[kenny_powers]

Hating on LA has superseded hating on DC on RVF. Funny, this started after all the threads and posts about how much better Cali posters are than east coast posters....ha

Seriously, depressed in LA? Need a mood enhancer? Come to DC for a week....you will land back in LA all smiles.

[el mechanico]

My problem when I come back from other places isn't the women as much as the fucking POLICE!!! When everyones afraid to go out and party because we all drive then there's nobody left.

Turn off the police states and the puss will flow like wine once again.

[rudebwoy]

(06-30-2013 03:57 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

Hating on LA has superseded hating on DC on RVF. Funny, this started after all the threads and posts about how much better Cali posters are than east coast posters....ha

Seriously, depressed in LA? Need a mood enhancer? Come to DC for a week....you will land back in LA all smiles.

I too thought LA was the land of milk and honey, seems we have been sold a lie.

I recall speaking to a young man in Hungary, he was dying to move to California because he thought everyone lived in a nice house and drove an Escalade.

[speakeasy]

(06-30-2013 04:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I recall speaking to a young man in Hungary, he was dying to move to California because he thought everyone lived in a nice house and drove an Escalade.

Young fools. People watching way too many movies have bought into the hype. He has no idea that half this city looks like a third world country and we have the highest unemployment rate after Michigan. But these suckers think the streets are paved with gold and everyone gets a Barbie beach blonde the second they step off the plane. Sometimes I'll catch these reality shows based in L.A. and I feel like I don't even recognize the place they are showing on TV.

[thegmanifesto]

(06-30-2013 03:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-30-2013 03:40 PM)Hoodlum Wrote:  

(06-30-2013 03:06 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Meanwhile back in Eastern Europe his equivalent is drowning his sorrows in vodka wishing he was in LA.... just saying.

Until he actually goes there, and realises how good he had it within the space of 2 weeks, and fucks off back home again. I was only reading another thread on here the other day about the very issue.

Seriously. Some ugly, poor Gopnik in the FSU can still be banging girls that look like models. God help him if he had to compete for similar looking girls in L.A. He'd hang himself.

I remember thinking that when I was in Latvia.

Guys there with super hot girlfriends would get blanked for years on end in LA.

America does have it's advantages though.

[bigdrov1x]

Inland Empire in SoCal here. I can relate to the OP's concerns and comments. I am in the process of selling my house and getting out of this cess-pool that is SoCal. I was in San Matteo which is kind of like San Fran last year. I was eating out with some friends at a Fridays. The waiter asked where we were from, and we said SoCal. The waiter went like "oh" with a sneer. I have never in my life been reacted to that way before. Now as my eyes are opened more, I see just how screwed we are in this country. Whenever I would go out in the past, the bar or club was nothing but an endless parade of Iphone zombies. I mean its just absolutely ridiculous now. I quit going out a long time ago. For fun, I just go to the store and get some BBQ, and sit outside and smoke a blunt. The weed is actually the only good thing about Cali. People might say the weather, but it never ever changes. I never thought that I would actually miss seasons, and rain, and a good old thunderstorm, but I do. Myself, I am going back to live close to my family because that is where it is at as far as I am concerned. Going to develop my skills and try to get a location independent job( or die trying). I quit with bishes from here. The highs of bishes here just do not outweigh the lows of dealing with them. Better to just not get involved. That is our best recourse as men. Just do not get involved!!! If everybody, or just more, men would quit being SIMPs, the USA would be a lot better. I have lost all hope for my country though. Sorry for the ramble, and bad grammar. I just agree with the OP's take on things in the SoCal area. Also, does anybody bend the brim of their hat anymore? What is with a hat that is so big that it covers your ears? What is with everybody having to have "sleeve tattoos" out here(that goes for chicks as well. Jeans that sag below your arse? Dickies work pant and shorts for everything? The level of douchebaggery out here is just endless!!! Peace Out!!

