[Straw Hat Pirate]

Ok, enough stories. We need a datasheet, where do these people congregate?

[philosophical_recovery]

(10-01-2016 10:24 AM)Straw Hat Pirate Wrote:  

Ok, enough stories. We need a datasheet, where do these people congregate?

[Straw Hat Pirate]

Lol, what can I say? Banging a married chick is on the bucket list, for science of course.

[XPQ22]

(10-01-2016 10:39 AM)Straw Hat Pirate Wrote:  

Lol, what can I say? Banging a married chick is on the bucket list, for science of course.

It's honestly more trouble than it's worth. The one girl I hooked up with who was married was hot but all over the map, pushing and pulling ten times as much as a regular girl, asking to meet and then flaking then asking to meet again, looking for validation that what she was doing was OK

nobody has time for this, lady.

[Belgrano]

Stuff like that is nothing new, it happpens since the dawn of civilization and probably even longer.
The only difference is that before the spread of the internet and general degeneracy, people kept it on the down low due to fear of ostracization and punishment.
There's probably not a single fetish that's completely new or was unheard of in the past, at some place, at some time. Maybe the way it's expressed or the object it's focused on (something recently invented, etc.), but not the underlying driving force.
Some people are just wired differently.

[debeguiled]

(10-01-2016 10:39 AM)Straw Hat Pirate Wrote:  

Lol, what can I say? Banging a married chick is on the bucket list, for science of course.

With the husband watching and debasing himself?

Can't you just have an affair like a normal person?

[XPQ22]

(10-01-2016 11:06 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

There's probably not a single fetish that's completely new or was unheard of in the past, at some place, at some time. Maybe the way it's expressed or the object it's focused on (something recently invented, etc.), but not the underlying driving force.
Some people are just wired differently.

Yep, guys sitting around wondering why some chicks are down to have loads blown on their faces, as if it's some brand new thing that was only invented by porn in 1995.

[Malo]

(10-01-2016 10:24 AM)Straw Hat Pirate Wrote:  

Ok, enough stories. We need a datasheet, where do these people congregate?

The vast majority of cuckold chicks are fat and below average looking.

Same goes for chicks in the swinger society by the way.

There are exceptions, but that is unfortunately the norm. Most hot girls are simply not into this type of stuff.

So not only you need to enter the scene, you then need to filter out about 90% of the girls there until you find something bangable.

And then you need to bang, while some dude is watching you and wanking, and wants to lick your anus.

Or if in the swinger scene, you bang a chick surrounded by 5 other cocks trying to get a piece of that chick, at the same time.

Just know what you're walking into

[coverdoc]

I was once offered cash to bang a hot blond chick out ~mid 30s infront of her husband around 1:00 A.M.. They wanted me to drive to their house (really nice part of town). I almost did it until I called my good buddy and he told me not to do it. He explained to me that everything was working against my favor and imagine if the husband orgasms, comes back to reality to see some black guy banging out his wife and mother of his kids. Not a fantasy any more. I opted out and like someone said above, it's plenty of married chicks looking to step out without their husbands knowing.

-CD

[Latinopan]

(10-01-2016 05:28 AM)Ozy Wrote:  

I 100% believe that most cuckold fetishists are closeted gay guys. Believe me, LOTS of gay guys end up marrying women. Just go on any porn website and search for cuckold. It is 100% focused on the guy, especially his dick and ass. There is plenty of straight porn marketed towards gay guys with the camera focusing on the guy.

Lots of gay guys are drama queens and get off on doing anything nasty that gets a rise out of people. They also get off on degrading women in a weird way. You'd be surprised how much casual distaste for women they have.

Was reading this the other day:

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It was during their rendezvous that Claire suggested he consider becoming an escort while focusing on his journalism career because 'straight' and 'well-endowed' men aren't very common in the industry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...z4LtwvfZS9

This is why you have lots of wealthy older women discovering the toy boy they have is fucking some men.

Another way I learned on forums was threesomes 2 or more men plus one woman, not straight man feel comfortable fucking a women and having other men in his field of view, stuff like double penetration is a total giveaway, not straight man wants his dick that close or worst, touching anther man's dick.

