[zanetti]

are you using online dating websites, e.g. japan cupid?

i've been to Pure in Osaka once, never again - thought it was a complete dive. reminded me of London, nasty people (most non-japanese), nasty attitutudes

[Lemmo]

(06-03-2013 09:46 AM)zanetti Wrote:  

are you using online dating websites, e.g. japan cupid?

i've been to Pure in Osaka once, never again - thought it was a complete dive. reminded me of London, nasty people (most non-japanese), nasty attitutudes

Yeah, there are a lot of places like this in Tokyo - where the dregs of the foreign population and girls with foreign fetishes meet. I avoid any place that advertises in English or appears to cater to foreigners.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(06-03-2013 09:46 AM)zanetti Wrote:  

are you using online dating websites, e.g. japan cupid?

I haven't tried any dating sites here yet,, though I'd really only like to use those as a last resort. I just prefer talking to girls in the real world.

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i've been to Pure in Osaka once, never again - thought it was a complete dive. reminded me of London, nasty people (most non-japanese), nasty attitutudes

You're right about Pure. This is why I won't be frequenting that place anymore. Admittedlly, I probably should have avoided it after that first blowout marathon I went through. I remember an article by Roosh that was posted a few years back, in which he advised leaving a club if you encounter three consecutive blowouts. While I wouldn't take it this that far (after all, I've managed to hook up with girls after being shot down by three other girls in a row before), the general gist of it holds true.

[Travelsick]

Re clothing: I only spent a week in Japan, but lived in Seoul for a while, but if J-Girls are anything like K-Girls, short skirts don't anything, don't draw conclusions from how they dress to how willing they are to quickly get physical with you.

Why are you avoiding the foreigner fetish group? It's your easiest in. Online dating probably caters to that, since the websites are in english. Again, if it's anything like Korea, social circle should be key. A group of japanese that are friendly/curious about westerners and take you under their wings. "My friends want to hang out with your friends" is the easiest in. Just approaching strangers in the street or anywhere for that matter I found most difficult to do in my time in first world Asia.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(06-04-2013 03:45 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  

Re clothing: I only spent a week in Japan, but lived in Seoul for a while, but if J-Girls are anything like K-Girls, short skirts don't anything, don't draw conclusions from how they dress to how willing they are to quickly get physical with you.

Please don't misunderstand me. I meant that the Girls wearing short skirts are unlikely to be shy or socially conservative. I did not mean that they're necessarily easy to get inton bed. If they were, then I would be getting laid more frequently here.
Indeed, this seems true. The types of Japanese women who are outwardly shy and reserved are rarely the ones you see as described above, and they're not usually the types you find in clubs and bars. Again, this is has nothing to do with ease, nor did I wish to imply that it was. It only meant that I found it odd that the Australian mentioned shyness as the reason he had trouble getting laid in Japanese nightclubs.

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Why are you avoiding the foreigner fetish group?

Uh...I said I was avoiding Pure, not the "foreigner fetish group."

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Again, if it's anything like Korea, social circle should be key. A group of japanese that are friendly/curious about westerners and take you under their wings. "My friends want to hang out with your friends" is the easiest in. Just approaching strangers in the street or anywhere for that matter I found most difficult to do in my time in first world Asia.

Although the majority of my approaches were in nightclubs, point taken. It's something I can try to include in my repertoire, even though I try to avoid letting the two things get too Close (bad experiences). Nevertheless, it's definitely worth at least a few tries.

[Sargon of Akkad]

I would like to relay the above comment about social circles as a question to the other guys based here in Japan: to which extent did social circle play a role in your sexual encounters? As a rough estimate, how many of the girls you hooked up with came from your social circle and how many would you say came from cold approaches?

[w00t]

You seem to focus heavily on japanese girls ... well understandably so.
But maybe you might try hitting on some fellow exchange students? When I did my exchange semester there were a lot of parties, pubcrawls and activities organized by the university with girls from all over the place and lots of them seemed pretty DTF since they were away from home. Are there no such things going on at your university?

[Woolf]

@Sargon
You do the typical German approach, counting the sets and see set by set and forgetting the big picture.

