[Chad Daring]

I used too, but one of the most fundamental things I've learned about game, you're in it for the long haul. I REALLY hoped that reading Bang, reading these forums, and changing a few things about myself would mean one night stands would rain from the sky, but it didn't happen. I actually hit a low point a few months after finding Roosh because of this.

I think its more about reading the signs that are there. If she invites you back to her place then YES, FULL STEAM AHEAD, but if she seems interested, but has to work in the morning, and gosh its late, then, personally, no. I will say I almost always go for a makeout though.

[mrhappy]

Just because you went in her pad doesn't mean anything would have happened. that is your first lesson grasshopper. Kung Fu
your second lesson is have no expectations. nothing is ever certain with chicks. they can withdraw consent as youre sticking it in.
hope for the best and expect the worst.

(06-04-2010 11:17 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Thanks for the feedback guys, yeah I am seeing how I messed up what was likely a sure thing on my first date, live and learn I suppose, it just sucks that girls are so damn fickle!

[Caligula]

(10-03-2011 08:05 PM)mrhappy Wrote:  

(10-03-2011 07:59 PM)mrhappy Wrote:  

"the 3 date principal for getting the lay, has now moved to 2 dates."
I disagree based on my experience and talking to girls. If you push hard you'll get dumped more often. Yes girls want to fuck but they are scared of being labeled a slut, easy or feeling guilty.

It's not a question of getting 'dumped' - I sometimes push for sex on the first date and always on the second date. Sometimes it doesn't happen till the third date.

Even the girls who want to wait longer than what you're pushing for don't seem to mind it. Give it a shot, shrug and move on; try again later or next date. It's no big deal. If they freak out about it consider it your cue to move on.

http://www.rooshv.com/theres-no-punishme...ng-for-sex

[mrhappy]

This is good advice. spend the night with them. Secondary benefit is morning sex.

(07-10-2010 08:03 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Get them to sleep over, talk to them immediately after the sex, etc. If you want to date them, sex early is fine, but continue to go on dates with them, instead of having them meet you in your bedroom every time (ah, college, farewell).

Girls have this idea that one night stands aren't so bad, but putting out on the first date is the sluttiest thing a girl can do, so she may feel extremely vulnerable after banging you.

[mrhappy]

Yes bro, it is really necessary.

(10-03-2011 08:47 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

Is it really necessary to post four times in a row? You could have combined the last three into one bro.

[mrhappy]

OK Mixx, you need to write a book. Whats your blog, twitter, website etc?

[soup]

(02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

@oldnemesis - the problem is that I have banged too many women in my life from all walks of life, races, financial means, looks, motives etc.

I have banged girls that swear they are die-hard religious "good girls" looking to become future nuns, (one even had a screenshot of Jesu Christ on her cell phone) immediately start praying after sex - begging for the lords forgiveness.

I have banged women who say "oh my god, I have never cheated on my husband before" right after having sex with me.

I have banged women in private jets that net more than $100M, to banging women that live in slums and ghettos - waiting for prince charming to save them from a life of struggle and hardship.

I have banged women who have elusive PHD's and keynote speakers at exclusive high society events, to banging women with only a GED and dreams.

I have banged my sexy 5th grade school teacher at a school reunion party that gave me hard-ons during math class. ** How many can say that?

I have banged gold-diggers and cave divers, to beauty pageant queens and ugly Bettys in a time of need.

I have banged women from as far south as Argentina, to as far east as Slovenia: They all favor doggie style over any position.

I have banged women who tell me they are strict lesbians and I am their first dick, to banging mother and daughter combinations.

I have banged women whose husbands have paid me to watch me fuck their wives at fetish parties. I once even banged two Colombiana twins backstage of a reggeaton concert in Medellin.

I have banged women who leave 100 dollar bills on my nightstand (without me asking for it) to women who have slashed the tires of my car and broke my windows.

I have banged women who have carried my seed and are in complete ecstasy at the thought of being the mother of my child, to later on miscarriage and cry until the sun goes down.

