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The Truth about the invasion of Europe
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The Truth about the invasion of Europe

“Everything You Have Learned in School is Wrong”
Posted on May 1, 2013 by Baron Bodissey


Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer has translated an article from Rights.no about the ghastly predicament in which young Norwegians find themselves within heavily culturally enriched districts of Oslo.

Well-off natives can afford to move to safe, pleasant white enclaves, where they may send their children to school among white native speakers of Norwegian. Less affluent citizens are not so fortunate, however, and are forced to endure the humiliation and degradation of the Multicultural behavioral sink in which their political masters have consigned them to live.

The translator includes this introductory note:

This report shows the real consequences of the enormous betrayal of their people by the ruling elites in Norway. Sadly, the same thing goes on in every Western European country today, and on both sides of the Atlantic.

There is something seriously wrong with politicians who actively pursue policies that have such horrific outcomes. Nor is this ground-breaking information that is being presented in this article — it has been going on for a couple of decades now in Norway.

The politicians know it, but they keep their mouths shut and let the vulnerable ‘youths’ pay the price for their betrayal.

As a matter of interest, Finansavisen (which published the original piece) is one of the very few newspapers in Norway that don’t receive press subsidies. Every Norwegian newspaper journalist is subsidized by the authorities to the tune of $75,000 per year. Which is perhaps also why (as far as I know) no other MSM newspaper has covered this story — for them, Norwegian ‘racism’ against non-Norwegians is all that matters.

The translated article:

Norwegian boys in the new Norway

Over the past few weeks, Finansavisen [Financial Newspaper] has focused on immigration and its economic consequences. We have commented on several of these previously. Last weekend the journalists Kjell Erik Eilertsen, Ole Asbjørn Ness and the photographer Iván Kverme left behind their calculators and computers and met with some of the individuals who are growing up in the new Norway. They decided to focus on the youngsters, Norwegian boys, who are growing up in the most immigrant-dense area of Norway — Groruddalen [Grorud valley] in Oslo. And they have produced an article that other media would probably refuse to print.

Groruddalen is an area that covers four neighborhoods: Stovner, Alna, Grorud and Bjerke. All the neighborhoods have an immigrant population approaching 50 percent.

Finansavisen has made contact with two young boys in the “valley”. One of them, Marius Sørvik, has decided to go public, and his name and picture appear in the newspaper. The other one has decided to remain anonymous. Finansavisen refers to him as “Andreas”. One boy was interviewed twice and the other one on three occasions. They were given copies of the article to read through before it was published, and confirmed that they have been quoted correctly. In addition to this Andreas’ father has read the article and given the newspaper the approval to publish his son’s story.

Two different worlds in 35 minutes

When the decision to travel to Groruddalen was finally made, Finansavisen decided that the journalists should travel there in the manner that most of the youths choose, namely by riding the subway train. The trip from Smestad to Stovner takes approximately 35 minutes, according to Finansavisen, and I guess that during the journey they were shown two different worlds.

When they arrive in Stovner, they hear the voice of “Andreas”:

“A few weeks ago,” he says, “I was entering the schoolyard. They were attacking Lars. There’s a whole heap of them. They always attack as a group. They are dogs, they hunt in packs. They are beating him up. I run in between them and I punch one of them. Then someone comes rushing to and separates us, and yet again I’m being hauled off to the principal’s office, and yet again I am being told that even if they punch us we are not supposed to retaliate. Do you know how insanely provocative such a statement is?”

Finansavisen‘s description of Andreas leaves no room for doubt:

He is sixteen. He is angry. He’s scared. He is brave. He is tired. He wants to tell. He’s got the face of a boy and the eyes of a man.

“I would have gone public with my full identity had it not been for the fact that I have younger siblings. People need to realize what it is like to grow up here,” he says.

Home is a place somewhere in Groruddalen. That’s where he grew up. He spends one week at his mother’s place and the next one at his father’s place. His stepfather is nice. His father is great. His mother is great, but naïve.

That is not the problem. This area is what’s the problem.

