I can't stop myself from tracking this bitch's every move on fb.
Looking for some help here
I think you should keep on doing what ever you want. From personal experience, I know it's not right to keep perusing her. It is desperate in every sense of the word but maybe you need to hear/see it from her to the point where even she has to express why your creepy behavior freaks her out (ignoring you in class, deleting you from Facebook, cock blocking you from other cute classmates by dropping the "nice guy" description, etc.).
If you don't want to take the advice everyone's giving you and learn the easy way, maybe the hard way will give you the lesson you'll never forget.
I know one-itis is tough, and you're always thinking "what if I did (insert romantic beta gesture here)". So just do it. Clear your mind of this burden and get it out of the way so you can move on to sleeping with other girls.
After your inevitable fuck up (trust me, it will be big, and will be a clear sign of the end), start learning from the site this forum is attached to, and then you'll begin to see a clearer picture. Losing something can be good for the heart sometimes, so use it to your advantage.
If you don't want to take the advice everyone's giving you and learn the easy way, maybe the hard way will give you the lesson you'll never forget.
I know one-itis is tough, and you're always thinking "what if I did (insert romantic beta gesture here)". So just do it. Clear your mind of this burden and get it out of the way so you can move on to sleeping with other girls.
After your inevitable fuck up (trust me, it will be big, and will be a clear sign of the end), start learning from the site this forum is attached to, and then you'll begin to see a clearer picture. Losing something can be good for the heart sometimes, so use it to your advantage.
Who ever said I was a nice guy? What are you talking about? What about my posts gives you the impression I am a nice guy?
I feel bad about taking up everyone's time. I won't post anymore. I'll see what happens today if I see this bitch
oh the good old days. I have pretty much done what newb69 is doing, in my past. You're either going to get a text from her to fuck off, literally. Or she will send some dude that's either hitting it or or close to hit it to straighten you out.
You gotta hit rock bottom before you accept you wanna improve.. keep going sounds like your almost doing everything wrong.. you got the greatest potential of any guy here to improve... just keep going!
Good post reminds everybody why we are here... and Ive been desperate too, so its ok.. but next time we want something a little more edgy..![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Good post reminds everybody why we are here... and Ive been desperate too, so its ok.. but next time we want something a little more edgy..
Yeah, when I was younger I used to do some of the things this guy is doing. Trust me man, nothing you're doing is gonna have a good result.
When you meet the next girl, you need to do the exact opposite of everything you did with this girl. The sooner you stop caring so much about girls and over-analyzing everything, and just stop giving a fuck, the sooner girls will want you.
In the mean time, read Roosh's articles. I'm not trying to kiss the guy's ass, but he's really right about most things. Read them, and then get out there and put your new knowledge to use. You'll get better with women.
When you meet the next girl, you need to do the exact opposite of everything you did with this girl. The sooner you stop caring so much about girls and over-analyzing everything, and just stop giving a fuck, the sooner girls will want you.
In the mean time, read Roosh's articles. I'm not trying to kiss the guy's ass, but he's really right about most things. Read them, and then get out there and put your new knowledge to use. You'll get better with women.
Quote: (10-26-2010 12:13 PM)ZTheGreat Wrote:
Yeah, when I was younger I used to do some of the things this guy is doing. Trust me man, nothing you're doing is gonna have a good result.
When you meet the next girl, you need to do the exact opposite of everything you did with this girl. The sooner you stop caring so much about girls and over-analyzing everything, and just stop giving a fuck, the sooner girls will want you.
In the mean time, read Roosh's articles. I'm not trying to kiss the guy's ass, but he's really right about most things. Read them, and then get out there and put your new knowledge to use. You'll get better with women.
I agree here, I've read the articles, got the email's and Roosh knows his shit. Haven't read bang yet but It's on my list. Practice makes perfect...
I used to be like this earlier. In fact, I'd suggest something alternate for this guy (if he's not trolling), which I did and opened my eyes to the reality
Pursue this girl like hell. Try to talk to her after class using any pretext possible. Notice as she tries to avoid your gaze
Ask her again and again to go somewhere with you, till she finally agrees, and then tell her that you really, *really* like her, and would want her to be your girlfriend. Cringe as she says with totally plausible false sympathy something like "I had no idea", "I am flattered, but I don't see you in that way", or "You're a really great friend", etc. etc.
REALIZE, once and for all, that women DO NOT RESPOND WELL to guys who take them seriously. You would've been much better off playfully punching her in the arm lightly or something, and getting her familiar with physical contact.
