Do you think she is laughing at me?
Looking for some help here
Quote: (10-23-2010 08:34 AM)newb69 Wrote:
What do you think?
You asked what we thought, and you've got some awareness you're being gamed--blow-off game--so I'm going to be blunt in the interests of speeding up the end of your self-deception. Please excuse any harshness.
The particular blow-off you've gotten (My guess: You're totally, 1000% blown at this point with this woman, ho hope at all) is not important except how it shows the huge amount of inner game work/personal development you need to do before you can be happy.
On one hand, you claim to be succeeding with women by "being a dick", on the other, this girl is 1000% screaming by her actions that she wants nothing to do with you. She works to make up what sounds like a total lie to avoid you. But instead of cutting your losses and moving on you're fixating on her-- actually not on her, but on a fantasy image of her that likes you. The real girl does not.
This inability to admit/unwillingness to see/unawareness of what you actually want (someone who actually likes you?) and to see what is actually happening in front of you ( someone who does not actually like you) shows you are lost in a bit of a fantasy world. Not a good place from which to game women.
You either need to fool yourself more completely and act like the "dick" you wish you were, or gain awareness of yourself so can admit what you want and go after it.
So why did she give me her number and seem excited to give me her number and why has she been eyeing me for the last month? I think where I really messed up was not passing her "shit test"
You are right about the fact you did something right in the beginning-- you made a move and got her number, that's great, you've got more balls than I usually do.
My guess is she was staring because you have natural good looks, but that's not something you earn, it's just given to you. Relationship oriented women demand more than that usually-- they want real or well-acted emotional submission to them, or at least the hope of it.
Something went wrong. One [wild] guess: You yourself said think acting like a dick is the way to deal with women. If she is a
nice girl, one of the rare Americans who isn't a stuck-up, sheep-like, shallow bitch (they do exist) she probably wants to
be treated affectionately, and if she sensed your anger, coldness, fear, and/or contempt, she realized you are a dead end relative to what she wants. Remember, they're not smart as in engineer-smart, but they're superior in intuition in most cases.
Women who like you and have a real reason they can't make a date always suggest an alternative meeting time and/or place.
Haven't you noticed how flat out and eager they are when they really say yes? "I'd love to," they say.
Excuses, especially a totally,totally false sounding one like this, without a alternate offered is at least 98% of the time a way to try to get you to give up without her having to openly tell you to leave her alone.
The good part is she may have been excited to meet you at first, maybe you're quite good looking but she lost interest.
However, among other single indicators, a woman's smile really essentially means nothing except that she's not furious at you-usually. They do it as automatically and unfeelingly as you do when you pull out your dick to take a piss.
Only pupil dilation can't be hidden and can't be faked.
My guess is she was staring because you have natural good looks, but that's not something you earn, it's just given to you. Relationship oriented women demand more than that usually-- they want real or well-acted emotional submission to them, or at least the hope of it.
Something went wrong. One [wild] guess: You yourself said think acting like a dick is the way to deal with women. If she is a
nice girl, one of the rare Americans who isn't a stuck-up, sheep-like, shallow bitch (they do exist) she probably wants to
be treated affectionately, and if she sensed your anger, coldness, fear, and/or contempt, she realized you are a dead end relative to what she wants. Remember, they're not smart as in engineer-smart, but they're superior in intuition in most cases.
Women who like you and have a real reason they can't make a date always suggest an alternative meeting time and/or place.
Haven't you noticed how flat out and eager they are when they really say yes? "I'd love to," they say.
Excuses, especially a totally,totally false sounding one like this, without a alternate offered is at least 98% of the time a way to try to get you to give up without her having to openly tell you to leave her alone.
The good part is she may have been excited to meet you at first, maybe you're quite good looking but she lost interest.
However, among other single indicators, a woman's smile really essentially means nothing except that she's not furious at you-usually. They do it as automatically and unfeelingly as you do when you pull out your dick to take a piss.
Only pupil dilation can't be hidden and can't be faked.
Man, you are putting way too much effort into this girl. Your mistake was when she didn't answer your call and you text her an hour later, you're showing you're desperate. I can see it, and I'm damn sure she can see it as well. This girl has to already know that you're all hers, which means she doesn't need anything more, she's through with you. She already has you at her fingertips. Hate to say it man, but you've blown it. Spend your time looking for another girl because this girl is pretty much no an option anymore.
Quote: (10-23-2010 02:42 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:
Quote: (10-23-2010 08:34 AM)newb69 Wrote:
What do you think?
