[Sonsowey]

(07-26-2013 03:27 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

Yeah, the whole word is is idiotically redundant. What next, complaining about things being humancentric?

Watch out for "human-bodied"

[JayRock604]

I had a gay guy say to me just this week "you breeders are all the same" like it was an insult when I refused to "hug" him goodbye like I was the girls and instead went for a hand shake... I just thought now would be an appropriate time and place to share.

[nguyenimproved]

Saw this awesome post on Roosh's twitter feed.

(07-26-2013 12:37 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

I really miss the days when all the homosexual people stayed in the closet and I didn't have to hear about homo shit in the media 24/7. It's seriously fucking annoying, and you can't escape it. It's everywhere. You literally have to avoid all popular media: television (especially), movies, internet and radio to prevent being bombarded with programming that glorifies the homosexual lifestyle. There is literally no pushback to this shit anymore in our culture. Even most of the religious groups have given up and embrace or at least tacitly accept the homosexual culture.

I find even most red pill guys have been conditioned to accept this. You hear things like, "Live and let live, it doesn't affect you, blah blah."

But that's just not true anymore. Maybe it was true when they were all in the closet. But certainly not now when homosexual shit is openly glorified in our culture and media on a daily basis.

As a heterosexual man, I see no reason why I should tolerate homosexual culture. I find it disgusting and degenerate. I don't think it has a proper place in a healthy society. A society that glorifies feminized men fucking each other in the ass is sick at its core. I really think it fucks up the minds of kids who grow up and see this kind of shit as normal. Men are men, women are women, men fuck women. Men and women get married and raise children together in a family. That's normal. That's what society should be demonstrating and glorifying, not homosexuality, which is inherently degenerate and unnatural.

Look what I just wrote. Where the hell else do you see anyone saying anything like that these days? Nowhere. But that has been the prevailing opinion toward homosexuality for centuries, save the past two decades or so. What the hell happened? Why is everyone suddenly so accepting of this? It's straight up media brainwashing.

Personally, I say it's time to push back against this nonsense. I don't give a fuck about offending people or hurting someone's feelings. I am anti-homosexual. I think that culturally embracing homosexuality is all-around terrible for society on many different levels. I see no reason why I should "accept" something that has zero benefits and numerous drawbacks. This is not a personal thing. I don't hate homosexual individuals. I just am strongly against a public homosexual cultural influence.

By the way, you will notice I do not use the word "gay". This is intentional. Those pushing the homosexual agenda understand the power of words in shaping narratives and molding public opinion. "Gay" is a much more palatable word than "homosexual". A "gay" man sounds nice and friendly. On the other hand, the word "homosexual" leaves nowhere to hide. It's someone who fucks a member of the same sex. Homosexuals know that image is inherently repugnant to normal people, as it should be. Words have power, and I refuse to go along with the homosexual newspeak.

I encourage all red pill men to erase the word "gay" from their vocabulary and replace it with the more accurate "homosexual". Use it in conversation and you will notice that people find it strange, and maybe even slightly offensive. Why? Because they've been socialized for years to hear "gay", "lesbian" or "LGBT" instead of the brutally honest "homosexual". They need to be slapped in the face with the truth: their country's culture has been enormously polluted with the propaganda of a sexually degenerate minority, and their children are growing up in an environment where traditional families and sexual behavior are going extinct.

Holy Shit (-covered cock).
You put my exact thoughts into words so succinctly.
Down to the semantics of the innocuous sounding "gay".
This here post should be the Heterosexual Manifesto of any guy.
I have espoused the same thoughts but get jumped on for being "regressive" "medieval"etc.
Nowadays if you accept that fucking men in the rectum is a viable outlet for male sexuality you are somehow seen as a progressive thinker. Accepting men fucking other men in the anus is a now a litmus test to see how advanced and modern a culture is. Anything else is portrayed as backwards, hateful or anti-equality.
Too many people have been hoodwinked into thinking that supporting homosexuality is the same as being fair minded and supporting equal rights for all.
They homosexual lobby has pinned their shit smeared cocks on the equality bandwagon.

I've met a lot of homosexuals and I don't dislike them as people but the normalisation of this aberrant behaviour is insidious and corrupting.

Amen. (but not in Men)

http://www.youtube.com/user/nguyenimproved14

[soup]

My gay friends don't talk about this shit at all- they are mostly party people. Of course they want rights, but they don't get all in your face about it unless provoked.

Then they will throw-down like any other guy who is getting fucked with.

Actually, a lot of gay guys hate the same shit we hate- fat people, bad style, annoying bitches, etc.

They never bring up politics.

I think there should be a re-frame here..

We shouldn't be against homos. I don't care if some guy does whatever he wants with another guy- leave me out of it. We should be against bad taste- making stupid political signs, attention whoring, ignoring reality, etc.

I think most game is just advanced etiquette anyway.

[Ensam]

^^ That's been my experience too.

Gay dudes mostly just want to fuck other gay dudes. Most of them don't give a shit about transgendered folk. I think only 0.3% of the population is transgendered, they get way too much press.