Pursue this girl like hell. Try to talk to her after class using any pretext possible. Notice as she tries to avoid your gaze
Ask her again and again to go somewhere with you, till she finally agrees, and then tell her that you really, *really* like her, and would want her to be your girlfriend. Cringe as she says with totally plausible false sympathy something like "I had no idea", "I am flattered, but I don't see you in that way", or "You're a really great friend", etc. etc.
REALIZE, once and for all, that women DO NOT RESPOND WELL to guys who take them seriously. You would've been much better off playfully punching her in the arm lightly or something, and getting her familiar with physical contact.
Quote: (10-26-2010 03:47 PM)drachenfels Wrote:
I used to be like this earlier. In fact, I'd suggest something alternate for this guy (if he's not trolling), which I did and opened my eyes to the reality
Pursue this girl like hell. Try to talk to her after class using any pretext possible. Notice as she tries to avoid your gaze
Ask her again and again to go somewhere with you, till she finally agrees, and then tell her that you really, *really* like her, and would want her to be your girlfriend. Cringe as she says with totally plausible false sympathy something like "I had no idea", "I am flattered, but I don't see you in that way", or "You're a really great friend", etc. etc.
REALIZE, once and for all, that women DO NOT RESPOND WELL to guys who take them seriously. You would've been much better off playfully punching her in the arm lightly or something, and getting her familiar with physical contact.
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but, believe it or not, I saw the girl in class today and she wasn't avoiding me at all. In fact, she asked me a few questions as if nothing had ever happened between us. But then at the end of class she rushed out the room. I think this shit is pretty weird and she just wants attention.
You're doing well at the one thing you must: facing up to and engaging a woman face to face. It's the wrong girl, but you can fix that, and everything else, eventually. She subtly tells you "no", but you aren't reading her and "getting it."
I want to compliment all the posters on their generosity trying to help someone who seems a bit stuck.
OP: You'll suddenly see it, like the Matrix.
Your sort of dunderheaded persistence here, and inability to really hear what people are telling you, is probably how you come off to her in some way.
Like it or not, you are gaining information quickly. Remember all the things she's doing are part of the very polite way women act when they want to get rid of you. You'll learn to recognize it earlier and earlier, and not waste time. Smiling engagement, carefully trimmed in duration; complete lack of touching you.
Paul Janka wisdom: Difficult women remain difficult.
Girls who are DTF , especially you in particular, make it easy to fuck them. Then they start cooking and doing housework, if they know how, to try to really win you over. They think about the logistics and help indirectly set them up, they don't rush out after class when they want you to hit on them.
To be blunt, I think she's talking to you because she feels sorry for you and feels guilty. The reason posters assume you are nice is that your thoughts are or were centering around her, making you sort of her mental servant, even though you weren't physically with her.
Bad for you both. Wasting your time and energy, and creeping her out as you aren't reading her cues.
It's how I did with women for a long time.
At least it means you're not a frightening psycho who projects an inability to bond.
Don't try to fuck the girls you fall in love with, fall in love with the ones that fuck you, whenever you want, however you want, and are over-the-moon-happy while you're fucking them. Everyone else will disappoint you. You can't change them.
All the girlfriends who stuck with me (for at least a few months trying to convince me to marry them) were notable in that during sex I was actually worried about their well-being because the were out-of-their minds orgasming. It looked like they were being shaken about by some giant hand or something. Literally out of control.
I feel so stupid now, I would stop and them " Am I hurting you? "
My Dad's wisdom: "Don't worry, when they're serious, you'll know. "
They'll come so hard, you'll be scared.
If you don't know, she's not into you.
If you don't know, she's not into you.
As Mystery said, being sort of like a faithful dog may have been an effective reproductive strategy when we lived in small tribes without much social mobility.
Now women can sense who is high and low in status, and consistent with their biological programming are consistently shifting alliances to gain status for their future children.
Adapt, migrate, or die.
I want to compliment all the posters on their generosity trying to help someone who seems a bit stuck.
OP: You'll suddenly see it, like the Matrix.
Your sort of dunderheaded persistence here, and inability to really hear what people are telling you, is probably how you come off to her in some way.
Like it or not, you are gaining information quickly. Remember all the things she's doing are part of the very polite way women act when they want to get rid of you. You'll learn to recognize it earlier and earlier, and not waste time. Smiling engagement, carefully trimmed in duration; complete lack of touching you.
Paul Janka wisdom: Difficult women remain difficult.