“My mum told me that it would be good for me to grow up here. I would get to know the new Norway, get to know different cultures.”

Then we are introduced to Marius Sørvik.

He is nineteen. He is articulate. He is brave. He’s scared. He is weak. He is successful. He has dropped out of school. He has a beard. He is too young to have beard. He is pretty in the eyes of young girls. He is only 19, but he has made four movies. He earns money. Right now he is staying with his mum.

He came to Groruddalen from Fredrikstad when he was one year old. Soon he’ll move back to Fredrikstad.

“They are to be pitied”

The boys have difficulties defining themselves, “the others” and animal metaphors are often used:

They both belong to an animal species that is rapidly diminishing in Groruddalen. They do what all animals do: Come up with survival strategies. Trying to find a way to show off their feathers in all its glory, run and hide when they are outnumbered.

Human nature: The wish to retaliate: revenge, vengeance, one day they might be the strongest, and not be outnumbered. Them. Against them. The others. Strangers with Norwegian passports. The ones they were told to be considerate of when they attended elementary school. Their species has as of yet not been officially labelled. For want of a better term, we chose to use the term that Marius uses to describe himself, a young ethnic Norwegian male.

“All the teachers told me, the principal told me, if I had an altercation with them I had to understand that they were to be pitied, that they came from countries where there had been war. I thought that he was joking. Their grandparents emigrated from Pakistan. So if I hit someone no one would scold me because my grandfather had been a member of the Norwegian Resistance Movement? But I believed in it.”

Duped by the school

The elementary school in Groruddalen is a pleasant experience for both of them in the beginning. They sing the songs, they believe in the songs, they live the songs. Then it starts to sound false, the childhood comes to an end, fifth grade:

“You discover who you are,” says Andreas.

“People are different; everything you have learned in school is wrong,” says Marius.

You have the ethnic Norwegian boys, and then there are the others. Faced with these two choices, the two boys chose different strategies:

Marius’ strategy

He doesn’t lower his head. He refuses to take any crap. He answers back. He’s loudmouthed. He is who he is. It does not matter. But that’s not why they target him. It is an autumn evening in seventh grade. He is playing tennis. When he leaves the court to collect some tennis balls they appear. They are seven or eight Somalis. The beat the crap out of him, he has to get new teeth put in.

Marius doesn’t slow down. He calls a Roma girl a gypsy, something that isn’t appreciated. When her brothers and cousins come for him, he hides in the principal’s office. It has begun.



Andreas’ strategy

He lowers his gaze, he wants to be like them, talk like them, he alters his language, limits his vocabulary, makes deliberate spelling mistakes — ‘an school’, kebab-Norwegian, buys a soft gun, wants to be like the older, tougher, cool Pakistani guys that have cars and money and no job, why not become a Muslim, become a brother?

He wants to be like them, but he doesn’t become like them, something inside him is resisting.

Fragments: the bad grades in the Norwegian classes, the bad friends, Islam, he notices how they view women, as an object, how they react when he tries to discuss Islam with them, how they talk about respect, but don’t show any respect, how they refer to Norwegians as f***ing Norwegians, whitey, potato; something inside him resists.

He withdraws. They notice that he withdraws. Then it starts.

Constant fear

We learn about the suffering of Marius:

He heads off to school an hour before it starts in the morning. He heads home before it finishes in the afternoon. More episodes, more threats. Fear is not an isolated event, but rather a continuous stream.

In tenth grade he goes to see the doctor and lies about having social anxiety. He is given a medical certificate so he can spend as little time as possible in school. He’s scared. Says that they always come in packs. Says that they always stare when he sees them on the subway when there are twenty of them, and when he gets a girlfriend they cry out to him:

“‘Hey Marius have you got yourself a girlfriend,’ and it’s not the words that are threatening, but the way they are being uttered, do you understand, how they look at me and my girlfriend who starts to cry, do you understand?”