[Vicious]

The funny thing is that you will NEVER catch gay men using this word or care much for the concept.

[gqntexas]

Here's my view on homosexual men.. The more, the merrier.. Think about it, the more gay dudes out there, the less competition for heterosexual men and more pussy for us.. If i remember my research correctly, something like 5 to 10 percent of men are gay (someone correct me if im wrong).. But just think if 30% of adult men woke up one day and decided to fuck other guys anuses, can you imagine how much easier it would be to fuck bitches?

[speakeasy]

(07-27-2013 10:44 AM)gqntexas Wrote:  

Here's my view on homosexual men.. The more, the merrier.. Think about it, the more gay dudes out there, the less competition for heterosexual men and more pussy for us.. If i remember my research correctly, something like 5 to 10 percent of men are gay (someone correct me if im wrong).. But just think if 30% of adult men woke up one day and decided to fuck other guys anuses, can you imagine how much easier it would be to fuck bitches?

But if 30% of men are born gay, that would would also likely mean that 30% of women would be born lesbians, so in the end it's a wash. Yeah, if 90% of men were gay and 10% of women were lesbians, yes, straight men would be in pussy paradise, but it don't work like that.

[Divorco]

(07-26-2013 12:19 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Sperm wasn't made to be used in some other dude's rectum.

Bad argument. It wasn't made for women to swallow either. I'm not here to fulfill a divine plan, evolutionary destiny, or make babies in a socially beneficial manner. I'm here to seduce hot women, period.

(07-26-2013 04:13 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

women want to be free to express themselves sexually without losing any cultural validation for their sexual identity.

Yes, and this is a good thing. As gays undermine the traditional exploitative marriage, single men will receive more social appreciation and sexual marketplace power.

(07-27-2013 03:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

if 90% of men were gay and 10% of women were lesbians, yes, straight men would be in pussy paradise, but it don't work like that.

There are more gay men than lesbians. Many women are flexibly bi, which opens the door to threesomes. So stop gay-bashing!

Let me go further. Women have been turned on by seeing gay guys at my parties. Gays guys make their bitch shields drop. When you have an open, tolerant atmosphere then women indeed feel freer to express their sexuality. It's like letting the handicapped kid play on a sports team, or letting the foreign-accented kid into the speech club. This creates an atmosphere where everyone feels comfortable.

Gay guys support promiscuity. They will take your girlfriend shopping and give you decorating and wardrobe advice. They have even been wingmen who helped me get hot girls at parties. It's great.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(07-26-2013 11:04 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

^^ That's been my experience too.

Gay dudes mostly just want to fuck other gay dudes. Most of them don't give a shit about transgendered folk. I think only 0.3% of the population is transgendered, they get way too much press.

Yep. We also need to acknowledge that there is a huge difference between gay men and lesbian women. Steve Sailor has written about his.

It's mostly lesbians, not gay men, who fill the colleges dreaming up this bullshit. There are no "gay male studies" departments but there are women's studies disciplines, which basically amounts to "we hate men and love ourselves." There is no gay male equivalent to this.

Furthermore, there is no all-encompassing "gay community." A lot of gay men despise lesbian women and vice-versa. While some gay men are Blue Pill, a lot of others feel the media and society is biased against them and favors lesbians -- and they're probably right.

Example: one of my relatives produced a high-profile TV show about gay men. When I simply asked him and his partner about a lesbian issue, they practically exploded with rage, saying what I just said above. They felt lesbians and the "LGBT" crowd were making a circus of important issues.

The word "heteronormative" is an example of that.

[Benoit]

(07-28-2013 02:44 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Yep. We also need to acknowledge that there is a huge difference between gay men and lesbian women. Steve Sailor has written about his.

This is the Sailor article, it's great.
http://www.isteve.com/lesvsgay.htm

Another nonsensical argument that's always made is that sexual orientation and gender are totally separate things, which instantly runs into problems because the exponents generally belong to LGBT clubs which explicitly links sexual orientation and transgenderism...

[DLZ]

I have no problem with homosexuals. Some of them are chill as fuck and wing like champs. Trust me, if a chick's gay friend vouches for you, YOU'RE IN.

You can't fight the decline of western civilization, so just roll with it -- poolside.

[Cynus]

They believe that all norms are "socially constructed" by the powerful to oppress and exploit others. So they think that saying that heterosexuality is normal is immoral. They are crazy. Biological norms are not socially constructed. It is normal for a heart to pump blood, that is what it was designed to do by evolution, that is its function. An abnormal heart is one that can't perform its function because it is deformed, diseased, damaged, or dead. This is entirely a matter of biology and evolution, not socially constructivism. Likewise, the function of sexual attraction is to bring male and female together to make babies; that is what sexual attraction was selected by evolution for its ability to do. Same-sex attraction is abnormal in the same what that a heart that can't pump blood is abnormal. However, this is an entirely different matter than saying that homosexuality is immoral. So, heteronormative, yes; anti-gay, no.

[Teedub]

I can only echo what other posters have said about Lesbians being more a problem with this shit that Gay men. I only know one or two gay men, and don't know any lezzers, but whenever this sort of "cis" "heteronormative", "gender queer" shit comes up on the net, it's always a woman doing the talking.

