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The Truth about the invasion of Europe
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The Truth about the invasion of Europe

Well, we can test the Jewish thesis by evaluating Germany. They pretty much exterminated all of their Jews and Jews are afraid of Germans to this day.

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Does Germany do anything through the EU to stop the masses of illegal Islamic immigration that comes in through Greece?

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I tend to see this as an example of playing both sides of the field and analogous to the sort of financial chicanery that led to the 2008 economic meltdown. Heads I win, tails you lose, so to speak.

A very good point. No matter what the majority of whites choose (pro-immigration or anti-immigration), the Jews remain in power.

Well, I suppose if you don't get along with Jews, you can always move to China...

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#77

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Quote: (05-10-2013 08:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Well, I suppose if you don't get along with Jews, you can always move to China...

Well who the fuck is stopping you. Git.

Good to see that another thread about problems caused by Muslims has devolved into anti-Semitism.

Just keep making it up as you go along.
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#78

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Anyone else read this article today:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest...charities/
It's just perplexing to me why exactly the media/ policy makers are so pro mass immigration. Is it because they bring a short term GDP increase?
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#79

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Quote: (05-10-2013 09:10 AM)Cyr Wrote:  

Anyone else read this article today:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest...charities/
It's just perplexing to me why exactly the media/ policy makers are so pro mass immigration. Is it because they bring a short term GDP increase?
It's not perplexing at all. And the same shit has been going on in the US for years. Minneapolis has the world's largest Somali population outside Somalia. Who is one of the primary culprits behind this? Catholic Charities. Why? Because they get money from the US taxpayers via the State Department to import as many of those fuckers as they possibly can under the guise of "refugee". Why do the policy makers support this? Easy. Potential voters. So you can't win the hearts and minds of one demographic bloc? That's fine. Just bring in a new demographic bloc, kiss their ass, and they'll be loyal to you and your party. But here's where it really gets fucked up. It works for politicians on both sides. Going back to Minneapolis which has the aforementioned problem. The congressional district for Minneapolis has a Muslim congressman. That's no surprise condering what you now know about the place. But the district just north of Minneapolis is the district of Michelle Bachmann, psycho teabagger extraordinaire. On the surface, there's never been an immigration plan she's ever supported. But in reality, she needs that Somali infestation in Minneapolis just as much as the muslim congressman from Minneapolis. Why? Because she's a crazy bitch who is only in office because she knows how to manipulate the fears of her predominantly white American midwestern constituency. They see Minneapolis turning into a hellhole right under their noses, and they fear that it's only a matter of time before the Somalis start encroaching on their territory. So they vote for her because she pretends to be against mass immigration. So she needs the Somalis there so she can keep constituents whipped into a frenzy and keep voting for her. Because why else would anyone vote for her?

Why does the media support it? Dump thousands of Somalis into a place like Minneapolis and what is the result? Chaos. Chaos makes for interesting news. Interesting news=ratings. Ratings=money. The ruling elites also like chaos, as long as they're the ones controlling the chaos.

In the end, it's happening because a handful of people get power and/or monetary profit from these shit policies, while everyone else gets fucked.
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#80

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Having lived in multiple European countries I can say this scenario is happening nearly everywhere, Scandinavia, Germany, UK, France, Holland.. Its caused by a lack of pride, the fear of being "racist" and welfare systems that have gotten way out of hand. In southern Europe its less bad than in the north, simply because the people are more proud there and dont let their own get screwed over. In countries like France, Holland and England there are some political parties that say they want change but in practise they never really get much done. Makes me fucking sad to say it but these countries have it coming to themselves.

Btw pointing at the jews for problems like these is just a ridiculous conspiracy, there are not nearly enough of them left in Europe to actually run things.
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#81

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Quote: (05-10-2013 09:10 AM)Cyr Wrote:  

Anyone else read this article today:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest...charities/
It's just perplexing to me why exactly the media/ policy makers are so pro mass immigration. Is it because they bring a short term GDP increase?

Yeah, it's part of it. Ironically it's the left who support this more, when it is them who claim to protect the working class. Here's where Marxism gets into it though, Marxism and Internationalism come hand in hand, so it doesn't matter whether it's Tony in London, Bob in Newcastle, or Tariq in Islamabad (living in London)...'Workers of the World Unite' and all that. 2 of my best mates are here as a product of immigration...selective immigration though, not mass. What has happened since around the year 2000 is fucking madness. People blame the Labour party in the UK, but I believe the blame lies with the EU also, because its happening in all the Northern Euro nation states.

If big business and politicians etc didn't benefit from mass immigration and multiculturalism, it would be fine to criticize it. The reason you aren't is because big business owns the media etc. I think if you showed the 2013 demographics of London to a WW2 soldier, I honestly think he would have said "Fuck it, let 'em invade... the generation we're about to save will sell out our grandkids to the globalists". He may not have used the word 'globalists' though!