[XPQ22]

(10-01-2016 11:51 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

He explained to me that everything was working against my favor and imagine if the husband orgasms, comes back to reality to see some black guy banging out his wife and mother of his kids. Not a fantasy any more. I opted out and like someone said above, it's plenty of married chicks looking to step out without their husbands knowing.

-CD

Yeah I think you made the right call on that one. They think it's a really hot idea until they nut 45 seconds in, and then it's like "Welp"

Guys who aren't players probably get some of the worst post-nut depressions, who knows what they're capable of in that state.

(10-02-2016 12:18 AM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Was reading this the other day:

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It was during their rendezvous that Claire suggested he consider becoming an escort while focusing on his journalism career because 'straight' and 'well-endowed' men aren't very common in the industry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...z4LtwvfZS9

Banging well-post-wall 40 and 50-somethings with mental health issues for 30k a year hardly seems worth the effort and risk, you could make almost as much at nearly any other part-time job. Depends on how many hours he has to invest in it a week, though, if he's only putting in 5-10 hours a week on average to earn that income it could be a "maybe." Overwhelming majority of these broads are going to be nothing to look at, keep in mind.

[Latinopan]

(10-02-2016 10:08 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 11:51 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

He explained to me that everything was working against my favor and imagine if the husband orgasms, comes back to reality to see some black guy banging out his wife and mother of his kids. Not a fantasy any more. I opted out and like someone said above, it's plenty of married chicks looking to step out without their husbands knowing.

-CD

(10-02-2016 12:18 AM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Was reading this the other day:

Quote:

It was during their rendezvous that Claire suggested he consider becoming an escort while focusing on his journalism career because 'straight' and 'well-endowed' men aren't very common in the industry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...z4LtwvfZS9

Banging well-post-wall 40 and 50-somethings with mental health issues for 30k a year hardly seems worth the effort and risk, you could make almost as much at nearly any other part-time job. Depends on how many hours he has to invest in it a week, though, if he's only putting in 5-10 hours a week on average to earn that income it could be a "maybe." Overwhelming majority of these broads are going to be nothing to look at, keep in mind.

Read the article:

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Luke explained that he started his side-business eight years ago, and while he has found success as an escort,

Is a side income, just like many women with normal jobs do some escort on the side, 30K a year plus his normal income.

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'For the rest of the weekend, we strolled the city, but that was it,' he recalled. 'She wasn't looking for sex, actually. It sounds nuts, I know. I felt like I was supposed to have sex with her: Why else was I there?'


And while he was confused at first, Luke said that over the course of his career as an escort, he realized that Veronica's desire for companionship wasn't that uncommon.

Women are different to men, a man get to fuck and he is happy done, women need companionship in a way that is a necessity like a man needs a blowjob.

I once personally met male escort at the gym, he told me women just need company, one woman just cooked for him, that was it.

Want to make good money as a male escort? pay attention her and give her company. That is it.

The vast majority of women who hire male escorts are women married to men who spend all the time working high paying jobs.

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Luke said Veronica was 'blonde, blue-eyed, in her early 50s, and looked just like her photos'. Although Veronica was married, she and her husband had an arrangement that allowed them to explore other options.

Where do you think the stereotype of lonely older married woman in a mansion fucked by a young man comes from?


Her husband is clearly fucking younger women, at early 50s he really does not care that much who his wife fuck.

[Gmac]

That twitter game...

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[XPQ22]

(10-02-2016 01:53 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Is a side income, just like many women with normal jobs do some escort on the side, 30K a year plus his normal income.

Right, I'm just curious as to what the time investment is to earn it. If it's just an extra $2500 in the bank each month for a couple days worth of work, yeah that's a good hustle.

If he has to be spending legitimately ~20 hours a week advertising, scheduling, and doing meets (because women are going to want a lot more time and "boyfriend experience" for their money than the average male john who feels a full hour is extravagant), than it seems more meh. You could likely earn nearly as much hustling for Uber and not have to put up with the unpleasantness of banging grandmas and the ever-present STD risk, unless he considers the ego boost of being a paid dick a significant "value-added" feature.

