year - 400 approach study
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
alright, so I've been doing this for a little over a year, and I think that I need some outside perspective. I did 302 nightgame approaches, all solo, and 98 day game approaches on my campus. here were my results:
night game
approaches: 302
phone numbers: 20
phone numbers that responded: 10
kiss attempts: 10
successful makeouts: 7
girls dated: 2
notches: 1
day game
approaches: 98
phone numbers: 10
responses: didn't record, estimated about 5
girls dated: 1
notches: 0
I know that these results are pretty dismal. it took me over a year to do this many approaches, and there were actually quite a few others that I didn't count. I worked really hard, reading game resources, taking notes, recording what I did night after night, always trying to come up with new material and new ways to improve my results. I experimented with different looks, bought new clothes and developed a better style. I've worked out more and gotten in better shape...I have muscular arms, pecs, abs, low bodyfat percentage, all that stuff. I've read tons of books, not just about pickup, but other books like the ones roosh recommends every once in awhile. I've tried to absorb as much red pill wisdom as I can.
I have 17 new notches since I first read bang and started studying pickup which was about a year and a half ago. I've had about 10-15 new notches (not sure since I didn't record dates, just going off memory) in the last year since I started the roosh program, and started keeping records of my activities. I only got one new notch from cold approach, and that was like 10 months ago. she was extremely flakey...it actually took a month and a half after getting her number to get her to meet up with me, and only after I had basically dismissed her outright and told her off did she agree to finally meet. she was a decent lay, but not particularly attractive. I also dated one girl, for a total of seven dates, and she gave me zero orgasms, and shut down all my attempts to escalate. I would not have pursued so hard normally, my rule is she has to give me an orgasm by the third date to even consider keep dating her...but I wanted it bad, since she was cute and it would've been my second notch from bar/club cold approach. there was one girl I met at a club that I could have dated. when I first met her I made out with her a lot and tried to transition to her place for the SNL, but she wouldn't go for it. I got the number, and then she became a flakey and icy bitch. she'd only dated four guys in her life, and was in a physical therapy masters program, so you can imagine what her personality was like. she seemed to look down on almost everyone. she criticized my direct approach to dating, and my suggestion to get drinks, insisting that I take her out for an expensive dinner instead. I declined. I dated one girl from day game, for one "date" which was really just meeting up at school. I tried, but she was too flaky to set up a second date with. she was also a 19 year old virgin. she was black, but very cute for a black girl...but there is only so much flaking I can put up with, especially from someone who is probably not gonna put out at all.
my main question is, do you guys think there is a realistic chance that I will be able to do any better if I keep trying? it seems like I've heard a lot of people on here say that it takes about a year to start getting consistent results, but I've been doing it for over a year and the only consistent results I've been seeing are obnoxious and rude female behavior. it takes a considerable amount of time, energy, and money to go out and try to pick up girls, and I have very little of those three resources since I'm in pharmacy school and living mostly off student loans for now. on Friday nights, I'm usually ass tired, and don't really want to go to a club by myself, listen to loud, obnoxious music and people, pay exorbitant cover and drink prices, and keep getting blown out and rejected over and over. it's fun getting to make out with them or dance with them and grope them occasionally, but it seems like a waste of time if it isn't getting me notches, dates, new FWB's, etc.
right now I have the summer off, so I could approach more girls if I want and keep trying to improve my skills. or, I can focus on something new. I can learn new skills, and try to do things that will actually make me happy. then when school starts, I can focus harder on school. maybe I can try to make more money. I plan to get an otoplasty at some point in my life, either after I finish school or maybe before. I could probably get one this summer if I work hard enough. they only cost about $3600 and take a few weeks to fully recover from. I think I would have done better if my ears didn't stick out so much, I'd definitely be a lot more attractive. I could try to travel more, maybe do my first trip outside the country. I could learn some new skills, set up a mini-bar at my house and learn how to make drinks, get better at playing guitar and try to find a band to play in, or try to focus on having a better social life. I could take up new hobbies like swimming or rock climbing. there's a lot of things I wanna do. in three years I'll have my PharmD, I can start fresh in a new city with a six figure income and hopefully after paying off my loans I'd be able to scale back to part time and live a more fulfilling life. right now it's pretty grueling just trying to get through it all though, my finances are tight, and almost all my time and energy goes to just getting through the insane course load and keeping up with my classes. I only have two more months off of summer, then I start my P-2 year, which is considered by most to be the hardest year.
if I do decide to continue working on my game, I'll need to figure out what I am going to work on, how I am going to improve, and I will probably want some advice about that as well. I'm not really sure what to do, I feel like I've pretty much done everything I can at this point and am running out of ideas and answers, except just keep doing what I've been doing, which is clearly not working. what else should I do?
