[MrLemon]

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess. Timeframe...10-20 years.

Sure, other religions too, but honestly the Mormons are the only ones with the money, the muscle, and the willpower to present themselves as an alternative to the bad times and chaos likely to erupt in next decades.

This also recognizes that the US has a real deep streak of religious nuttiness.

Maybe in concert with a military takeover. World war III is a possible route but it's hard to see that kind of war breaking out, with drones and nuclear weapons around. So the religious option still seems most likely.

[Tuthmosis]

[thegmanifesto]

(03-10-2013 02:14 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess. Timeframe...10-20 years.

No shot.

Next theory?

[MrLemon]

(03-10-2013 02:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 02:14 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess. Timeframe...10-20 years.

No shot.

Next theory?

LOL. Oh man.

OK I'll put my foil hat back on and try again.

[renotime]

No.

But if LDS were a publicly traded company I would put a lot of money into them.

Those Jesus freaks are rumored to be making like 5 billion a year or some nonsense.

[PrimeTime32]

yea, those Mormons don't play. they are about that paper but taking over the country in the next 12 years i believe that is a stretch due to the fact that more and more people don't believe there is a GOD.

[Samseau]

According to Wikipedia there aren't even more than 7 million Mormons in the USA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons

And they are being generous. How many devout Mormons are there? 2 million, tops? These people mean nothing.

And if anything, it will be feminism that corrupts all the Mormon daughters and turns them into sluts.

[_GQ_]

No

/thread

[Lemmo]

They'll continue to outperform other groups in most ways but even with their large families I can't see them having the numbers to "take over" in 12 years. I expect they will quickly displace other whites in the low population states surrounding Utah.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-10-2013 03:29 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 02:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 02:14 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess. Timeframe...10-20 years.

No shot.

Next theory?

LOL. Oh man.

OK I'll put my foil hat back on and try again.

Come on.

They have been around since the 1820's and all they have control of is the absolute sh*ttiest state in America.

And all of a sudden you expect them to "take over" in the next 10-20 years.

Yeah, I would bet against.

[MrLemon]

Well, ok I stand alone.

I was just thinking, well hey, they do own a state. They almost got the Presidency. How long before there are armies of them in white shirts and black ties, riding their 10-speeds in formation to crush the Gay rebellion.

[j r]

It would help if you defined what exactly you mean when you say "take over."

[Sherman]

Over the long term, conservatism in general will dominate (not just the Mormons) for the simple reason that conservatives produce more children then liberals. There was an article on this in "Foreign Affairs" a while ago.

[NFallin]

Growing up in the mormon church I saw two kinds of people. People that were born into the faith, and those who joined later on in their lives because something was lacking.

The attrition rate is heavy for both groups. If you're born into it you eventually realize you can't drink, can't smoke, can't fuck, can't party, can't swear, can't sleep in on sunday, can't avoid missions, can't think for yourself, can't have freedom, can't stay single, unless you lie.

If you've joined later on in life to fill a void, you realize that there is still an empty hole in your life and you stop going unless you're a degenerate parasite feeding off the church, or you really buy into the faith.

It's a religion based on blue pill rule control, with red pill governance. Not much is appealing other than the feeling of community and belonging.

I think ordinary people would see too many negatives in joining this religion for it to truly ever take over.

[kbell]

I would think Islam has more of a chance. Or possibly Mexicans may get stick of liberal values which are anti-family and they may vote conservative than.

[germanico]

(03-10-2013 02:14 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess.

What mess? the US public likes idiotic feminism. Guys like to surf reddit and masturbate to cam whores while their ass-pegging whale wives parade their lard around protesting more rights for transgender queers or some other inane shit.

Thats reality. We live in the matrix. We dodge bullets.

[Thomas the Rhymer]

(03-10-2013 11:18 PM)kbell Wrote:  

I would think Islam has more of a chance.

From what I've read, historically, any religion that demands fanatical violence is a religion that is sputtering on its last legs.

The Roman Catholic crusades were followed by schisms, protestantism, reformations.

The Buddhist rebellions in Afghanistan against their Muslim overlords only ended up destroying Buddhism in the region.

When religions are desperate to tell people to die for their faith, it is a sign not of strength, but of weakness. A strong religion doesn't need to push its followers to that sort of extreme.

Islam is long past its glorious peak (when it was a progressive and tolerant religion that promoted science, technology, trade and interracial dating) and I predict a slow, gradual decline but with a corresponding rise in extreme fanatical acts as a smaller and smaller group of adherents is pushed to further extremes of behaviour in desperate attempts to convince themselves that their religion still has something valid to say.

[Vicious]

I saw that Mormon cult documentary where all the daughters where intermarried with other "members" against their will. Police officer from another town tried to escort one of the women from their home but was forced off the road by local sheriffs who were also cult members. Never thought I'd see that kind of Jim Jones shit in the US in modern days.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-11-2013 01:25 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 02:14 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'm increasingly convinced that, as idiot feminism continues to crash our society, the US public will turn to the Mormon church as a way of pulling us out of the mess.