NRK’s “concept” of “our valley”

We are being told that Marius’ fears have subsided, although they can still return:

It has been three years since he graduated from high school. He can still feel a twinge of fear whenever he meets the gangs on the subway, but he doesn’t give a ****, he has made four movies, he says what he thinks, he is who he is, the valley is what it is, he writes op-eds about life in Groruddalen and gets them published in VG and Dagsavisen, he is only nineteen but he has already had a heart attack and he has been interviewed twice by the producers of the Norwegian TV series ‘Dalen Vår’ [‘Our Valley’], Elisabeth Brun (see separate article) to find out if his story fitted in with the story about Groruddalen.

It did not.

“Your views do not fit in with our concept,” she said. That TV series is state-funded propaganda. A documentary where the angle has been determined in advance is no documentary, but a half-mockumentary where they have full control of what is being said. If you are going to tell a story about what a great place Groruddalen is, then you can’t talk to young ethnic Norwegian boys, because most of them will tell you that it is a horrible place.

Worried about murders

Andreas is also suffering, despite attempts at hiding it as much as possible:

He has withdrawn into himself, although he still has a Muslim friend from a very religious family. Let’s call him Omar. He tries to persuade Andreas to become Muslim. Omar tells him about the judgment and the hell that awaits all those who refuse to submit to Islam in time. Omar tells him that he needs to stop enjoying life, but rather prepare himself for the next life. Forsake. But Andreas says that he is wary of Islam; actually it’s more than that: he doesn’t like Islam, not the strictness, vengefulness, its view of women, all the talk about the chastity of women, hijab, not because they want to but because they have to.

They discuss. The discussions descend into verbal altercations.

“He told me that he was going to kill me. I threatened him back.”

Andreas allies himself with ethnic Norwegians in the motorcycle community for protection, a 1% club.

“Had it not been for them he would have killed me.”

Cowardly Muslims

Andreas doesn’t deny that he’s still scared. That he lift weights to gain strength. He also says that he’s contemplating carrying a knife, but that he fears the police knife controls. He says that he’s made deals with his friends, that they will all stand up for each other. Friends who also lift weights and that are into martial arts.

“Muslims don’t fight you on a one-to-one basis. If you meet them alone they are cowards. If I run into Omar alone, he will just walk past me. If I am alone and meet him in a crowd, the best outcome I can hope for is a beating.”

Marius has lifted his gaze. Now he can start to analyze it all.

“There is a hierarchy, where ethnic Norwegian boys are on the bottom rung on the ladder. They will be targeted unless they accede to their rules, if they don’t they become Norwegian immigrants. If a Norwegian boy gets into trouble, odds are that he has a small family and a tiny social network. Unlike a Pakistani or Somali boy, he doesn’t have a clan of brothers and cousins and uncles who come rushing to his aid in the event of a conflict. Most of the time the only thing he has is a single parent.”

Norwegian is weakness, Norwegian culture is on the way out

Andreas believes that the Norwegian culture is being squeezed out.

“Nobody wants to be a Norwegian here. Norwegian is synonymous with weakness. This is a feeling that is also being conveyed by the teachers.

“They are afraid. They don’t dare to speak out. You should have a look at the number of principals that have come and gone at Vestliveien school in recent years, and ask them why they left. They don’t have control, but they do everything to accommodate the Muslim students. In home economics classes everybody has to prepare halal meat. Immigrants do not have to attend ‘NyNorsk’ classes [literally New-Norwegian, which is a different dialect and a different way to write Norwegian — there are two forms of written Norwegian]. I have to attend these classes. The Muslim girls do not have to attend the physical activity classes; because of course they cannot undress in front of other girls. We have to adapt to their culture. They don’t have to adapt to ours.”

Andreas’ views on girls:

“There is one thing that annoys the hell out of me. They can start chasing Norwegian girls, but we cannot go after theirs. It’s something you learn early on. You just don’t go after a Pakistani girl, but Norwegian girls are available to immigrant boys. Norwegian girls prefer them. I don’t know why. I guess it must be that brown skin. That they are tough, that they have money despite not having jobs. They don’t see that they fight in packs, that they are cowards. I asked my best female friend if we could get romantically involved, and she told me that I have the right personality, but the problem was that I’m Norwegian. She wants to become involved with a foreigner.”

