[fman]

(01-02-2011 03:44 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  

Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole. Anyway it has its pluses and minus' as darker people are often seen as less wealthy by Mexicans. So while being black they won't really like you, you are still far and away less likely to be jumped/robbed/etc. Prosti's will also charge you about $20 more and some won't do you at all.

There was a guy here(can't remember who it was now) that did a trip report on Monterrey and said it's pretty good for black dudes. Monterrey has a lot more of the Spanish-blood Mexican girls, btw. Might want to look that thread up for info.

I don't have any experience approaching in Mexico, but my guess from what I know of Mexicans is that it probably would be a more challenging place for the bruddas. I'd avoid the smaller towns where it's more traditional. I think the best shot is going to be the larger more cosmopolitan places like Mexico City which has immigrants from all the world and Guadalajara. You'll find people with freer lifestyles and not so confined by tradition. When I was in Puerto Vallarta, I met this African dude that was on vacation with his Mexican girlfriend. He was a French teacher living in Mexico City.

Mexicans are pretty racist, but like most Latins, I think it's more of a colorism per se than a hard racism like you see with neo-nazis. The racism is Latin America is really weird. They can be racist, but still be friendly to the people they are racist against. I know a Peruvian woman whose mom would flip if she married a black guy, yet her mom is completely sweet toward me and I'd never guess she thought that way. I think it has to do with wanting their kids to be light-skinned since being dark in Latin America is associated with being socially and economically disenfranchised. Anyways, I wouldn't let it stop me, there are definitely Mexican girls that are open to it as you will find people in any society that don't mind crossing the color line.

Yes sir..that guy would be me. Here is where I posted: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1513.h...=monterrey

[obsidian_jaguar]

(09-27-2010 09:45 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

URM, When are you planning on going to Mejico and how long are you staying? I have had the experience of tasting sweet Mexican nectar and it was quite an experience. She was more on the indigenous side face and skin color wise but she had a Black girl's body. She was from the Yucatan peninsula where I once read there was a lot of mixing between Indians and Black slaves. So, don't believe the hype that the only good looking Mexicans are the ones who are predominantly White like telenovelas actresses. I have even seen full blooded indigenous Mex chicks with banging bodies in New York but they tend to hit the wall hard as soon as they turn 19. The only place in Mexico that I have been to was Cozumel, I wasn't too impressed with the local talent. Almost all the girls there were shaped like Square Bob Square pants.

Indigenous face??? Black body??? Sounds like heaven for real...
How did u meet her?

[germanico]

(09-26-2010 08:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Mexicans are very racist in general, especially against natives, but also against blacks, jews and arabs as well, but mostly in a mutter-it-under-your-breath kinda way.

Not true. Many will try to make fun of/with you, but no one will hate on you or give you a hard time. And most of it will be the awkward uncomfortable type of jokes.

Nobody will mess with you, specially if you are the stereotypical tall muscled black guy. And many girls will try to get to know you, specially if you are the stereotypical tall muscled black.

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The only place in Mexico that I have been to was Cozumel, I wasn't too impressed with the local talent. Almost all the girls there were shaped like Square Bob Square pants.

Mayan girls are more of the exotic type of beauty. Either you like them or not at all. But their body type tends to be short and stoutish, with square shoulders and plain butts. Not my cup of tea, but definitely interesting. Wouldnt mind having one of them feeding me mango slices while the breeze gently swings my hammock.

[JayMillz]

Considering the amount of black-on-black crime in the USA, blacks may be safer in Mexico.

[MidWest]

Alright. I know this is late but here it goes. As a Mexican American myself I know hands down that people in the Mexican community in America have a very bad image of blacks. Im not denying that, but that mentality is only exclusively in the United States. In Mexico on the other hand it is completely different. Brothers will do very well in Mexico. There are virtually no blacks in Mexico at all, I think ive only seen one from all the times ive been there but in the airport. That alone will make you exotic to the girls there. Trust me take a visit down there, they are curious about Black American guys. I cannot tell you how many times ive been asked by the women down there about black americans. A lot of them like rap and think the whole gangsta black thing is cool. Theyll be asking me "Do the black guys like Mexican girls?" and questions of that nature. Its no myth, from my experience girls would love to meet a black guy. Trust me.