I agree with Cynus, homosexuality IS abnormal, of course it is! However it isn't immoral unless you're coming from an Abrahamic religious standpoint, which I'm not.

[Icarus]

(07-30-2013 02:25 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

I agree with Cynus, homosexuality IS abnormal, of course it is! However it isn't immoral unless you're coming from an Abrahamic religious standpoint, which I'm not.

Well, I really, really don't quite understand what morality is. Looks like many self-proclaimed atheists haven't rid themselves of Christian memetic trash. "Morality" is a what the weak exploit to tame the strong.

I don't care if homosexuality is abnormal or immoral. I find it repulsive, period. Even more repulsive than the sight of a morbidly obese couple. It subtracts beauty from the world. I don't give a shit if gays or fatsos exist, just as long as they exist far, far away from me.

[Teedub]

(07-30-2013 02:38 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

I don't care if homosexuality is abnormal or immoral. I find it repulsive, period. Even more repulsive than the sight of a morbidly obese couple. It subtracts beauty from the world. I don't give a shit if gays or fatsos exist, just as long as they exist far, far away from me.

I know what you're saying and when it comes to two blokes kissing, I do find it pretty horrible. However, the sight of two attractive women kissing turns me on, so I'd be being contradictory if I said I found homosexuality, as a whole, repulsive.

[The Beast1]

Guys,

I have a lot of friends that are gay and ironically happen to be very very red pill.

My one friend mentioned to me once that he get annoyed by the constant bombardment of the overly "fem" gay guy in the media.

They're just as annoyed by the crazy amount of narcissistic behavior that goes hand in hand with feminism. A few of them hate the stereotypes of the effeminate girl voice.

I would let them get married. As another poster mentioned, we need to fight this country's desire to have ones identity externally validated. That's the root of all of these problems.

Got nothing wrong with them. I just can't stand the overly fem flamboyant gay guys. In fact, many gay guys hate on them too. It's hilarious.

[cardguy]

Quote:

Tolerate.

tol·er·ate
/ˈtäləˌrāt/
Verb

1. Allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.
2. Accept or endure (someone or something unpleasant or disliked) with forbearance.

The dictionary defintion is interesting and out of whack with how we are taught to use the concept of 'tolerance'.

If you told a gay person at work that you would 'endure with forebearance' their 'disliked' out-of-work activities. You would be fired.

[cardguy]

Personally I don't care about the gays. Once people go after the gays - they will come after me and my weird sexual fetishes next.

[Teedub]

Cardguy, that example of tolerance is one I always bring up with lefties who always "preach tolerance" like that's a positive word. It's a pejorative word for putting up with something you dislike!

[Icarus]

(07-30-2013 03:10 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Cardguy, that example of tolerance is one I always bring up with lefties who always "preach tolerance" like that's a positive word. It's a pejorative word for putting up with something you dislike!

Quoting the great G. K. Chesterton:

"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions."

Those lefties know who has power. If they lived in Nazi Germany in the 1930s, they would all be convict nazis. If they lived in the USSR, they would all be members of the Komsomol. Besides being good at engaging in circle-jerks that make them feel morally superior to "unenlightened" rednecks, lefties are also quite good at betting on the strongest horse.

[Teedub]

^ Exactly, a lot of lefties believe in nothing, and that in itself is deemed a virtue. Look at multiculturalism (not multiracialism, which I have no problem with), it basically says 'I believe in nothing, so I believe in everything".

[Anon-A-Moose]

We should stress bdsm acceptance. I'll wear a bunch of whips and belts and carry rope around and demand acceptance and bare my chest for attention and post useless mindless bullshit on my non existent facebook.

Really who cares if you're gay? Mainstream society isn't making an issue about it, the people who bitch about it are making an issue about it. Hooray you can now marry and serve in the military. Will you next plead to be divorce raped or cockblocked? That's like going to a fancy restaurant off yelp that's trendy, plopping down your entire paycheck, and ordering a plate of arsenic. Be happy whatever your orientation, especially since it means i get more social validation from them & takes more guys off the market. Just don't jam it down my throat. Keep it to yourself like I keep my kinkiness to myself.

And please stop with the "leftie" bashing. Your generalizations aren't necessarily true, nor are they conducive to the manosphere. I happen to be a socialist, but a staunch social conservative, and a supporter of the red pill mindset.

[Wutang]

To the leftists, tolerance doesn't just mean letting someone do their own thing as long as they keep it from infringing on other people. To them, it means you have must accept and give lip service to whatever behavior or idea they are espousing.

I prefer the dictionary version. In a civil society, we have to put up with a certain amount of shit that we don't want to see simply because if we are always trying to stop each other from doing or saying things we find distasteful, there will be constant conflict. However, there's a world of difference between doing simply that and actively forcing people to not just put up with what you're doing but to alter their will and try to program them into approving and even favoring what you are doing. Look at gay marriage. The proponents of gay marriage don't want you to simply put up with gay marriage but they want you to approve it and view it as the same thing as a hetero marriage.