In specific:
If You are in the club, you don´t make only 5 sets, You make more something like 100. A set is not defined as a 5-minute conversation, see it more as a non-stop interaction with all people that are in the club. A smile to a girl is an approach. A poke with these lightning sticks they have everywhere is an approach (a good one btw). Perhaps I went to different places but for example in Bambi or OWL it´s a high energy game - nothing different from the US. Girls have their bitch shields and looking for people who have fun. You go there, speak with everybody, get in state, have fun, creating warm approaches. I´m pretty sure most sets that didn´t turn out well, were lost 2 hours before the approach.

[Don Corleone]

(06-04-2013 02:22 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

I would like to relay the above comment about social circles as a question to the other guys based here in Japan: to which extent did social circle play a role in your sexual encounters? As a rough estimate, how many of the girls you hooked up with came from your social circle and how many would you say came from cold approaches?

I've been to the country several times and I'll tell you my own experience.

Social circle can help, but it depends on whether or not you're dealing with a discreet crew. Some people can keep their mouths shut, but I've found that I'd rather not bang from my own social circle and have it get messy. Cold approaches are king--especially Night Game. It's good to go with a wing so people know that you're social/safe. Interact with both men and women at clubs, but always take the dominant role in your interactions with them. And seriously, go for the masculine energy. Don't try to imitate the feminized trends going on in Japan right now.

I'm surprised that you haven't gotten as many numbers from night approaches. Have you been utilizing LINE at all? I might be headed to Osaka for a vacation sometime this summer. If I'm in town, I could always wing.

[Sargon of Akkad]

Just came back from a date. 22 year old girl I'd approached at Starbucks last month. Second time with this one. This time she contacted me herself and asked me out, taking me from dinner, to a bar, to karaoke. Lots of touching and fondling. More touching, more fondling. Couldn't kiss her, despite best efforts, though. Fun girl, btw; scheduled to meet again at Umeda next week, unless she flakes (seems unlikely that she will, but it should always be factored in).

(06-05-2013 05:47 AM)Don Corleone Wrote:  

I've been to the country several times and I'll tell you my own experience.

Social circle can help, but it depends on whether or not you're dealing with a discreet crew. Some people can keep their mouths shut, but I've found that I'd rather not bang from my own social circle and have it get messy.

This is the main reason I dislike messing around with social circle. Shit where you eat too often, and you'll ultimately wind up with food poisoning. If I'm looking for a nice girlfriend, that's fine, but if I've got several fuckbuddies and short flings that can come to bite me int he ass sooner or later.

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I'm surprised that you haven't gotten as many numbers from night approaches.

Most of my numbers actually came from daytime approaches. There were only four cases in which I went for a phonenumber from a club.

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I might be headed to Osaka for a vacation sometime this summer. If I'm in town, I could always wing.

Would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(06-05-2013 02:24 AM)Woolf Wrote:  

@Sargon
You do the typical German approach, counting the sets and see set by set and forgetting the big picture.

In specific:
If You are in the club, you don´t make only 5 sets, You make more something like 100. A set is not defined as a 5-minute conversation, see it more as a non-stop interaction with all people that are in the club. A smile to a girl is an approach. A poke with these lightning sticks they have everywhere is an approach (a good one btw).

This doesn't seem very practical to me. I typically count approaches as something more concrete, meaning I actually walk up to a woman and start talking, dance, or otherwise convey interest. For me it only counts as an approach either when I close with something (number, makeout, sex), or she rejects me.

If your model works for you, that's great, but for me, if I were to count smiles and the like as approaches, I'd get lazy. I'd start grinning at every girl who passes me by, making pointless chitchat that led nowhere, and come home saying I'd done 50 approaches, when in fact I'd only done three of any real value.

This is the only way I can push myself. Maybe it's this anal German attitude that was imprinted on me in adolescence, but I need something measurable. To me, approaches are like individual pushups or squats in a workout program. Not counting something as an uproach until I close or get rejected is kind of like making sure I do a full pushup instead of simply humping the floor a hundred times and proudly boasting that I've done one hundred pushups.

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You go there, speak with everybody, get in state, have fun, creating warm approaches. I´m pretty sure most sets that didn´t turn out well, were lost 2 hours before the approach.

You have a point here, and this is a sticking point of mine that I'm trying to change. I have the bad habit of looking at a night out as work, and as a result, I can come across as too serious. No doubt I'd have at least somewhat better results by focusing on having fun.