When it comes to the guys there is a problem. A lot of them are very territorial with their women. If you notice a lot of Mexican girls have hickies all over their necks. Mexican dudes lock the women up. In the end they will be jealous and hate but really wont do nothing. You might get a lot of stares and people might point to you and say "negro", but its more about curiosity than discrimination since many people in Mexico have never seen a black guy before. Dont be surprised if women approach you.

Now I do think that black Americans should go to 2second tier Mexico Like Monterrey, maybe guadalajara, etc... Avoid Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico City. Theres too many tourists there and not much of an exotic factor. I think I should start a thread about brothers in Mexico.

[elabayarde]

(09-28-2010 11:36 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(09-27-2010 09:13 PM)whosyourdaddy Wrote:  

Things would be a lot different for you if you spoke excellent spanish and had a latina mentality. I have seen this with my own eyes. Blacks from spanish speaking countries who are "latinized" are seen as "brothers". Or at least they seem a lot more friendly to them.

I disagree, I speak fluent Spanish and are very attuned with pop cultural and politics of several Latin American countries and I can tell you from experience of traveling thru Latin America for years that the most success I had with Latinas in Latin America is pretending that my Spanish was barely conversational and that I am unfamiliar with her country. Asking her how you pronounce something in Spanish was a excellent way to open them and gauge their interest in the Black cock. If she ignores me, is mean or indifferent I move on to the next one but if she's friendly I know I got her.....

The key is to distinguished yourself as much as possible from Local Blacks this includes local Blacks who live in the US but go back to their native countries on Vacation. Latin America isn't like Europe and the US where the media basically encourages young White girls to fuck Black dudes. Fucking the local Blacks in Latin American countries its extremely frown upon. In fact, in countries where there is a sizable population of indigenous Blacks(pretty much every country in LA except Salvador, Chile and Argentina) its very common for parents to tell their little girls that the worse thing they can ever do is fuck a Black man. However, there's is a loop hole, African American men are technically considered Gringos just like White men are. Thus, daddy told them not to fuck Black men but he didn't say anything about fucking Gringo Black men.

I have not heard this articulated this well before. Its %1000 percent accurate. The minute you get the... wait. Your not american... GAME OVER.
im actually thinking of hitting Monterrey in a couple months BTW. I got some business to handle down there.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

@MidWest: thanks for the honesty. You aren't saying anything us American blacks didn't already know, but at least you have put away the political correctness! Almost everyone tries to act like we're making it up, making excuses or imagining things. I have been around enough American Latinas to know that, based on they're looks vs mine, they should have been in love with me! Yet, they acted as if I was somehow beneath them. It's obvious they are either worried about dating us or have actually been indoctrinated not to like us.

I haven't shared this story with too many people, because I can't fully believe it happened myself. But 15 years ago I went to a religious convention in Mexicali, Mexico. It was at a bullfighting ring. Actually, I never even went inside. Myself and a couple of other black guys just stayed by the entrance and when the people filed out, no less then 25 Mexican girls came up to us to shake our hands and yelling "hola hola". Girls were literally speaking their head out of the car waving at us and yelling "hola!" It is the closest I have ever gotten to feeling like a rockstar. For the life of me, I don't understand why I never went back there to repeat that experience. I guess on some level I didn't want to ruin the memory by going back there and the same thing not happening again. Again, more beta thinking. This was before I had learned anything about game. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I can co-sign everything you have said in your post. It is 100% correct!.

[BTman]

Haven't read all the replies so excuse me if I'm beating a dead horse.

