guys tried it aswell to get some feedback. The opener basically is
"Excuse me, dont I have you for [class/subject]?" Before she responds also add some bs excuse like "did he leave hw today?" And then she will respond with a "no"then you start your ramble. I believe this works because most likely class sizes are big and nobody realizes everyone that its in there.
Just thought I could share this opener especially for girls that are just walking around.

[Doctore]

I can't really use that because I'm not a student, have no clue about the courses and would be found out quickly.

If I were a student though, I would drop the "Excuse me", that's weak sauce. Just say "hey, dont I have you for blah?"

Still, I'd rather open on fun topics that are NOT uni-related. That's like talking about work to some career woman: a topic that brings up stress and not fun. Whenever I say something about what they do at uni, I never hear about their passion, only bitching about assignments, tutors being dicks, foreign students being useless in group projects etc. Not a good path to go down. If you open on something about uni, just make sure you switch to a different fun topic asap.

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The weather is still shitty and it's also pre-exam non-teaching period, so there are hardly any girls around for approaches.

I saw this really pretty blonde at a tram stop. Made some eye contact, smiled at her, she smiled back. She then looked at the timetable, so as I looked it up on my phone, I told her it's gonna be here in X mins. Got a "thank you" which is, believe it or not, super rare around here (yeah, quality girls in my city...). Before I could continue, she talked to me about how great the rain was as it was falling down. I like that spirit. Convo flowed from there to childhood memories in the rain, to performing arts - she's some kind of visual arts student. We kept talking as we got on the tram. Was going very well then as I was saying how I frequent jazz music venues, she suddenly brought up "my boyfriend is a jazz musician in a band" lol. I asked "oh really? which band does he play in? I know most of them". She's like "oh.... he's in heaps of them, I don't know". Sure.... She never brought him up again, and at this point I thought it was a non-issue. Kept going a bit more then timed it before I had to get off for the "let's exchange contacts so we artsy geeks can talk again". She brushed it off pretending she didn't hear that, but said she'd look up my favourite music venue and go there, hoping to see me around. Blah, that means never.

Why do I always have that kind of encounter with taken chicks? Never happens with single girls. Ah well... at least it was pleasant.

Did a muddy obstacle course on the weekends with some mates. Quite a few fit girls around. Tried to make some approaches as we were running alongside them, but no bites. It's like bachelorette party, no girl left behind crap. Or maybe they were just self-conscious because they got mud all over their faces and bodies lol. Probably not the best place for day gaming, but it's good that I put it to the test. The best I got was some older women in the audience wolf whistling at me as I went topless while tackling the Gladiators and climbing over the last few obstacles.

Gonna need new places for day game in November when the students have their exams.