[boo]

1. Sargon did you try Giraffe as well? Or does it no longer exist?

2. Someone here asked about pipelining. You can try out this thing: http://whytomo.com/en/
Friends making website. Set up meetings by the numbers, usually with girls. Hit on the ones you like, make friends with the ones you don't. They'll invite you to more of their events/parties thingies and you can hit on their social circle. These people will basically speak English most of the time or are willing to try to.
While there and if you get a .jp phone and your .jp is good enough you can try mixi. I never did as it's by japanese for japanese and foreigners aren't really officially welcome. Besides you need to know japanese.

3. Sargon again, you don't just go to clubs to do approaches the standard way. You go there to 'have fun'. What I usually did was walk around, try to dance with some girl, ask her a couple questions. In clubs with them it's really really binary, on or off, 1 or 0. They either blow you off or they'll be receptive. It's really pointless to actually maintain much of a conversation. I never really went beyond what's your name? how old are you? and what do you do?. Most J-girls suck at dancing. So do J-guys. You don't have to be Michael Jackson to impress them but anything other than nodding your head is already a +.

4. Weird about Grand Cafe. When I was there it was pretty crowded. Maybe you went too early?

5. WRT the girl. Rule #1 in dates: Don't try your first kiss out in anything public. Make sure it's either a remote place like the Karaoke room, or it's dark on the street and nobody's around. Also don't get discouraged if she doesn't kiss on the first date. Some require more work. As a rule of thumb: if she takes your kino she's interested. Don't appear too creepy or pushy. Keep escalating slowly but surely. At first just grab a hip, touch some ass. As time goes by also touch a leg, touch higher, run your finger through the top side of her pants or pull on her skirt a bit. Keep it there for a bit until she's comfy with it. Next thing you know you'll be in her panties and she'll have to kiss you because getting fingered will be weird otherwise.

Oh I miss that country ))))

[Sargon of Akkad]

(06-09-2013 06:11 AM)boo Wrote:  

1. Sargon did you try Giraffe as well? Or does it no longer exist?

Yeah, I've tried Giraffe, not very often, though, since it closes at 1:30. Might try it again this weekend.

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2. Someone here asked about pipelining. You can try out this thing: http://whytomo.com/en/

Thanks, I'll try that out.

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3. Sargon again, you don't just go to clubs to do approaches the standard way. You go there to 'have fun'. What I usually did was walk around, try to dance with some girl, ask her a couple questions. In clubs with them it's really really binary, on or off, 1 or 0. They either blow you off or they'll be receptive.

This is actually pretty much what I did, too, though I admit, I need to focus more on 'having fun' rather than looking at this as work. That has hurt me in the past, though nowhere near as much as here. However, I can't say their reactions have really been 'binary'.

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4. Weird about Grand Cafe. When I was there it was pretty crowded. Maybe you went too early?

By 2:30 in the morning? The place closes at about three.

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5. WRT the girl. Rule #1 in dates: Don't try your first kiss out in anything public. Make sure it's either a remote place like the Karaoke room, or it's dark on the street and nobody's around. Also don't get discouraged if she doesn't kiss on the first date. Some require more work. As a rule of thumb: if she takes your kino she's interested. Don't appear too creepy or pushy. Keep escalating slowly but surely. At first just grab a hip, touch some ass. As time goes by also touch a leg, touch higher, run your finger through the top side of her pants or pull on her skirt a bit. Keep it there for a bit until she's comfy with it. Next thing you know you'll be in her panties and she'll have to kiss you because getting fingered will be weird otherwise.

Yeah, the touching and kiss attempts went on in the karaoke booth. It was the second date, btw. Since she didn't object to being touched and she placed her hand on my leg, I wasn't discouraged.

[iknowexactly]

(06-09-2013 09:33 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

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3. Sargon again, you don't just go to clubs to do approaches the standard way. You go there to 'have fun'. What I usually did was walk around, try to dance with some girl, ask her a couple questions. In clubs with them it's really really binary, on or off, 1 or 0. They either blow you off or they'll be receptive.

This is actually pretty much what I did, too, though I admit, I need to focus more on 'having fun' rather than looking at this as work. That has hurt me in the past, though nowhere near as much as here. However, I can't say their reactions have really been 'binary'.