Edit - The above thing about demographics makes it sounds like I'm angry about the Carribians and Indians (and decent Pakistanis, who integrated back then) coming over in the middle of the last century, I'm not. I'm talking specifically about the way we're overly accommodating of Somalis and backwards Pakistanis and putting up with shit like 'The Muslim Patrol', where it gets barely a whisper in the mainstream media, but the moment a non-Muslim criticizes Islam in this country it's a witch hunt. Oh the irony.

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#82

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Quote: (05-10-2013 09:10 AM)Sabra Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 08:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Well, I suppose if you don't get along with Jews, you can always move to China...

Good to see that another thread about problems caused by Muslims has devolved into anti-Semitism.

People are speculating as to who pushed to have Islamic immigration in the first place.

Therapasid suggested it was the Jews. If you don't like that thesis you can try to show otherwise. But there's no doubt that Jews are extremely left-wing and push for these sort of immigration policies.

Zero need to get butthurt bro. This isn't antisemitism, this is evaluating political choices of groups.

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#83

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Quote: (05-10-2013 11:49 AM)misello Wrote:  

Btw pointing at the jews for problems like these is just a ridiculous conspiracy, there are not nearly enough of them left in Europe to actually run things.

Yeah, that's why I asked these questions...

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Well, we can test the Jewish thesis by evaluating Germany. They pretty much exterminated all of their Jews and Jews are afraid of Germans to this day.

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Does Germany do anything through the EU to stop the masses of illegal Islamic immigration that comes in through Greece?

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#84

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Yep.






And no doubt the people she is talking about are on welfare. Islamists ALWAYS are.





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#85

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Quote: (05-09-2013 01:02 PM)iWin Wrote:  

Always absent in the context of sensationalistic and propagandic articles like this are the reason why Africans and Arabs are migrating to Europe. Quite simply it because Europeans have plundered the lands that those people have come from while simultaneously subverting grassroots movements and legitimate democratic processes in the name of exploitation of resources.

No one ever wants to mention neo-colonialism and undermining of socio-economic policies that leave those poor countries in ruin(ex. installing dictatorships, environmental ruin via multinationals, IMF/World Bank disastrous economic advice). Now obviously if you colonize a country and leave your cultural imprint you have established an everlasting link with those countries so it is only natural that the first place they look is where there are : a) better opportunities b)a common denominator like language. Europeans sound silly crying about "invasion" of their lands when they have only done that voraciously on other peoples soil since the beginning of time, while destroying everything in their wake from cultures to economies to entire populations.

Sure it is natural to feel threatened when foreign entities try to assimilate in your culture, but the thing is that Europeans would be in denial if they didn't acknowledge that they are complicit in this phenomenon. Europeans created these circumstances and now must live with them. By not giving people the right to create their own destinies you risk exactly what is happening.
When did Europe colonize Turkey or Kurdistan?

When did America colonize Mexico or Latin America?

Is it easy to live life blaming Whitey for everything?

Just accept the fact that European colonization vastly improved the standard of living for the majority of those living in Asia and Africa. Why are these people moving to Europe and America now is a simple economic reason, not racism or evil bankers. The west is where the capital is, whether it be in a job or easily obtained government benefits. It isn't rocket science.

As to saying Turkey isn't White, statistically it probably isn't that much different from the United States at this point in the number of White people.
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#86

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:28 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Yep.






And no doubt the people she is talking about are on welfare. Islamists ALWAYS are.




Why complain about welfare, why don't you just stop paying for it? These "islamists" seem to have the right idea, better to use the resources available to your environment than scrounge them.

Maybe they have read Captain Capitalism's "Enjoy The Decline".
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#87

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Quote: (05-10-2013 07:49 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Anyone else bored of white people who abandoned religion and the family complaining about foreigners who still uphold their religion and family traditions?

If all you're left with of European culture is your skin tone and some banal commitment to liberal democracy (the latter by definition can be claimed by anyone of any ethnic group) you've already lost.

Anyway, it's time people stopped being scared and started asking who the "rulers of white countries" really are.

It is generally those you can't criticize(See hate speech laws in Europe)
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It's not as if I have the power to stop welfare payments is it? Or a random German guy in his country. What do you mean, scrounging is exactly what they do. They scrounge off a welfare state built by a culturally homogeneous society, by people who had no idea this was going to happen. Socialism of this type works better in socially, culturally, and probably racially, homogeneous society where people don't see 'sharing' as giving something to 'the other'.

I'm not a racial nationalist, nor am I really a nationalist, but I do know what has been happening to the West has been caused by a globalist trans-national capitalism combining itself with Internationalist cultural marxism. I think it's known as Communitarianism or something.

