[The Beast1]

Clear your texts and the like.

A friend of mine showed me an app for android that lets you hide messages and alerts from certain contacts. It places them into a secret "folder".

I like, i'll find it and post it in a second. Keeping that stuff private is hard.

[Pyre]

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

[CactusCat589]

I've had the urge to look at someone else's phone or Facebook before, but haven't acted on it. It is an interesting idea, though. A minute just to confirm for yourself whether your perception of your judgment/character-reading skills match up with reality.

[The Beast1]

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

Yeah i don't get it either.

I had one girl flake on a guy after meeting him for me later on in the evening. I wasn't too pleased with that, "Oh i'm the second best?"

Don't trust 'em.

[DjembaDjemba]

This might come off as 'blue-pill', I'd rather not fucking know, nor do I really care. Too much information, like teen girls say "TMI".

[j r]

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

That dude is probably saying the same thing about you.

There are two ways to go about this. Either you say this is my jump off. She doesn't mean anything to me and I don't care what she does. Or you demand that women you fuck only fuck you. You have to know yourself well enough to know which way is right for you.

[soup]

(08-13-2013 03:44 PM)j r Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

That dude is probably saying the same thing about you.

There are two ways to go about this. Either you say this is my jump off. She doesn't mean anything to me and I don't care what she does. Or you demand that women you fuck only fuck you. You have to know yourself well enough to know which way is right for you.

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

[Pyre]

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

[j r]

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:44 PM)j r Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

That dude is probably saying the same thing about you.

There are two ways to go about this. Either you say this is my jump off. She doesn't mean anything to me and I don't care what she does. Or you demand that women you fuck only fuck you. You have to know yourself well enough to know which way is right for you.

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

I once heard a story about guy wearing a white crew neck undershirt under his dress shirt who got laid. I think it's just an urban legend though.

[soup]

(08-13-2013 04:02 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

Anyone else here notice this as well?

[rudebwoy]

(08-13-2013 04:02 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

There is so much truth to this statement, girls tend to end up with the most needy guy or the guy who chased them the most.

Alot of girl's have insecurities(like us) and cannot handle a guy who has too much going on. On a recent date, a girl freaked out because i go to the gym 3x a week and play soccer 2x a week.

Everytime I have seen the ex of a girl I was dating, it has always been in amazement.

[MrXY]

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:44 PM)j r Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  

Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

That dude is probably saying the same thing about you.

There are two ways to go about this. Either you say this is my jump off. She doesn't mean anything to me and I don't care what she does. Or you demand that women you fuck only fuck you. You have to know yourself well enough to know which way is right for you.

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

Drugs

It's shocking the guys girls will fuck if those guys are supplying them with drugs

[Pyre]

(08-13-2013 04:19 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

Drugs

It's shocking the guys girls will fuck if those guys are supplying them with drugs

Unfortunately that's an oversimplification. In many cases yes, but it doesn't explain maybe 50-75% of the other cases.

[Kingsley Davis]

(08-13-2013 04:02 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  

Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

Don't underestimate the tenacity and patience of orbiters. Any myriads of reasons she's conjured up to be pissed at you, beta schlep is there to validate her every whim and before you know it....it just happened. Now he's in rotation on her carousel.

[Lufty]

could these lamer guys be more provider types or ego boosters? If she is resentful that she can't get a full serving of alpha she might keep something on the side to take her to nice places or be an emotional sponge?

[Pyre]

(08-13-2013 04:40 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Don't underestimate the tenacity and patience of orbiters. Any myriads of reasons she's conjured up to be pissed at you, beta schlep is there to validate her every whim and before you know it....it just happened. Now he's in rotation on her carousel.

This is what I've noticed - one time they end up fucking their orbiters who then enter rotation.

Does anyone practice orbiter game here? Or are the risks (one-itis, too much time) not worth the payoff?

[horn]

1) Drugs
2) Drugs
3) Drugs
4) Girls dig hipsters. I don't know what to tell you.
5) Size queens
6) Beta Orbiters who get lucky enough to enter the rotation when she is between alphas.

