First post here.
My story.
I come from a family where the narrative was always focused on true love. My grandparents were married for more than 60 years and met in the classic "at a church dance" manner (literally). My grandfather had followed a rule passed on from his father where if you date a woman for a year and you are not sure about marriage, you don't stay with her. 2 months after he had broken up, he met my grandmother. 6 months later they were engaged. He would tell you he was sure about my grandmother, that he wanted her and that he pursued her. My impression of their courtship was, however, that he did not "game" my grandmother in any sense. He simply pursued her and made clear he wanted her.
My grandpa was a strong man. He was no beta. He was the man of the house. He excelled in his professional life and held various leadership roles in various industries.
He was good looking, about 5'9", mesomorph. My grandmother was an 8, pretty and thin. They met, were physically attracted to eachother, connected emotionally and intellectually and went on to develop a bond that lasted them more than 60 years. There was no infidelity, and lots of love and fun. They still held hands, cuddled and enjoyed eachother's company until their last days.
That's been my model of happines. A simple, boy meets girl, there is mutual physical attraction, they get along and "click", and they build a family together.
I've sought out that model in my life. I am decent looking (I am on beautifulpeople.com), prob 7 facially, low body fat and muscular, 5'10", a lawyer. I've never been focused on the simple lay. Rather my focus has been on finding someone who I wanted to build my life with, as my grandfather had. In my view, without discounting the lifestyles of those who value sexual variety, a strong loving relationship outweighs transient sexual experiences. Preferences in this realm are obviously subjective.
In my experience, this simple model of mutual physical attraction and conversational click doesn't require game. I didn't game my ex's, 2 of which were solid 8's (promotional models, bartenders). We simply met, were attracted to eachother and got along in a way that meant we wanted to be around eachother and not just get into eachother's pants.
I find myself holding out for this dynamic. In my view, even if you are able to game a girl who isn't that physically attracted to you (1-3 points above your level) and with whom you don't naturally "click", the resulting relationship will NEVER be as good as a relationship with a girl who IS physically attracted to you and with whom you click. Why not hold out for the latter?
Again, for those looking for the lay, the analysis above is not very useful, but for those holding out for a girl we actually click with and just naturally get along with, what if anything, does game offer?
My story.
I come from a family where the narrative was always focused on true love. My grandparents were married for more than 60 years and met in the classic "at a church dance" manner (literally). My grandfather had followed a rule passed on from his father where if you date a woman for a year and you are not sure about marriage, you don't stay with her. 2 months after he had broken up, he met my grandmother. 6 months later they were engaged. He would tell you he was sure about my grandmother, that he wanted her and that he pursued her. My impression of their courtship was, however, that he did not "game" my grandmother in any sense. He simply pursued her and made clear he wanted her.
My grandpa was a strong man. He was no beta. He was the man of the house. He excelled in his professional life and held various leadership roles in various industries.
He was good looking, about 5'9", mesomorph. My grandmother was an 8, pretty and thin. They met, were physically attracted to eachother, connected emotionally and intellectually and went on to develop a bond that lasted them more than 60 years. There was no infidelity, and lots of love and fun. They still held hands, cuddled and enjoyed eachother's company until their last days.
That's been my model of happines. A simple, boy meets girl, there is mutual physical attraction, they get along and "click", and they build a family together.
I've sought out that model in my life. I am decent looking (I am on beautifulpeople.com), prob 7 facially, low body fat and muscular, 5'10", a lawyer. I've never been focused on the simple lay. Rather my focus has been on finding someone who I wanted to build my life with, as my grandfather had. In my view, without discounting the lifestyles of those who value sexual variety, a strong loving relationship outweighs transient sexual experiences. Preferences in this realm are obviously subjective.
In my experience, this simple model of mutual physical attraction and conversational click doesn't require game. I didn't game my ex's, 2 of which were solid 8's (promotional models, bartenders). We simply met, were attracted to eachother and got along in a way that meant we wanted to be around eachother and not just get into eachother's pants.
I find myself holding out for this dynamic. In my view, even if you are able to game a girl who isn't that physically attracted to you (1-3 points above your level) and with whom you don't naturally "click", the resulting relationship will NEVER be as good as a relationship with a girl who IS physically attracted to you and with whom you click. Why not hold out for the latter?
Again, for those looking for the lay, the analysis above is not very useful, but for those holding out for a girl we actually click with and just naturally get along with, what if anything, does game offer?