[kenny_powers]

(06-30-2013 06:22 PM)bigdrov1x Wrote:  

Inland Empire in SoCal here. I can relate to the OP's concerns and comments. I am in the process of selling my house and getting out of this cess-pool that is SoCal. I was in San Matteo which is kind of like San Fran last year. I was eating out with some friends at a Fridays. The waiter asked where we were from, and we said SoCal. The waiter went like "oh" with a sneer. I have never in my life been reacted to that way before. Now as my eyes are opened more, I see just how screwed we are in this country. Whenever I would go out in the past, the bar or club was nothing but an endless parade of Iphone zombies. I mean its just absolutely ridiculous now. I quit going out a long time ago. For fun, I just go to the store and get some BBQ, and sit outside and smoke a blunt. The weed is actually the only good thing about Cali. People might say the weather, but it never ever changes. I never thought that I would actually miss seasons, and rain, and a good old thunderstorm, but I do. Myself, I am going back to live close to my family because that is where it is at as far as I am concerned. Going to develop my skills and try to get a location independent job( or die trying). I quit with bishes from here. The highs of bishes here just do not outweigh the lows of dealing with them. Better to just not get involved. That is our best recourse as men. Just do not get involved!!! If everybody, or just more, men would quit being SIMPs, the USA would be a lot better. I have lost all hope for my country though. Sorry for the ramble, and bad grammar. I just agree with the OP's take on things in the SoCal area. Also, does anybody bend the brim of their hat anymore? What is with a hat that is so big that it covers your ears? What is with everybody having to have "sleeve tattoos" out here(that goes for chicks as well. Jeans that sag below your arse? Dickies work pant and shorts for everything? The level of douchebaggery out here is just endless!!! Peace Out!!

When i lived in OC I used to call the 909 "Valley of the Dirt People". It used to be that if you found your niche in a beach town you can carve out a nice life for yourself. Unfortunately, Cali has peaked and the smart people are moving on. I also agree with the weather being boring. I'm in DC now - 4 seasons all that shit - I like the variety. If you want to be warm and people are more down to earth go to Florida.

[Belize King]

I think society in general are a bunch of followers. 10-20% of people make thier own realities but the rest follow whatever they think is hot at the time. How many tramp stamps do you see on under 25 yos? Now the 25-35 yos are stamped for life. The sleeves, snapbacks, and sneaker game will evenually fade out and come back again.

Create your own reality and drive to hit your goals. Find a way to make it to where you want to be.

[Kingsley Davis]

(06-30-2013 03:57 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

Hating on LA has superseded hating on DC on RVF. Funny, this started after all the threads and posts about how much better Cali posters are than east coast posters....ha

Seriously, depressed in LA? Need a mood enhancer? Come to DC for a week....you will land back in LA all smiles.

[el mechanico]

Kenny is right about Florida being more DTE. If you get anything even close to snubbed you have the right to publicly call anyone out on the spot. Totally unacceptable here.

[Blaster]

Quote:

Now, I do understand that WE SHOULD NOT TALK ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY ON DATES. Especially, first dates. However, it was my first night out after returning.

In my experience this is indirect enough not to matter. Depends on the company of course but I expect it comes of mostly as you relating an interesting true fact about different culture.

[kenny_powers]

(06-30-2013 08:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Kenny is right about Florida being more DTE. If you get anything even close to snubbed you have the right to publicly call anyone out on the spot. Totally unacceptable here.

I always had fun and did good in Dade and Broward. One of my best friends moved up to Tampa a a few years back and kills it up there. The pretentious level is nothing compared to parts of South FL (Aventura, Gables, Boca) and nowhere near the goofy b.s. you have to deal with the clowns out in Cali. I classify the average Florida white girl as a Casey anthony type. Always DTF and likes to party but kind of trashy and fucked up. However, Florida is not a place to game sober. It is party central.

[Galnuc69]

(06-29-2013 03:30 PM)AmateurGame Wrote:  

I am age 28. I have lived in Los Angeles my entire life. I have taken vacations, but none of this sort – 3 months in eastern Europe – 1 week in each Prague, Vienna, and Romania; 3 weeks in Krakow, Poland; 4 weeks in Budapest, Hungary; 2 weeks in Greek islands. What spurred this trip was the Roosh forums and do not regret it one bit – it kind of changed me. The purpose of the trip was just to be free, experience something new, live while young, travel, meet locals, and simply have a good time. The day of return to Los Angeles, I was disgusted. It was nothing new, but things in Los Angeles we are use to – the norm, but they just stuck out and were more apparent. Now, 2 weeks after return to Los Angeles, I can be clinically diagnosed with Depression.

