[The King]

3rd (and last) phenibut report

Got around to ordering some phenibut faa. Took maybe between 3-5 grams of the stuff very early (5 pm) with redosage later on. I felt "something" before leaving my house but still felt normal approach anxiety so I had a few drinks

My conclusion is that my gaba b receptors are highly resistant to psychoactive substances and that to get any effect I'd need to take dangerous amounts.

I have no doubt that phenibut is a pua wonder drug, but unfortunately it's not mine

[crudeloyalist]

@The King. Are you taking phenny on an empty stomach with an energy drink? This is vitally important. You want to avoid eating about 1.5 hours before and after taking it. This is harder to do in the middle of the day. Try taking it first thing in the morning with a coffee and then do some light exercise.

I almost gave up on it when I first took it. The hardest thing is getting the dosage right and taking it at the right time. 4 to 5 grams is a decent amount but you want to limit that to once or twice a week. Give your gaba receptors a rest for a week and try again doing what I suggested and report back.

[The King]

Didn't think I'd be trying phenibut again but I took your advice on board and had phenibut on an empty stomach with some coffee. I don't think it worked but I noticed something in the morning yesterday as well as this morning; I'm super chatty. I talk ALOT already but this is on a whole other level. Maybe the phenibut is kicking in while I'm asleep?

Anyway I'm gonna put it on the shelf. I have a pua friend who I think will really appreciate it so I'll pass it on to him. I'm gonna stick to the alcohol for now while searching for another substance.

[sonoran_]

I think the 2nd time I took phenibut I took it with the sole purpose to combine it with alcohol. I know that youre not supposed to do this.
I didnt feel much the 1st time I took it ( 1g) so I thought lets combine a little alcohol and reduce the phenibut dose.

I started off drinking slowly....1 drin....., didnt feel anything... 2 drinks... still nothing.

I spaced each drink apart because it might be that the combination might hit me all of a sudden.

Total I think I had 5 drinks that night and the effects were all from the alcohol.

[whiteknightrises]

This post is 100% fictional and I don't know what Phenibut is, let alone have taken it

The King:

It seems like experiences vary but yes that sounds about right - the chatty part.

I've seen Phenibut described as MDMA lite, which is kind of true. Like I don't get fucked up perse, but I do notice lower anxiety, more willingness to talk to people, and music sounds better

I wouldn't expect anything crazy - for that you would want to go with molly, cocaine, etc but obviously those are a bit more incompatible with day-to-day functionality whereas on Phenibut, you are still coherent

[PapayaTapper]

(04-28-2015 06:49 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(04-28-2015 12:47 PM)Sonoma Wrote:  

Can you mix Phenibut with cocaine?

I thought yayo removes all approach anxiety???

It did...at least back in the day

Jou can actually even fock on da really pure chit mang

[Moma]

(04-23-2017 04:14 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

It did...at least back in the day

Jou can actually even fock on da really pure chit mang

Modern batch probably been stepped on waaay too much

[crudeloyalist]

The last few times I’ve taken phenny have been less effective. Barely felt anything. I was trying to figure out why and I suspect that it has to do with my recent zinc megadosing. I remember reading somewhere that zinc increases alcohol tolerance and I believe it’s doing the same for phenibut. So for those of you who are struggling to make phenny work, consider the other supplements you’re taking.

[Onlycupid]

Phenibut is my shit. I've taken it on and off for the past 4 years and have only become a better person. I would agree that it's a cheat drug to approach women and achieve many other things, but it allows you to be coherent, therefore allowing you to remember what you did right and wrong. It does has very negative side effects, so the only advice I have is to know yourself. It's like coffee, some need it now and then, some people don't. I have tapered off and have felt totally fine. I still fuck with it, but don't abuse it.

[Bycicleguy]

This seems amazing but I have read that tolerance develops pretty fast, I think it could be a good replacement for alcohol in casual nights out.

[kevin4usc]

So most of the guides say to take it in the morning, but what if you're not going out until that night. Wouldn't you want to wait until late afternoon/early evening timeframe? What are your thoughts/experiences with this?

Thanks guys!!

[whiteknightrises]

^ just time it right so that your stomach is as empty as possible (maybe 3-4 hours after your last meal depending on your metabolism) and so that it kicks in at a good time (maybe will feel it ~3-4 hours in)

And wait like an hour after taking it before eating anything

Example: going out - take at 8:30 (last meal 5:30 or 6), eat something ~9:30 (if hungry), maybe will feel it around 12-12:30

But YMMV. It seems highly variable from person to person

[Arado]

Anyone have any updated Amazon links to brands that they trust? Couldn't find any searching on my own.

[Capitán Peligroso]

This is the best supplier I've found. Go with the HCI, not the FAA.