I have banged college girls and cougars alike, I even banged my mothers best girlfriend when I was 15. ** She still has not forgiven me for that

I have banged a corporate executive inside the bathroom of her office, and even banged a woman that worked at a spa in the middle of a jungle; right after she gave my girl a massage and she fell asleep.

I have banged good girls in Colombia to bad girls in New York, to bangin' Kim Kardashian look-a-like pros in Costa Rica.

I have banged women on the phone with their boyfriends; telling him how much she loves him while I'm pounding her.

I have banged women who are 3 weeks away from getting married, and will be making sacred promises to a man who will respect and love them 'til death.

I have banged women who cry for a man to truly love, but settle for a fuck while Mr. Right comes along.

I have banged daughters on the phone with their mothers, pretending to be 'doing laundry'.

I have banged blondes, latinas, white girls, sistas, brazilian, canadians.....all say the same thing: "I've never met anyone like you"

I have banged 3 virgins in my life, I wish I had more.....

I have banged bridesmaids, but never the bride....I have my limits you know.

I have banged 2 lady-cops, and 3 hardcore gangsta bitches strapped with 9mm weapons...I'll bang 'em all.

So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!

Mixx

Mixx, this needs to be put to music.

[Timoteo]

If I feel like I can fuck that first night, I go for it. I'm never thinking about what the relationship "could" be. If I like a chick and want to keep seeing her, I do so. Unless a chick is an obvious party girl that fucks indiscriminantly, we need to get out of the mindset that first date fucks mean a chick isn't relationship worthy. Women are prone to adhering to those kinds of rules - men shouldn't be. I think if you're ultimately compatible for a LTR, when you fucked is irrelevant.

OGNorCal's second date brought to mind one of my favorite songs...Ready For The World's "Digital Display" (..."Excuse me if I start to play with your digital display..."). I've NEVER not fucked a chick that allowed my hands to wander over her digits like she allowed you. The kissing, licking, sucking, nibbling combined with a straight-up grope-a-thon has always resulted in me burying my dick in something warm and wet. Chicks that aren't trying to go that far will usually guide your hands off of the assets. Even if they let you up into the crib, they'll have some of those self-imposed guidelines in place to prevent fucking (making out sitting up, but not lying down. One foot on the floor, or not letting you put your hands UNDER their top, etc.). That she let you do all that, then cut you off seems to me like she was playing games with you for some reason.

[MiXX]

(10-03-2011 11:34 PM)soup Wrote:  

(02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

@oldnemesis - the problem is that I have banged too many women in my life from all walks of life, races, financial means, looks, motives etc.

I have banged girls that swear they are die-hard religious "good girls" looking to become future nuns, (one even had a screenshot of Jesu Christ on her cell phone) immediately start praying after sex - begging for the lords forgiveness.

I have banged women who say "oh my god, I have never cheated on my husband before" right after having sex with me.

I have banged women in private jets that net more than $100M, to banging women that live in slums and ghettos - waiting for prince charming to save them from a life of struggle and hardship.

I have banged women who have elusive PHD's and keynote speakers at exclusive high society events, to banging women with only a GED and dreams.

I have banged my sexy 5th grade school teacher at a school reunion party that gave me hard-ons during math class. ** How many can say that?

I have banged gold-diggers and cave divers, to beauty pageant queens and ugly Bettys in a time of need.

I have banged women from as far south as Argentina, to as far east as Slovenia: They all favor doggie style over any position.

I have banged women who tell me they are strict lesbians and I am their first dick, to banging mother and daughter combinations.

I have banged women whose husbands have paid me to watch me fuck their wives at fetish parties. I once even banged two Colombiana twins backstage of a reggeaton concert in Medellin.

I have banged women who leave 100 dollar bills on my nightstand (without me asking for it) to women who have slashed the tires of my car and broke my windows.

I have banged women who have carried my seed and are in complete ecstasy at the thought of being the mother of my child, to later on miscarriage and cry until the sun goes down.

I have banged college girls and cougars alike, I even banged my mothers best girlfriend when I was 15. ** She still has not forgiven me for that

I have banged a corporate executive inside the bathroom of her office, and even banged a woman that worked at a spa in the middle of a jungle; right after she gave my girl a massage and she fell asleep.

