[relo]

im confused what he meant. why doesnt roosh just tell us what he was talking about.

[Nascimento]

I think game makes a difference, but over the long term, only for a small portion of guys who actually get into it.

Most guys probably will use game to score their first true LTR. And if that ever ends, they will have been so long out of it they will pretty much have to start from scratch. For these guys, game will make a small difference.

But for the guys who commit, put the hard effort in, the sweat blood and tears at times.. For those guys it will make a difference. If they get into a relationship it will most likely be an open one, and if they do get in a committed relationship, the guys who know how to stay alpha and not deny their natural instincts will continue to keep their game up.

By natural instincts I am referring to not denying you would fuck other girls, not avoiding teasing, touching and escalating with other girls. At that point some of these guys will cheat or stay committed, either way, they will still maintain their game. For these guys, game makes a large difference and always will.

[Ovid]

(03-20-2013 04:52 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

I took that passage to be in reference to basically the bottom 20% of men. These are the guys who have serious problems preventing them from getting women, like being straight up morbidly obese, socially retarded or having severe confidence/anxiety issues. Just teaching a guy like that game isn't going to do anything for him. He has too many underlying issues that need to be corrected first. But even a guy like that can occasionally get laid if he's in a band or has identified some very specific niche for himself to operate in and generate some microfame. I think that's what Roosh was talking about.

@ relo: Roosh liked this post of Scorpion's, so I think it's safe to assume it captured what he meant in his book.

There are unfortunately a lot of guys that are just so socially whacked-out that no amount of teaching them how to approach girls is going to have much of an effect. I have a friend like that. I'm supposed to be the best man at his wedding in July, and I'm actually happy for him, because I have no idea how he did it, but this honestly represents the best shot at pussy he's probably ever going to have. She's ok looking (a 5.5) he's socially retarded, not great looking, and only makes around 20k a year. Trying to teach him game would be like trying to teach a rhinoceros to swing-dance.

[Menace]

Game is best for guys who, but for the knowledge it brings, are otherwise successful. I suspect a lot of PUA hate comes from guys who are social retards and think that learning some techniques will open the magical gates of vagina land. I don't like hanging out with guys who are socially inept, so for sure women don't either.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-20-2013 10:46 PM)DVY Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:33 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:11 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:07 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Donde?

That's the challenge.

Unlike you and others, I hate traveling. So I'd want to put in "roots" for 6-12 months.

I also like a lot of "gay" stuff like art museums, fine dining, and walkable cities.

So I don't know.

(I also happen to be in a place that I think my be perfect for me, so that factors in).

I guess the good thing is, the world is narrowing for me.

@MikeCF- Ever thought about putting roots in 2 different areas? Most playboy-friendly metropolitan cities have terrible climates at least 50% of the year. Monsoon, subzero winters, itchy hot 100% humidity summers, etc etc.

@G-manifesto- Whats your "perfect place"? Whats your checklist?

Also, this quote may apply to the western world fully, but go anywhere in Asia and "game" will take you very far. "Game" will make you a semi-celebrity.

Still haven't found my absolute "perfect place", (I should have been more clear above). That is why I ask so many questions to people about places they like.

I think I am working off my "Two Cities Theory" for the future:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9436.html

That was actually a really good thread.

How about you?