He believes that Oslo will eventually become Oslostan.

“It’s not going to happen straightaway, but it that’s the way its going. More and more Muslims arrive here from abroad, and many Norwegians convert. Personally I know of five converts. Here it’s all about Islam; Islam is strong, so why fight it?”

The betrayal and the silence

Andreas says that he feels betrayed. And his conversation with the journalists from Finansavisen is the first time that adults let him speak freely, the first time that he doesn’t have to hold back and place restrictions on himself. He says that he wants to become an actor. He wants to make a movie. Maybe a movie about the real “our valley”. He says that he wants to join the HV youth (the youth division of the National Guard). “He wants the uniform. He craves the authority that a uniform gives. No one messes with a soldier.”

Finansavisen’s reporters suggest that adolescence can be tough for everybody, and they wonder how much of it is actually about growing up in the valley and how much is trauma that many adolescents experience, such as differentness, loneliness and exclusion. They even ask them if they are paranoid — if there really is something to be afraid of. Maybe they have deliberately isolated themselves and gone into hiding and started worshipping imaginary horrors that have replaced reality?

The boys’ response is laughter:

They laugh. They smile. The journalists have not understood.

“It is not imagination when they shout after me, when they threaten me, when they hit me,” says Andreas.

“Are you afraid to walk around alone?”

“I’m not. Not any more,” says Marius.

“There are many places that I don’t go alone. Especially at night,” says Andreas.

We follow Andreas to the subway station.

“Do you see?” he says, and guides our attention to two immigrants. “Do you see how they stare back?”

He’s right. They do stare. We lower our gaze first.

Once again we hear the animal metaphors that permeates their language:

“They are like cats, says Andreas — cats never back down. They challenge you. I get so f***ing mad.”

The subway train arrives. We get on. After a few stop Andreas gets off. We lean back in our seats and try to let the rattle of the train carriage rock us into a kind of sleep. But sleep doesn’t come.

The subway ride from Stovner to Smestad takes approximately 35 minutes.

Epilogue: After having read the draft, Marius gave us a call.

“You can delete the statement that I can walk around safely.”

“Why?”

“I got beat up on the way home from the pub yesterday.”
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A summary would have been nice. The gist to me seems to be poor, ethnic Norwegians are bearing the brunt of Norway's failure to effectively integrate Muslims into broader society. I suppose using the term Islamist would be more intellectually honest - although I am not sure about the terminology. Males are predictably the target of Muslim violence, while ethnic Norwegian females have different views of the Muslim men:

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There is one thing that annoys the hell out of me. They can start chasing Norwegian girls, but we cannot go after theirs. It’s something you learn early on. You just don’t go after a Pakistani girl, but Norwegian girls are available to immigrant boys. Norwegian girls prefer them. I don’t know why. I guess it must be that brown skin. That they are tough, that they have money despite not having jobs. They don’t see that they fight in packs, that they are cowards. I asked my best female friend if we could get romantically involved, and she told me that I have the right personality, but the problem was that I’m Norwegian. She wants to become involved with a foreigner.

Unsurprising and highlights the cultural battles that are growing.

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Quote: (05-08-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

A summary would have been nice. The gist to me seems to be poor, ethnic Norwegians are bearing the brunt of Norway's failure to effectively integrate Muslims into broader society. I suppose using the term Islamist would be more intellectually honest - although I am not sure about the terminology. Males are predictably the target of Muslim violence, while ethnic Norwegian females have different views of the Muslim men:

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There is one thing that annoys the hell out of me. They can start chasing Norwegian girls, but we cannot go after theirs. It’s something you learn early on. You just don’t go after a Pakistani girl, but Norwegian girls are available to immigrant boys. Norwegian girls prefer them. I don’t know why. I guess it must be that brown skin. That they are tough, that they have money despite not having jobs. They don’t see that they fight in packs, that they are cowards. I asked my best female friend if we could get romantically involved, and she told me that I have the right personality, but the problem was that I’m Norwegian. She wants to become involved with a foreigner.

