[TheFinalEpic]

Whole story is just a waste of lives and talent.

[Hypno]

(04-19-2017 11:07 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 11:02 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

He was young, but I bet they still try to blame this on concussion brain damage. There's probably millions of dollars in insurance money at stake - money that doesn't pay out for a straight suicide.

Finished listening to the dean of the MA School of Law on 98.5 FM SportsHub about two hours ago. He unequivocally said:

EVERY CRIMINAL CHARGE will be vacated AND Hernandez’s family will be entitled to BOTH his CONTRACT $$$$ AND his NFL PENSION.

Wow... Crime does pay.

And I call bullshit on the suicide. He was suicided.

That doesn't make any sense. in the NFL, if you are injured you don't get paid. you are going to pay this guy who was in jail, and give him a pension?

The pension for the years served in the NFL I can see, since that money is already stet aside. but not his contract.

And on what basis is his original conviction going to be vacated?

[YossariansRight]

(04-19-2017 01:22 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 11:07 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 11:02 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

He was young, but I bet they still try to blame this on concussion brain damage. There's probably millions of dollars in insurance money at stake - money that doesn't pay out for a straight suicide.

Finished listening to the dean of the MA School of Law on 98.5 FM SportsHub about two hours ago. He unequivocally said:

EVERY CRIMINAL CHARGE will be vacated AND Hernandez’s family will be entitled to BOTH his CONTRACT $$$$ AND his NFL PENSION.

Wow... Crime does pay.

And I call bullshit on the suicide. He was suicided.

That doesn't make any sense. in the NFL, if you are injured you don't get paid. you are going to pay this guy who was in jail, and give him a pension?

The pension for the years served in the NFL I can see, since that money is already stet aside. but not his contract.

And on what basis is his original conviction going to be vacated?

Pension:
http://www.csnne.com/video/coyne-patriot...fl-pension

Conviction vacation:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_c...conviction

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_c...conviction

I thought the salary angle was brought up by the lawyer; must have been another caller.

[Kona]

(04-19-2017 07:06 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

It was a "hung" jury.

"Here's $40 million. Just show up on Sunday and catch passes." Fuckface.

And Cuck Goodell is in his office right now trying to find a way to suspend Brady for 8 games over this.

You just stole all of the jokes. Sad.

Aloha!

[Hypno]

(04-19-2017 02:57 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 01:22 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 11:07 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 11:02 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

He was young, but I bet they still try to blame this on concussion brain damage. There's probably millions of dollars in insurance money at stake - money that doesn't pay out for a straight suicide.

Finished listening to the dean of the MA School of Law on 98.5 FM SportsHub about two hours ago. He unequivocally said:

EVERY CRIMINAL CHARGE will be vacated AND Hernandez’s family will be entitled to BOTH his CONTRACT $$$$ AND his NFL PENSION.

Wow... Crime does pay.

And I call bullshit on the suicide. He was suicided.

That doesn't make any sense. in the NFL, if you are injured you don't get paid. you are going to pay this guy who was in jail, and give him a pension?

The pension for the years served in the NFL I can see, since that money is already stet aside. but not his contract.

And on what basis is his original conviction going to be vacated?

Pension:
http://www.csnne.com/video/coyne-patriot...fl-pension

Conviction vacation:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_c...conviction

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_c...conviction

I thought the salary angle was brought up by the lawyer; must have been another caller.

I don't think it means what you think it means.

The lawyer has a point that the convictions will be vacated (not expunged) due to due process. That MIGHT open the door for his bonus - but I cant really say without reviewing the contract - I think this lawyer was exaggerating the potential impact, and you misunderstood him saying it might have an impact to it would have an impact. I would expect his contract to provide that the fact that Hernandez didn't play would be sufficient to allow the Patriots to not pay the bonus. As for the pension, the NFL probably owes that to his heir even if the convictions were never vacated.

[Sisyphus]

(04-19-2017 11:43 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

I think guys like Bernie Madoff and Rod Blagojevich would have an easier time in prison, even with their diminutive sizes. Fellow inmates would probably have a lot more in common with them than a guy like Aaron.

Don't guys like that go to white collar prison? Madoff isn't standing in the chow line with a bunch of murderers and bangers, no?

But in any case I see your point. I can see guys like that becoming targets, the other thugs want to take down the big tough football player. But then again I think prisoners tend to affiliate along the lines of the various gangs - woods, blacks, Nortenos, Surenos, etc. I'm far from an expert though, my mild lifestyle has kept me pretty far from the penal system.

[BallsDeep]

According to a couple Massachusetts law professors, Hernandez will now be entitled to keep his 12.5 million dollar signing bonus, which would go to his heirs.

Damn this guy couldn't get away from trying to be a real life Tony Soprano, and he finished it off by trying to be a real life Walter White. As morbid as this all is, there's a tinge of nobility there.

[TigerMandingo]

Wow, so he offed himself so his siblings would get the money?

I respect that, however fucked up whatever he did was.

