At least when you’re pursuing women in Paris, as opposed to women in many popular cities discussed on this forum, you’ll be in what is arguably Europe’s most beautiful city with such extraordinary culture as well as its sophisticated and unique cuisine. I’d much rather fail in Paris than in Kiev. Hell, I’d probably rather date an 8 in Paris than a 9 in Kiev, even if it meant spending twice the cash.
Are french women overrated?
Parts of Paris are very beautiful yes, but other parts are quite dirty (eg. the metro). There are beggars asking people for money all the time (I was approached 2-3 times per day by someone asking for a hand-out in the tourist areas). [Note: The only one I gave a hand-out to was a cute girl - I told her I was only giving her some money because she was kind of cute]. The food-culture is very good yes (especially bread and pastries) but very expensive. Overall, I'd say Paris is nice, but Edinburgh is more beautiful than Paris.
But yes, on average, the women seem to be quite feminine, and much better than in the UK.
But yes, on average, the women seem to be quite feminine, and much better than in the UK.
Quote: (05-28-2013 06:54 AM)Atilla Wrote:
its sophisticated and unique cuisine
Cuisine is not necessarily sophisticated in Paris. Many restaurants use products and unsophisticated recipes from "le terroir" (deep provinces). It's a trend nowadays. As an exemple, if you ever find yourself near the Champs Elysees, go to Sebillon Porte Maillot. They have a delicious "all you can eat" Gigot d'Agneau (lamb's leg) as you could eat it in Aveyron.
"The milk-fed Allaiton de l’Aveyron leg of lamb has become legendary. There’s nothing so tender, and it is carved in front of you, as much as you wish. Served with the perfectly cooked creamy haricot beans, this is the restaurant’s signature dish."
Sebillon is a (very) good mid-level brasserie, chic but not that expensive. Their "rognons de veau au porto" are also excellent - I don't know if foreigners are used to veal kidneys, but personaly I love it.
Quote: (05-28-2013 06:54 AM)Atilla Wrote:
Hell, I’d probably rather date an 8 in Paris than a 9 in Kiev, even if it meant spending twice the cash.
Kiev is expensive if you want to live by western standarts. And if you really want to treat yourself and dine or party with style, it's even more expensive than Paris I'd say (wines in restaurants are RIDICULOUSLY expensive).
That said, I agree, Paris isn't cheap. Just had lunch with my partner in a mid-level cafe - about 100 € for two negronis, two entrees, two main dishes and one bottle of Bordeaux, no dessert (cognac on the house).
Quote: (05-28-2013 09:39 AM)Prosal Wrote:
That said, I agree, Paris isn't cheap. Just had lunch with my partner in a mid-level cafe - about 100 € for two negronis, two entrees, two main dishes and one bottle of Bordeaux, no dessert (cognac on the house).
That is about on par with a big American city.
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On your very limited experience, do you rate Portuguese girls higher than French girls?
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I'm a shitty generalizer so take this with a huge piece of rock salt, but speaking in terms of what I've seen in Portugal and limited time in France...Portugal has its few and far between gems and stunners and more demure average girls and girl-next-doors but when you combine the higher margin in terms of quality/looks, and quantity--what you'll encounter on a way more regular basis--I'd rate France/French girls higher. Paris affecting my opinion quite a bit as passing from South to North of Portugal (limited or passing experience in Lisbon and deep south) haven't experienced that level of cosmopolitan city chaos in Portugal. Though once you move up far into the age range I'd rate them both very low :-D
On your very limited experience, do you rate Portuguese girls higher than French girls?
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I'm a shitty generalizer so take this with a huge piece of rock salt, but speaking in terms of what I've seen in Portugal and limited time in France...Portugal has its few and far between gems and stunners and more demure average girls and girl-next-doors but when you combine the higher margin in terms of quality/looks, and quantity--what you'll encounter on a way more regular basis--I'd rate France/French girls higher. Paris affecting my opinion quite a bit as passing from South to North of Portugal (limited or passing experience in Lisbon and deep south) haven't experienced that level of cosmopolitan city chaos in Portugal. Though once you move up far into the age range I'd rate them both very low :-D
Quote: (05-28-2013 09:06 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (05-28-2013 07:30 AM)zarzuelazen Wrote:
There are beggars asking people for money all the time (I was approached 2-3 times per day by someone asking for a hand-out in the tourist areas).
That is not really uncommon in many cities in the world.
Was it really a shocker for you?
