[TheRookie]

(08-15-2013 06:57 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 12:39 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

For all the talk about being "alpha" I'm surprised so many people are concerned what a girl (that's not your girlfriend) is throwing her poon at.

If we're going by that; alphas in the animal kingdom maintain a harem of monogamous females and will attack and fight any male that tries to mate with their women, see silverback gorillas. Although human sexual group dynamics/behavior is likely incomparable to most animals.

When it comes to humans, kings, which we can consider "alpha" had big monogamous harems and concubines. I don't think it's unreasonable to care, it's probably an in innate trait.

I wouldn't believe the notion that kings had/have monogamous harems and concubines. If you read the Kama Sutra it gives you tips on sleeping with the king's harem without him knowing. These women usually had lovers, especially the lesser wives who don't see attention. It also talks about the women in the royal harem dressing in men and fucking each other with objects.

[TheRookie]

I've never caught a girl cheating but I could look back and pick out the ones who were likely monogamous. They were:

1. shy, not much social life and didn't drink much alcohol.
2. saw me as higher value (especially those who had never been with or grew up around white Anglo guys)
3. sexually inexperienced and I was the first to really fuck them the right way
4. slightly insecure about themselves
5. from a more traditional culture where sluts are shamed and women are submissive

This is a good article from a while back on girls who are likely to be more faithful:

http://boldanddetermined.com/2012/11/29/...shy-girls/

[baristabanger]

(08-19-2013 05:56 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(08-18-2013 02:50 PM)baristabanger Wrote:  

For example. I'm seeing a girl fairly regularly from rural Alabama that I picked up at a wedding reception. She's 20, very petite, but with like the craziest ass on a 5'2" frame you've ever seen. Our second time meeting up was at her place, where she invited me over to cook me shrimp boil. She's very traditional in the Antebellum south sort of style in that she rarely curses and takes kindly to compliments. I can guarantee if I looked in her phone, I'd find plenty of dudes talking to her, but none actually fuckin her, it's not her style.

I wouldn't be so sure about that at all. Yes, these type girls are more feminine and traditional in some ways, but they fuck just as often and quick as any other girls on average-they just play the good girl very well.

My Florida beach town gets a lot of its tourist business from people from small Southern towns and cities. You should see the sort of behavior these girls get up to when they are here and away from family, friends, church and their boyfriends or husbands back home.

Banging guys the night they meet them, banging multiple guys in the same week, parking lot BJs, threesomes, bisexuality, gangbangs, outdoor sex, wild drunkeness and drug use, fighting, I've seen or heard of it all from these girls.

You make a good point here. Sounds like I'm just naive when it comes to southern charms, it is a breath of fresh air though up north here.

[HonantheBarbarian]

(08-13-2013 03:20 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Clear your texts and the like.

A friend of mine showed me an app for android that lets you hide messages and alerts from certain contacts. It places them into a secret "folder".

I like, i'll find it and post it in a second. Keeping that stuff private is hard.

Can you post more info about this app?

My girl is a major undercover snoop, and I don't want to dig through the dizzyingly large android marketplace.

[Vaun]

Before I found the forum my last ltr told me she got texted by a guy once. She brought it up during an argument, when she was trying to move in to my place. She didnt understand that imessage also worked on her ipad. That night she let me use her ipad and I saw all of her texts. Of course I looked, and of course I read all of them and she was texting back, nothing sexual but definitely flirty. I immediately kicked her out and broke up with her that night. Literally, 11pm at night, I told her to get out and take her stuff, and she left and who knows where she went.

[RXB]

Not phone related, but I think it still kind of fits into this thread.

While fooling around in bed with a girl this morning I looked over and saw that she had a huge whiteboard for writing appointments and the like on it. It read: " Dinner date with [Some dude]" and had a bunch of hearts around it.

[MidniteSpecial]

I found a condom inside a girl once. Was fingering her and felt something. I'm like, "what the fuck... Is this?"

Pull it out she turns bright red and I just smacked it on her face and told her to get out.

Pretty funny looking back.