[Ensam]

I no longer look at girls phones. I trust my instincts now, if I feel like she's doing something shady there's no need to look at a phone to verify. That said the few times I've known the other guys girls I'm hanging with are fucking I've generally been shocked at the lack of quality. When I've pressed girls on it the usual answer is they were lonely/vulnerable and the dude was there. Once a girl has fucked a guy once she'll likely go back again regardless of the quality just because he's a known entity. That's why things like logistics are so key - when a girl is open to sex you've gotta make it as easy as possible.

Orbiter game can work if you can remain detached but your frequency is going to be much lower than if you focus on developing an attractive persona and physique.

[Dagonet]

First of all, what the fuck are you guys talking about with this beta-orbiters-and-fat-omegas-fucking-your-girls bullshit?

Obviously your perception of the situation is wrong. If she's fucking him, there IS a reason. He exerts dominance, alpha traits or mastery in some arena, likely the one she originally met him in. Perhaps they've been fucking a long time, and he's maintained hand while letting himself go. It happens.

I'm sure there are girls out there who go slumming when they're horny, but it is repulsive to a girl to let a guy fuck her unless he meets a certain level of attraction, in some category. This is a biological mechanism that can only be subverted by deep psychological issues.

****

Moving on. If your phone is password-protected, you shouldn't have much to worry about, unless you're married.

I went out with this sweet chick on Friday, and as we were laying in her bed at the end of the night, I saw her flip through her phone, and I noticed that she had 17 new notifications on Tinder, haha. But I'm sure there is way worse shit than that on her phone.

[MikeCF]

Wait a minute guys!

I thought girls were "hypergamous," that is, they only seek out ONE guy.

The nerdy game bloggers are saying one thing.

All of our personal experience points in the other direction. Namely, women are polygamous. One alpha dick is not enough. These women need multiple dicks.

Perhaps some of these game bloggers have been "out of the game" or a while? Or perhaps they were always "embellishing"?

This thread is something to consider next time someone says that women are hypergamous...

[soup]

(08-13-2013 05:45 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Wait a minute guys!

I thought girls were "hypergamous," that is, they only seek out ONE guy.

The nerdy game bloggers are saying one thing.

All of our personal experience points in the other direction. Namely, women are polygamous. One alpha dick is not enough. These women need multiple dicks.

Perhaps some of these game bloggers have been "out of the game" or a while? Or perhaps they were always "embellishing"?

This thread is something to consider next time someone says that women are hypergamous...

Mike, I thought hypergamous meant that women are always going for the better thing, not the one thing.

[soup]

(08-13-2013 05:10 PM)Dagonet Wrote:  

First of all, what the fuck are you guys talking about with this beta-orbiters-and-fat-omegas-fucking-your-girls bullshit?

Obviously your perception of the situation is wrong. If she's fucking him, there IS a reason. He exerts dominance, alpha traits or mastery in some arena, likely the one she originally met him in. Perhaps they've been fucking a long time, and he's maintained hand while letting himself go. It happens.

I'm sure there are girls out there who go slumming when they're horny, but it is repulsive to a girl to let a guy fuck her unless he meets a certain level of attraction, in some category. This is a biological mechanism that can only be subverted by deep psychological issues.

****

Moving on. If your phone is password-protected, you shouldn't have much to worry about, unless you're married.

I went out with this sweet chick on Friday, and as we were laying in her bed at the end of the night, I saw her flip through her phone, and I noticed that she had 17 new notifications on Tinder, haha. But I'm sure there is way worse shit than that on her phone.

I agree, but watch your language if you want to stick around here. Roosh just wrote a thread about keeping the peace on the forum.

[la_mode]

Maybe in the past they did. Now, because of sheer availability of single men in the US (not far off China) combined with all dating sites, facebook, tinder, etc, it's a revolving door of options literally 24/7 for most women, even fat.

Also, smartphones can keep them constantly logged in.

[soup]

I wonder if the rise of digital connectivity has caused the great wave of sluttiness we are experiencing, or if it is just an expression of the innate sluttiness...

I think about dogs who can be trained to attack. They have the potential to conditioned that way, but aren't neccessarily born as fighters.

[reaper23]

if you can see 5 guys that she is fucking or has fucked and you think you arent just like them, then you are deluding yourself