No, but the amount of begging in central Paris was greater than I'd seen in most other Western European cities. The beggars follow the money I suppose...
Quote: (05-22-2013 09:21 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:
but now that i have discovered slavic women - east europe women and russian women. france just doesn't turn me on anymore like it used to.
i feel like most french women are just average looking to me now. sure their culture may be alittle freakier and sexier. there are many positive qualities of french women in comparison to western women.
I find also that the Slavic girls are the most attractive and feminine girls I've seen, especially the Polish or Ukrainian girls.
I am French and I live in Lyon. I tell you clearly that the French girls aren't beautiful and unfeminine. In reality, France is very diverse, you can find white girls, African girls, Asian girls and Middle East girls. I find that the beautiful French girls come from the upper classes (the French bourgeoisie)
But, the truly beautiful girls aren't plentiful and most are just average. The average french girl think she is a princess, regardless her ordinary physique. They have fair or olive skin, hazel eyes / blue eyes, very few generous forms, average faces and may have depleasant faces. There's many brunettes and a decent chunk of fake blondes. The majority is a so skinny silouhette and fat at the same time. Most are rather average to below average height.
Most of French girls lost their femininity. They just dress like millions of others, no effort or originality is needed. They have no personality because they all have the same leather or denim jacket, the same pants or jeans and the same fucking sneakers. They are always adopting the look of jeans and sneakers. They are always wearing clothes with darked colours and they think that it's elegant. I have no idea why, but women these days want to be like men. If it means wearing flat shoes, doing the same jobs as us and not shaving their legs, they will do it. Women in sports clothes is a more common sight than a lady in a nice elegant dress. Just because feminism told them they could. Because of street harassment, the French women aren't free to wear very feminine clothes (low-cut dresses, elegant dresses and short skirts) without being bothered by disrespectful individuals. Very few are even bothering to wear high heels now, you will see them taking them off and walking bare foot after a night out. Just disgusting.
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NO.
French women are not overrated.
They may be fussy, but always deliverer at the end.
French women are not overrated.
They may be fussy, but always deliverer at the end.
Quote: (02-05-2018 09:57 AM)666 Wrote:
NO.
French women are not overrated.
They may be fussy, but always deliverer at the end.
YES.
Our girls are arrogant, cold and unpleasant with the guys. Unlike girls from the Anglo-Saxon countries who they are more liberated, the first fear of French girls is to act in a way that will lead others to think that she is a slut, because there's a strong of social pressure here. French girls pretend to be a holy, but in reality, they love sexuality and they don't want the guys think they are a slut. When you approach them in the street, in the public transport or in the nightclubs, they will give you the cold shoulder and they are less comely. All that is foreign in their social circle, they consider them a sexual potential. You must always put a French girl at ease to bang her. We often say that our girls are stuck of their ass, but open of thighs.
If you're the kind of guy French girls like, you'll get decent matches on Tinder. Else (me), go fuck the black girls on adopteunmec and meetic, they are plenty and easy. I still have to try seekingarrangements.
About talking to white ones in the street, didn't work for me.
Since I still haven't figured out the magic pill for white French girls, I can't really say what works for them. Last time I had decent success with them was in high school, getting drunk was enough to "seduce" them (just before facebook plagued us). But now I can feel they are difficult, you must fit their type of guy, be beta enough in your approach (yeah they kinda like beta I think) but not too much, etc etc. Other solution is to taint your skin and become arab. Then you'll have access to a good percentage of arab-friendly girls who'll suck your dick and let you treat them like shit
About talking to white ones in the street, didn't work for me.
Since I still haven't figured out the magic pill for white French girls, I can't really say what works for them. Last time I had decent success with them was in high school, getting drunk was enough to "seduce" them (just before facebook plagued us). But now I can feel they are difficult, you must fit their type of guy, be beta enough in your approach (yeah they kinda like beta I think) but not too much, etc etc. Other solution is to taint your skin and become arab. Then you'll have access to a good percentage of arab-friendly girls who'll suck your dick and let you treat them like shit
Quote: (02-05-2018 01:07 PM)FastBang King Wrote:
If you're the kind of guy French girls like, you'll get decent matches on Tinder. Else (me), go fuck the black girls on adopteunmec and meetic, they are plenty and easy. I still have to try seekingarrangements.
About talking to white ones in the street, didn't work for me.