This is solely from the few days I spent in Mexico city but hot, rich girls didn't seem to think too much of me. (I'm brown) The lower end girls didn't seem to mind. But I think there might be more racism towards black people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mem%C3%ADn_...ial_issues

I remember seeing quite a few street performers being in this character. Seems like it might be hard to pull for black guys if this kind of mentality is prevalent.

[MidWest]

(02-03-2013 09:33 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

@MidWest: thanks for the honesty. You aren't saying anything us American blacks didn't already know, but at least you have put away the political correctness! Almost everyone tries to act like we're making it up, making excuses or imagining things. I have been around enough American Latinas to know that, based on they're looks vs mine, they should have been in love with me! Yet, they acted as if I was somehow beneath them. It's obvious they are either worried about dating us or have actually been indoctrinated not to like us.

I haven't shared this story with too many people, because I can't fully believe it happened myself. But 15 years ago I went to a religious convention in Mexicali, Mexico. It was at a bullfighting ring. Actually, I never even went inside. Myself and a couple of other black guys just stayed by the entrance and when the people filed out, no less then 25 Mexican girls came up to us to shake our hands and yelling "hola hola". Girls were literally speaking their head out of the car waving at us and yelling "hola!" It is the closest I have ever gotten to feeling like a rockstar. For the life of me, I don't understand why I never went back there to repeat that experience. I guess on some level I didn't want to ruin the memory by going back there and the same thing not happening again. Again, more beta thinking. This was before I had learned anything about game. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I can co-sign everything you have said in your post. It is 100% correct!.

Yeah. The thing about American Latinas specifically American Mexicanas is that if a Black guy spits good game to her she will be receptive, dont let her fool you, shes down! But its the community that will basically cockblock you. Kind of like in the movie Next Friday where Ice Cube goes up to the Mexican girl. Mexican girls are all about Familia, and they will listen to their parents, brothers, cousins who will almost kill her if she even thinks about bringing home Raheed for instance. They wont even dare to rebel against their papi. So you are right about them being worried to date you. Its possible but you will have to go through all those obstacles.

In Mexico on the other hand the people are very very different. Even Mexicans in Mexico dont like us Mexican Americans. I think that Mexican girls in Mexico are down to earth. I think your story is 100% completely believable because it happened to me as well. If you are in anyway exotic women will approach themselves. Its very different than in any place in the world that ive been but I like that about them. If a Mexicana likes somebody they will appraoch them and are very outgoing. If you are good looking the girls will scream hello, lots of them will whistle at you and wave at you. But I cannot stress this enough. If you are a good looking brother, with style, and speak a little bit of Spanish, you will kill in second tier Mexico. A lot of the girls are very curious about black Americans. If you are down there in the future let me know the insight. But I recommend you go down there again.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

I have been thinking about going again. I'm just not sure which city, especially with all the violence. I keep hearing good things about Monterey, but there's a part of me that wonders if I shouldn't try to go overboard and just stick with Mexicali, where I experienced that incident.

[Belize King]

I am headed to GDL this month. Loved it last year. Ive spoke a out it a few times but hit me up if you want to know anything.

[speakeasy]

I have a friend that just moved down to Mexico City so I'm wanting to go down and visit by spring. While I rarely run into personal problems with Mexican-Americans, I'm well aware of their views towards blacks, which is amusing given how bad Americans in general view Mexicans(as illegals, dirty, corrupt, criminals, etc). You'd think they would know better.

Yeah, Mexican guys can be haters. The only time I went deep into Mexico it was Puerto Vallarta. I went down there with two long time female friends of mine, both of them are what you might call white Latinas. And man, those Mexican dudes were rubber-necking left and right.

[Screwston]

(02-04-2013 01:56 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

While I rarely run into personal problems with Mexican-Americans, I'm well aware of their views towards blacks, which is amusing given how bad Americans in general view Mexicans(as illegals, dirty, corrupt, criminals, etc). You'd think they would know better.