Unsurprising and highlights the cultural battles that are growing.

I'm from a Muslim background and I understand Norwegians and their wish for survival even though I think (non-radical) Islam has the best laws some society needs. Western society has become corrupted, shallow, violent and full of weak males so you can see how the Tamerlan's girl converted herself and how Norwegian girls want Arabs. Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

If the Norwegians change their mindset and stop being "liberal", they will preserve their culture and genes.
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meh. Any society that is so lacking in self-respect and common sense as to allow in hordes of foreigners - especially foreigners from the underclass of the world's most primitive societies - deserves to be destroyed. I just make sure to visit these places now and to take a lot of pictures.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 02:26 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

Quote: (05-08-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

A summary would have been nice. The gist to me seems to be poor, ethnic Norwegians are bearing the brunt of Norway's failure to effectively integrate Muslims into broader society. I suppose using the term Islamist would be more intellectually honest - although I am not sure about the terminology. Males are predictably the target of Muslim violence, while ethnic Norwegian females have different views of the Muslim men:

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There is one thing that annoys the hell out of me. They can start chasing Norwegian girls, but we cannot go after theirs. It’s something you learn early on. You just don’t go after a Pakistani girl, but Norwegian girls are available to immigrant boys. Norwegian girls prefer them. I don’t know why. I guess it must be that brown skin. That they are tough, that they have money despite not having jobs. They don’t see that they fight in packs, that they are cowards. I asked my best female friend if we could get romantically involved, and she told me that I have the right personality, but the problem was that I’m Norwegian. She wants to become involved with a foreigner.

Unsurprising and highlights the cultural battles that are growing.

I'm from a Muslim background and I understand Norwegians and their wish for survival even though I think (non-radical) Islam has the best laws some society needs. Western society has become corrupted, shallow, violent and full of weak males so you can see how the Tamerlan's girl converted herself and how Norwegian girls want Arabs. Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

If the Norwegians change their mindset and stop being "liberal", they will preserve their culture and genes.

Arabs? Most Muslims in Norway are Pakisanis or Somalis.
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I read something ridiculous on the rape epidemic in Norway/Sweden with these Muslims on the native population... something like 90% of the rapes are in Oslo are done by foreigners and on a majority native Norweigian population. Obviously, as a strong American white male with a sense of race, something like that boggles the mind if it is remotely true.. If it was remotely true the muslim population of those countries would recieve retribution, would be branded and would be chased off the lands... But your right, I'm sure white male like me, particularly in Europe, are the minority
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Quote: (05-08-2013 02:26 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

Quote: (05-08-2013 12:55 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

A summary would have been nice. The gist to me seems to be poor, ethnic Norwegians are bearing the brunt of Norway's failure to effectively integrate Muslims into broader society. I suppose using the term Islamist would be more intellectually honest - although I am not sure about the terminology. Males are predictably the target of Muslim violence, while ethnic Norwegian females have different views of the Muslim men:

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There is one thing that annoys the hell out of me. They can start chasing Norwegian girls, but we cannot go after theirs. It’s something you learn early on. You just don’t go after a Pakistani girl, but Norwegian girls are available to immigrant boys. Norwegian girls prefer them. I don’t know why. I guess it must be that brown skin. That they are tough, that they have money despite not having jobs. They don’t see that they fight in packs, that they are cowards. I asked my best female friend if we could get romantically involved, and she told me that I have the right personality, but the problem was that I’m Norwegian. She wants to become involved with a foreigner.

Unsurprising and highlights the cultural battles that are growing.