My guess is that if you had statistics and looked at the numbers carefully, one would find that for all but the highest-end escorts, prostitution simply isn't a particularly lucrative or rational career choice. It may give these girls "working through college" a feeling like they're saving time and somehow more in control of their own destiny, but if you actually got a hold of their deposit slips you might find that just taking that part-time closer barista position at Starbucks for 14/hr plus tuition reimbursement would've put them ahead of the curve, not even factoring in the intrinsic risk involved. "Sugar daddy" situations like SA are another story.

And I'd bet dollars to donuts he's switch-hit at one time or another.

(10-02-2016 01:59 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

That twitter game...

<snip>

Four texts in and she's already talking about the local dining experience. Ah, women.

[scorpion]

(10-01-2016 04:49 AM)Malo Wrote:  

These type of fantasies like cuckold start at a very young age, they have nothing to do with porn.

There are hundreds of porn categories, why do people find themselves attracted to a certain type and not another?

If you watch a ton of gay porn, you think you'll start liking men? No.

Porn is similar to drugs and alcohol. Usage exists along a continuum, and people have natural predispositions that make them more or less susceptible to shifting along that continuum. Just like some people have no problem with having a couple of drinks or smoking a little weed, some people can watch "normal" porn and be content with it forever. But others are predisposed to chase the high and the thrill and end up out of control. This is how people become junkies and alcoholics. It's also how they become porn addicts with fucked up fetishes they didn't previously have.

So yes, porn can induce weird fetishes and fantasies. Maybe there was some underlying, pre-existing psychology latent within the individual that made it appeal to them more than someone else. But the porn is what activated it. There's no question that our utterly porn-saturated media/internet landscape is warping peoples' sexuality these days. Up until very recently there was very little cultural exposure (and almost zero media exposure) to the sort of degenerate pornographic material that is commonplace today. Most people would go their entire lives without seeing images of other people having sex. Nowadays you don't even have to go five minutes without seeing it if you don't want to.

We are currently in the middle of a worldwide pornography epidemic. It's an extremely serious threat to the public health, and the effects are only just beginning to be felt and understood. And it will get worse before it gets better. I cannot advise men enough to get as far away as they can from pornography. It is literally life-ruining, soul-destroying stuff. There is nothing in the world today so dangerously misunderstood as pornography. The discrepancy between the actual danger it poses and how casually it is regarded is unlike anything else. It's like treating a wild tiger the same way you'd treat a house cat. People view it as harmless fun but it's incredibly destructive on both the individual and societal level.

[XPQ22]

^ For my part once I started banging a couple of decently attractive, but not porn star-looking by any means young women in the real world regularly, my desire to watch porn dwindled away to basically nothing.

Looking at closeups of other dude's dicks in vaginas I'm not hitting feels pretty gay.

[SlickyBoy]

(07-17-2016 06:20 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

This is caused by excessive consumption of pornography, which desensitizes the viewer to increasingly perverse content and warps the viewer's sexuality over time. It is completely and utterly unnatural for a man to watch dozens or hundreds of different people having sex. In times past that was called being a voyeur or a peeping tom, and would have gotten you killed or sent to prison. When you become desensitized to graphic sexual content you are completely fucking your mind up. Full stop.

Pornography is one of the most dangerous things in the world today for men. One of the easiest pitfalls for men to stumble into, with some of the most devastating personal consequences. Avoid at all costs.

I think there's a similar argument to be made for "mommy porn" a la, 50 Shades of Grey novels, which women treat virtually the same way as men treat porn.

The big difference with these "books" is they can leave it on the kitchen table, read it on the subway, etc. and carry on with not a smidgeon of societal scrutiny. Women get off from the written word the same as a guy does from something visual. But the effect on the female psyche is probably just as damaging as is the porn overdose to the new modern male. If there is a mental equivalent to erectile dysfunction, I surmise that most women addicted to this trash suffer from it immensely - probably contributing to the exorbitantly high divorce rates nowadays.

[Latinopan]

(10-02-2016 02:35 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(10-02-2016 01:53 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Is a side income, just like many women with normal jobs do some escort on the side, 30K a year plus his normal income.