[RustyShackleford]

To those that are complaining that phenibut doesn't hit you, it's almost exclusively because your stomach is full. Phenibut can be described as MDMA lite without your head getting fucked up. I use it as a mood elevator or as a hangover cure.

You need to have fasted for phenibut to take effect, especially if you are a reasonably sized man. I'm 6' 180lbs and even if I eat a couple of eggs in the morning and I take it in the evening it dulls the effects significantly. It's best to be fasted and take it with your morning coffee or fast until the afternoon and take it then.

http://www.gll-getalife.com/get-ripped/d...but-review

This is all the knowledge you need on the subject. For me personally I have had success using Liftmode's or TheNootropicsyndicate HCL's only.

I have never had any FAA form hit me, even when I take double the recommended dosages.

You don't need to take more than 1-1.5g if you are taking it with an empty stomach. I would suggest caffeine with it, but not energy drinks. For myself, sugar seems to dull the intensity significantly. I take it with a black coffee on a completely empty stomach and usually start to feel the effects within 30-60 minutes. Usually I start with 0.5 or 1g and take another 0.5g after the first hour. Then I decide to eat or not.

You can take it with alcohol, but be damn sure you DO NOT drive on it. It fucks up your motor control badly. If I wanted to get drunk I'd have to take 10-15 drinks on a normal night, but with a good dose of phenibut I get pretty fucked up after 6-8. This allows my body to detox the alcohol and avoid hangovers.

I'll repeat again, please do not drive on it. I've driven under the influence of 100 different things and cocktails, stoned, drunk, hallucinating, you name it. The only time I bumped a curb was mixing phenibut + liquor. Never again.

[duedue]

I'm usually uptight and unsociable so will phenibut be helpful to me? Also are there similar substances with fewer side effects (say something that is not addictive)? When I search phenibut in Amazon,the first hit is something called PEA.

[S3K2]

Phenibut helped in my earlier days of game but after years of playing the game, I feel it doesn't effect me like it once did. Definitly not tolerance bacuse been years since i took it since my date last fri/sat. I have this mind frame the the chick is my "best friend/lover" and thats how phenibut used to make me feel. Ita like im always on phenibut w/o the actual chemical floating around in my blood stream.

[spydersuit]

Do not take drugs to improve your game. Improve your game with practice.

Take drugs to get weird with your friends or to have a different experience.

This particular substance may reduce your anxiety. If you have frequent anxiety (even when not approaching), then go to the a licensed psychologist and exercise more frequently.

Regular substance use will only hurt your progress in life and game in the long run.

Don't take supplements. They are not regulated by the FDA. Most supplements are determined to be crap after being tested by independent scientists.

Lastly, save your money and approach more often. If you really have bad approach anxiety, then get a job in sales and it will decrease over time.

(FWIW: I am a doctor/scientist and have PTSD and I am speaking from my own BS authority and experience. Plato would not be impressed).

[Skank_Hunt]

The drug Baclofen has the same mechanism of action as Phenibut, but instead of taking spoonfuls you can just take a pill or too. You have to have a script but it's not a controlled drug. Helps with anxiety and general stress. Official use is anti-spasmodic but it is prescribed off label sometimes for anxiety. Mixed with benzodiazepines you hit both GABA-A and B receptors for a decent reduction in anxiety. I don't advise taking drugs though in order to game. Especially benzos because they are addictive as hell. Even Phenibut will have withdrawals if you use it often. Careful with this kind of stuff.

[duedue]

Anybody tried phenylthylamine here?

[TheRoyalFlush]

I really wanted Phenibut to work for me, but the effects were very subtle. Even when I took a massive amount, I noticed I talked more, but I didn't feel any more motivated too -- whereas on MDMA I can't talk up the whole club and have a deep yearning to communicate and connect. When I did take a large amount, the hangover the next day was probably the worst hang over of my entire life, never again. Also, this stuff makes me super angry and boderline violent. I enjoy Kratom much more than this substance.

[Menzilci]

(10-12-2017 12:44 PM)TheRoyalFlush Wrote:  

I really wanted Phenibut to work for me, but the effects were very subtle. Even when I took a massive amount, I noticed I talked more, but I didn't feel any more motivated too -- whereas on MDMA I can't talk up the whole club and have a deep yearning to communicate and connect. When I did take a large amount, the hangover the next day was probably the worst hang over of my entire life, never again. Also, this stuff makes me super angry and boderline violent. I enjoy Kratom much more than this substance.

Of course the effect is subtle, if it wasn't subtle then it would be a prohibited substance or controlled substance.


Nothing will come close to mimicking the effects of MDMA, not even cocaine. MDMA is on a very different level, too bad you cant use it everyday.