The first person I see after getting off the 777 plane straight from Istanbul is obese. 3 months in eastern Europe, I saw probably 100 obese people – majority mid-life or elderly. I rarely saw a teenager or somebody in their 20s obese. The young population was tall and thin for the majority. In some parts of Los Angeles, you can see 100 obese people in 5 minutes. Even in Beverly Hills, where people eat better because of excess money, there is so many overweight and obese. It shows how much fast food, frozen food, and processed food people consume here in combination with lack of exercise. That further comes down to bad economy. The more money somebody has, the more likely they are to eat well. They will go to restaurants rather than fast food; they will buy fruits and vegetables instead of frozen pizza. Also, because public transportation systems are fantastic in eastern Europe, people walk more. In Los Angeles, people get in the car from point A to B; thus, less physical activity. What pisses me off the most is that these fast food corporations including McDonalds, Burger King, etc have migrated to eastern Europe. It's fucked up because they have fucked people in America with garbage. In the past 5-10 years, they have expanded to Europe. Eastern Europe is a bunch of tall, thin, and healthy young people; in 10 years they will all be fucked because these American corporations are there now.

We get to the international check in area to provide passports and check luggage, it literally took 1.5 hours from the time we got off the plane till we exited the airport. Los Angeles is so over populated that it's disgusting. Then traveling from Los Angeles Airport to the San Fernando valley (20 miles) took about 1 hour. Driving anywhere takes about 2 to 3 times longer than it should. Rush hour is not 8-10am and 5-7pm anymore; rush hour in Los Angeles is 7am-7pm and it gets worse as years pass.

The next day I go to the car wash. It is at a gas station. I go inside to pay the teller. A girl walks in; she looks Persian and she is driving a $100k SUV. She does not ask the attendant, but demands, “refresh the pump. It does not work. I have a baby in the car.” No please, no thanks, harsh and negative attitude. As she is walking out, in a low voice I say, “fukin persian girls”. 2 African-American guys inside hear me and concur. That would not happen in eastern Europe. People have respect. The way she spoke was like she was above him, better than him. Why? Because she is good looking and rich? Well, she's not rich – the guy she married is. I can go on for hours regarding the negative attitudes of people in Los Angeles; the shady ways; how friends scum each other for money.

Now, getting to the girls.

A few days after returning, I'm kind of dry in the girl dept. My cousin has a girlfriend and we decided to do a double date. I pick them all up and we go to a mutually decided restaurant. We have conversation, getting to know each other. While looking at the menu, I notice that a beer is fucking $9. To myself, I'm just in awe; like “wow”. They buy a beer for $1 at most. Even at a 300 or 400% return, it should be no more than $4. How the fuck are you going to charge $9 for some shit you bought for less than $1? Anyways, I briefly bring up just the fact. “In eastern Europe, beers were about $1.50 and mixed drinks were about $4. It's crazy how it's $9 here.” That's all I said; nothing more, nothing less. Now, I do understand that WE SHOULD NOT TALK ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY ON DATES. Especially, first dates. However, it was my first night out after returning. It was something I noticed. If I was alone with a girl, I wouldn't have said it, but my cousin was there too...so I was kind of telling him about it. After the restaurant, I suggest a bar a few minutes away. My cousin has been dating the girl for a year and the girl I was with, was his girlfriends best friend; so he knew her well. They started having a conversation about somebody I didn't know about. I'm kind of like wtf because I had no way of being a part of the conversation; I didn't know the person or situation being referred to. I said, “since I don't know about the person, can we talk about something else.” They agreed, changed the subject. 5 minutes later, they were speaking about some other friend and situation. I asked, “what is her name?” “what happened”. They answered the name, but basically they were not involving me in the conversation. I tried to be a part so I'm not lame and quiet, but it didn't happen. There was a movie playing, I was watching that while they were talking about some BS drama. The next day, I speak to my cousin. He states, “she didn't like you because she thought you were cheap.” I paid for her dinner even though she put her CC in front of me. I offered her a drink at the bar. She didn't order. I poured her ½ of mine. Just by one statement I made, I am cheap. Please note: she is a 22yo Persian girl. I'd rate her a 7.5. I later spoke to one of my girl friends who knew her. She said, “that's funny that she thinks you're cheap because she is so cheap herself. Her family is suing their relatives over something.” Money, filth, and disgust is all that comes to my mind. I will move on...