Girls who are DTF , especially you in particular, make it easy to fuck them. Then they start cooking and doing housework, if they know how, to try to really win you over. They think about the logistics and help indirectly set them up, they don't rush out after class when they want you to hit on them.
To be blunt, I think she's talking to you because she feels sorry for you and feels guilty. The reason posters assume you are nice is that your thoughts are or were centering around her, making you sort of her mental servant, even though you weren't physically with her.
Bad for you both. Wasting your time and energy, and creeping her out as you aren't reading her cues.
It's how I did with women for a long time.
At least it means you're not a frightening psycho who projects an inability to bond.
Don't try to fuck the girls you fall in love with, fall in love with the ones that fuck you, whenever you want, however you want, and are over-the-moon-happy while you're fucking them. Everyone else will disappoint you. You can't change them.
All the girlfriends who stuck with me (for at least a few months trying to convince me to marry them) were notable in that during sex I was actually worried about their well-being because the were out-of-their minds orgasming. It looked like they were being shaken about by some giant hand or something. Literally out of control.
I feel so stupid now, I would stop and them " Am I hurting you? "
My Dad's wisdom: "Don't worry, when they're serious, you'll know. "
They'll come so hard, you'll be scared.
If you don't know, she's not into you.
If you don't know, she's not into you.
As Mystery said, being sort of like a faithful dog may have been an effective reproductive strategy when we lived in small tribes without much social mobility.
Now women can sense who is high and low in status, and consistent with their biological programming are consistently shifting alliances to gain status for their future children.
Adapt, migrate, or die.
I certainly am appreciative of the feedback I have been given and I do see my errors. But I do think that some of the feedback is maybe too presumptuous--i.e. she spoke to me yesterday in class because she felt sorry for me.
This is sort of a different question, but why would this girl not want to be in a relationship with me when we have very similar personas and interests? We seem to have all the right chemistry.
Quote: (10-27-2010 02:36 PM)newb69 Wrote:
This is sort of a different question, but why would this girl not want to be in a relationship with me when we have very similar personas and interests? We seem to have all the right chemistry.
You don't need to have similar interests to be in a relationship with a girl. A girl likes a new, refreshing, bold, suave, and strong man who likes whatever the bloody hell he wants, and casually acknowledges her likings. "OMG I like that band too!!!" will get you into the ranks of pantywaisted faggots she calls her "best friends for life".
What do you mean by strong? Do you mean someone who is "Alpha" as described in "Bang"?
That's another mistake I'd make when I was younger. I thought the way to get a girl was to have similiar interests with her. That is absolutely wrong. Having the same taste in music with a girl isn't gonna make her vagina melt. Girls want a guy who excites them, who stimulates the hell out of them, and who acts like a man around them. You can have nothing in common with her. It doesn't matter.
Seriously, can you please read Roosh's articles? You keep exhibiting that you know very little about women.
Seriously, can you please read Roosh's articles? You keep exhibiting that you know very little about women.
It's a pain things didn't go well at the beginning. but it's just that. Girls love men who never give up, but with personality. Be obstinate not a loser!, There's even a prhase "if you think you are going to fail, you have already failed".
If you are still interested the plan now is becoming interesting, tell her about the exciting time and all the fun you have when you go out, so if you really get her attention, she would say smth like "amazing, i'd love to do the same" and the you date her, but if she doesn't even react with that try inventing some hot girl, if she's happy with the news, say NEXT.
If you are still interested the plan now is becoming interesting, tell her about the exciting time and all the fun you have when you go out, so if you really get her attention, she would say smth like "amazing, i'd love to do the same" and the you date her, but if she doesn't even react with that try inventing some hot girl, if she's happy with the news, say NEXT.
do a freeze out. Don't act rude to her, but stop pursuing her. Don't ask her on any more dates. Be cool to her, but not rude.
Try to date someone else and then flaunt it. She'll get jealous real quick. You do have one-itis, and she knows it.
American girls love to be abused mentally. You need to act like you've got options- you have to really believe you do, because if you don't believe it, she won't. This means you should work on your game with other girls.
also take a good look at your hygiene, clothing, and speaking skills. spread your arms to other chairs when you talk. Spread your legs wider. Taking up more space = confidence.
Try to date someone else and then flaunt it. She'll get jealous real quick. You do have one-itis, and she knows it.
American girls love to be abused mentally. You need to act like you've got options- you have to really believe you do, because if you don't believe it, she won't. This means you should work on your game with other girls.
also take a good look at your hygiene, clothing, and speaking skills. spread your arms to other chairs when you talk. Spread your legs wider. Taking up more space = confidence.
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