Personally I combine phenibut with ritalin.
I take ritalin for my ADD, but even at therepautical doses ritalin gives me slight euphoria, and euphoria is increased when you combine it with phenibut. It makes approaching girls much easier for me.

[the Thing]

Turkish IRT autistic troll brought me here.. but since I'm already here I should chime in.

At this point I can safely say I'm well experienced in getting high. Over the course of my life, I went out fucked up on all kinds (and many combinations) of recreational drugs. From cocaine to ice to H to GHB to some research chemical that the DEA hasn't even heard of. Yet most of my one night stand pulls happened... wait for it... sober. Not even alcohol 2-3 drinks tops.

Drugs work for fun (recreationally) or to fix an underlying condition if you have one (medically) but calm, cool and collected with a hint of killer instinct ultimately wins this race.

Though here are the honorable mentions:

Stims

MDMA: I thought I ruined this one for myself with the serotonin syndrome and months of unexplainable depression that ensued after banging 2 grams of rocks one night, but a good part of my psyche (and the molly magic) has been restored after almost a year of staying clean. Anyway: Party drug. Fun in raves and house parties but at a bar or club, if you're on it and the girl you're talking to isn't, you'll just come off as weird. But it's my standard carry if I'm going to a plate's house and her roommate's been secretly eyeing me up. Many fun nights have ensued..
When I refer to MDMA I mean the brown crystal molly as the ecstasy pills often have amphetamine mixed in to make it more of an upper. Pure molly is bliss, less aimlessly jumping around, great feelings yet you can still dance on it if you wanted to. If you get raw crystals get a jeweler's scale and measure, don't eyeball.

Cocaine: If you're in this thread you most likely know -or have a good idea of- how cocaine feels, and that it's not a pickup drug per se. But, it's actually a great pickup drug, as in its very existence is; you can go run gutter game at closing time, and especially in my city, a LOT of girls will follow you back to your house for the sole reason that you have blow on you.
I don't say it out loud in order not to sound creepy. My game plan is roughly:
* Approach her, start talking. Once I spot the "coke fiend" look in her eyes... (we all know that look guys)
* Isolate, start walking away from crowds. Keep building rapport.
* "Hey <girl name> can you cover me for just a second?" Pull out baggie and bump tool. Do a bump.
* The response is usually "oh coke? I want one too!" Give her one bump.
* Keep walking towards seemingly nondescript direction which actually gets us closer to my house.
* Rapport building while walking, though it's more "don't fuck it up game" than rapport building at this point
* "Hey I got a super nice place just around the corner, come check it out?"
* The answer is obvious since you both knew it the moment that baggie made its first appearance. Mission accomplished.
Might drop into a bar on the way if she seems reluctant but this is more or less it. Western Women '2018 Provider Game.
Often the girl will bring it up herself, these girls are the experienced variety of coke fiend whores; like a triple evolved Pokemon. Of course that doesn't mean they won't be down to fuck. Couple drinks and a few T H I C C lines crush all kinds of LMR.
Also I fucking love cocaine.

Adderall: More of a work/study drug, although entirely possible to get fucked up on. My favorite choice for getting work done. Not my favorite choice for partying.

Methamphetamine: Personally I prefer good old ice to adderall for partying (and to some extent working) Basically Adderall on steroids, longer lasting and way more euphoria. If you're gonna hit your city's nightlife district and have no idea how to make it to 6am with such low energy and inner game levels, well I got news for you. However to do this, a jeweler's scale and measuring it to the milligram level and taking orally is absolutely necessary, it's stronger than you think. If you don't measure and instead eyeball it, you may suddenly find yourself having been masturbating under a bridge for 10 hours; or attacking a police horse with a shovel. Meth is something you simply don't fuck with. Very fun otherwise.

Crack: I never got the appeal. Puff clouds, feel like a king, 15 minutes, gone. Not useful as a pickup drug either (unless you're picking up hobo crack whores) Refer to above paragraph.

Opiates

As you probably already have figured out, I'm a stimulant person. Opiates were never really my thing.

H: I tried many times but could never really understand heroin. I can't walk, I can barely move, I can't think straight, I can't speak and when I can it's mostly gibberish, and I'm supposed to enjoy this how? The euphoria could be nice if you're with someone (even then I pick molly) but not a pickup drug. I like it when I'm going to the dentist for a major operation so I wouldn't feel anything. Oh and I can't sleep on it either. End of story.