[Mr. Butterworth]

I've never tried to look in a chicks phone. nor do I care to see whatever scandalous shit she has in there.

been around long enough to know they can't be trusted.

like my older sister once told me "everybody is doing some type of dirt" . fin

[pheonix500000]

(11-23-2013 07:55 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

I found a condom inside a girl once. Was fingering her and felt something. I'm like, "what the fuck... Is this?"

Pull it out she turns bright red and I just smacked it on her face and told her to get out.

Pretty funny looking back.

hahaha, stuff like that is what you'll remember years from now

[alphaspiraton]

Um I don't think that was a condom. There's a birth control method which is a rubbery ring that a girl puts in the vajina for 3 weeks at a time. It's roughly 2 inches wide.

[lavidaloca]

(11-24-2013 12:19 AM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

Um I don't think that was a condom. There's a birth control method which is a rubbery ring that a girl puts in the vajina for 3 weeks at a time. It's roughly 2 inches wide.

It would be hilarious if thats the actually what happened!

I have 2 experiences with finding out girls were "cheating" or atleast flirting with other guys.

1) Found a youtube video of a guy making out with my gf at the time...what are the odds of this? I'm surfing youtube checking out nightlife videos in a city I had started to spend a lot of time in and boom this recent video pops up. The giveaway was that she was wearing an article of clothing which I had bought her...hence, it wasn't filmed prior. The best part is me and the guy became buddies after when we met a few months later by coincidence.

2) Found a text asking for another gf saying that he gave her time and left her space for her to think and reconsider...

Not sure when in this 2nd case he was pounding her and she ditched him or b) he was an orbiter. I asked her who he was and she insisted she never fucked him. Not sure if true, I didn't particularily care as this was pretty on in the relationship at that time.

[Isaac Jordan]

I understand where guys are coming from when they advise not looking at a girl's phone/FB/etc. Ignorance is bliss. But often (and this is especially the case with younger guys like myself), seeing the ugly truth right before your eyes can really help "kill the beta" within.

I dated a girl semi-seriously my last year of college, and most nights out we'd end up back at her place. She lived with five other sorority girls, all of whom I knew from our social circle, and eventually it got to where I sort of became an unofficial member of their group, and they'd relax their guard a bit whenever we were all hanging out. Saturday and Sunday mornings after a night out were the most illuminating, as the girls would get together over breakfast to discuss their adventures from the previous night.

I'd generally sit back and listen to the conversation most of the time, throwing their hamsters a bone or two when I knew they'd appreciate it. I made it clear that I wasn't one to judge, and once they realized I could be trusted, it was like the floodgates opened. If I hadn't taken the red pill a year beforehand I have no doubt I would have been scarred for life.

These girls were like social Rambos. Finely-tuned seduction machines, fully loaded and apt to use every weapon at their disposal to get what they wanted. Beautiful, but cold and calculating as any man I've ever met. I gained a new respect for the opposite sex after hearing their stories.

One girl had mastered the art of using betas to do everything from her homework to her laundry, using what I came to call the "abusive boyfriend" technique. She'd tell these nerdy betas from class sob stories about how how badly her boyfriend treated her, how she was so wracked with anxiety and depression that she just couldn't focus on her homework or chores or whatever the hell she just didn't feel like doing that day. And these white knights would step up to the plate, offering to help out however they could, thinking that this was their chance to prove their worth against the evil boyfriend.

And she'd dangle that carrot in front of them just long enough to get what she wanted, before throwing out a well-rehearsed story about how the bf finally got his act together, apologized and now they were happier than ever. But thanks for handling that physics lab, she really appreciated it!

Another girl (a self-proclaimed "foodie") would use online dating websites to score free meals. I remember hearing her and her fuckbuddy cackling through my gf's shared wall one night, as she had convinced the chump of the day to send her home with an entire extra entree, which the fuckbuddy promptly devoured. This same girl managed to ace her chemistry class by blowing her TA after the lab each week.

(I still remember her hamsterization: "I could either study five hours a week and get a B, or I could blow this guy for ten minutes after lab and get an A. I'm just being efficient here.")

Yet another girl might have been the biggest slut I've ever met. I remember her elation one morning when she remarked that she had finally fucked every fraternity president at the school. I joked that elections were coming up soon and that she'd have to start all over. Her reply? "Challenge accepted".