I go out the next Saturday night to the Library Bar at the Redbury hotel. A pretty chill place with a good amount of girls on Fri/Sat evenings BTW. I popped 3 Xanax, so I'm chillen. This girl initiates me and seems to have a super cool personality, so I end up spending the night speaking to her. She was probably a 6. She is somewhat attractive, but not a girl I want to spend to much time on. Just to fuck and bounce. She tells me shes Iraqi and starts busting out religion talk. I tell her the truth and say I'm not religious and that I'm agnostic. We talk the next day and she gives me all this BS that she is Jewish blah blah. Our first date goes well. Our 2nd date, she pretty much tells me no sexual stuff below the neck until it's bf/gf status. So pretty much I'm stuck with a 6 who is not even super attractive plus doesn't even want to fuk until I spend probably 1.5 months developing it. WTF????? After contemplating the next day, I realize I'm sick of my guy friends in LA anyways and I'm down to kik it with somebody new a couple days per week, so why not? And eventually I'll fuck her. Only in LA will you meet 5s and 6s who won't even give it up. In eastern Europe, you'll rarely meet a 6 and if you do, you're fucking on the first or second date. So currently, I have this girl that I'm going to hang out with once or twice a week until it happens; a girl in Temecula that I'll go to fuck once every couple weeks; while I find a 8 or 9 who I plan to focus on.

Now the reason guys in Los Angeles are wak as well:
I go to Vegas the next weekend and I fuck Irish/German girl from Temecula. She calls me 2 days later saying shes coming to LA. I say I'm down to hang out thinking I'm just going to fuck. Then, she tells me she is bringing a friend along, so I should bring one of my friends. Here is why I hate my friends in LA. (My next mission is hopefully find some new LA friends on Roosh because I am sick and tired of my LA friends.) I hit up my LA friend; a Persian Jewish guy born and raised in Beverly Hills who probably has $500k in his bank account from his parents wealth. I tell him the situation. First thing, “who are these girls? Are we going to have to take them to dinner because I don't want to pay for them. I need to see a picture of the girl.” I'm like, “dude, these girls are coming to LA, they just want to hang out. It's not a big deal. It's not a double date. We're just going to hang out for a bit. I don't want to ask for a picture cuz we're just going to hang out.” But being the Beverly Hills fuck that he is, everything has to be perfect and his way. So now I'm making myself look bad asking the girl for a picture of her friend. After an hour of convincing this piece of shit guy to hang out....I”M HOOKING UP THE MOTHER FUCKER and HE HAS TO BE CONVINCED. These guys are just too uptight and not chill or go with the flow type of people. We meet up and his girl is a 8. Shes 22yo, 5'8”, thin, with some Ds. I'm like “fuck, I want to be with that girl.” Anyways, we have a good time. The aftermath is even more horrendous. He calls me same night after drop off and says, “don't tell them I'm the guy who asked for her picture. Say it's another guy”. Another call same night, “hey, when are you going to Temecula, to hang out. I want to come. Another call the next day, “hey, whats your girls facebook? I want to find my girls facebook and look at her pictures and friends.” Basically, that's it. I shortened it a bunch. I'm basically at the point that I regret taking this guy with me and hooking him up. He wants to go hook up with the girl, but wants me to drive him there. He wants to find her facebook to look at her friends. WHY MOTHER FUCKER? SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH!!!! Just plain annoying.