Right, I'm just curious as to what the time investment is to earn it. If it's just an extra $2500 in the bank each month for a couple days worth of work, yeah that's a good hustle.

If he has to be spending legitimately ~20 hours a week advertising, scheduling, and doing meets (because women are going to want a lot more time and "boyfriend experience" for their money than the average male john who feels a full hour is extravagant), than it seems more meh. You could likely earn nearly as much hustling for Uber and not have to put up with the unpleasantness of banging grandmas and the ever-present STD risk, unless he considers the ego boost of being a paid dick a significant "value-added" feature.

In this type of jobs with "agencies" they have "status" they let the clients know when they are available, and what parts of the country or world they are available, when they are "not available" in their status it means they are doing the main job.

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My guess is that if you had statistics and looked at the numbers carefully, one would find that for all but the highest-end escorts, prostitution simply isn't a particularly lucrative or rational career choice. It may give these girls "working through college" a feeling like they're saving time and somehow more in control of their own destiny, but if you actually got a hold of their deposit slips you might find that just taking that part-time closer barista position at Starbucks for 14/hr plus tuition reimbursement would've put them ahead of the curve, not even factoring in the intrinsic risk involved. "Sugar daddy" situations like SA are another story.

Women have not concept of saving money like men, look how much money and expensive stuff women on Instagram get but still end up broke.

This guy seems smart enough to know ho to handle money.

[XPQ22]

(10-02-2016 05:22 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Women have not concept of saving money like men, look how much money and expensive stuff women on Instagram get but still end up broke.

This guy seems smart enough to know ho to handle money.

Yep. I suppose if the girls were geniuses with numbers they'd be writing high-frequency trading software part-time, not turning tricks.

[Latinopan]

(10-01-2016 11:51 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

I was once offered cash to bang a hot blond chick out ~mid 30s infront of her husband around 1:00 A.M.. They wanted me to drive to their house (really nice part of town). I almost did it until I called my good buddy and he told me not to do it. He explained to me that everything was working against my favor and imagine if the husband orgasms, comes back to reality to see some black guy banging out his wife and mother of his kids. Not a fantasy any more. I opted out and like someone said above, it's plenty of married chicks looking to step out without their husbands knowing.

-CD

It seems the cuckold stuff is more frequent in middle upper class.

[MongolianAbroad]

I thought the NYPost was more on the conservative end. They're publishing this, though:

https://nypost.com/2018/06/01/some-men-l...eir-wives/

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You may be surprised to know that “cuckold porn” was the second most searched porn term after “youth,” according to the authors of the book “A Billion Wicked Thoughts: What the Internet Tells Us About Sexual Relationships.” While wife sharing may be a commonly held fantasy, in reality, it’s a sexual scenario that is a step too far for most men.

Not for so-called Stags, though. These guys get their rocks off watching their wife or girlfriend having sex with other dudes. The Stag either joins in or watches as a voyeur. The Vixen, or, as they are known in some circles, Hotwife, has sex with the encouragement of her husband or boyfriend with the Bull (that’s the guy who is servicing her).

Another scenario is that the Vixen has sex with a Bull outside of the couple’s shared abode, then comes home and recounts all the details in a blow-by-blow description to turn the Stag on.

So, are we talking cuckolds?

No. However you could be mistaken for thinking that as the definition of a cuckold is a man who enjoys the act of his wife being pleasured by another male. You may have heard the term “cuck” being bandied about of late. In political circles, it’s a barb that the alt-right throw at lefty men as in, “You snowflake cuck,” before the left cluck back and call them “Cuckservatives.”

These insults allude to the fact that in some cuckhold scenarios there’s an element of ritualized humiliation, submissiveness, jealousy or denial that comes into play. The Bull, the wife or both dominate the encounter and the cuckold gets his sexual thrill from the masochistic shame and humiliation.

Their little secret

Meet Stag & Vixen couple Susie*, 36, and Shane*, 38, who go under the Twitter handle @Ourlittlesecret. So-called because apart from indulging in extra-circular bedroom activities, they’re otherwise a long-term, straight, married couple with kids and regular jobs, whose friends have no idea what they get up to. Although their 72K Twitter followers do.