Since I still haven't figured out the magic pill for white French girls, I can't really say what works for them. Last time I had decent success with them was in high school, getting drunk was enough to "seduce" them (just before facebook plagued us). But now I can feel they are difficult, you must fit their type of guy, be beta enough in your approach (yeah they kinda like beta I think) but not too much, etc etc. Other solution is to taint your skin and become arab. Then you'll have access to a good percentage of arab-friendly girls who'll suck your dick and let you treat them like shit
I noticed that some French girls really like the Arabs guys. I am of Asian origin and I have very few decent matches on Tinder. I am agree with you. French girls mostly prefer effeminate or beta guys than an alpha guys. But, Arabs or blacks guys tend to have the beautiful white girls. They tend to be more direct and confident with the girls than the whites guys. While, whites guys usually have ugly girls or ordinary girls because they tend to behave like a beta male and nice guy.
No, white guys get the best white girls, but through work and social circles. That's how the guys I know do it anyway. But if you're a normal SMV arab, you'll get better results online (with white girls) than a normal SMV white guy online.
Quote: (02-05-2018 02:19 PM)FastBang King Wrote:
No, white guys get the best white girls, but through work and social circles. That's how the guys I know do it anyway. But if you're a normal SMV arab, you'll get better results online (with white girls) than a normal SMV white guy online.
This is patently false.
Quote: (02-05-2018 02:20 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:
Quote: (02-05-2018 02:19 PM)FastBang King Wrote:
No, white guys get the best white girls, but through work and social circles. That's how the guys I know do it anyway. But if you're a normal SMV arab, you'll get better results online (with white girls) than a normal SMV white guy online.
This is patently false.
I'm French and white. I've lived there more than 20 years. Are you even caucasian? I let the others judge if they should believe a native guy, or some of the RVF Canadian Goes To France and Hype It club
I did well enough back in the day,but I did have an accent and "latino mystique" in my favour...
We move between light and shadow, mutually influencing and being influenced through shades of gray...
Quote: (02-05-2018 02:19 PM)FastBang King Wrote:
No, white guys get the best white girls, but through work and social circles. That's how the guys I know do it anyway. But if you're a normal SMV arab, you'll get better results online (with white girls) than a normal SMV white guy online.
Arabs can bang the young beautiful white girls. I've seen young whites guys in relationship with a ordinary girls. Rather true, when French women (white girls) reach their hypergamy. The white guys get the best white girls, because they often have a better social and economic position than the arabs.
Quote: (05-27-2013 10:50 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:
As a Frenchie, while I haven't been back since I left France almost 2 decades ago, the only gringas I ever bother with while abroad are the French girls. I feel a kind of saudade or longing for them. There's something about them, that makes very different, unique, even special in their very own way. Few things are sexier than a smart French beautiful girl with whom you can communicate well. She will stimulate your mind and your soul, not to mention your body and your manhood. They are very smart, can be ball busters but will still keep their manners to be feminine even when drunk.
Someone mentioned, I think it was thedude, Moscow being the Mount Olympus of gorgeous women in the world. While I haven't been to Moscow yet, what I saw in Tokyo left me speechless like no other place so far. I have never seen such a high density of 9's, 10's and above, sublimely feminine and stunningly fashionable. Absolutely mind blowing.
That is if you are into Asian women...
Quote: (02-05-2018 04:32 PM)fraisheur69 Wrote:
Quote: (02-05-2018 02:19 PM)FastBang King Wrote:
No, white guys get the best white girls, but through work and social circles. That's how the guys I know do it anyway. But if you're a normal SMV arab, you'll get better results online (with white girls) than a normal SMV white guy online.
Arabs can bang the young beautiful white girls. I've seen young whites guys in relationship with a ordinary girls. Rather true, when French women (white girls) reach their hypergamy. The white guys get the best white girls, because they often have a better social and economic position than the arabs.
The divisory line between ethnic french ("white french") and Arabs sometimes is not that big..specially with some ethnic north Africans or Lebanese... most french people have somwhat Dark features (for european standards), they are only a bit/moderately lighter as a whole than Spaniards and italians.... on the other hand Arabs/Middle easterns stand out a lot among Germans, Dutch or Scandinavians people. Everytime I go to France I am surprised how small, weak/thin looking the people are...even group of young ethnic french guys, of the new generation, who are supposed to be taller...and it is not only about their low BMI, but about their bone structure and bodies which are smaller and more fragile I dont get how French can Be so different from Germans when they are neighbours.
I think french girls and quebecoises/french canadians are quite different. I tend to miss French Girls from times to times.