You asked what we thought, and you've got some awareness you're being gamed--blow-off game--so I'm going to be blunt in the interests of speeding up the end of your self-deception. Please excuse any harshness.
The particular blow-off you've gotten (My guess: You're totally, 1000% blown at this point with this woman, ho hope at all) is not important except how it shows the huge amount of inner game work/personal development you need to do before you can be happy.
On one hand, you claim to be succeeding with women by "being a dick", on the other, this girl is 1000% screaming by her actions that she wants nothing to do with you. She works to make up what sounds like a total lie to avoid you. But instead of cutting your losses and moving on you're fixating on her-- actually not on her, but on a fantasy image of her that likes you. The real girl does not.
This inability to admit/unwillingness to see/unawareness of what you actually want (someone who actually likes you?) and to see what is actually happening in front of you ( someone who does not actually like you) shows you are lost in a bit of a fantasy world. Not a good place from which to game women.
You either need to fool yourself more completely and act like the "dick" you wish you were, or gain awareness of yourself so can admit what you want and go after it.
I agree with this 100%. And this guy keeps pming me and asking me all this advice and when I give it to him he basically says, "Nuh uh, I think I should do this, and I think what you are telling me is wrong." I'm like dude, don't ask me for advice if you aren't going to take it and disagree with me.
Come on kid, cut your losses and spend your time and energy on prospects that are gonna be more lucrative.
I used to be like that too. The problem is we can tell him all the advice there is but that's not going to help him. It's going to take some time to sink in. Like my buddy said, "If you are asking a bunch a question how to game a particular girl, you already lost her". You're just all excited because she is pretty and she hasn't given it up. And she won't, which will attract you even more to her.
Don't make the mistake of asking her out until she says yes. I tried that, I literally asked out a girl 20 times over a 3 year span.
Let me give you some life advice. Chicks will always be difficult, don't spend several hours a day about fantasizing about her, or the next chick you meet, use that time more effectively. Start working out, you might not have a gf in a year but at least you'll be athletic. Open a savings account, you might not have a gf in a year but you'll have some money saved up.
You get the picture.
You're in the right place. It's better to learn game than to be frustrated the hell out with every chick.
Don't make the mistake of asking her out until she says yes. I tried that, I literally asked out a girl 20 times over a 3 year span.
Let me give you some life advice. Chicks will always be difficult, don't spend several hours a day about fantasizing about her, or the next chick you meet, use that time more effectively. Start working out, you might not have a gf in a year but at least you'll be athletic. Open a savings account, you might not have a gf in a year but you'll have some money saved up.
You get the picture.
You're in the right place. It's better to learn game than to be frustrated the hell out with every chick.
I've posted questions along these lines here before (asking for advice re: ONE particular girl)..
and guys told me to drop her.
They were right.
And the longer you hang to your fantasy the harder it'll be to shake loose later. The difference is that you'll have wasted a ton of time and energy. Not have what you want. And moreover it's an opportunity cost. You could've been gaming other women. It just really f's up your self-esteem and game to pine like this.
If that doesn't convince you, another way to look at it, is that if you EVER want to get with her, the best thing you can do is to forget her and really not care. And guess what, when you really achieve that, is when she will come for you. The beautiful part is that you probably won't give a F at that point.
and guys told me to drop her.
They were right.
And the longer you hang to your fantasy the harder it'll be to shake loose later. The difference is that you'll have wasted a ton of time and energy. Not have what you want. And moreover it's an opportunity cost. You could've been gaming other women. It just really f's up your self-esteem and game to pine like this.
If that doesn't convince you, another way to look at it, is that if you EVER want to get with her, the best thing you can do is to forget her and really not care. And guess what, when you really achieve that, is when she will come for you. The beautiful part is that you probably won't give a F at that point.
I do believe your all right. I am a little obsessed. It's funny though because yesterday I wanted to fuck this bitch and now I hate her with a vengeance and wouldn't even be interested in going out with her if she changed her mind. Maybe it's because of ego and she rejected me and I want to do the same. Still can't seem to understand why she gave me her number and seemed excited about giving it. I guess she just wanted attention right and it makes her feel good to reject me?
Quote: (10-24-2010 04:50 PM)newb69 Wrote:
I do believe your all right. I am a little obsessed. It's funny though because yesterday I wanted to fuck this bitch and now I hate her with a vengeance and wouldn't even be interested in going out with her if she changed her mind. Maybe it's because of ego and she rejected me and I want to do the same. Still can't seem to understand why she gave me her number and seemed excited about giving it. I guess she just wanted attention right and it makes her feel good to reject me?