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#89

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:28 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Yep.

Where inane internet chatter and tired conspiracy theories meet cold hard fact and reality.

Good post Teedub. Some people are scared of the real problem and need to create a boogeyman to blame for their fears. Good to see that others are willing to face the truth.
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#90

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:48 PM)Sabra Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 12:28 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Yep.

Where inane internet chatter and tired conspiracy theories meet cold hard fact and reality.

Good post Teedub. Some people are scared of the real problem and need to create a boogeyman to blame for their fears. Good to see that others are willing to face the truth.

The problem is Islam, and it will always be Islam unless it begins to reform itself. Which it won't because the Koran is considered the literal word of God. But, Israel isn't perfect either Sabra, far from it. I'm an atheist so I couldn't care less for what holy book is better than the other, but I do know that a Jew is tens of times more likely to win a Nobel Peace Prize or something than a Muslim.

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As to saying Turkey isn't White, statistically it probably isn't that much different from the United States at this point in the number of White people.

You are correct. I would not call America a white country.

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#92

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Quote: (05-10-2013 09:10 AM)Sabra Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 08:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Well, I suppose if you don't get along with Jews, you can always move to China...

Well who the fuck is stopping you. Git.

Good to see that another thread about problems caused by Muslims has devolved into anti-Semitism.

Just keep making it up as you go along.

I’m from Turkey, and have nothing against Jews or Judaism. I would never tolerate some Jewish guy getting crap for his ethnicity/religion, but just as there's nothing anti-Turkish about raising issues about Turkish immigrants in part or in whole in Germany, there's nothing anti-Semitic about pointing out the fact that Jews in Western countries have had significant roles in the changing of immigration practices.

CSULB Evolutionary Psychology Professor Kevin Macdonald discusses Jews and immigration reform in the United States





Another heavily Jewish-led political and social movement that directly relates to this forum is feminism. Macdonald discusses how Jewish intellectual movements have been used to specifically advance Jewish interests at the expense of whites – It’s a 6 part interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ScVv5PukA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViYuWxMyNMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfdF0ALjOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry2tlKG_mSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy3rxvOzA4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifuvKf-mcHw

Some of Macdonald’s recent articles below.
This one discusses what was mentioned above, that European females are often attracted to the socially dominant Muslims immigrants.

“Muslims dominate the natives on the streets of Norway”

It's interesting how Israel doesn't practice the same liberal immigration policies that powerful Jewish groups connected to Israel have historically fought for in Western nations.

“Jewish groups endorse immigration amnesty”

The reason I occasionally read from Macdonald is because he offers outstanding and politically incorrect intellectual insight. He often critiques feminism and explains the role of monogamy in shaping European civilization and how it differs from more sexually competitive societies.

“Monogamy and the Uniqueness of European Civilization”
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The Jews of Israel are quite different than the Jews of America. Israeli Jews tend to be more conservative in general. There are growing numbers of libertarian and conservative groups in America. There is also huge difference in view points between the secular and observants as well. For all intent and purposes the majority of secular Jews are more statists than Jewish. They view the state almost like a religion.
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#94

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:56 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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As to saying Turkey isn't White, statistically it probably isn't that much different from the United States at this point in the number of White people.

You are correct. I would not call America a white country.

Fair enough, if you account for all the Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis, and Iranians that call themselves White, I would say Whites, by the traditional definition, are closer to 50%. They are Caucasian though. We might as well at this point change the Census to reflect Caucasian, not White, since everyone doesn't really understand the difference at this point. You can be Caucasian, but not be White.

However, I would disagree with your assessment of the Turkish National Team, I think at least 5, ok maybe 4 of those guys are White, by which I mean European looking. Some of those guys are obviously not Caucasian though, not fully, given their obvious asiatic features like the eyes.
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You guys talk about "white" as if it's the color that has anything to do with the power of European (and thus North American) culture.

A "white" Turk, Armenian, Iranian, Georgian, Bosnian or whatever is missing one thing that Europe has, and that is a Renaissance where the culture flourished due to deep thought and specialized education.

Hell, even Russia was a backwater until their mission to become more like the West.

White has nothing to do with it.

The Renaissance was promoting rationality over stupid ideology. Europe has gone back to stupid ideologies, and until rationality comes back to the people, and people are free to have conversations without being afraid of being labeled, nothing good is going to happen.
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Also-

Most of these problems deal with the lower classes. The upper classes don't care as much because they don't need to care; they can simply avoid the problem.

And since when in history have the upper classes cared about the plight of the underclasses?

Rich people are living better than ever, outsourcing their union/workers problems to far off lands where they don't have to hear about the problems anymore. Why would they, all of a sudden, look at the people who they used purely for their utility in some sort of new "white" light? Particularly now that they don't offer the same utility.