What mess? the US public likes idiotic feminism. Guys like to surf reddit and masturbate to cam whores while their ass-pegging whale wives parade their lard around protesting more rights for transgender queers or some other inane shit.

Thats reality. We live in the matrix. We dodge bullets.

I remember reading somewhere that Utah was the largest consumer of P0rn in America.

[kosko]

(03-10-2013 06:48 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

According to Wikipedia there aren't even more than 7 million Mormons in the USA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons

And they are being generous. How many devout Mormons are there? 2 million, tops? These people mean nothing.

And if anything, it will be feminism that corrupts all the Mormon daughters and turns them into sluts.

Small number's does not mean all that much. Jewish-Israeli-Americans have a iron clad grasp on influence and power in America and they barley measure over 5 million. It does not matter the size of the group but the strategic power in which they possesses. Mormons have largely been recruited for intelligence. Their are large Morman factions within the CIA and FBI, long traditions that go back into the 50's. Plus it does not help that it is actually in Morman doctrine to one day "extract revenge" on the USA for them killing Joseph Smith. Mormons hold power in intelligence do to their strait edge lifestyles. They don't smoke or drink and they for the most part are highly educated and learn a second language by default with connects worldwide due to their missionary work requirements. How else could you promise your spies could not get distracted while running covert mission in the FSU and South East Asia?

A small interest group will indeed try to take power in the next 25 years. I have no idea whom it will be, but it will happen as things sort or getting hectic in the States behind the scenes. Lets not forget that the 10 years Post-JFK was largely a Coup in which small factions took over the USA Government and crushed dissidents. Many people believe that the new powerful Israel-American block actually took power during this time because JFK was actively seeking disarmament of America and nations as a whole. He also opposed Israel nuclear development program, specifically Dimona which was at this time just coming on-line with the ability to development weapons-grade nuclear material. JFK viewed this as a mess to USA Mid-East policy and stability as whole and wanted it stopped. Israel viewed this shift in American policy seriously and in Tel Aviv they viewed is definitively as as a direct threat to the nation's survival. Dude got his head blasted, his brother got blasted, and the USS Liberty got blasted. America post that period was never the same, the Coup was complete. Clear as day links towards mafia figures and MOSSAD and JFK can be found but we're never perused for good reasons. Same with the USS Liberty in which MOSSAD and the Israel Government admitted to doing it and never faced any consequences. Any high level administrator whom tries to stir that hornets nest will end up the same way JFK did, and Every USA President knows this and understands if you cross Tel Aviv you'll end up in a casket. <--- That is what power in small numbers looks like.

That is just one example of how small groups can greatly take hold and take influence and power. Will the Mormons take over? I have no idea, and they aren't the only groups whom would look to take control as radical Socialist factions exist behind the scenes also. Its just the Mormon case seems more plausible because Religion holds them together for a common purpose and goal. You never need power in numbers as Coup's are largely completed off pure luck and opportunity versus actual strength in size - a fracturing force will always be in the minority to the group in power.

[Kentucky]

(03-11-2013 09:45 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 06:48 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

According to Wikipedia there aren't even more than 7 million Mormons in the USA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons

And they are being generous. How many devout Mormons are there? 2 million, tops? These people mean nothing.

And if anything, it will be feminism that corrupts all the Mormon daughters and turns them into sluts.

Small number's does not mean all that much. Jewish-Israeli-Americans have a iron clad grasp on influence and power in America and they barley measure over 5 million. It does not matter the size of the group but the strategic power in which they possesses. Mormons have largely been recruited for intelligence. Their are large Morman factions within the CIA and FBI, long traditions that go back into the 50's. Plus it does not help that it is actually in Morman doctrine to one day "extract revenge" on the USA for them killing Joseph Smith. Mormons hold power in intelligence do to their strait edge lifestyles. They don't smoke or drink and they for the most part are highly educated and learn a second language by default with connects worldwide due to their missionary work requirements. How else could you promise your spies could not get distracted while running covert mission in the FSU and South East Asia?

A small interest group will indeed try to take power in the next 25 years. I have no idea whom it will be, but it will happen as things sort or getting hectic in the States behind the scenes. Lets not forget that the 10 years Post-JFK was largely a Coup in which small factions took over the USA Government and crushed dissidents. Many people believe that the new powerful Israel-American block actually took power during this time because JFK was actively seeking disarmament of America and nations as a whole. He also opposed Israel nuclear development program, specifically Dimona which was at this time just coming on-line with the ability to development weapons-grade nuclear material. JFK viewed this as a mess to USA Mid-East policy and stability as whole and wanted it stopped. Israel viewed this shift in American policy seriously and in Tel Aviv they viewed is definitively as as a direct threat to the nation's survival. Dude got his head blasted, his brother got blasted, and the USS Liberty got blasted. America post that period was never the same, the Coup was complete. Clear as day links towards mafia figures and MOSSAD and JFK can be found but we're never perused for good reasons. Same with the USS Liberty in which MOSSAD and the Israel Government admitted to doing it and never faced any consequences. Any high level administrator whom tries to stir that hornets nest will end up the same way JFK did, and Every USA President knows this and understands if you cross Tel Aviv you'll end up in a casket. <--- That is what power in small numbers looks like.

