There is an important lesson in this pickup and it was funny because, I was actually trying to leave this girl and she practically would not let me leave. It was a comedy…I couldn’t make this stuff up even if I was paid to. (Like most American girls – she’s a bit nuts!)
I went to check some new places in Wynwood. One spot was an art gallery and a lounge called Cafeina. Cool place but mostly big groups of older people and no really good looking girls. Then I went to a place called Shots, right down the street, younger crowd but about the same, no targets. As I was driving back I noticed this place and decided to go in to see what was happening. It was dead too, not one single decent target. As I was about to leave I saw a waitress walking by, I checked her out and noticed that she was definitely very nice. I look around the place again just to be sure but yep she was the only decent looking girl in there. Now, I don’t normally like picking up working girls because they get hit on a lot but it was either that or I go home without even trying. And since I knew I would hate myself if I went home without at least trying the decision was made.
I approached her and opened her with something about the place being empty and we started chatting. It was all pretty much standard stuff nothing special. The only thing I did notice was that she was making and maintaining eye contact. But the real IOI was that she kept coming back. One sure way to know if a working girl is interested in you is if she keeps returning to talk to you. Because she can just go run around and do her job, she doesn’t need to come back and talk to you. So after talking to her for about an hour, she was also doing like 60% of the talking, I decided to leave. She wasn’t going to get off until after 4 and I couldn’t stay talking to this girl for another three hours. So I told her straight up that I liked her and wanted to see her again. She looked at me and said that she was “flattered but that she was not available.” Now, I thought that was a strange word to use but more importantly she didn’t run away she just stood there looking at me. Now, this is where a lot of guys mess up, they ask a girl out and she turns them down and they quit right there. But, while she may have turned me down, her body language was saying something different. Just the fact that she was still there talking to me meant something. So I just ignored it, didn’t react to it, said something like ok and just kept talking – actually I moved closer to her less than one feet. And this is where it got interesting…
After about 15 mins from the point she said no, her behavior started to change. She got more excited and energetic, she started touching me more as she talked and she really started talking. Now, she was like talking about 90% of the time. I was just standing there leaning back and nodding my head and saying hmmm and stuff like that. Here are some highlights of that conversation:
She recently suffered some allergic reacting to some birth control pills that made her breast two size smaller AND she is happy about this. Why is she happy about this? Because for all of her life she has been ashamed of her big breast which she had since she was 12. She was ashamed of them because men were always hitting on her and trying to have sex with her because of her breast. So she came to associate her breast with these “perverts.” So now that her breasts are smaller she is thrilled.
She was a virgin throughout high school. She had a boyfriend for three years and never had sex. Everyone thought she was a slut because of her big breast but she never had sex with any guy in high school. She was even a cheerleader and while a lot of her friends were having sex she never did. She is actually proud of this but this was another reason she hated her breast.
She thinks her best personality trait is that she is funny. She said she had a dry sense of humor. I said, everyone thinks there are funny. So then she started to try to make me laugh. But trust me, she is not a funny girl, I wasn’t getting her humor but she wouldn’t quit. She kept trying and trying, I finally decided to laugh just so she would stop. And she immediately went, see, I told you I was funny! She was so happy that she thought she made me laugh that I started laughing for real. I couldn’t help thinking this shit is hilarious. I have a girl that’s trying to entertain me and make me laugh and I have to fake laughing.
But I was getting mentally tired from the talking, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I literally tried to leave three times but she wouldn’t let me. It was ridiculous. I would suggest she go and service the customers and she would just say ah, they don’t need anything right now. And when she did go, she would be sure to tell me that she was coming back. I felt like I was the one being gamed now and just like a girl I felt trapped - this was too much.
She told me she need a website when she found out I made websites. She asked me how much I would charge her to build her website. I told her and she said she didn’t have any money right now. We ended up having a whole discussion about how she would pay for her website. She gave me a detail break down of all of her expenses – how could she find the money to pay me. I finally told her since she met a lot of men she could try to sell them our services and I would pay her a commission which would go towards her website. She loved this idea and asked me to give her a bunch of cards to start handing out. So now, she had become a potential business associate. I gave her all the cards I had in my wallet and she said is this all, she wanted more. So I went to the car and got her a bunch more. So now she started telling me about her modeling and acting. I was still trying to leave but she wouldn’t let me. Every time I tried to end the conversation she would just ignore me and kept talking. I was starting to get a headache, I couldn’t focus on what she was saying anymore, I was just standing there nodding my head.
At some point she actually told me she was really single but she tells guys that she is unavailable because she doesn’t want to lie – she’s a good Christian girl. She said, guys get obsessed with her. All I could think about was where was one of these guys right now. I was beginning to zone out, her lips were moving but I couldn’t hear the words, she was touching me even more. She was doing almost 100% of the talking now, I don’t even remembered what I said, I think I was incoherent. At some point, I just told her I had to leave and just kissed her and walked out. I was done for the night, Charlie had talked me out of whatever sexual interest I had - now I was just mentally tired.
** The important point I wanted to make here was how by ignoring her initial response of her turning me down when I asked her out and not reacting to it, I somehow gained her respect and this changed everything. From that point on she was the one doing the gaming or the torturing depending on how you look at it. Don’t walk away just because a woman tells you something, doesn’t matter what it is, PUSH THROUGH. As long as she is still there interacting with you, keep going. In the end the only thing that matters is what she does, not what she says.
PS To be honest, I would need some sort of chemical help to handle Charlie and the sheer amount of talking she is capable of. I honestly don’t think I could sit through two more hours of it. But other than that, she’s a very nice girl and who knows, maybe she will get me some business.