Anyways, after 2 weeks here:
1) I'm sick of the girls. They are not as attractive. The ones who are attractive want guys with super status and wealth. The ones who are okay looking, still put up BS. In eastern Europe, there are straight up more girls than guys (the places I've been). The girls are tall and thin. The girls give hints when interested. The eye fuck eye. When you approach, they talk and recipricate conversation.
2) I need to find some new guy friends. Any guys in LA on Roosh, I beg you, please be friends with me. I'm a chill dude. I just want to hit up bars and hollar and chill. That's all. No BS.

Haha, you are preaching to the choir here man. I am in the same situation man. I am back from college and only one guy from my old group of friends is even around anymore. He is one of my best friends ;but with his work schedule to earn a decent living with the sub par jobs available in the economy he isn't around to go out much. They are either in school in other areas of the country or out of college and not in LA. Once I have been out of college, my lifestyle has totally shifted from partying multiple times a week to literally being a hermit and maybe going out once or twice a month if that. This is great as far as my mental and physical state goes. My mind is much sharper and I have toned up and lost weight from not drinking, but with my sharp mind I realize how pointless life is without a solid group of friends to hang out with.

I'll send you a pm.

[speeddemon]

I'm not doubting that EE girls are better than US girls, but worrying about things you can't control is useless.

Can you control other people's obesity? No
Can you stop McDonalds from going to EE? No
Can you do anything about the traffic if there is only one way to your home? No
Can you do control how random Persian girls act like in gas stations? No
Will complaining about the $9 beer make the price go down? No

On the other hand:

Can you move out of LA? Yes
Can you find a job / start a business? Yes
Can you find some new friends or at least not take so much shit from your old friends? Yes
Can you date less prude Persian girls? Yes

Focus your energy on doing these things.

In the meantime, you can meditate, work out, run, play sports, do some hobbies and most importantly get off the internet (except for short breaks)

[thegmanifesto]

(06-30-2013 06:22 PM)bigdrov1x Wrote:  

Also, does anybody bend the brim of their hat anymore? What is with a hat that is so big that it covers your ears? What is with everybody having to have "sleeve tattoos" out here(that goes for chicks as well. Jeans that sag below your arse? Dickies work pant and shorts for everything? The level of douchebaggery out here is just endless!!! Peace Out!!

Well, you did say this:

Quote:

Inland Empire in SoCal here.

So what did you expect?

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

@op.

I felt the same way when I left GDL in january. I had tears in my eyes as I was boarding the plane in the airport. I despise California with everything I got. hell, even before that, one of the girls that I laid in mexico saw that I am depressed and guessed correctly why (living in California) I agree with you, the people here suck, and the women are a bunch of entitled cunts who think that I should treat them like they're 10s when they're 5s on my book, lol.

@btw. never go out to bars and clubs in California. they're a bunch of rip-off places where girls go to shoot down guys who approach them and where you get stolen more money than investing in cars. it's better to stay home

[bigdrov1x]

(06-30-2013 10:48 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-30-2013 06:22 PM)bigdrov1x Wrote:  

Also, does anybody bend the brim of their hat anymore? What is with a hat that is so big that it covers your ears? What is with everybody having to have "sleeve tattoos" out here(that goes for chicks as well. Jeans that sag below your arse? Dickies work pant and shorts for everything? The level of douchebaggery out here is just endless!!! Peace Out!!

Well, you did say this:

Quote:

Inland Empire in SoCal here.

So what did you expect?

Yeah I moved out here 10 yrs ago. I am from Chicago. When coming from Chicago, ones impressions of Southern California is that it is a paradise. Always warm, sunny, no humidity. One soon learns that San Diego county, and Orange county are actually more of what everybody thinks that SoCal is like. The rest is just ghetto. In LA, I like Thai Town, Venice, Santa Monica area, and that is it. Ive never lived anywhere before where it was actually considered DHV to be perceived or act like a gangster, ghetto person, or hood rat. So I never ever expected SoCal to be how it is.

[Veloce]

(06-30-2013 11:54 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Don't feel depressed! You've seen the light! You should feel happy.

You know what few other men know. You know what you want. That is a big step ahead of most men.

This. It is better to have travelled to Europe and fucked than never travelled and fucked at all.