Percocet: VERY weak painkiller, in standard tablets 5 mg Oxycodone and 325 mg Acetaminophen (APAP). Maybe it could be fun if I didn't fuck my opiate receptors up over the years but I can take 10 of these and still safely drive. Any more and I overdose from APAP. Yet I gave a forum member friend one tablet one night and it knocked him clean out. I still keep some at home because girls dig it (I guess mainly because of the song "molly percocets" or whatever, but I concur).
One night I brought home an ex stripper by running Provider Game 2018 Edition, then we started off with rum and cokes and FAT lines of blow, then a few percs. Afterwards I got absolutely and utterly WRECKED on meth + some more perks + 20mg Cialis + 50mg Viagra + 0.5mg Cabergoline.. and the KY jelly runs out 4 hours in and she starts popping the percs like candy so she wouldn't "feel any pain and just keep going"? Now that's my kind of girl.
Yeah fuck drug yes. Pickup drug no.

OxyContin: Oxy is basically Oxycodone (active ingredient in perks as well) 10mg 20mg 30mg 40mg all the way to 80. No APAP since that shit's basically tylenol anyway. Now the 80 mg, will get you fucked up, back and then beyond. Perfect if you're getting a sleeve tattoo.

Benzos / GABAergics

Very honorable mention as they actually have medical use cases in social anxiety.

Xanax: The king of no fucks given. You're going for the no-fuck-giving pussy-slaying heart-breaking fuckboy vibe but lack the personality? Big Pharma's got something for you. Enter 2 mg bars of these bad boys (the ones with 3 scores so you can break them in 4 pieces 0.5mg each) and you got the whole package. Personally Xanax has been a love-hate relationship for me as in there's no limit to all the crazy out of the world shit you can do on these, but the hate is because there really IS no limit. Once at a company party ate half a bar, touchy flirty with a 19 year old hot intern, normally I'd think "save face" "build rapport" "isolate" "don't shit where you eat" but nope, held her hand, dragged her to the restroom and fucked her brains out, all is well. Another time, ate a whole bar and 2 shots of vodka later I black out, woke up hours later in a jail cell being charged with 2 counts misdemeanor assault with no recollection as to what the fuck had happened.
Personally I've done so many stupid and embarrassing shit while fucked up on xannies that I decided to remove them from my life for good, or for bad. If you indulge on xannies DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL! As much as 1 beer will unlock all your restraints and anything above that is blackout territory.

Valium: The queen of no fucks given. Essentially same shit but milder effect that lasts longer, way less blackout risk, more manageable. Good for social anxiety as prescribed, or being able to go to sleep after meth binges (this is more of an off-label usage..)

Ambien: This is not a benzo, they're called "non-benzodiazepine class drugs" but they act on the same receptor so might as well be a benzo. It does lower your inhibitions but not to the point that Valium and Xanax do. You may feel the urge to text somebody but chances are you're gonna regret it in the morning so don't do it. I like it for sleep and RVF shitposting. Between the time I take my medication and the time I feel sleepy, I come here, write datasheets and save them in my drafts folder. (ps. This post is written sober) I'm actually in the process of writing a very epic "Computer Science career datasheet" that I'm already 6 10mg tablets in, I think I'll need another 40mg to finish up but will be a very detailed datasheet. Stay tuned.

GHB: Again not a benzo. (I'll just add GABAergics to the title) VERY honorable mention to the pickup drug title. Tried once, gave me a relaxed and sociable vibe, but it is the date rape drug so don't get caught at a bar with a bottle of this in your pocket. Also don't drink on it. You'll pass out and people will call EMT on you and you'll magically wake up 4 hours later super refreshed and feeling GREAT (cause of the dopamine activity) and everybody will be like what the fuck.

Phenibut: I used to take 500mg before I went out clubbing to loosen up but after a while I realized I didnt really need it plus the tolerance shoots up very quickly.


TripSafe

Well that was the mainstream. In this section I'll list all the supplements I stock up in order to eliminate, or at least minimize, brain and tissue damage from putting all that vile shit into my body.

N-Acetyl-Cysteine Great for reducing oxidative stress caused by stimulants
Blueberries NAC on steroids, for your brain. Clean that shit up.
Magnesium Stops teeth grinding and involuntary muscle spasms on stims especially MDMA
L-Tyrosine Dopamine releasers such as Adderall, meth, amphetamines, MDMA basically all stims will deplete dopamine. L-Tyrosine is the building block for dopamine and will help you recover quickly.
5-HTP Essentially the same as above but for serotonin. Part of my MDMA after-care regimen.
Fish oil Essential for heart health.
Taurine If your Ritalin/Adderall script is making you jittery try this. Pair with potassium.
D3 All around great supplement. If you're not under the sun 12 hours a day shirtless, you're deficient. Try it and you'll see.
Zinc Important for your man-functions.

That was another The Thing tweak-o-matic mini datasheet. Picking girls up? Go out sober...

[monster]

^ holy shit.

LOL

[the Thing]

(08-13-2018 11:01 PM)monster Wrote:  

^ holy shit.

LOL

I like stimulants, I just wanna go fast...