If I read this thread right you're huge, with a very deep voice, study very rigorously and know several languages, and are systematic.

I agree on increasing the fun and vulnerability factor. I haven't been to Japan, but it is where Hello Kitty came from. They seem to love cute, and if you seem too harsh it may not make for setting the mood for sexytime.

Also, any wing at all would proof you and mkae you seem less threatening.

When you say no one cares if you're foreign etc, is it possible they are just keeping that Japanese stone face WRT negative emotions.

I think you may be a little scary to them, sounds like you might be scary even where people are more familiar with your physical type.

Now western chicks aren't scared, they want to fight you. They're strong, independent women.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(06-09-2013 10:03 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I think you may be a little scary to them, sounds like you might be scary even where people are more familiar with your physical type.

I guess it's also hard to assess this without a picture of me, but out of the past 10 women I've had sex with, about half were cute, petite Asian chicks, and the other half were just slightly less cute Asian chicks, so I can't be that scary to them. It is true that on some occasions, the Japanese will seem shy and nervous around me, but it doesn't seem that alone can be seen as an excuse or as the sole cause of anything. Plus, I've seen strong, thug-style black guys bigger than me making out with girls here (I'm sure they're more intimidating than me), so if they can do it, I'm sure I can get the hang of it, too.

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Now western chicks aren't scared, they want to fight you. They're strong, independent women.

So far, I've never had any Western chicks try to fight me. That'd be funny, though.

[boo]

That's at the very least odd. New legislation perhaps? When I was there in 2010 they all closed around 4-4:30 as trains started running around 5. The crowdedness started around 12-1 or so as trains stopped running into town. Not sure why they would start closing so early nowadays though.

Sargon, remember to smile Also you can try the following, try dumbing your Japanese down a bit. Make mistakes, look for words, ask what something's called, tell them to teach you kansai, that sort of stuff. Maybe ask the thug-style black guys how they do it, get some pointers.
Remember that most J-chix are strong, independent women too. When compared to J-guys. They just know how to play dumb and keep the appearances and entertain you with their cutsey womanhoodness.

[Balboa]

(06-11-2013 09:44 AM)boo Wrote:  

That's at the very least odd. New legislation perhaps? When I was there in 2010 they all closed around 4-4:30 as trains started running around 5. The crowdedness started around 12-1 or so as trains stopped running into town. Not sure why they would start closing so early nowadays though.

Yeah there was a big crackdown on illegal late closing. Some venues closed completely. Guess someone forgot to pay off the right people (not saying it was Hashimoto).

[boo]

Considering how people live in the suburbs and commute by train this move pretty much killed the nightlife in Osaka. There's no way to reasonably fill the 1:30 - 5:00 am gap to get home bumming around on the streets. This is actually big. Not sure returning to Osaka would be desirable now. I wonder if it's the same in Tokyo.

[Sargon of Akkad]

Sorry for the late update. I decided I wouldn't post another entry until the next time I got laid.

Just hit it about two hours ago. Broke a two month dry spell...and...it...was...GLORIOUS!

To sum it up: she was a fairly cute 23 year old housewife (first time I've ever boned a married girl); deep tan (not popular by most E. Asian standards, but I kinda liked it), big round eyes, long hair dyed brown. Picked her up off the street in Nishi Tenman 西天満 near Tenjimbashi 天神橋 last week。Went for lunch today at about noon and brought her back to my place where we hit it off.

I'll write the details in a later post along with general info about how things are here.

So far that makes...

152 approaches, 26 numbers, 8 dates, about 6 makeouts, 2 bangs
Batting average: 1 bang for every 76 approaches (1.34%)

[Mekorig]

Felicitaciones!!! Congratulations!!! おめでとうございます!!!

[Sargon of Akkad]

So, last week I posted in this thread, saying I’d elaborate on the last bang, my recent approaches, and the general vibe of this place.

The Housewife (Bang #2)

It was about 20:00, and I was walking around Tenjimbashi looking to clear my head and looking for girls to approach. By then I’d approached three women that day. The first two I’d opened by asking for directions followed by random babble. These had led to fun, five to ten minute long conversations, but each of them had declined when I tried to go for the number. The third had been a cute girl with a fine ass walking her dog in a park by the river. I tried to open her with a simple “すみません、この川の名前はなんですか？Sumimasen, kono kawa no namae ha nan desuka?” (Excuse me, what’s the name of this river? – yeah, BS, I know, but it was better than nothing).