The first time I went to Europe and came back I felt exactly like you. For some reason, I didn't feel that way my last trip. But I haven't been to any EE/FSU countries (probably the next trip)

L.A. can really get to you if you don't carve out your own niche. With a decent job, a decent pad, and maybe even a part-time gf, a guy can find happiness here. It took me 12 years, so maybe I'm just an idiot for staying that long, but it was mostly for career reasons anyway. If you do land a gf here, make sure she wasn't born here or hasn't been living here too long.

I said it on another thread, but friends are harder to find than bangs here. 99% of guys I meet in this city are poser effeminate faggots that have way too many first world problems.

[Aliblahba]

(07-01-2013 06:57 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

99% of guys I meet in this city are poser effeminate faggots that have way too many first world problems.

Dude is the only guy from the West Coast that broke ranks and tells it like it is. Respect!

[el mechanico]

We need to pitch in and open thedude a resturant here in my neck of the woods and see if he can pull it off with us coming in drinking free and banging his help.

[Veloce]

(07-01-2013 07:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

We need to pitch in and open thedude a resturant here in my neck of the woods and see if he can pull it off with us coming in drinking free and banging his help.

what's in it for me? I'll run in the kitchen but that sounds like a sinking ship and a hell of a good time.

[el mechanico]

(07-02-2013 02:57 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 07:23 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

We need to pitch in and open thedude a resturant here in my neck of the woods and see if he can pull it off with us coming in drinking free and banging his help.

what's in it for me? I'll run in the kitchen but that sounds like a sinking ship and a hell of a good time.

Fame! look at the competition

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants-g...orida.html

[Veloce]

If I were to open a joint there it wouldn't be to blow out the competition. It would be to skate by and spend the next year of my life high as a kite, chasing whatever's fuckable down there, and living in a pair of cutoff denim shorts.

[Giovonny]

(06-30-2013 02:38 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

I thought this board was about a supportive forum for guys to sort their shit out.

I guess thats true but at the same time -- I don't like when things turn into a pity party.

I don't like to feel sorry myself. I hate when others guys feel sorry for themselves.

A group of guys feeling sorry for themselves is a place I don't want to be

Remember that most guys are here because of a lack of success with women. Because of that, many perspectives will sound beta, frustrated, inexperienced, and defeated.

It's easy to find guys who will complain about a lack of success.

We should not let this be the norm.

When guys complain, I try to offer solutions.

I understand that the op was likely just "venting". We all need that sometimes.

(06-30-2013 03:30 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Wouldn't you feel depressed if you were in a city where you don't see that many hot women and you know you could be in a better place?

No.

I would not be depressed.

My happiness and piece of mind are not so fragile that they can be lost simply by a lack of hot women.

My piece of mind is quite secure. I exercise it regularly and practice keeping it strong. Happiness is a muscle.

When my life is not perfect, I focus on the positive. I don't start to cry and complain. I know many men have been thru much worse. I count my blessings.

If I have my health, shelter, food, water. It's hard to get me depressed.

If I lived in a city with a shortage of hot women, I would:

A) Make plans to leave
B) Maximize the positives that that town had to offer.
C) Focus on improving myself in all possible ways. (Better diet, better workouts, better work situation, read books, study my interests, work on my weaknesses, work on myself, etc.)
D) Surround myself with beauty in other ways. (Great music, movies, art, comedy, animals, food, friends, family, etc.)

I would develop an anti-depression gameplan. I would not leave it to chance. I would take positive action to make sure my mind remained positive.

Getting depressed means that you are being highly emotional. Emotional volatility is very much a female trait.

Men need to be stronger. We can not let our emotions rule our world.

We must protect our peace of mind at all costs. It's the key to our happiness.

I know, easier said then done.

If you need help, pm me, I will help you create an anti-depression strategy.

[WestCoast]

^

You can't let a single factor determine your happiness (money, girls or otherwise) become mentally and emotionally stronger.

This is a lacking topic on the forum: practice controlling your emotions, ie: improve your emotional IQ. (emotional IQ 2.0 is a great book for this).