I went to check some new places in Wynwood. One spot was an art gallery and a lounge called Cafeina. Cool place but mostly big groups of older people and no really good looking girls. Then I went to a place called Shots, right down the street, younger crowd but about the same, no targets. As I was driving back I noticed this place and decided to go in to see what was happening. It was dead too, not one single decent target. As I was about to leave I saw a waitress walking by, I checked her out and noticed that she was definitely very nice. I look around the place again just to be sure but yep she was the only decent looking girl in there. Now, I don’t normally like picking up working girls because they get hit on a lot but it was either that or I go home without even trying. And since I knew I would hate myself if I went home without at least trying the decision was made.
I approached her and opened her with something about the place being empty and we started chatting. It was all pretty much standard stuff nothing special. The only thing I did notice was that she was making and maintaining eye contact. But the real IOI was that she kept coming back. One sure way to know if a working girl is interested in you is if she keeps returning to talk to you. Because she can just go run around and do her job, she doesn’t need to come back and talk to you. So after talking to her for about an hour, she was also doing like 60% of the talking, I decided to leave. She wasn’t going to get off until after 4 and I couldn’t stay talking to this girl for another three hours. So I told her straight up that I liked her and wanted to see her again. She looked at me and said that she was “flattered but that she was not available.” Now, I thought that was a strange word to use but more importantly she didn’t run away she just stood there looking at me. Now, this is where a lot of guys mess up, they ask a girl out and she turns them down and they quit right there. But, while she may have turned me down, her body language was saying something different. Just the fact that she was still there talking to me meant something. So I just ignored it, didn’t react to it, said something like ok and just kept talking – actually I moved closer to her less than one feet. And this is where it got interesting…
After about 15 mins from the point she said no, her behavior started to change. She got more excited and energetic, she started touching me more as she talked and she really started talking. Now, she was like talking about 90% of the time. I was just standing there leaning back and nodding my head and saying hmmm and stuff like that. Here are some highlights of that conversation:
She recently suffered some allergic reacting to some birth control pills that made her breast two size smaller AND she is happy about this. Why is she happy about this? Because for all of her life she has been ashamed of her big breast which she had since she was 12. She was ashamed of them because men were always hitting on her and trying to have sex with her because of her breast. So she came to associate her breast with these “perverts.” So now that her breasts are smaller she is thrilled.
She was a virgin throughout high school. She had a boyfriend for three years and never had sex. Everyone thought she was a slut because of her big breast but she never had sex with any guy in high school. She was even a cheerleader and while a lot of her friends were having sex she never did. She is actually proud of this but this was another reason she hated her breast.
She thinks her best personality trait is that she is funny. She said she had a dry sense of humor. I said, everyone thinks there are funny. So then she started to try to make me laugh. But trust me, she is not a funny girl, I wasn’t getting her humor but she wouldn’t quit. She kept trying and trying, I finally decided to laugh just so she would stop. And she immediately went, see, I told you I was funny! She was so happy that she thought she made me laugh that I started laughing for real. I couldn’t help thinking this shit is hilarious. I have a girl that’s trying to entertain me and make me laugh and I have to fake laughing.
But I was getting mentally tired from the talking, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I literally tried to leave three times but she wouldn’t let me. It was ridiculous. I would suggest she go and service the customers and she would just say ah, they don’t need anything right now. And when she did go, she would be sure to tell me that she was coming back. I felt like I was the one being gamed now and just like a girl I felt trapped - this was too much.
She told me she need a website when she found out I made websites. She asked me how much I would charge her to build her website. I told her and she said she didn’t have any money right now. We ended up having a whole discussion about how she would pay for her website. She gave me a detail break down of all of her expenses – how could she find the money to pay me. I finally told her since she met a lot of men she could try to sell them our services and I would pay her a commission which would go towards her website. She loved this idea and asked me to give her a bunch of cards to start handing out. So now, she had become a potential business associate. I gave her all the cards I had in my wallet and she said is this all, she wanted more. So I went to the car and got her a bunch more. So now she started telling me about her modeling and acting. I was still trying to leave but she wouldn’t let me. Every time I tried to end the conversation she would just ignore me and kept talking. I was starting to get a headache, I couldn’t focus on what she was saying anymore, I was just standing there nodding my head.
At some point she actually told me she was really single but she tells guys that she is unavailable because she doesn’t want to lie – she’s a good Christian girl. She said, guys get obsessed with her. All I could think about was where was one of these guys right now. I was beginning to zone out, her lips were moving but I couldn’t hear the words, she was touching me even more. She was doing almost 100% of the talking now, I don’t even remembered what I said, I think I was incoherent. At some point, I just told her I had to leave and just kissed her and walked out. I was done for the night, Charlie had talked me out of whatever sexual interest I had - now I was just mentally tired.
** The important point I wanted to make here was how by ignoring her initial response of her turning me down when I asked her out and not reacting to it, I somehow gained her respect and this changed everything. From that point on she was the one doing the gaming or the torturing depending on how you look at it. Don’t walk away just because a woman tells you something, doesn’t matter what it is, PUSH THROUGH. As long as she is still there interacting with you, keep going. In the end the only thing that matters is what she does, not what she says.
PS To be honest, I would need some sort of chemical help to handle Charlie and the sheer amount of talking she is capable of. I honestly don’t think I could sit through two more hours of it. But other than that, she’s a very nice girl and who knows, maybe she will get me some business.