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06-24-2010, 09:12 PM
Hey guys,
I do pretty well with women, and usually reach the desired result after 3 or so "dates". I'm good at keeping the conversation flowing, being playful and teasing, making her laugh, etc. However, I don't usually see that green light (i.e., "fuck me eyes") until after a few hangouts. I'm looking for some suggestions on how to speed up the process so I'm getting more first night lays. So here's my question:
When talking to a woman, what topics/discussions do you bring up specifically for the purpose of getting her in a more emotional/romantic mood that leads to her thinking about you sexually?
Thanks in advance for the tips.
-LS
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06-24-2010, 09:39 PM
How old are you and watch age are most women you date?
I have a theory, I could be wrong as it's not scientific and just my hunch, but I think ease of getting women into bed is high in their early 20s, becomes harder as they approach marriage age, and then once they get to the late 30s and 40s(The MILF/Cougar age), it becomes easier again. Any thoughts?
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06-24-2010, 09:42 PM
Quote: (06-24-2010 09:12 PM)lilseezie Wrote:
Hey guys,
I do pretty well with women, and usually reach the desired result after 3 or so "dates". I'm good at keeping the conversation flowing, being playful and teasing, making her laugh, etc. However, I don't usually see that green light (i.e., "fuck me eyes") until after a few hangouts. I'm looking for some suggestions on how to speed up the process so I'm getting more first night lays. So here's my question:
When talking to a woman, what topics/discussions do you bring up specifically for the purpose of getting her in a more emotional/romantic mood that leads to her thinking about you sexually?
Thanks in advance for the tips.
-LS
try alternating naked photos of yourself and a male model in front of her eyes without her noticing so that she thinks she imagined it. That way she will get a subtle idea that she wants to have sex. Then as you're talking throw the word "sex" in there every once in a while. she'll wonder if she heard the word sex, throw it off as her being crazy, but still have sex on her mind.
works every time.
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06-24-2010, 09:42 PM
Quote: (06-24-2010 09:12 PM)lilseezie Wrote:
Hey guys,
I do pretty well with women, and usually reach the desired result after 3 or so "dates". I'm good at keeping the conversation flowing, being playful and teasing, making her laugh, etc. However, I don't usually see that green light (i.e., "fuck me eyes") until after a few hangouts. I'm looking for some suggestions on how to speed up the process so I'm getting more first night lays. So here's my question:
When talking to a woman, what topics/discussions do you bring up specifically for the purpose of getting her in a more emotional/romantic mood that leads to her thinking about you sexually?
Thanks in advance for the tips.
-LS
try alternating naked photos of yourself and a male model in front of her eyes without her noticing so that she thinks she imagined it. That way she will get a subtle idea that she wants to have sex with you and that you're hot. Then as you're talking throw the word "sex" in there every once in a while. she'll wonder if she heard the word sex, throw it off as her being crazy, but still have sex on her mind.
works every time.
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06-24-2010, 11:44 PM
Very true about the dancing. I'm all about it, and have that part of my game down pretty well. I guess I was just wondering if there's anything really good to bring up during those dancing breaks where you go grab a drink and talk for 20 minutes or so. Here's something I just thought of:
What about, after stepping off the dance floor, complimenting her on the way she moves her body. Tell her she dances gracefully and with confidence, then tease her by saying something like "I bet you practice those moves for hours in front of your bedroom mirror don't you?" Then from there you can ask her, since she moves so confidently, what part of her body is she the most proud of? While she's thinking perhaps take some guesses of your own, but obviously mention the not-so-perverted and less frequently complimented things (e.g., "I'm betting it's your hips as you clearly know how to move them and they contribute to your sensual figure", not "I'm betting it's your tits as they're huge and delicious"). She'll likely giggle, be a little embarrassed, and either agree with you or provide her own answer. Either way, she's inevitably going to ask you the same question, which will get her thinking and talking about your body. She'll also know you appreciate the subtleties of hers, and those two things combined could put her in a sexual state of mind. From there the conversation could go many places, depending on the vibe you're getting from her.
Anyway, I could be way off with this, but I think if said in the right way it could work. I have plans to meet up with a couple of girls this weekend so I'll see if I can give it a try.
-LS
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06-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Quote: (06-25-2010 12:17 AM)Giovonny Wrote:
My buddy who is in sales for Apple computers was just telling me today. Its not what you talk about, its how you talk.
funny. i know a guy who is also in sales for Apple computers and he doesn't know at all how to stimulate my pussy.
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06-25-2010, 02:58 AM
Dancing is overrated unless you are a superstar. That really does get you a lot of pussy, but it takes years to learn (unless you are born with it). If you just dance like an average guy, that won't help you. I've known guys who signed up for salsa classes and raved about the favorable girl/boy ratio, but didn't get any.
I'd say to make her want you you have to make yourself attractive. That means looking in shape, groomed and dressed well, attractive living situation (a nice pad helps), nice ride, some cash to flash, some good life experiences to talk about... add game on top of that and you are in. Of course, you may not have the full package but the more elements of that you gather, the better.
I don't read a lot of PUA boards but from what I've seen most questions there come from some Joe Schmoe who thinks there is something magic to say that will get him laid - well, if you a loser then nothing you say will get you laid. Work on yourself. Roosh may be one of the few guys who live in basements/hostels/favellas and still get pussy - and that is perhaps because he's worked on honing his game to the T for 10+ years.
