[NYJ]

Of course they're scared of large groups of men united behind a cause getting together. Most every conflict in history has pitted large groups of men united behind a cause against each other. I don't consider myself an MRA by any means, but more and more men are experiencing a severe cognitive dissonance. They're being fed bullshit and what they see occurring doesn't add up to that bullshit story. Most men thankfully do not resort to violence. However for every 1000 of us there is at least one Sodini like individual just waiting hit their breaking point.

[cardguy]

Sodini wasn't an MRM guy.

He was just a guy who couldn't get laid and flipped out. I have zero sympathy for guys like that.

If you can't get laid - you blame the player and not the game.

[babelfish669]

(05-19-2013 06:37 PM)bacon Wrote:  

I thought slavery was abolished with the 13th admendment of the Constitution in 1865?

Except for punishment as a crime. Which in this case, the crime of being married to a witch.

[Menace]

This guy should have known this was not going to fly. Splitting retirement assets accumulated after marriage is SOP and it will happen. I wonder if lawyers sometimes make poor clients because they think they know better.

He should have paid up from the funds and moved on. Unfair and unjust, but better than jail and disbarment.

[sixsix]

Honestly, I don't understand why these judges, ex-wives and district attorneys don't get offed in a country that is packed with guns.

Being enslaved, living with violent criminals that can rape you often and brutally for an economic crime is ridiculous in the first place. When this happens for not paying 20,000 dollars a month to some crazy, money hungry whore, that deserves the people responsible to be punished because an unjust law is not a legitimate law at all.

When you breach someone's rights like that, you can't expect your rights to be respected. Fucked up.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

He was married to a fellow lawyer, Regina T. Drexler. So much for women needing spousal support because they're not working power jobs. I could see some "spousal maintenance" if she had no career or prospects, but that's far from the case.

Below is a link to her professional profile and photo. Look at the pic and ask yourself if she or any woman is worth what he pays. I was going to re-post both here, but considering how litigious she is, I'd like to avoid getting Roosh potentially sued so I'll just leave the link.

I will quote from her profile, though: "Regina leads the firm's intellectutal property practice." Yet she still needs ALL of his salary. Think about that: "...maintenance of $12,000 per month for four years, followed by $8000 per month for two years."

http://www.wallacescottlaw.com/Regina-Drexler/

[Akula]

My G*d the deck is so stacked against men who are fathers these days. If you're not being emotionally beaten to death by your spouse, or killing yourself working 24-7 just to keep up and feed some thankless, overweight entitled princess then you sure as hell have the fear of G*d in you that if you make one move EVER to get out she'll take you to the cleaners financially and u might just get put in Federal Ass Raping Prison to boot. Great, where do I sign up?

Meanwhile, the mainstream press and politicians don't say sh*t about how bad it is for men, pretend it's the opposite and women have it bad (Obama and the Dems started talking about "The War on Women" during the Presidential elections mind you), and to add insult to injury start pushing 'gay marriage' on all of us! As if marriage isn't f*cked up enough already now they need to enforce the nightmare on gays!!

'Land of the Free' indeed...my @ss, can't even drink a beer on the street in the US without getting arrested!!! Let alone risk marriage!!

[Sailor]

Well,i have to say,she looks like she was hot when young

http://www.martindale.com/Regina-T-Drexl...lawyer.htm

[MikeCF]

Here's what he would have had to pay:

Quote:

The parties’ marriage ended in 2010 and husband was ordered to pay wife $5000 per month in child support and maintenance of $12,000 per month for four years, followed by $8000 per month for two years. Thereafter, husband, who was a tax attorney and partner at a large law firm, did not comply with his obligations, resulting in the accumulation of $101,486 in support arrearages and the suspension of his law license. Wife then moved for a QDRO to collect the arrearages from the funds held in husband’s ERISA retirement plan at the law firm.

http://www.cobar.org/opinions/opinion.cf...&courtid=1

17,000 a month!

(Or $804,000 over the four year period.)

Then $13,000 a month for another two years ($312,000).

He'd have to have paid well over a cool million to an empowered female lawyer.

For doing nothing.

That's not money they earned together. I actually have sympathy for women who help a man build his business and act as a business partner. It's only fair to split some of the profits based on the respective partners' contributions.

But that's money he would have earned after the divorce from working on his own.

Mind blowing.

[DarkTriad]

(05-19-2013 08:45 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

You should read up on Thomas Ball. He set himself on fire (and died) on the steps leading up to the court house on the day of his 'Contempt of Court' hearings. It was the final straw in his ongoing divorce proceedings which had been going on for ten year.

Before his death he sent a 15 page letter to the local press. The story deserved to be worldwide news.