Please don't act like it's a one way street speakeasy. If you're from LA, you should know it's the EXACT same way with blacks towards Mexicans. You'd think they know better.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

The race thing in general is rather amusing when I think about it. I can totally understand someone not liking a certain race for aesthetic reasons, as I am not fond of Australian aborigines for instance. However, there's nothing in this world that makes me think I'm better than an aborigine! From the drawings and pictures I've seen, I don't think Einstein or Sir Isaac Newton were attractive, but I don't feel I'm better than them. If I happened to find a real cute aborigine, I would date her and introduce her to all members of my family without a problem, feeling no shame. I feel racism is mostly based on thinking someone is ugly. I think that's the root of it. Why that would translate into feeling superior on a intellectual or moral scale is beyond me. And the skin color thing is really wild. How skin color still affects how people view you on an genetic level is crazy with all the understanding of science and anthropology that society has gained over the last 100 years or so. I can see someone in 1625 thinking lighter is better, but now?? "Hi, I am lighter than you, so that makes me better. Yes, I literally can't stand in the sun for any length of time without rubbing white lotion all over myself, but still, I'm better." Crazy! Better looking? Valid opinion. Better? Ridiculous.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(02-04-2013 02:38 AM)houston Wrote:  

(02-04-2013 01:56 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

While I rarely run into personal problems with Mexican-Americans, I'm well aware of their views towards blacks, which is amusing given how bad Americans in general view Mexicans(as illegals, dirty, corrupt, criminals, etc). You'd think they would know better.

Please don't act like it's a one way street speakeasy. If you're from LA, you should know it's the EXACT same way with blacks towards Mexicans. You'd think they know better.

I think the problems between Mexicans and blacks in LA is the fault of the government. Naturally on a historic level the government hasn't care too much about the comfort of blacks. They allow, and I do mean allow, millions of illegal aliens to pour into the country, knowing damn well that they're going to have to live in the poorer parts of whatever city they go to. Unfortunately, these areas are historically black. As someone who was living in LA as a child in the early 70s when this was happening, it was really strange to see these people appear almost overnight, not speaking the language, and not seeming interested in trying to learn to fit in. Not to insult anyone, but I can remember the very day when I could no longer leave my Big Wheel outside. I can remember watching someone bump into my mother with a shopping cart, and they not say a word of excuse me, even in Spanish. And yes, I can remember her getting ghetto and cursing the lady out. Still, as an adult I now realize it is a cultural thing, and not necessarily their fault. Our government should've taken into account that millions of poor people immediately showing up into an already depressed and resource depleted area was going to bring about problems. However, since they were coming from a racist point of view, obviously they weren't in the "Let's make sure the black citizens are comfortable" business. What made matters so much worse, is just what Midwest has indicated. It became very clear to most blacks that Mexicans look down on us. Why would you move someplace where you know a bunch of a certain kind of people are, and then act as if you hate them? Anyone actually living out there can tell you that the problems start from Mexicans disliking blacks, not the other way around. That isn't to say that heinous things haven't been done by both parties.

[americanInEurope]

Spent 3 weeks in DF and I didn't feel any hostility at all. Like anywhere you gotta be aware of your surroundings. But I didn't feel any hate coming from the local dudes, and nothing but love coming from the local chicas. A lot of guys down there use to live in the states and moved back (cause the Mexican economy is actually getting better) or got kicked out. So they speak English. If you're rolling solo it's probably a good thing to 1) stay at a decent hotel. One with bellboys and shit. 2) befriend those bellboys and have them tell you nice places to go club/bar wise. If you can have them take you out to one. 3) Watch your surroundings. Don't be going to some shady ass in the alley type of place. Just practice good judgement like you would any other place.

But no, they have no specific hatred towards black guys. I felt like a celebrity there, with young pretty girls wanting to take pictures with me. I spoke no Spanish so I couldn't pull It's def. one of those places where money transcends race. If you look money, they'll treat you accordingly.

