Quote: (11-23-2013 03:39 PM)Collide Wrote:
Perhaps it's possible that social circle decreases the chances of flaking? I've had flakes before but the ones that did flake I usually met alone, we had no common friends so she had no qualms with not returning texts.
This is interesting. In your experience, Japanese girls you met through mutual acquaintances were less flakey than those you met through so-called "cold approaches". I have to say this is different from my experience. Let me give a quick background on my experiences with the flakiness of Japanese women...
The first Japanese person I had to deal with was actually for the language exchange. It was shortly after I had just begun learning the language right after returning from Beijing. A mutual friend had given me her email, saying the girl wanted to practice English. I messaged her and we set an appointment for Friday afternoon. She never showed up. I was pissed, but since this was one of the first Japanese I'd had to deal, I blamed it on her -- not her nationality. A friend said "well, maybe that's just part of her culture. I thought "what are you stupid? This is just one person!
one person hardly indicates a trend!”
Later, I started frequenting a Japanese-German exchange group organized through Facebook, having been introduced by a mutual acquaintance. Met lots of Japanese students, mostly average-looking girls (5’s and 6’s at best). It was useful, as I got many chances to hear Japanese being spoken in a natural setting. One night, sitting next to a Japanese girl in the group, the conversation turned to language partners. She said enthusiastically “I want a language partner, too!" We exchanged numbers and agreed to contact each other. Without getting into detail, we arranged to meet up 6 times. Ended up meeting twice. The other times she flaked…the very last minute. Headache. Lost her cellphone. Had a cold, or some similar BS, and always 20 minutes or so before we were supposed to meet. Odd," I thought to myself, "then again, just two people. Weird luck. Sure most Japanese are reliable."
Next up was a guy, also mainly language exchange, though we’d met before. First time we arranged to meet up at the uni library at about 14:00. Remember, this was his idea. He had specifically placed an ad saying he was looking for language practice. I get there at about five to two. At two o‘clock, no one's there. At 14:15, I send him a message "Hey, Toshi, where you at?" Five minutes later, a response..."Oh, sorry, I've got a cold, can't make it today." Really? Couldn't wait just a
bit earlier to tell me that?? Turns out he actually had a cold, but still. We met a few times after that, through. Even then, it hadn’t yet entered my mind that this had anything to do with them being Japanese. At this point, it just seemed like freakish luck I was having.
Next up was a chubby girl I also met through that group and through mutual acquaintances. No sexual interest in her at all. Just wanted language exchange. We arranged to meet Wednesday afternoon, 15:00 at the cafeteria. Again, 15:10, no one's there, but I decide to wait another ten. 15:20, I decide to give her a call. No answer. 15:30, I call her again. No answer. 15:45 or something I get a call. "Holy shit, sorry, I forgot we were supposed to meet up. I'm in another town visiting a friend! This one was nice about it though. She invited me out that night with her friends (neither of whom was particularly attractive), even bought me a drink to show how sorry she was, so I didn't stay mad. Plus we met up a few more times, after that. Still...this was an...odd pattern that seemed to be emerging.
Next at another get together with this Japanese group, a girl from the local music academy happened to be sitting next to me. As we were talking I noticed she kept touching me and leaning in extremely close, writing shit on my arm with her finger whenever I asked how to write something in Japanese. Not bad looking. Kind of attractive. She'd been living in Germany for two years or so, but her German was still shit. We exchanged numbers and I asked her out, saying I'd call her later to confirm when and where. Later, I call her and we set a date for a bar downtown Friday at 20:00 or so. Friday comes around, I'm getting ready to leave. Suddenly I get a message. "Sorry. My head hurts. Can't make it today
![[Image: sad.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/sad.gif)
" Still, I haven’t begun to assume any sort of pattern, though I think this is just a BIT weird.
Next was another girl I met while going out with mutual acquaintances. Similar to the last one I met up with. Spend most of the night talking. Lots of close proximity. Set up a date over the phone. Flakes shortly before we're supposed to meet up. I think about three of four other cases took place where I was flaked on in a similar fashion by the Japanese. By the time the eighth or so Japanese girl or acquaintance had pulled this shit, it had become impossible to overlook the pattern:
**Nearly all the Japanese I had in any way had to arrange a meeting with had flaked, and the majority of flakes that year had been from Japanese female exchange students.**
Of course, there had been some isolated incidents where I had talked to a non-Japanese girl who had flaked (a few Koreans come to mind here, but even they weren’t usually this bad), yet these were never the majority. Was it just that the Japanese at our university were like this? Odd, since they came from all over Japan. The last Japanese girl I’d set up a date with I was contemplating flaking on myself, since I was sure she was going to flake like the others. However, I decided to go with it anyway since she was one of those semi-“blueballer” type 4-5s I talked about in an earlier post, and I wasn’t about to pass up a chance at some action with that. Luckily, this one was an exception, and we ended up having sex the first date and dating for about half a year. However, one girl did not help to change my increasingly cautious views with regard to Japanese students. Still, since I was studying the language, I wanted to come here anyway, just for the experience. Plus…Osaka…fucking Osaka! It’s the second biggest city in the country. Even if the girls
are flakey, nothing that playing the numbers won’t be able to handle, right?…right?
Hopefully, this gives a decent account of my experiences with Japanese women prior to coming here. In my experience, the Japanese have been the worlds flakiest nationality both abroad and at home, both after cold and warm approaches, both on dates and platonic meetups. Maybe they just act that way around me. How knows.
Delenda est Osaka.