Another girl I had initially pegged as a classic "good girl," only to find that while she did indeed desire a relationship, she also desired a solid rogering every other night. So while she'd attend Sunday church services and charity events in the hopes of finding "the one," she'd also utilize a rotating stable of thugs to fill her up whenever she needed some action. God forbid she sleep with her nice guy on the third date, lest he think her a slut. Better to keep him wanting while getting plowed by the fuck buddy until the relationship prospect had fully committed to her.

So yeah, needless to say after that last year I became pretty damn jaded. I've lightened up a bit since, but like I posted in the "catching feelings" thread, I've learned to reserve my emotions for specific times. I know I can't help but develop feelings, especially for the more beautiful women I date, but I know that's all they are-feelings. And it's much easier to control them when I know that they're not based on reality-they're based on a blue pill dream world that I desperately wish existed but know never did and never will.

So while I now stay far away from phones and Facebooks, I definitely think it helps to get a taste, especially when you're first starting out. Some guys need to see it to believe it.

[Icarus]

(11-25-2013 04:37 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

I understand where guys are coming from when they advise not looking at a girl's phone/FB/etc. Ignorance is bliss. But often (and this is especially the case with younger guys like myself), seeing the ugly truth right before your eyes can really help "kill the beta" within.

That post would make an awesome RoK blog post.

[Grit]

(08-13-2013 06:18 PM)soup Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 05:45 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Wait a minute guys!

I thought girls were "hypergamous," that is, they only seek out ONE guy.

The nerdy game bloggers are saying one thing.

All of our personal experience points in the other direction. Namely, women are polygamous. One alpha dick is not enough. These women need multiple dicks.

Perhaps some of these game bloggers have been "out of the game" or a while? Or perhaps they were always "embellishing"?

This thread is something to consider next time someone says that women are hypergamous...

Mike, I thought hypergamous meant that women are always going for the better thing, not the one thing.

You got the common definition of hypergamy, but it seems as if 'the better thing' can happen in the time span of 24 hours. Like 'oh he didn't call, I guess he hates me. Who is the next hottest?'

[lavidaloca]

I find in all the relationships I've had that the first few months I just assume they are fucking other guys. This has proven to be true in just about every relationship I've had. The first time I was phazed beyond belief. I was a pussy crying myself to sleep. The 2nd time I thought, well here we go again, I'd given a couple alternative rogerings myself to other chicks. The 3rd time I thought, thats cool, I've been knee deep in other pussies the last few months as well.

Any guy who is actually dating hot woman and thinks none have ever cheated on him is delusional. It really isn't a big deal. I combat this by considering the first 3 months a probationary period. In the sense that after 3 months if I want a relationship with her, I'm blunt and say look I don't care if you've been with other people the last 3 months but we can be exclusive now or continue as is. I believe this has resulted in increased fidelity but is there really anyway I'd ever know if Manuelo gave a good rogering to my gf one night while I was in another city. NO.

Guys tend to feel more strongly into girls before girls get into them. Honestly, until you've been together for a significant amount of time say 6 months or so who cares if shes been with other guys. You should've been playing the field yourself.

I think you really need to see it to believe it.

[kinjutsu]

Love this thread.
I've got a few 1st hand ones to share and one 2nd hand story to share

About 7 years ago i met this girl off pof. We hit it off and started seeing each other regularly. She asked to be exclusive and thought I'd give this a try. 2 months later she's sleeping in my bed and her phone's notification light keeps flashing (black berry). I try to ignore it at 1st but i decided to check it out. Turns out she was fucking this wannabe gang banger since before her and i met. I was pissed because i met him and shook his hand. I didn't let on that i knew. 2 weeks after i got a ride home from her best female friend. She blew me in her car and i tore it up that night and the next day. At the same time my "gf" was fucking the other dude.
Eventually i grew tied of her lies and dumped her. She told me about how she's been sleeping around on me etc. Then i informed her how i knew and how I'd been tearing all her girlfriends.