[Screwston]

A lot of people from both sides both hate each other. Don't act like all blacks are open minded saints who embrace everyone because you know that's not true. By the way, I'm talking about Mexican Americans. A lot of those gangs out there hate blacks with a passion though. I know bloods and crips had to align together because of that shit lol. The whole thing is retarded, racism wont ever go away

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(02-04-2013 05:36 AM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Spent 3 weeks in DF and I didn't feel any hostility at all. Like anywhere you gotta be aware of your surroundings. But I didn't feel any hate coming from the local dudes, and nothing but love coming from the local chicas. A lot of guys down there use to live in the states and moved back (cause the Mexican economy is actually getting better) or got kicked out. So they speak English. If you're rolling solo it's probably a good thing to 1) stay at a decent hotel. One with bellboys and shit. 2) befriend those bellboys and have them tell you nice places to go club/bar wise. If you can have them take you out to one. 3) Watch your surroundings. Don't be going to some shady ass in the alley type of place. Just practice good judgement like you would any other place.

But no, they have no specific hatred towards black guys. I felt like a celebrity there, with young pretty girls wanting to take pictures with me. I spoke no Spanish so I couldn't pull It's def. one of those places where money transcends race. If you look money, they'll treat you accordingly.

Where is DF?

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(02-04-2013 05:43 AM)houston Wrote:  

A lot of people from both sides both hate each other. Don't act like all blacks are open minded saints who embrace everyone because you know that's not true. By the way, I'm talking about Mexican Americans. A lot of those gangs out there hate blacks with a passion though. I know bloods and crips had to align together because of that shit lol. The whole thing is retarded, racism wont ever go away

Yeah, I'm speaking specifically of situations in Los Angeles. I don't know the black and Mexican relations elsewhere. Like you said, it got so bad that bloods and Crips, mortal enemies, actually banded together! Also, in other parts of the country's blacks and Latinos don't have the same type of warfare with each other. Not to say there aren't problems, but I don't hear news coverage the way I do about the LA situation. Trust me, I know blacks are not saints, but generally speaking we are always looking for an ally. Considering we are socially on the bottom of the totem pole, it only makes sense that we tend to embrace others, while others reject us. That doesn't make us saints, it's just a social situation that tends to happen.

[bacon]

im an expat living in mexico. in the past year i saw maybe 4 black people. one african girl, a black guy, and a black couple. ive seen afro mexicans occasionally(maybe 10 in the last year) but they dont look like african americans.

mexico is not that dangerous except in the border cities which do have high murder deaths. but even a close examination of those deaths show that it is almost exclusively murders against other criminals, journalists and local police(military). the biggest problem blacks face is some racism and no political correctness which is typical of mexico. if you dont like being called negrito or something to that effect it could be a problem. but you need to get over that. i am called guero(white guy) by practically everyone but its not an offensive term and neither is negro or negrito. but for all the falts of mexico the biggest plus is that people here leave others the fuck alone. i have no business walking through some neighborhoods or going to certain local bars but i am left the fuck alone unless i am looking for problems. btw i can be a pretty audacious drunk but that still has not gotten me in trouble. the cartel element is a real thing, not something you canwish away, but my experience those guys are not violent and will likely invite you for a round of drinks if they find out you are an american. shit, some of the craziest parties i have been to were thrown by cartel members(think naked girls in hot tubs, piles of cocaine on the dinning room table and a random grandma walking around with an AK47)

in summary, mexico is in many ways like the US or many countries in the americans in that it has a diverse population of many different peoples. while dark skin is not prized here the same way white skin is many mexican women(i dont know the figures but even 2% is like a million women) have a fetish for black guys. but unlike the US there are not many black guys here so if you catch a girl eye fucking you during your stay here you likely have an in. i would avoid border towns(for safety reasons) and tourist towns as your exotic factor would be greatly increased.