I'm from a Muslim background and I understand Norwegians and their wish for survival even though I think (non-radical) Islam has the best laws some society needs. Western society has become corrupted, shallow, violent and full of weak males so you can see how the Tamerlan's girl converted herself and how Norwegian girls want Arabs. Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

If the Norwegians change their mindset and stop being "liberal", they will preserve their culture and genes.
I don'#t see anything about arabs, instead i see talk about pakis and somalis, both of whom are problem causers in the UK too. Pakistani men here kidnap and groom girls who are just little children. Somalians here breed at high rates, live off the state and their children go around stabbing and mugging people. I would send all the cunts back home and see how they survive there.

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Quote: (05-08-2013 02:26 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

Advanced how, exactly? Still letting religion rule every aspect of life? (Until they go abroad to get drunk and get laid. I see this firsthand in Indonesia.)
The tantrum over the cartoons didn't strike me as particularly alpha. Nor do their blasphemy laws in general.
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I went to a few Arab/Islam countries before. There was human feces everywhere. Everywhere. I considered that to be symbolic in more ways than one.
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I am wondering why those kind of problem happen mainly in the scandinavian countries. There are a lot of immigration in Canada , USA or Australia with Pakistani community and those countries do not seem to have the same issues as Norway with their immigrants. Does anyone have a clue ?
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According to this, Norway is IRT paradise. That sounds suspect. One thing that I've noticed about white nationalists is that they all seem to assume that white woman have suddenly developed a brown fetish.

Also, people should stop referring to immigration as invasion or genocide. Words have meanings and forgetting that opens the door to very shoddy thinking.
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It might not be genocide, cultural suicide is more accurate. I was driving through my slightly upper middle class suburb today and laughed as I realized the suburbs are beta monuments built to honor second class pussy. And the pussy will destroy them in the end, with hamster brained immigration and housing schemes.
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Very recognizable article. I live also in a arab/nigger ghetto and what they tell is true. The population is mainly male because Muslim girls are kept inside and they wear a niqaab. The few remaining white girls desire one thing: black or arab cock and they go to the alpha black/arabs. The beta arab/niggers fuck cheap prostitutes with the few money they get from welfare and from criminality. The white people who can flights away to cleaner areas. The girls especially because they are not safe.
Civil war is slowly evolving. I only have to look at myself to see what hatred I have developed against "them". I really hope from the depths out of my hearth that one day, the army just kill "them" and feed the bodies to the dogs; since that is the only thing they are good for: animal food. This is what happens if you outbalance society.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 09:23 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

Very recognizable article. I live also in a arab/nigger ghetto and what they tell is true. The population is mainly male because Muslim girls are kept inside and they wear a niqaab. The few remaining white girls desire one thing: black or arab cock and they go to the alpha black/arabs. The beta arab/niggers fuck cheap prostitutes with the few money they get from welfare and from criminality. The white people who can flights away to cleaner areas. The girls especially because they are not safe.
Civil war is slowly evolving. I only have to look at myself to see what hatred I have developed against "them". I really hope from the depths out of my hearth that one day, the army just kill "them" and feed the bodies to the dogs; since that is the only thing they are good for: animal food. This is what happens if you outbalance society.

Ban please.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 08:29 AM)Mac Chicken Wrote:  

I am wondering why those kind of problem happen mainly in the scandinavian countries. There are a lot of immigration in Canada , USA or Australia with Pakistani community and those countries do not seem to have the same issues as Norway with their immigrants. Does anyone have a clue ?

Funny you should say that; you're from France, no? I understand that areas like Marseille and Toulouse are having huge problems with immigrant crime, just as bad as anywhere in Scandanavia.

Anyway, I think that the problems are less in the USA because there's a long history of assimilating immigrants into local society.

America took in huge waves of immigrants from Ireland, Poland, Russia, Mexico, etc., and for the most part the culture here is to push them to assimilate quickly. The first generation doesn't always succeed to do so, but the second generation (their kids) usually have good command of English and start working and moving up in class. This means that the 2nd generation already feels more 'American' than 'XXXX' culture or religion.

Also, Norway has a much smaller population than the other countries you mentioned, so the same number of immigrants can have an outsized effect on a neighborhood.

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Ban please.

Yeah. It's shit like that which makes it impossible to have a normal conversation about this stuff online.