This happened last year around this time.
I met this girl also from pof. She was cool at 1st but gave me an ultimatum that we be exclusive or we'd stop fucking i said cool. I entered the relationship with an internal time limit for myself.
After about a month she started acting really sketchy. Then one night she offered to give me a ride home when we didn't have plans to meet up. I said sure. That night she slept over. During the night her phone kept vibrating and waking me up. So i grabbing the phone and it was about 5 different dudes sending dick pics and talking super dirty.
She was definitely fucking them. I also checked the browser history and discovered she was on a fetish sec website called "Fetlife".
And her inbox had about 30-ish messages from dudes.
I woke her up and spoke with her about it and she broke down crying blaming me saying she did it because she was angry with me.
In hindsight i should've kicked her out but it was late and i was tired.
About a week later i bang out one of her friends who hated my guts. I ran into her at a bar and she was drunk took her back here and tore it up like i bought for 50% off.

My friend was dating a girl that most guys would consider a solid 8 without make-up.
They had been together for nearly 4 years at this time.
He was strongly considering marrying her. I told him to check her phone.
He said he respected her privacy and trusted her etc...
I told him then there's even more of a reason to check, and to make sure she feels the same way about you.
So one night he took her phone but couldn't nut up to check so he called me to meet up for coffee.
We went through her phone and were just floored by how much dick she was entertaining.
She was fucking athletes, cops, lawyers, people he worked with, her boss, guys at the gym etc...
The 1st thing i said is get yourself tested bro.
That night he kicked her out.
Now he's engaged to a sweet girl who isn't a unbound slut.

[horn]

(11-23-2013 07:55 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

I found a condom inside a girl once. Was fingering her and felt something. I'm like, "what the fuck... Is this?"

Pull it out she turns bright red and I just smacked it on her face and told her to get out.

Pretty funny looking back.

Pretty sure it's called a NuvaRing.

[reaper23]

(08-14-2013 07:41 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 01:55 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

I'm not gonna lie, deep down inside I want to be in a LTR with a "good, traditional" girl but I know it isn't possible in this day and age.

yes there are man, don't let yourself get jaded.

there really are, especially if you can handle them well. deep down inside the women want the same thing too. they want a man who can handle them, lead them, fuck them well, and they will largely return it to you the way you want.

i'm almost 40. been married and divorced. banged countless women. traveled the world. i feel like i've seen it all. and i'm in a relationship with a woman who is ten years younger than i am, gorgeous, takes care of herself, cooks every day, has her own awesome job, has given me (another) beautiful child, fucks me every single which way I want whenever I want (three years in), and even on occasion lets me fuck other chicks with her blessing.

ok maybe that last part isn't traditional but i like it.

remember, how the women act is largely up to you.

and fellas, if you KNOW that a chick you're banging is actively fucking other dudes, you need to come to the conclusion that you're not giving her what she needs/wants and its your game that is slacking.

when i've been dating four and five girls at a time, they all without fail are monogamous to me while i'm banging other chicks. hell, even my long term girl when she had a two month window to fuck whoever she wanted, didnt even as much as hold hands with another dude.

be The Man, and they will naturally be monogamous to you because why would they want to eat some shit pie when they can just wait a few days and have gourmet?

this is even if you don't ask them to be monogamous to you.

I'm here to eat crow and admit that I found out my LTR was cheating on me. told me she had done it a few times. She even told me that during the period I reference in the above email, when we both had carte blanche to be with other people - she did and lied about it. which is cheating. bitch found a way to cheat even in an open relationship.

gotta say that my red pill education needed a refresher and here it was.

we broke up a couple of months ago and i'm back in the game with an endless supply of young hot bodies to bang. literally more than i can possibly keep satisfied right now, which is ironically, what keeps them coming back for more.

i knew this thread was lingering out here and wanted to make sure i owned up to it.

so there it is.

even reaper got cheated on.

me and Idris Elba.

amazing

[Every10GivesMeA10]

tough luck man

[AntiTrace]

you took it like a man reaper.

Dumped her, owned up to your mistake, and moved on.

Pride probably took a bit of a hit, but I bet those young nubile bodies are nursing it back up to where it used to be.

Situations like that are why game is so important. Had that happened to a typical beta with no game he would have been devastated. His entire life would have been shattered. Some may have even committed suicide.

Game saves lives.