night game
approaches: 302
phone numbers: 20
phone numbers that responded: 10
kiss attempts: 10
successful makeouts: 7
girls dated: 2
notches: 1
day game
approaches: 98
phone numbers: 10
responses: didn't record, estimated about 5
girls dated: 1
notches: 0
I know that these results are pretty dismal. it took me over a year to do this many approaches, and there were actually quite a few others that I didn't count. I worked really hard, reading game resources, taking notes, recording what I did night after night, always trying to come up with new material and new ways to improve my results. I experimented with different looks, bought new clothes and developed a better style. I've worked out more and gotten in better shape...I have muscular arms, pecs, abs, low bodyfat percentage, all that stuff. I've read tons of books, not just about pickup, but other books like the ones roosh recommends every once in awhile. I've tried to absorb as much red pill wisdom as I can.
I have 17 new notches since I first read bang and started studying pickup which was about a year and a half ago. I've had about 10-15 new notches (not sure since I didn't record dates, just going off memory) in the last year since I started the roosh program, and started keeping records of my activities. I only got one new notch from cold approach, and that was like 10 months ago. she was extremely flakey...it actually took a month and a half after getting her number to get her to meet up with me, and only after I had basically dismissed her outright and told her off did she agree to finally meet. she was a decent lay, but not particularly attractive. I also dated one girl, for a total of seven dates, and she gave me zero orgasms, and shut down all my attempts to escalate. I would not have pursued so hard normally, my rule is she has to give me an orgasm by the third date to even consider keep dating her...but I wanted it bad, since she was cute and it would've been my second notch from bar/club cold approach. there was one girl I met at a club that I could have dated. when I first met her I made out with her a lot and tried to transition to her place for the SNL, but she wouldn't go for it. I got the number, and then she became a flakey and icy bitch. she'd only dated four guys in her life, and was in a physical therapy masters program, so you can imagine what her personality was like. she seemed to look down on almost everyone. she criticized my direct approach to dating, and my suggestion to get drinks, insisting that I take her out for an expensive dinner instead. I declined. I dated one girl from day game, for one "date" which was really just meeting up at school. I tried, but she was too flaky to set up a second date with. she was also a 19 year old virgin. she was black, but very cute for a black girl...but there is only so much flaking I can put up with, especially from someone who is probably not gonna put out at all.
my main question is, do you guys think there is a realistic chance that I will be able to do any better if I keep trying? it seems like I've heard a lot of people on here say that it takes about a year to start getting consistent results, but I've been doing it for over a year and the only consistent results I've been seeing are obnoxious and rude female behavior. it takes a considerable amount of time, energy, and money to go out and try to pick up girls, and I have very little of those three resources since I'm in pharmacy school and living mostly off student loans for now. on Friday nights, I'm usually ass tired, and don't really want to go to a club by myself, listen to loud, obnoxious music and people, pay exorbitant cover and drink prices, and keep getting blown out and rejected over and over. it's fun getting to make out with them or dance with them and grope them occasionally, but it seems like a waste of time if it isn't getting me notches, dates, new FWB's, etc.
right now I have the summer off, so I could approach more girls if I want and keep trying to improve my skills. or, I can focus on something new. I can learn new skills, and try to do things that will actually make me happy. then when school starts, I can focus harder on school. maybe I can try to make more money. I plan to get an otoplasty at some point in my life, either after I finish school or maybe before. I could probably get one this summer if I work hard enough. they only cost about $3600 and take a few weeks to fully recover from. I think I would have done better if my ears didn't stick out so much, I'd definitely be a lot more attractive. I could try to travel more, maybe do my first trip outside the country. I could learn some new skills, set up a mini-bar at my house and learn how to make drinks, get better at playing guitar and try to find a band to play in, or try to focus on having a better social life. I could take up new hobbies like swimming or rock climbing. there's a lot of things I wanna do. in three years I'll have my PharmD, I can start fresh in a new city with a six figure income and hopefully after paying off my loans I'd be able to scale back to part time and live a more fulfilling life. right now it's pretty grueling just trying to get through it all though, my finances are tight, and almost all my time and energy goes to just getting through the insane course load and keeping up with my classes. I only have two more months off of summer, then I start my P-2 year, which is considered by most to be the hardest year.
if I do decide to continue working on my game, I'll need to figure out what I am going to work on, how I am going to improve, and I will probably want some advice about that as well. I'm not really sure what to do, I feel like I've pretty much done everything I can at this point and am running out of ideas and answers, except just keep doing what I've been doing, which is clearly not working. what else should I do?