Anyway, I want to offer a story from personal experience as food for thought. I knew an American girl, typical naive girl who came to Israel to party and 'spread peace'. She did a peace march through the West Bank and met a local Muslim guy. She ended up moving in with him and his family and they married. While living with his family, he seemed like a good guy - didn't drink, treated her well, worked hard every day, etc.

Well they moved back to the States, and he immediately started going out every night drinking, beat her every night when he came home, picked up prostitutes, didn't work and sat home collecting unemployment. Fortunately she got smart quick and left him, but it's a big problem to deport this guy now that's he's got a foothold in the country. Unfortunately this story is quite common.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 04:35 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

I don'#t see anything about arabs, instead i see talk about pakis and somalis, both of whom are problem causers in the UK too. Pakistani men here kidnap and groom girls who are just little children. Somalians here breed at high rates, live off the state and their children go around stabbing and mugging people. I would send all the cunts back home and see how they survive there.

Why is that though, because I've discussed this before, and you've said it probably isn't the religion, but it has to play a part. Somalia and Pakistan are thousands of miles from each other, but large amounts of their people behave similarly wherever they go in Europe. Always welfare draining and problem causing.

90% of Indians (decent) I know are absolutely top people, completely British etc. It's the opposite with Pakistanis, 10% are top guys, the rest are pretty fucking stupid and have that really irritating accent, no matter where in the country they were raised. You'll know what I mean.

Most middle easterners I know are also sound, and very secular actually. I knew a few guys in Oxford who were from Saudi and got wasted a lot, had to be religious at home but said they were really atheists.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
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Quote:Sabra Wrote:

Anyway, I think that the problems are less in the USA because there's a long history of assimilating immigrants into local society.

America took in huge waves of immigrants from Ireland, Poland, Russia, Mexico, etc., and for the most part the culture here is to push them to assimilate quickly. The first generation doesn't always succeed to do so, but the second generation (their kids) usually have good command of English and start working and moving up in class. This means that the 2nd generation already feels more 'American' than 'XXXX' culture or religion.

What you say is true, but the US does have these issues. http://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Minorit...0813537215

It's something to think about when you see people talk about how the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 11:36 AM)Blaster Wrote:  

Quote:Sabra Wrote:

Anyway, I think that the problems are less in the USA because there's a long history of assimilating immigrants into local society.

America took in huge waves of immigrants from Ireland, Poland, Russia, Mexico, etc., and for the most part the culture here is to push them to assimilate quickly. The first generation doesn't always succeed to do so, but the second generation (their kids) usually have good command of English and start working and moving up in class. This means that the 2nd generation already feels more 'American' than 'XXXX' culture or religion.

What you say is true, but the US does have these issues. http://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Minorit...0813537215

It's something to think about when you see people talk about how the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

America does have these problems, but we're a little better at it. And we have plenty of homegrown assholes, so it's harder for bands of Somalis to get together and terrorize own local shitheads (who will terrorize them right back).

Also, for as much as we like to complain about Mexican immigration, they're basicly hardworking Christians that integrate into our society fairly well and have a lot of pretty girls.

If he were getting the same amount of immigration from Somalia/Pakistan, it would be a nightmare.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 11:44 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

Quote: (05-08-2013 11:36 AM)Blaster Wrote:  

Quote:Sabra Wrote:

Anyway, I think that the problems are less in the USA because there's a long history of assimilating immigrants into local society.

America took in huge waves of immigrants from Ireland, Poland, Russia, Mexico, etc., and for the most part the culture here is to push them to assimilate quickly. The first generation doesn't always succeed to do so, but the second generation (their kids) usually have good command of English and start working and moving up in class. This means that the 2nd generation already feels more 'American' than 'XXXX' culture or religion.

What you say is true, but the US does have these issues. http://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Minorit...0813537215

It's something to think about when you see people talk about how the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

America does have these problems, but we're a little better at it. And we have plenty of homegrown assholes, so it's harder for bands of Somalis to get together and terrorize own local shitheads (who will terrorize them right back).