[kaotic]

an old ex ALWAYS deleted her texts "it makes my phone slow"

Being the beta that I was, i creeped her FB, read her diary, and eventually caught her up in texts.

Her FB messages were super flirty, even asking to hangout with a guy, a TON of beta orbiters, she was just so damn thirsty for attention, no one man would ever keep it. Her diary didn't mention any guys, but made me realize women are fucking CRAZY.

and guess what....I stayed with her after finding out all that like a beta bitch.

Her texts was even better, we were in Vegas and I saw a text pop up while she was in the shower so I read it, she was flirting hard with this guy. So as soon as she walked out of the shower I threw her phone in a full tub. Told her to pack her shit and go home and that I was staying in Vegas. I had SOME balls back, but I bought her a new phone and paid for her ticket home. Best investment I ever made, and she got a BF a month later lol.

Here's the kicker....about a month ago she calls my work to get ahold of me and my number. She comes to my work regretting everything, then talking about how the sex was great and she misses me so much. Wanted to hangout that night , clear DTF, (I had an HB 8 i was hanging out with and my ex had hit the wall). I said no , but we could hangout later, never happened. Turns out....she was still with her BF haha.

Just shows you hoes ain't faithful.

Like Isaac said above, "It killed the beta"

[reaper23]

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

you took it like a man reaper.

Dumped her, owned up to your mistake, and moved on.

Pride probably took a bit of a hit, but I bet those young nubile bodies are nursing it back up to where it used to be.

Situations like that are why game is so important. Had that happened to a typical beta with no game he would have been devastated. His entire life would have been shattered. Some may have even committed suicide.

Game saves lives.

ha. literally the day the ex moved out, i had a 25 year old spend the night.

its like i never left the single market. i mean, i didnt really, but here it is right back to the way it was in a blink.

[Travesty]

Thanks for sharing Reaper, this story reminds us, especially younger guys to stay aware at all times.

[LaserBear]

(08-19-2013 08:34 PM)soup Wrote:  

(08-18-2013 01:17 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

reapers definition of cheating is spot on.

If there is no expectation of monogamy, cheating by definition can not happen.

Cheating is when your girlfriend bangs a dude that isn't you without your permission. Cheating is not a fuckbuddy banging a dude behind your back without your permission, that is just called life.

Based on that, it is very possible for a player to never have been cheated on. I'm my last LTR I am 100% confident she never cheated. In my previous one she may have cheated on me during the last month of our relationship when I was already working my exit strategy, at which point I didn't care regardless.

If your not exclusive, your not getting cheated on.

The concept of cheating can be co-opted to play with girls.

To me, cheating happens when someone breaks a rule.

If you don't make a rule, then it can't be broken.

That said, you can make a whole joke relationship with the girl for fun that has all these stupid goofy rules that are impossible for her to keep.

Like every time you get a whiff of one her farts, you get to "viking rape" her or whatever. This is great because you can blame her for farting even if she hasn't, and then proceed to "viking rape" her ("rape" in quotes because it's something she's already agreed to).

Also, making rules can be form of roleplay like you guys have been a couple for a very long time. You can be creative with the rules to sexualize the conversation with a girl you've just met very quickly.

I don't like that viking rule one bit...end up with a pavlonian response where she farts when she's horny, or you get a boner anytime you smell shit.

Definitely like making rules with girls though.
Have a well established rule with my long term fuck buddy where I smack the back of her head anytime she's rude or bitchy.
She loves it (she actually thought of the rule after a "omg I need to stop, bitchiness is like a reflex" type comment of hers), and its always fun to thump someone's head.

Not sure if she thought I'd enforce it... but I sure as hell have haha

[YoungDominican]

(11-25-2013 04:37 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

I understand where guys are coming from when they advise not looking at a girl's phone/FB/etc. Ignorance is bliss. But often (and this is especially the case with younger guys like myself), seeing the ugly truth right before your eyes can really help "kill the beta" within.

Yeah , There was this girl that was starting to look like LTR material to me, she started making me think that maybe she's 'special' and such. Then she left her Facebook logged in on my phone and I see her sending nudes for guys and asking for dick pics. I've got to say it made me laugh, because I almost went for it.