This is a key paragraph from his letter:

Quote:

“Any one swept up into legal mess is usually astonished at what they see. They cannot believe what the police, prosecutors and judges are doing. It is so blatantly wrong. Well, I can assure you that everything they do is logical and by the[ir] book. The confusion you have with them is you both are using different sets of books. You are using the old First Set of Books - the Constitution, the general laws or statutes and the court ruling sometime call Common Law. They are using the newer Second Set of Books. That is the collection of the policy, procedures and protocols.”

Full details here:

http://www.sott.net/article/230088-New-H...ice-System

Total media blackout. Angry feminists even deleted his Wikipedia page.

[DarkTriad]

(05-19-2013 07:02 PM)Celtic Wrote:  

I still get why people who get caught in these situations don't just slaves. If they're going to make you a slave to your ex-wife- slavery is not a new thing here, but why not at least try running away from massa?

He could go work under the table for cash in some boomtown in North Dakota. He could walk across the Mexican border and teach English. Hell, he could use American status to run drugs. But at least try making a run and living in a freedom.

Stockholm Syndrome. They're shamed into thinking it's their fault and they keep feeding the beast until they're too broke to run. The state now seizes your passport when you owe money. Then it's too late to run, and you just get ground down by the system.

[DarkTriad]

(05-19-2013 07:02 PM)Celtic Wrote:  

I still get why people who get caught in these situations don't just slaves. If they're going to make you a slave to your ex-wife- slavery is not a new thing here, but why not at least try running away from massa?

He could go work under the table for cash in some boomtown in North Dakota. He could walk across the Mexican border and teach English. Hell, he could use American status to run drugs. But at least try making a run and living in a freedom.

It's an arrest warrant, not not a simple garnishment. North Dakota is out.

[Vacancier Permanent]

This is beyond infuriating! The worst is that this only confirms that American women are totally bankrupt as a human being, void of any decency and no conscience left in them. My God, 17K a month while she is the head of the IP department of a law firm? I'm sure she must be hurting financially and eating peanut butter sandwiches and living in a shelter. Poor little thing.

(05-19-2013 06:16 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

(05-19-2013 05:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Wow, they can go after retirement funds too? That is slavery.

Retirement funds are just a type of savings account. If they were accumulated during the marriage then they must be split just like other savings. And not getting married in the Anglosphere and specially not to a lawyer!

I don't know why the spousal support and alimony were so high. But I'm sure there are many deadbeat dads who hide income. They usually cough up the money when faced with prison. So judges must threaten prison in many cases.

What a

It should be part of the basic requirements of a Red Pill Man to have all his assets and money moved to an offshore account to keep them beyond the reaches of those bloody vampires! Want to get married? Do it in a non anglosphere country to a local woman and KEEP HER THERE! Do not under any circumstances bring her to the corrupted wasted land that is the Anglosphere! This is simply survival 101 for Men in the 21st century!

[cardguy]

(05-20-2013 12:28 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(05-19-2013 08:45 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

You should read up on Thomas Ball. He set himself on fire (and died) on the steps leading up to the court house on the day of his 'Contempt of Court' hearings. It was the final straw in his ongoing divorce proceedings which had been going on for ten year.

Before his death he sent a 15 page letter to the local press. The story deserved to be worldwide news.

This is a key paragraph from his letter:

Quote:

“Any one swept up into legal mess is usually astonished at what they see. They cannot believe what the police, prosecutors and judges are doing. It is so blatantly wrong. Well, I can assure you that everything they do is logical and by the[ir] book. The confusion you have with them is you both are using different sets of books. You are using the old First Set of Books - the Constitution, the general laws or statutes and the court ruling sometime call Common Law. They are using the newer Second Set of Books. That is the collection of the policy, procedures and protocols.”

Full details here:

http://www.sott.net/article/230088-New-H...ice-System

Total media blackout. Angry feminists even deleted his Wikipedia page.

So true. I mentioned in another post that he didn't even get a wikipedia page. If it had being a woman who had done this, she would have a statue built to her on the White House lawn.

[Akula]

(05-20-2013 12:40 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

This is beyond infuriating! The worst is that this only confirms that American women are totally bankrupt as a human being, void of any decency and no conscience left in them. My God, 17K a month while she is the head of the IP department of a law firm? I'm sure she must be hurting financially and eating peanut butter sandwiches and living in a shelter. Poor little thing.

(05-19-2013 06:16 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

(05-19-2013 05:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Wow, they can go after retirement funds too? That is slavery.

Retirement funds are just a type of savings account. If they were accumulated during the marriage then they must be split just like other savings. And not getting married in the Anglosphere and specially not to a lawyer!

I don't know why the spousal support and alimony were so high. But I'm sure there are many deadbeat dads who hide income. They usually cough up the money when faced with prison. So judges must threaten prison in many cases.

What a

It should be part of the basic requirements of a Red Pill Man to have all his assets and money moved to an offshore account to keep them beyond the reaches of those bloody vampires! Want to get married? Do it in a non anglosphere country to a local woman and KEEP HER THERE! Do not under any circumstances bring her to the corrupted wasted land that is the Anglosphere! This is simply survival 101 for Men in the 21st century!