Her answer was a quick and painless “わかんないです、すみませーん。Wakannai desu, sumimaseeeen (I don’t know, sorryyyyy)” as she practically ran off. Oh well, it was dark, she was alone with her little puppy, and I was a big, scary foreign man. Not much else to expect in that situation, I suppose. “Oh well, that’s three approaches for today,” I thought as I continued to walk from their to Umeda (hell, I like walking).

On the way back when I passed by Tenjimbashi I saw this fairly attractive young girl (about a 7) with big round eyes and tanned skin walk by me who was giving me probably the biggest eye-fuck I’d seen since stepping off the plane in this country. I decide to open her, asking her in a careful and harmless “how can I get from here to Kyobashi?” followed by random chitchat. She seems to be going along. Continues eye fucking me and putting on this cute demeanor. I ask her if she’s a student. Turns out she’s a housewife, and was off to meet up with her husband and his colleagues for karaoke.

“Oookaay,” I think, but she still keeps giving me this “goddammit, I want to squat right here down and start sucking you off this instant!”-look, so I decide to probe a bit deeper. We continue walking down the street together, and eventually the conversation turns to Universal Studios in Osaka. She asks if I’ve ever been there, saying we should go there together. As she says this, she whips out her iPhone and asks me to give her my number. By the time we’ve exchanged contact info, the entrance to the karaoke joint she’s supposed to meet her danna-san is just to the right of us. She walks off and tells me to give her a call…or does she “I’ll call you”?...either way, doesn’t matter.

The following Tuesday, ’bout five days later, I text her and set a date for Thursday. Since her husband is home in the evening, we decide to meet at noon and go for lunch. We eat at a place near Kyôbashi, and later switch to a nearby Starbucks. I tell her a bunch of stories about China, Germany, Europe in general, telling her I’ve got a bunch of pictures on my laptop back home and suggesting we go back to my place to look at them. “It’s only fifteen minutes away by train.”

“Okay,” she says, and off we go. Back at my place, the air conditioner is acting funny, so we’re both sweating like pigs. I start to escalate, but my progress is slow. A couple hours of cuddling and making out follows before the dress comes off, then the shirt, then the undies. She’s hesitant to take her top off, saying her tits are really small.

“大丈夫Daijoubu/It's okay” I say.

“でもめっちゃ小っちゃい！Demo METCHA chitchai!! (But they’re REALLY small)”. I’m paraphrasing here.

”問題ないMondai nai (no problem).”

(Again, paraphrasing) 本当に小さい。子供みたい。Honto-ni chiisai. Kodomo mitai (They’re really small. Looks like a kid!).

“God, I GET it already. So you’ve got small tits, I don’t care!” I think to myself. Call me weird, but I really don’t care about the size of a girl's tits. Yeah, it’s nice if they’re a bit bigger, but it’s not a deal breaker if they’re small, plus, it’s really not that uncommon for Asian girls to have small tits. The only thing that really bothers me is ugly nipples.

I don’t know how it is with others, but when two months go by without sex, and there’s a lot of tension before it finally goes down, my performance is shit. Plus she was tight as HELL! I blast pretty much after the first couple of minutes.
She says something like “ごめん、あたしは上手じゃない、何もできない Gomen, atashi ha amari jôzu jyanai, nani mo dekinai. (Sorry, I’m not that good. I can’t do anything -- again, just paraphrasing).”

“大丈夫Daijôbu/No problem,” I say with a smile (seriously, she wasn’t that bad). We shower together, after which I give her a quick tour of the place and see her off at the bus stop, all the while various songs by Queen are running through my head. She says something along the lines of "It was fun, let's hang out ('asobu' was the word she used) again." About 45 minutes later, she texts me saying "今日はありがとう。帰れた。またスタバ行こーね”　Thanks, I was able to return home. Let's go to Starbucks again.　I crack open a can of Asahi out of the fridge to celebrate my victory.

More info coming soon.

So far, that's 2 down, 8 more to go...