A mature quebecoise between 25-30 is a very good partner as a gf, they tend to be mature and appreciate the qualities and physique of guys. They are quite cool and will dress sexy if they have to. They also know what they want and if they like you will be quite direct. The older I get, the more I appreciate the girls in my country. They can be more on the masculine side from times to times though.
Younger Quebecoises are a bit immature and they tend to sleep around with muscular guys with a hockey background. They are quite annoying and often think more about what their friends think than their instinct. You won't score any point with them if you are educated/smart sadly.
I really appreciated French girls when I first moved there from Quebec because I found them more culturally and emotionally mature than Quebecoises and dressed better/with more style, and were more feminine. After 26 years old they tend to be equal though. What I liked about French girls is that they really dig my stories and they have a way of showing they are interested/listen to you, that I haven't really seen in Quebecoises. The problem in France is that truly beautiful french white girls are not the norm in big cities and are kind of scared because of street harrassment (In Paris), but provincial girls will make any man melt.
At 35 year old and older, French Girls women from France are much hotter than Quebecoises though and remain slim.
French girls still appreciate galanterie, being courteous and a gentleman. Quebecoises like to be flirted as you would flirt an english girl, but in French (as if, she would be one of the guys).
French girls reward guys who approach them and are manly, Quebecoises like to do the work and be in control.
From my experience, Quebecoises are better in bed than French girls and more sexually liberated.
A mature quebecoise between 25-30 is a very good partner as a gf, they tend to be mature and appreciate the qualities and physique of guys. They are quite cool and will dress sexy if they have to. They also know what they want and if they like you will be quite direct. The older I get, the more I appreciate the girls in my country. They can be more on the masculine side from times to times though.
Younger Quebecoises are a bit immature and they tend to sleep around with muscular guys with a hockey background. They are quite annoying and often think more about what their friends think than their instinct. You won't score any point with them if you are educated/smart sadly.
I really appreciated French girls when I first moved there from Quebec because I found them more culturally and emotionally mature than Quebecoises and dressed better/with more style, and were more feminine. After 26 years old they tend to be equal though. What I liked about French girls is that they really dig my stories and they have a way of showing they are interested/listen to you, that I haven't really seen in Quebecoises. The problem in France is that truly beautiful french white girls are not the norm in big cities and are kind of scared because of street harrassment (In Paris), but provincial girls will make any man melt.
At 35 year old and older, French Girls women from France are much hotter than Quebecoises though and remain slim.
French girls still appreciate galanterie, being courteous and a gentleman. Quebecoises like to be flirted as you would flirt an english girl, but in French (as if, she would be one of the guys).
French girls reward guys who approach them and are manly, Quebecoises like to do the work and be in control.
From my experience, Quebecoises are better in bed than French girls and more sexually liberated.
How much truth is there to the "unfaithful and promiscuous" stereotype about french people?
I ask because on every euro vacation I've taken, I've encountered french girls who openly hit on me in front of their partner, or were hooking up with multiple people in the same group, in front of each other, or both. And also that there are french athletes (like tony parker of the spurs) who seem to have no qualms whatsoever about fucking their teammates wives/girlfriends.
I ask because on every euro vacation I've taken, I've encountered french girls who openly hit on me in front of their partner, or were hooking up with multiple people in the same group, in front of each other, or both. And also that there are french athletes (like tony parker of the spurs) who seem to have no qualms whatsoever about fucking their teammates wives/girlfriends.
These are lies...its just flirting.
I am interested in this question because of all languages French is the one I can acquire the most easily.
Had an old school French teacher for 10 months as a kid and still remember a lot of the grammar rules and vocabulary.
Plus I love my rugby..
But..
To quote another thread "It seems like france is going to shit with all the migrants and socialism their country is plagued with."
To which I would add "It seems like Even French Rugby is going to shit with all the migrant-players and big money interference their game is plagued with."
Was there in 2016 but was in the Correze for an English wedding and hardly saw any local women. Bordeaux airport was 'meh'.
Really hoping that having French under my belt would be worth it. Learning other languages would have to be from scratch..
Had an old school French teacher for 10 months as a kid and still remember a lot of the grammar rules and vocabulary.
Plus I love my rugby..
But..
To quote another thread "It seems like france is going to shit with all the migrants and socialism their country is plagued with."
To which I would add "It seems like Even French Rugby is going to shit with all the migrant-players and big money interference their game is plagued with."
Was there in 2016 but was in the Correze for an English wedding and hardly saw any local women. Bordeaux airport was 'meh'.
Really hoping that having French under my belt would be worth it. Learning other languages would have to be from scratch..
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