First, you being obsessed is killing your game, and she can see you're obsessed, I'm sure. It's also making you delusional. It doesn't matter how obsessed you are, it's never gonna change the way she feels, except maybe for the worse. Second, you hating her with a vengeance is your downfall. Instead of looking at it like she's a fucking bitch, you need to step outside the box and look at what you did wrong so you don't make the same mistakes in the future. Don't over analys, but there are obviously some ways you went wrong. You definitely made her think she was too important/ too good for you.
It's just very frustrating to get a number, get the impression that the girl is interested, then ask her out (twice) and she says no, indirectly, both times.
You are lucky that guys are giving you good advice and telling you to drop this and move on.
Just be cool.. there's no need to hate her, or react strongly like that. It's ok for someone to be attracted to you and then not.
The quicker you give this up, the faster you can bounce back and the better you'll be.
And the more you hang on, the more you'll feel foolish later, still Peinot have the results you want, and your game will be really messed up, and that much harder to recover.
Do something positive like someone posted above earlier.. take a month off, work out like crazy, just go with the flow, force yourself not to think about her, and eventually when you're ready come back, and try to game girls that are hotter than the one you like. You can make that your goal, to get a girl that is hotter than this one...
Just be cool.. there's no need to hate her, or react strongly like that. It's ok for someone to be attracted to you and then not.
The quicker you give this up, the faster you can bounce back and the better you'll be.
And the more you hang on, the more you'll feel foolish later, still Peinot have the results you want, and your game will be really messed up, and that much harder to recover.
Do something positive like someone posted above earlier.. take a month off, work out like crazy, just go with the flow, force yourself not to think about her, and eventually when you're ready come back, and try to game girls that are hotter than the one you like. You can make that your goal, to get a girl that is hotter than this one...
I'm at a bar currently on my cell phone, was talkin with this chick, excellent KINO, went for the number and got shot down, now she's back with her friends. I'm not done yet, just givin some time, she's into me, but now gotta make her want me more., I do this by now ignorin her, I'll go back at another time. She says she don't give her number out due to previous relationships, I'll update at this story continues... point is IGNORE EM!!!
Yes, but this bitch gave me her number, that's what's so frustrating!! It's not like I asked for the number and got a no. Where I failed is giving her too much value.
Yeah it's frustrating -- get over it. I've been in the same boat...
Have you read BANG??
If not, buy it, read it. THat would be a constructive use of your time for sure.
There's a classic line that is good internalize: numbers mean absolute sh-t.
Once you learn that lesson, you will never forget it.
Have you read BANG??
If not, buy it, read it. THat would be a constructive use of your time for sure.
There's a classic line that is good internalize: numbers mean absolute sh-t.
Once you learn that lesson, you will never forget it.
Stop calling her a bitch, and stop hating her. She didn't really do anything wrong. You showed desperation and neediness, and she lost interest fast.
Stop being pissed off at her. It's holding you back. Instead, use this experience to learn from your mistakes and do better with the next chick.
We've all been rejected by chicks we really wanted. It happens. But, bounce back.
Stop being pissed off at her. It's holding you back. Instead, use this experience to learn from your mistakes and do better with the next chick.
We've all been rejected by chicks we really wanted. It happens. But, bounce back.
Just for your information, a number doesn't mean much nowadays.
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You lost a battle, but not the war. -Napoleon
So what do I do tomorrow and the next day and for the rest of the year when I see this girl in class 10 feet away?
Ignore her, but not rudely (don't show bitterness). Act as if nothing had happened between you 2, and be even friendly, in a pure platonic way. It might reverse the ante.
You need to learn to control yourself & your feelings.
Also theory and practice goes together, so slow down your posting in this thread...
You need to learn to control yourself & your feelings.
Also theory and practice goes together, so slow down your posting in this thread...
Quote: (10-24-2010 06:06 PM)newb69 Wrote:
Yes, but this bitch gave me her number, that's what's so frustrating!! It's not like I asked for the number and got a no. Where I failed is giving her too much value.
Dude, if this is the first girl that has given you her number and blew you off, you are either one lucky son of a bitch or you aren't getting enough numbers. I've had 2 girls give me their numbers this weekend and not answer. I'm not bitter towards them though.
I don't get it.. why am I lucky if she blew me off...
The point I'm trying to make, IT'S NOT THAY BIG OF A DEAL!!! Go out and get 3 more girls numbers!
"So what do I do when I see this girl in class everyday?"
Casually ignore her. Who fucking cares.
Casually ignore her. Who fucking cares.
Also, did you read the forum guidelines? We don't want "This one girl," stories on here.
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