The upper classes don't have a national identity. Okay, some do, but the upper classes of the world have more in common with each other than their "lesser" national counterparts.

When you meet rich Iranians, Turks, Chinese, Russians, Italians, French, or whatever, they will get along much better in their cosmopolitan cliques than you can imagine. Point being, it's not so much of an ethnic issue, but an issue of class.

The lower classes in their respective countries feel "betrayed" but since when is this a new issue? Since when did the rich kids start caring about the poor kids?
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Quote: (05-10-2013 03:37 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

Also-

Most of these problems deal with the lower classes. The upper classes don't care as much because they don't need to care; they can simply avoid the problem.

And since when in history have the upper classes cared about the plight of the underclasses?

Rich people are living better than ever, outsourcing their union/workers problems to far off lands where they don't have to hear about the problems anymore. Why would they, all of a sudden, look at the people who they used purely for their utility in some sort of new "white" light? Particularly now that they don't offer the same utility.

The upper classes don't have a national identity. Okay, some do, but the upper classes of the world have more in common with each other than their "lesser" national counterparts.

When you meet rich Iranians, Turks, Chinese, Russians, Italians, French, or whatever, they will get along much better in their cosmopolitan cliques than you can imagine. Point being, it's not so much of an ethnic issue, but an issue of class.

The lower classes in their respective countries feel "betrayed" but since when is this a new issue? Since when did the rich kids start caring about the poor kids?

Agreed, I have to unfortunately agree with the Marxists on this, class transcends race.
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#98

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Quote: (05-10-2013 12:28 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 12:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Does Germany have high rates of low quality immigrants?

Does Germany have a welfare system that is highly abused?

Yep.






And no doubt the people she is talking about are on welfare. Islamists ALWAYS are.




And I keep wondering why there are so many IRT haters and Turkey apologists on this forum given which demographic is ruining Western Europe and turning Eastern Europe into a sausagefest.

I'm curious to see where this discussion goes...this forum has become so much more then when it initially started - you can never separate politics and game. Exhibit E or F in the manosphere coming of age.
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Quote: (05-10-2013 08:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2013 07:49 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Anyway, it's time people stopped being scared and started asking who the "rulers of white countries" really are.

I know you're hinting at the Jews, because they're the ones who own the media, but do you really believe they can be stopped? The damage done by the Jews pushing the "multicultural" and "mass immigration" agenda has been so severe and complete that even if we deported every Jew today, there would still be a million non-Jews willing to uphold the cause.

The rulers of the whites are simply the richest men, who are generally Jews today but could be anyone in 50 years from now.

For hundreds of years, the whites at the top have been using the Jewish people to oppress the whites at the bottom. This has not changed.

After WW2, the value of labour in Europe rose significantly. This result ed in increased living standard for working people, and the welfare state. From the 1960s onwards, mass immigration from Asia, Africa and the Carribbean began. The result was that there was a greater quantity of labour in Europe, therefore labour was less valuable.

Do you get what I'm trying to say? When you get to the top, it simply becomes about power, and the maintenance of power. Cultural Marxism is just the means.

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Quote: (05-10-2013 07:42 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (05-08-2013 08:44 AM)j r Wrote:  

According to this, Norway is IRT paradise. That sounds suspect. One thing that I've noticed about white nationalists is that they all seem to assume that white woman have suddenly developed a brown fetish.

Actually, white women do go for these Islamic men because they can beat and intimidate these women with zero fear of repercussion from the state. The state, and it's PC bullshit, will ignore these crimes in fear of looking racist.

I talked about how Tamerlane was charged with domestic violence and yet was let go, and his wife still took him:

http://www.returnofkings.com/9968/the-am...l-time-low

Then Roosh validated my analysis when he provided me with this link showing that 75 percent of all Islamic converts each year are overwhelmingly women:

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/s...ting-islam

The rulers of white countries are literally betraying their own population in order to maintain control over it.

That Clarion article is a case of first class fear-mongering with very little real information to back it up. First it says that a "staggering number of women" are converting to Islam. It doesn't offer a number, though. Instead it says that " tens of thousands of Westerners" convert to Islam every ear. How many people are there in theWest? Just counting Europe and North America gives you about 1.4 billion people. And how many is tens of thousands? Ten thousand? A hundred thousand? Let's split the difference and say that 55,000 westerners convert to Islam every year. That's .004 percent of the population.

Staggering, right?

Amd getting beyond the numbers, you have to look at why people are converting. When people who aren't very religous themselves marry people of other religions they often "convert" on paper just so the marriage will be recognized in the other person's religion. That article talks about "dozens" of cases of women being radicalized. Dozens. Again, out of a population of 1.4 billion people. If you look hard enough you can find dozens of cases of women marrying their cats.
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