I have banged good girls in Colombia to bad girls in New York, to bangin' Kim Kardashian look-a-like pros in Costa Rica.

I have banged women on the phone with their boyfriends; telling him how much she loves him while I'm pounding her.

I have banged women who are 3 weeks away from getting married, and will be making sacred promises to a man who will respect and love them 'til death.

I have banged women who cry for a man to truly love, but settle for a fuck while Mr. Right comes along.

I have banged daughters on the phone with their mothers, pretending to be 'doing laundry'.

I have banged blondes, latinas, white girls, sistas, brazilian, canadians.....all say the same thing: "I've never met anyone like you"

I have banged 3 virgins in my life, I wish I had more.....

I have banged bridesmaids, but never the bride....I have my limits you know.

I have banged 2 lady-cops, and 3 hardcore gangsta bitches strapped with 9mm weapons...I'll bang 'em all.

So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!

Mixx

Mixx, this needs to be put to music.

I just sent a copy to Diddy, 'lil Wayne and Kanye....I'll let you know what they say.

Mixx

[velkrum]

(07-10-2010 08:03 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

What a girl does on one night with you does not make or break her value as a girlfriend. A whore that fucks you on the eighth date is still a whore.

^^ Most significant logic in this entire thread

[Timoteo]

(02-13-2011 04:35 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

If someone comes up with a believable story about banging a bride, I swear that I''ll never think of an LTR for as long as I live

Seriously though, to paraphrase Mixx: Women are impulsive whores that can't be trusted.

I get that. And I'm pretty much with that perspective.

I do think that this perspective serves a certain practical function for a man, and it lies somewhere in-between the truth and something else.

More accurately, I think that women have to be properly managed in a relationship, and most guys have no idea how to do this. Or they don't want to do this. I don't, except for the most worthwhile of women. Its just too much work. And in today's age, its not easy.

Fail to properly manage her feelings toward you as well as her behavior, not unlike an impulsive emotional child, and your getting cheated on or otherwise fucked over down the road. As a relationship ages, I think that it gets harder as the spark tends to fade. Traditional values are what used to keep women in relationships after the spark naturally faded with time. Now, a woman with such values is difficult to find.

Most guys think that women have the same sense of loyalty, honor, and reason that the best of men can have. It doesn't exist with most women. Guys get lazy or too trusting in a woman's character, and BAM...she's fucking Mixx on her lunch break.

A man can have an LTR, but he has to be realistic about the reality of the situation. Women will justify their emotions and their impulses with the most ridiculous BS possible. To them, their emotion (vagina tingle) is their reality and their truth, for the most part.

If you can manage such a person, who doesn't embody what we as men consider "good character", then an LTR can be fun for a while. Just don't get caught by knocking her up. Guys who master the LTR "personality management" game, and come to happy terms with it, we refer to as the 50% of husbands and fathers that aren't divorced.

"Most guys think that women have the same sense of loyalty, honor, and reason that the best of men can have. It doesn't exist with most women."

That's real talk. I say this EXACT thing to my boys. Women are invested in their own happiness only, and are generally oblivious to the feelings of those around them, especially men. We exist to make THEM happy, not the other way around. Once you stop making them happy, you're dismissed.

[portofmanteau]

(06-08-2010 04:33 PM)toddn Wrote:  

No one gives a shit about your problems, faggot.

Poetry.

Key points reinforcing the absolute lack of empathy:

Framed as a negative - the first words are "no one"
Well-timed use of idiom indicating native-level fluency - easy understanding of the original post, validating its dismissal
Impersonal subject indicates that this sentiment would naturally be shared by any other reader
"your problems" - curt summary of the post, cutting through the original tone of inquiry and reframing it as mere complaint
"faggot" - an unambiguous, direct insult, just for good measure

[Scarlet_Terror]

Out of my dozens of bangs (lost my v card late), only 4 came from first night lays. I've found there's no need for an artificial timeline, especially if you've got plenty of girls lined up. I usually call the ball at date 5-6. People who DQ after date two are nutty unless you're gaming ONLY sluts.