[americanInEurope]

(02-04-2013 06:37 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(02-04-2013 05:36 AM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Spent 3 weeks in DF and I didn't feel any hostility at all. Like anywhere you gotta be aware of your surroundings. But I didn't feel any hate coming from the local dudes, and nothing but love coming from the local chicas. A lot of guys down there use to live in the states and moved back (cause the Mexican economy is actually getting better) or got kicked out. So they speak English. If you're rolling solo it's probably a good thing to 1) stay at a decent hotel. One with bellboys and shit. 2) befriend those bellboys and have them tell you nice places to go club/bar wise. If you can have them take you out to one. 3) Watch your surroundings. Don't be going to some shady ass in the alley type of place. Just practice good judgement like you would any other place.

But no, they have no specific hatred towards black guys. I felt like a celebrity there, with young pretty girls wanting to take pictures with me. I spoke no Spanish so I couldn't pull It's def. one of those places where money transcends race. If you look money, they'll treat you accordingly.

Where is DF?

Distrito Federal = Mexico City

[americanInEurope]

(02-04-2013 07:56 AM)bacon Wrote:  

im an expat living in mexico.

mexico is not that dangerous except in the border cities which do have high murder deaths. but even a close examination of those deaths show that it is almost exclusively murders against other criminals, journalists and local police(military). the biggest problem blacks face is some racism and no political correctness which is typical of mexico. if you dont like being called negrito or something to that effect it could be a problem. but you need to get over that. i am called guero(white guy) by practically everyone but its not an offensive term and neither is negro or negrito. but for all the falts of mexico the biggest plus is that people here leave others the fuck alone. i have no business walking through some neighborhoods or going to certain local bars but i am left the fuck alone unless i am looking for problems. btw i can be a pretty audacious drunk but that still has not gotten me in trouble. the cartel element is a real thing, not something you canwish away, but my experience those guys are not violent and will likely invite you for a round of drinks if they find out you are an american. shit, some of the craziest parties i have been to were thrown by cartel members(think naked girls in hot tubs, piles of cocaine on the dinning room table and a random grandma walking around with an AK47)

in summary, mexico is in many ways like the US or many countries in the americans in that it has a diverse population of many different peoples. while dark skin is not prized here the same way white skin is many women have a fetish for black guys. but unlike the US there are not many black guys so if you catch a girl eye fucking you on your stay here you likely have an in. i would strongly recommend non border towns and non tourist towns as your exotic factor would be greatly increased.

Yeah I kinda feel like I experienced the travelers high or whatever you call it. I was there for a short period, living and walking around in Zona Rosa with other wealthy looking gringo's, and generally not really experiencing what it'd be like by myself for months at a time. I'm sure they've got their own set of problems there to overcome. Just saying, the short period of time I spent there, I never felt that I couldn't just walk up to people and say hi. Compared to other countries where I just got an instant vibe of standoffishness. Mexicans in DF seemed like the most down to earth people.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

@MidWest: Taking into consideration safety, which cities would you recommend a black guy going to for maximum girl potential?

[MidWest]

(02-04-2013 08:52 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

@MidWest: Taking into consideration safety, which cities would you recommend a black guy going to for maximum girl potential?

I say you should do Guadalajara. Ive never encountered any problems while there last time I went. I absolutely love Guadalajara. The food is great, the culture is awesome and the women are hot! There is debate that says that Guadalajara has the best looking women in the country. I will be there this summer in June. I have family down there.

You should also consider a smaller city so you can tap into your exotic factor like Guanajuato city, Guanajuato which I know there is a good thread on that city here. Also maybe Queretaro, Cuernavaca, Leon which I think are all safe cities in my opinion. As long as you stay away from the border cities its all good.

I know you mentioned Monterrey which is also a good place for hot women but I dont recommend it for safety. But also keep in mind that I know people who still go there but I would stay away. Its just me though.

[Kish]

@MidWest: Do mexican chics have ASS? Are they thick?