[Akula]

(07-17-2013 03:28 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

So, last week I posted in this thread, saying I’d elaborate on the last bang, my recent approaches, and the general vibe of this place.

The Housewife (Bang #2)

It was about 20:00, and I was walking around Tenjimbashi looking to clear my head and looking for girls to approach. By then I’d approached three women that day. The first two I’d opened by asking for directions followed by random babble. These had led to fun, five to ten minute long conversations, but each of them had declined when I tried to go for the number. The third had been a cute girl with a fine ass walking her dog in a park by the river. I tried to open her with a simple “すみません、この川の名前はなんですか？Sumimasen, kono kawa no namae ha nan desuka?” (Excuse me, what’s the name of this river? – yeah, BS, I know, but it was better than nothing).

Her answer was a quick and painless “わかんないです、すみませーん。Wakannai desu, sumimaseeeen (I don’t know, sorryyyyy)” as she practically ran off. Oh well, it was dark, she was alone with her little puppy, and I was a big, scary foreign man. Not much else to expect in that situation, I suppose. “Oh well, that’s three approaches for today,” I thought as I continued to walk from their to Umeda (hell, I like walking).

On the way back when I passed by Tenjimbashi I saw this fairly attractive young girl (about a 7) with big round eyes and tanned skin walk by me who was giving me probably the biggest eye-fuck I’d seen since stepping off the plane in this country. I decide to open her, asking her in a careful and harmless “how can I get from here to Kyobashi?” followed by random chitchat. She seems to be going along. Continues eye fucking me and putting on this cute demeanor. I ask her if she’s a student. Turns out she’s a housewife, and was off to meet up with her husband and his colleagues for karaoke.

“Oookaay,” I think, but she still keeps giving me this “goddammit, I want to squat right here down and start sucking you off this instant!”-look, so I decide to probe a bit deeper. We continue walking down the street together, and eventually the conversation turns to Universal Studios in Osaka. She asks if I’ve ever been there, saying we should go there together. As she says this, she whips out her iPhone and asks me to give her my number. By the time we’ve exchanged contact info, the entrance to the karaoke joint she’s supposed to meet her danna-san is just to the right of us. She walks off and tells me to give her a call…or does she “I’ll call you”?...either way, doesn’t matter.

The following Tuesday, ’bout five days later, I text her and set a date for Thursday. Since her husband is home in the evening, we decide to meet at noon and go for lunch. We eat at a place near Kyôbashi, and later switch to a nearby Starbucks. I tell her a bunch of stories about China, Germany, Europe in general, telling her I’ve got a bunch of pictures on my laptop back home and suggesting we go back to my place to look at them. “It’s only fifteen minutes away by train.”

“Okay,” she says, and off we go. Back at my place, the air conditioner is acting funny, so we’re both sweating like pigs. I start to escalate, but my progress is slow. A couple hours of cuddling and making out follows before the dress comes off, then the shirt, then the undies. She’s hesitant to take her top off, saying her tits are really small.

“大丈夫Daijoubu/It's okay” I say.

“でもめっちゃ小っちゃい！Demo METCHA chitchai!! (But they’re REALLY small)”. I’m paraphrasing here.

”問題ないMondai nai (no problem).”

(Again, paraphrasing) 本当に小さい。子供みたい。Honto-ni chiisai. Kodomo mitai (They’re really small. Looks like a kid!).

“God, I GET it already. So you’ve got small tits, I don’t care!” I think to myself. Call me weird, but I really don’t care about the size of a girl's tits. Yeah, it’s nice if they’re a bit bigger, but it’s not a deal breaker if they’re small, plus, it’s really not that uncommon for Asian girls to have small tits. The only thing that really bothers me is ugly nipples.

I don’t know how it is with others, but when two months go by without sex, and there’s a lot of tension before it finally goes down, my performance is shit. Plus she was tight as HELL! I blast pretty much after the first couple of minutes.
She says something like “ごめん、あたしは上手じゃない、何もできない Gomen, atashi ha amari jôzu jyanai, nani mo dekinai. (Sorry, I’m not that good. I can’t do anything -- again, just paraphrasing).”