For Susie and Shane, the term Stag & Vixen was a better fit than cuckold. “It’s a description that suites us perfectly as there is no humiliation or denial involved,” explains Shane. “I prefer to be a voyeur, but occasionally, I’ll join in. Watching my wife with another man is a big turn-on for me. It’s like foreplay. As much as I love watching, I can’t wait for the Bull to leave so I can ravish Susie myself.”

In Stag & Vixen circles, this is known as “reclaiming” and the focus of the couple returning back to each.

It was Shane’s long-held fantasy for Susie to have sex with another man. “We’d often roleplay it in a fantasy situation,” explains Susie. “However, I was too insecure about my body to entertain the thought of having sex with anyone else. Then we started the Twitter account and started posting naked pictures (Susie never shows her face, so there’s an anonymity). I enjoyed the exhibitionism and the compliments. I got talking to a guy who lived in our city and he asked me out for coffee. Shane was all for it.”

After the date, the Bull came home with Susie and they had sex. “Sex with another man was appealing because Shane and I have been together since I was 18” she says. “I felt like a teenager who was dating again.”

However, Susie found being watched by Shane awkward at first. “Initially, I found it hard to have sex in front of Shane,” she says. “He knows my comfort levels, so now he leaves us to it, until I get into it. Once I’m warmed up, then he’ll come into the room and I feel OK.”

“Once I walked in on them and she was on top; it’s your bed, your wife and another man. It’s crazy, but it’s a big turn-on,” says Shane. “However, it’s not like in the movies, with the guy directing the scene, I just sit there quietly.”

“Every now and then, I’ll look over, smile and giggle Shane’s way,” adds Susie. “Or Shane will come over and give me long, hot, horny kisses.”

The rules

Interestingly, many Stags have no interest in sexual encounters with other women. “I’ve got a hall pass to sleep with other women but that wasn’t the original intention. It was always about Susie’s pleasure and the pleasure I get from her experiencing it.”

However, the couple say there are rules in place. “The rules are Shane has to know about everything and we can’t have any secrets,” says Susie. “If I happen to go out by myself, he has to hear all the details.”

Shane says there definitely was a learning curve when the couple first started living the Stag & Vixen lifestyle. “Susie would get lost in the moment on dates and forget to keep in touch,” said Shane. “Once she had sex in the car before she got home, which was a sore subject as I wanted to be there when she was having sex.”

The obvious question that had be asked is whether Susie ever felt coerced in any way. “No, I wouldn’t have done it if I didn’t want to,” she asserts. “I like being able to experience pleasure with other men. However, with sex anyone other than Shane is purely sexual. Our relationship is my prime focus.”

The couple say they have more sex together now. “Susie tends to be more horny before, during and then after, if she has a date. It has brought us closer together more,” says Shane.

*Names have been changed to protect anonymity

This is way out there.

[The Stronger Sex]

How nice of you all to request the husband's permission. Who said chivalry is dead?

[Not a Second Hander]

I don't think the cuckold fetish has anything to do with closeted homosexuality or anything. I truly believe it's something that men who have sold their souls for money and worldly success engage in. The ultimate root is intense self hate of the husband/boyfriend. Sure there might be some betas being dragged into this shot through their slutty wives especially now that it had become mainstream.

My grandfather who is in his 80s told me he knew of a very rich feudal in the 1940s Ethiopia who had his slaves fuck his wife. Now the guy was a total scumbag who used to hang farmers for being behind grain payments and a bootlicker to people above his status in life. He went from ambitious young guy to a depraved middle aged man whose actions and decisions in life ate him alive.

As my grandfather put it, having his wife banged out by slaves was his way of dragging his wife down to his level. Her fucking a slave would make her as depraved as he was wouldn't it? Now she's on his level and he can rest knowing that fact.

Makes sense to me considering that most cuckold fetishes feature black men as bulls. To a lot of white men who hate themselves, having a normal and fit clean cut white guy bang out their wives wouldn't achieve that purpose. Nor would an Asian guy or even clean cut and well spoken black man for the matter.

The wife or girlfriend has to be spoiled and degraded secually like the husband is spiritually. And to a lot of white men, only a thuggish black man will achieve that purpose.