Also, for as much as we like to complain about Mexican immigration, they're basicly hardworking Christians that integrate into our society fairly well and have a lot of pretty girls.

If he were getting the same amount of immigration from Somalia/Pakistan, it would be a nightmare.

Agreed. I would say the only problem with Mexicans and others from Central and South America lose that identity of being hardworking christians and become corrupted by living in the degenerate American culture. Roosh wrote an article talking about a similar thing happening to EE Women when they immigrate to America, can't find it right now, but a similar thing happens to the children or grandchildren of hispanic immigrants in my opinion.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 02:26 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

I'm from a Muslim background and I understand Norwegians and their wish for survival even though I think (non-radical) Islam has the best laws some society needs. Western society has become corrupted, shallow, violent and full of weak males so you can see how the Tamerlan's girl converted herself and how Norwegian girls want Arabs. Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

If the Norwegians change their mindset and stop being "liberal", they will preserve their culture and genes.

What, like the non-radical Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt that allows women to be raped in Tahrir square and is causing a mass exodus of Coptic Christians?

What a joke - trying to co-opt the manosphere movement to push a 7th century ideology.

We have nothing in common with these people. Just look at what's happening in Bangladesh:
http://observers.france24.com/content/20...ides-dhaka

Following a call by the hard-line Islamic group Hefajat-e-Islam, at least 200,000 people took to the streets of Dhaka to try to pressure the government into adopting strict blasphemy laws, notably the death penalty for bloggers they accuse of insulting the Prophet Muhammad.


I'm pretty sure that given the free-speech tendencies of the Roosh V crowd, we would never want to live in a society where saying the wrong thing could get the death penalty. Think the feminist West is a barrier to speaking your mind? Try a sharia state.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 02:26 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

I'm from a Muslim background and I understand Norwegians and their wish for survival even though I think (non-radical) Islam has the best laws some society needs. Western society has become corrupted, shallow, violent and full of weak males so you can see how the Tamerlan's girl converted herself and how Norwegian girls want Arabs. Arab society is mostly traditional, alpha-enabling and advanced in many areas even though the media reports that they are all screaming sand peasants who blow themselves up.

If the Norwegians change their mindset and stop being "liberal", they will preserve their culture and genes.

Is this a joke?

Arab countries, without the oil wealth would be nothing more than stonehenge v2.0.

Arab culture is not compatible with western culture because we allow freedom of mvoement for our women whilst eastern culture restricts it.

The whole Islamic movement is an example if this. You say you're not part of it but you deem life to be cheap and a matter of course. You never seem to want to stop them.

It then comes down to tribes and ethnic lines. Its no secret about how Muslims hate the other type of muslim but they enjoy coming together when a common enemy is on their doorstep.
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^^^ The only reason why backwards islam is so prevalent today is exactly because of the oil wealth of Saudi Arabia. The Salafists Saudis have managed to spread their more backwards version of islam through the use of their power from wealth.

The Salafist in control of Saudi Arabia are the same ones who destroy ancient shrines to build a giant ass clock hotel that overlooks the main Mecca mosque.
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Well freedom of speech is being slowly stripped away in the Western countries. Especially in universities.
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Quote: (05-08-2013 01:03 PM)kbell Wrote:  

Well freedom of speech is being slowly stripped away in the Western countries. Especially in universities.

I see this too often - responding to criticism of Islam with criticism of the West for something that is of a magnitude less harmful. Yes, feminists and PC are eroding free speech in the West. But is the solution to follow that PC and not criticize other hostile and backwards cultures? No. The solution is to speak your goddamn mind and not give up on your civilization.

Sheesh...every single article I read online about persecution of Christians in the Muslim world and stoning of apostates...you get commenters saying "Radical Muslims are just like radical Christians in Kentucky." Bullshit. When was the last time an outspoken atheist was given a death sentence in the West? How many Christians march in the street calling for the death penalty for those who insult Jesus Christ?

Have some pride in your culture.
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