“大丈夫Daijôbu/No problem,” I say with a smile (seriously, she wasn’t that bad). We shower together, after which I give her a quick tour of the place and see her off at the bus stop, all the while various songs by Queen are running through my head. She says something along the lines of "It was fun, let's hang out ('asobu' was the word she used) again." About 45 minutes later, she texts me saying "今日はありがとう。帰れた。またスタバ行こーね”　Thanks, I was able to return home. Let's go to Starbucks again.　I crack open a can of Asahi out of the fridge to celebrate my victory.

More info coming soon.

So far, that's 2 down, 8 more to go...

well done! Congrats on the sex! U earned that Asahi...

Been following this thread, one think I noticed about me is that although I've just ended my own cold streak, I've gotta start doing more approaches. I tend to get complacent when I've got 6-7 things going on simultaneously, thinking that 2-3 of them will pan out, when I'm lucky to get just 1. Gotta play the numbers more.

[Sargon of Akkad]

On the general tendencies I've experienced in these past few months:

Feel free to correct me or offer alternative oppinions if your experiences differ...

"Nampa" and Street Approaches

It turns out Scotch was right after all. ナンパNampa/pickup is ubiquitous here. As I've mentioned before, I've seen these guys lingering mainly around crowded areas, particularly at the Keihan Mall entrance at Kyobashi (avoid this place like the plague!), the entrance to Hepp-5, and around Dôtomburi. Another example is a time when I once went to lunch with two Korean female students. The three of us sat down at a table in the cafeteria, and I got up to get some water. Not so much as two minutes pass by when I come back to find that the two of them are surrounded by about five or so guys who've sat down at our table trying to get their numbers.

Why this is the case is everyone's guess, but some of the girls here have developed somewhat of an immunity against it. This isn't necessarily the case all the time, but you shouldn't be surprised when you encounter it. The result is that in some situations, you will be called out on it one way or another when you approach a girl, even if you're being fairly indirect. It has also happened on several occasions that a girl will directly blow you out on the street after the words "すみません/excuse me" leave your lips. You can minimize this by making it as clear as possible that you need help with something, such as by pointing somewhere with slightly exagerated gestures, walking around looking confused as though you were lost, stating the words "place xyz..." as soon as possible. This'll usually lower their guard a bit, and you can try to get in a bit of conversation, but nevertheless, the occasional street blowout is something you'll have to deal with. So far, this is the only country where something like this has ever really occured. Scotch was right in his statement that simply talking to a woman you don't know on the street can occasionally get you accused of nampa.

Don't worry, though. Out of the last twenty or so street approaches I've done, two or three ended in what I would call a blowout. It doesn't happen too often, but you should be prepared for it, nonetheless, and women seem to have their guards up a bit more than in other countries I've been to.

You'll likely find that this rarely happens in coffee shops. Actually, I've never been blown out in a place like this. Problem is, these places are usually crowded, and the only seat available is often the one between a group of old ladies, some salarymen and a group of middle school students.

Of course, you can get laid from street approaches alone, as my last post has shown, but if there's any place that's proven it's a numbers game, it's Japan. It's definitely possible to pull here, but I have to put much more work into it that in other places, such as China or Central Europe.

Speaking of China, another thing I've noticed is that I've had an easier time with the Chinese girls here, and I plan to dig further into that demographic these coming months. Firstly, they seem to have less of an 'immune system' to nampa than a lot of Japanese girls (then again, this is mostly a suspicion as of yet, and I still need to gather more info to say this with any degree of certainty), plus, if you speak Chinese, you've instantly got at least your foot in the door with 99% or them. Korean girls might be another avenue to delve into.

More info coming soon...

[memcpy]

yea the street is the hardest place, which is why i stick to the bookstores, supermarkets, etc. You will almost rarely get called out on nanpa if you stick to those places. I usually go indirect there.

But if i see a girl on the street i'll go direct.

Nanpa is a problem, there seems to be a lot of thirsty Japanese guys here.

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(07-18-2013 06:00 PM)memcpy Wrote:  

yea the street is the hardest place, which is why i stick to the bookstores, supermarkets, etc. You will almost rarely get called out on nanpa if you stick to those places. I usually go indirect there.

But if i see a girl on the street i'll go direct.

How do these direct approaches usually turn out for you?
I get the impression most Japanese girls don't react well to directness, though maybe it's just me.