The way we got into this conversation with my grandfather was when I asked him for advice on whether or not I should engage in some legal but immoral business opportunity that came up some years ago. He answered with if you wanna end up like that feudal guy. Hubris and greed has always been the downfall of man and not all the gold in the world is worth a clean soul.

Ultimately it is a sign of a dying society where men sell their soul for worldly pleasure and end up being a cuckold in order to cope.

[The Stronger Sex]

For what I can tell a lot of cuckolds have sexual shortcomings (small dick, erection problems) and they turn their insecurities (my wife will cheat on me with a real man) into a fetish. A lot also seem to be turned on by the idea of sexually submitting to the bull (sucking his cock, getting fucked by him...) so there seems to be a homosexual subtext in many cases. Being the bull's bitch is the next step in emasculation after having him do the job you can't do. They're pathetic betas who decide to let go of any pretension of manliness and live life like the beta bitches they are.

[Tytalus]

Here's what Athol Kay says in the Married Man's Sex life:

https://www.amazon.com/Married-Man-Life-...460981731/

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Playing with Non-Monogamy

I’m going to lump in cuckolding, swinging and polyamory as essentially all the same thing. I’m sure devotees of all three varieties of non-monogamy would feel uncomfortable with that, but all three boil down to legitimizing women having sex with multiple men with their primary partner’s consent. In none of the three groups is there any sense that a woman could be forced into a sex act that she didn’t want and the men in those groups only get to have sex by the choice of the women. So while I don’t have a particular moral concern about people engaging in consensual sex, there are obvious practical dangers to your marriage when a man more attractive than you has sex with your wife.

If you’re a 7 and you go to a swing party and your wife has sex with a 9, there’s a good chance that she’ll get a huge rush and start to develop an attachment to the other man. After all, this is exactly what her Body Agenda would want to happen. Books and websites on swinging and polyamory discuss managing jealousy in huge depth. Jealousy is a powerful emotion, and it takes a fair degree of social reprogramming to have a jealous lover not act on that emotion. The person most likely to experience feeling threatened and therefore jealous, is the lower Sex Rank half of the couple. The practical purpose of this social reprogramming is to make the lower Sex Rank half of a couple become passive in the face of risk to the relationship. So if the male 7 watching his wife have sex with a male 9 gets jealous and upset, he’s framed as the one with the problem. He has to struggle to behave himself and she gets pumped by a 9, so she’s is a clear winner. In cuckolding there are no illusions about this, as the erotic humiliation of watching a higher Sex Rank man take his wife is channeled as the turn-on for the husband.

Husbands do tend to float the idea of non-monogamy first in a marriage and it may take quite some time to convince the wife to try it. But if the interest and activity persists, eventually the driving force becomes the wife’s. If a wife is married to a 6 or a 7 and she’s allowed to have sex with an 8, 9 or 10 in sanctioned hook-ups, she will almost never stop that contact. This is exactly what her Body Agenda drives her to do. Then if you’re the 6 or 7 husband, should one of those 8, 9 or 10s take a bit more of a shine to your wife… she’ll very likely leave you for him. Well… it would be rational for her to do that wouldn’t it? It is a weakness display of the highest order to allow another man to have sex with your wife, and a turn off for almost all women. In fact most wives don’t agree to start these activities until their husband’s begging for them reduces her attraction to him.

Don’t confuse the wife’s sexual excitement for her husband after having sex with another man as an increased attraction to her husband; it’s simply carrying over from the rush she felt with the other man and her desire to have sperm competing inside her. Likewise, when you allow another man to have sex with your wife, you’re making a weakness display to the other man as well. He will gain enormous confidence in his ability to best you and you are actively encouraging him to move against your interest in your wife. Your best friend may have desired your wife for many years, but never thought he could steal her from you. Once you allow him to sleep with her, he knows he could probably take her from you. In the end, the purpose of non-monogamy groups is to try and create a small sub-group where the women have sexual access to the best men and are sexually unbothered by the rest of them. Of course, if you’re a super hot guy, then there is no problem with chumps handing over their wives to you is there?