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06-25-2010, 07:03 AM
the easiest method to escalate faster.
convey her that your intention is for Sex...she will either accept you or deny you...if she accepts..great..if not,then there are plenty of women,no need to waste time on one.
(but most of the time she doesn't reject you if your game is irresistible)
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06-25-2010, 01:19 PM
I'm not the expert here, but in a nut shell it goes something like this: eye contact, "sexual framing" (leading the conversation towards a sexual nature, with innuendo, flirting, etc.), strong kino (touching lower back, holding her hand, etc.), then going for the kiss. Obviously this doesn't normally happen in the first 30 seconds and you should be "feeling her out" as far as her interest level and be doing your own little "tests" with kino, etc., but chances are if she's not interested she'll make it clear once you start "sexual framing" and kino escalation. I'd say out of the last 6 girls I met at bars and parties on the first night only 2 out of the 6 resisted my attempts to kiss them, and while it was a little awkward, I feel it was worth the chance.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe some people on here have recommended the book "Mode One" by Roger Allen Currie, which I haven't read, but listened to some interviews by him on youtube, his theory seems to mainly being based on making your intent clear from the get go, and if it doesn't work out, them move on. I don't know if it's good to seem like you're really interested in sex from the first minute of conversation, but sometime soon after you've "hooked" her. I know I've been working on "cultivating" my sexual vibe with women, a problem that I've had and I still see friends have is while they are talking and engaging women, their "sexual vibe" is kind of dead, which is not really inspiring sexual thoughts or interest in her mind. Again, I've been trying to cultivate this vibe through body language, eye contact, flirting (sexual framing), teasing, "push-pull", and kino.
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06-25-2010, 03:02 PM
I never realized until now. Reading your post OGNorCal, when I approach a woman, sex is the only thing that vibes from me. Within minutes of talking, I've always hear them say with a smirk on their faces: " you're a little player aren't you?" or " why do you look at me like that, as if you want sex" my reply "as if you don't".
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06-25-2010, 03:35 PM
Quote: (06-25-2010 03:28 PM)Willy Wonka Wrote:
I think I have a problem with this too... but girls do be all over me, then when I get them to the bedroom, I always get a lot of LMR and shit tests about being a player and shit.
Some girls have told me I come on too aggressive.
On my most recent first date, the other night ( http://wonkawilly.wordpress.com/2010/06/...-of-genie/ ) sex never came up in the conversation, but there was a lot of kino and touching throughout the date and then I successfully bounced her back to my place for some wine, only to get the same old LMR and "how many girls do you bring back here?" type of shit tests. I wasn't able to break the LMR. So, I just settled for the make-out.
I think my issue is I get girls to like me and see me as a potential boyfriend or something, rather than some guy they should/want to fuck quickly. I don't really know what I'm doing wrong. I always thought I was good at this shit, but lately it's been real trying.
I haven't had too many issues with LMR recently, but when I did, I just tended to ignore it and continue with the making out, breast sucking, and fingering, but if she's not letting you do those things, it will be hard for her to be turned on enough for sex. If she's letting you suck her tits and finger her, then chances are she'll be turned on enough, going down on her is normally the last link before you break the chains and have sex, but I have to admit the last girl I ate out had kind of funky puss, which has turned me off from going down town (normally I like eating pussy). Recently, I've also had an issue where if I'm not really that attracted to a girl, I need her to give me head before I'm ready to properly fuck her, but some of the girls recently have really been horrible at it, or I've had to be a dick and more or less "order" her to suck me off.
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06-26-2010, 12:04 PM
For me, the magic ticket has always been going downtown. If she has her dress/pants off but is hesitant to take her panties off, start kissing down her stomach then around her thighs, everywhere BUT her vagina. Take your time with this...gotta get her nice and warmed up first. Run your fingers over her body while you're doing it. Gradually start kissing closer to her vagina, then focus on her clit and pretty much start doing your thing as if her panties weren't there. When she's moaning and moving around a lot (i.e., lovin' it), pull her panties to one side and continue. It takes a very strong woman to resist that at this point! Continue with this but don't get her off...peel them panties off and let your manmeat finish the job!
If she won't even take her pants off, agree with her concern and do something else for a while. Show her you don't NEED to have sex with her, and enjoy her company regardless. When you've got her laughing and in a good mood again, go for the makeout again. Rinse and repeat until she folds. Then refer to the first paragraph above.
If you guys don't like going down on a girl, get ready to be stuck with a lot of LMR!
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06-28-2010, 03:17 PM
I've heard from a few guys that they've used a pretty bold move to try to overcome LMR, but I think it's a ballsy move that could go either way, it could get you laid or it could cause the chick to freak out and pin you as a total "creeper perv." Basically if you are on your bed, making out, sucking titties, fingering, and doing everything, but the girl won't let you bang, then you whip out your dick and start jerking it to get hard. At this point, she is either going to get really horny, grab your cock and it's on, or she'll probably freak out and that will be the end of your time with her. I know a few guys who've claimed they've done this with success, but I think you might want to be pretty confident the girl is at the boiling point and is really horny, before you try it. Anyone else pull this move with success/failure, I'b be curious to hear?