Right on brotha!!

It's no joke to you younger guys on the forum, don't think it is, I know a ton of my ex college buddies who got utterly screwed in divorce proceeding by their ex's who either got incredibly demanding/fat/distant/had post-partem depression/got hooked on medication/cheated or whatever. It's real, happens every day and can happen to you. I know that sucks but it's the reality in America and most of the West unfortunately...the governments, Feminists and draconian anti-male laws have literally driven men out of the marriage market.

[clever alias]

as someone with no law experience at all, im curious what would.happen if right before a divorce initiated you signed over a bunch of assets to a trusted family member?

[Dr. Howard]

@clever alias. You can't move it so close to the divorce, there should always be some with the trusted family member.

Anyway, this video was intense. What struck me is that this guy is a guy who follows all of the rules and the fact that they are working against him or broken is lost on him. Maybe he was thinking that family court would be like Tax court where the letter of the law is pretty strict and its a numbers game vs. family court where its whatever a judge feels like that day.

There was a red pill dangling in front of him and I was hoping that he would flip out and realize his normal life is over and drop out of normal society. Instead he's got a black and white view of his options and is focused on recovering what he was doing before when its just not an option. Dude's wearing slacks to the thunderdome.

[Menace]

I'm not an expert on trusts & estates, but suppose you were to form some kind of trust with a third party trustee (someone you trusted). Then you transfer ownership of your substantial retirement account to the trust, where only the trustee can make investment decisions (of course with your consent). Reachable by a QDRO? Alternatively, would it be better to form a corporation and sign the assets over to the corp? Could a QDRO pierce the corporate veil?

It seems that someone would have thought of these things already, or there is case law on it. I don't know.

[A War You Cannot Win]

Murder seems to be almost logical at this point. Would you not resist those who seek to enslave you and have you toil away in a cube, rotting away while stripped all of profit?

Man is still a violent creature deep down inside. It is our nature, no matter how emasculated the powers that be seek to render us.

[kdolo]

(05-21-2013 02:49 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

Murder seems to be almost logical at this point. Would you not resist those who seek to enslave you and have you toil away in a cube, rotting away while stripped all of profit?

Man is still a violent creature deep down inside. It is our nature, no matter how emasculated the powers that be seek to render us.

Hence the police state - total surveillance grid - and purposeful erosion of liberties.

The PTB know exactly what and how people - MEN - will eventually react and they are preparing for it. see Homeland Security - bullet purchases.

[A War You Cannot Win]

A country at war with its own subjects, a true paradigm of stability. If it comes to that, war in the streets, homeland security erecting a police state in major cities, the US will fall even quicker.

I, and many others have seen just how badly a determined insurgence and a few home made bombs can derail a mighty power.

[PoosyWrecker]

(05-20-2013 08:05 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Honestly, I don't understand why these judges, ex-wives and district attorneys don't get offed in a country that is packed with guns.

Being enslaved, living with violent criminals that can rape you often and brutally for an economic crime is ridiculous in the first place. When this happens for not paying 20,000 dollars a month to some crazy, money hungry whore, that deserves the people responsible to be executed.

When you breach someone's rights like that, you can't expect your rights to be respected. Fucked up.

Not a lot of fathers are going to whack the mother of their own kids especially when she has custody.

[Timoteo]

(05-21-2013 03:52 PM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 08:05 AM)sixsix Wrote:  

Honestly, I don't understand why these judges, ex-wives and district attorneys don't get offed in a country that is packed with guns.

Being enslaved, living with violent criminals that can rape you often and brutally for an economic crime is ridiculous in the first place. When this happens for not paying 20,000 dollars a month to some crazy, money hungry whore, that deserves the people responsible to be executed.

When you breach someone's rights like that, you can't expect your rights to be respected. Fucked up.

Not a lot of fathers are going to whack the mother of their own kids especially when she has custody.

...and the spouse/ex-spouse is always suspect #1 unless it's obvious it wasn't them.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I'd frame the new alpha badboy lover. Wouldn't be too hard especially if he has a prior record. Two birds with one stone.

[samsamsam]

(05-21-2013 02:32 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I'm not an expert on trusts & estates, but suppose you were to form some kind of trust with a third party trustee (someone you trusted). Then you transfer ownership of your substantial retirement account to the trust, where only the trustee can make investment decisions (of course with your consent). Reachable by a QDRO? Alternatively, would it be better to form a corporation and sign the assets over to the corp? Could a QDRO pierce the corporate veil?

It seems that someone would have thought of these things already, or there is case law on it. I don't know.

I am not an expert either. But what little I have read indicates that an irrevocable trust may be a way to do it. I am not sure if fraudulent conveyance would also be an issue doing it so last minute. Even prenups don't do much any more.

I think putting assets into an irrevocable trust would be the most powerful way (aside from just giving it away). You would remain the beneficiary but not the owner.