[BallsDeep]

He has a 4yr old daughter, I assume the money is for her.

[Sp5]

(04-19-2017 05:43 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

According to a couple Massachusetts law professors, Hernandez will now be entitled to keep his 12.5 million dollar signing bonus, which would go to his heirs.

Damn this guy couldn't get away from trying to be a real life Tony Soprano, and he finished it off by trying to be a real life Walter White. As morbid as this all is, there's a tinge of nobility there.

I don't see the "entitled", estate can still be sued in civil court by various heirs of victims and survivors and money tied up in pre-judgment attachment until a judgment. Remember OJ lost to the Goldman family in civil court, although OJ's pension is exempt. Other assets are reachable.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_c...till_suing

if that was the reason he killed himself, he might turn out wrong. While the conviction will be vacated, the fact of the guilty verdict can probably be applied in the suit regarding that conviction. The victims' families in the other cases might be out of luck, or have to try their cases.

Facing life without parole at age 27 in a modern hellhole supermax prison with constant gang warfare, shitty food, and no hope of ever touching a woman again is a pretty good reason to kill yourself, though.

[BallsDeep]

Now things are getting interesting.

It's being reported that Hernandez wrote 3 suicide notes, one each to his fiancee, daughter, and gay prison lover.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...LOVER.html

[BallsDeep]

More info coming out on Hernandez's gay relationships:

http://www.newsweek.com/aaron-hernandez-...ice-587879

Quote:

Hernandez’s alleged longtime male lover, the high school friend, was interviewed extensively by authorities after Lloyd’s murder, and was forced to testify in front of a grand jury. Law enforcement officials also say Hernandez moved a large amount of money into three accounts shortly before his arrest for the Lloyd killing: one account was for his fiancée; a second was for his daughter; the third, where the most money was moved, was for that friend.

[Vicious]

I guess he got tired of being the sportfuck of the prison yard.

I'll see myself out.

[brick tamland]

Wasn't too familiar with this case but the CTE aspect is interesting.
His death was officially ruled to be a suicide and his family have donated his brain to Boston Univ.
The NFL will probably be concerned, depending on the outcome as he had a relatively short career. He wasn't a veteran like Junior Seau.

[Sisyphus]

(04-19-2017 11:43 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

Great athletes don't necessarily make comfortable prisoners, especially when a horde of other inmates would want to cut someone like him down.

Well Garrett, you were spot on.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/prison-rec...12314.html

Quote:

Hernandez’s life was awful...his life was marked by violent fights, attempts by other inmates to extort and intimidate him and outbursts of frustration at the arbitrary strictness of inmate life. He was surrounded by danger, pressure and, at times, just pathetic ridiculousness.

ccording to jail and prison records, Hernandez struggled with everything from routine disciplinary checks, to getting along with other inmates, to frustrations about having so few people to talk with.

In Bristol County Jail, where he served about 22 months, Hernandez was charged with 21 disciplinary offenses stemming from 12 separate incidents, according to records. At the Souza-Baranowski prison, where he spent two years, there were 78 more disciplinary offenses and 12 major incidents, according to records.

There were at least four physical altercations, with Hernandez often challenged by other inmates. He was caught with a nearly 6-inch shiv at one point. At times he was treated for cuts, bruises and reddened fists after battles so intense guards couldn’t pull the men apart without using mace.

“Hernandez struck [name redacted] with a closed fist to the face and both men engage[d] in a physical altercation,” one Souza-Baranowski incident report detailed. “The combatants ignored several direct orders to cease their actions and chemical agent was utilized to separate the inmates.”

Another time, in Bristol County, he and an inmate were placed in individual cages in the “yard” for their designated hour outside their cell. An argument ensued and, unable to get at the other man, they proceeded to spit on each other through the fencing.

After fights, Hernandez could appear despondent, according to guards. While prison records labeled Hernandez a member of the “Bloods Street Gang,” many inmates told authorities that he mostly “kept to himself” and tried to engage in spiritual behavior. If he thought being a football star would endear him to others, it often worked the other way, with convicts challenging him.

His fame made him a target for everything....

He complained about body cavity, strip and cell searches. He often called the jail “corrupt.” He argued guards were unnecessarily intrusive in his life. “You’re overdoing your job,” he shouted at one, according to a report.

He was known, in fits of extreme frustration, to kick and pound his door and shout for assistance.

“His aggressive tone … has become an excessive habit when he does not receive what he wants, when he wants it,” one Bristol County guard wrote in a report. “He is constantly kicking his cell door and screaming at the top of his lungs utilizing profanity at times when he wants something, regardless of how miniscule it is. It is not uncommon for Hernandez to kick his cell door constantly until an officer approaches his cell merely to ask the officer for the current time...."

There was no respect there, not from other inmates, not from guards, not from the system. Hard time didn’t appear to harden him. His requests for more food, a cellmate he liked or anything else was always summarily dismissed. He was a nobody.

The full article has a lot of detail about specific incidents. Even so, I didn't quite shed a tear for him. But it was interesting to read about stuff like this.