That is just one example of how small groups can greatly take hold and take influence and power. Will the Mormons take over? I have no idea, and they aren't the only groups whom would look to take control as radical Socialist factions exist behind the scenes also. Its just the Mormon case seems more plausible because Religion holds them together for a common purpose and goal. You never need power in numbers as Coup's are largely completed off pure luck and opportunity versus actual strength in size - a fracturing force will always be in the minority to the group in power.

Lol

So the Jews killed JFK because he opposed the nuclear programme

Do you have any proof of this?

[kosko]

(03-11-2013 09:51 AM)Kentucky Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 09:45 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 06:48 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

According to Wikipedia there aren't even more than 7 million Mormons in the USA...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons

And they are being generous. How many devout Mormons are there? 2 million, tops? These people mean nothing.

And if anything, it will be feminism that corrupts all the Mormon daughters and turns them into sluts.

Small number's does not mean all that much. Jewish-Israeli-Americans have a iron clad grasp on influence and power in America and they barley measure over 5 million. It does not matter the size of the group but the strategic power in which they possesses. Mormons have largely been recruited for intelligence. Their are large Morman factions within the CIA and FBI, long traditions that go back into the 50's. Plus it does not help that it is actually in Morman doctrine to one day "extract revenge" on the USA for them killing Joseph Smith. Mormons hold power in intelligence do to their strait edge lifestyles. They don't smoke or drink and they for the most part are highly educated and learn a second language by default with connects worldwide due to their missionary work requirements. How else could you promise your spies could not get distracted while running covert mission in the FSU and South East Asia?

A small interest group will indeed try to take power in the next 25 years. I have no idea whom it will be, but it will happen as things sort or getting hectic in the States behind the scenes. Lets not forget that the 10 years Post-JFK was largely a Coup in which small factions took over the USA Government and crushed dissidents. Many people believe that the new powerful Israel-American block actually took power during this time because JFK was actively seeking disarmament of America and nations as a whole. He also opposed Israel nuclear development program, specifically Dimona which was at this time just coming on-line with the ability to development weapons-grade nuclear material. JFK viewed this as a mess to USA Mid-East policy and stability as whole and wanted it stopped. Israel viewed this shift in American policy seriously and in Tel Aviv they viewed is definitively as as a direct threat to the nation's survival. Dude got his head blasted, his brother got blasted, and the USS Liberty got blasted. America post that period was never the same, the Coup was complete. Clear as day links towards mafia figures and MOSSAD and JFK can be found but we're never perused for good reasons. Same with the USS Liberty in which MOSSAD and the Israel Government admitted to doing it and never faced any consequences. Any high level administrator whom tries to stir that hornets nest will end up the same way JFK did, and Every USA President knows this and understands if you cross Tel Aviv you'll end up in a casket. <--- That is what power in small numbers looks like.

That is just one example of how small groups can greatly take hold and take influence and power. Will the Mormons take over? I have no idea, and they aren't the only groups whom would look to take control as radical Socialist factions exist behind the scenes also. Its just the Mormon case seems more plausible because Religion holds them together for a common purpose and goal. You never need power in numbers as Coup's are largely completed off pure luck and opportunity versus actual strength in size - a fracturing force will always be in the minority to the group in power.

Lol

So the Israel Government/MOSSAD killed JFK because he opposed the nuclear programme

Do you have any proof of this?

I fixed it for you.

Your Deli owner in Brooklyn didn't kill JFK. You have to make that clear because sometimes Jewish people get overly defensive, this is not saying citizens or people of that religion or heritage did anything.. because they didn't, but radical factions did.

Here are just some small facts:

* That JFK was engaged in a bitter secret conflict with Israel over U.S. East policy and that Israel's prime minister resigned in disgust, saying JFK's stance threatened Israel's very survival?

- Esienhower was not keen on the Dimona project. For people whom unfamiliar with this it was at the heights of the Arab-Israel conflicts and still tense Cold War that Israel decided to persue a Nuclear Weapons program, a program to this day this still deny despite photographic evidence and proof coming via former Israeli Nuclear technecian now political prisoner Mordechai Vanunu

* That JFK's successor, Lyndon Johnson, immediately reversed America's policy toward Israel?
- Lyndon Johnson was a stooge and him and Nixon could easily of been the two worst Presidents in USA history as they both largely sold the USA out for a bag of nickels. LBJ basically came in and sold out all the real progressive American progress made under Eisenhower and JFK plus LBJ is the one whom legislated the largest expansion of Government outside of wartime and legislated what would become institutional feminism and the downfall of Black America.

* That the top Mafia figures often alleged to be behind the JFK assassination were only front men for Meyer Lansky?
-Lansky was a Russian Mob Boss and the links to JFKs killing and Mafia elements is clear as day and heavily documented if you do your own reserach. Lansky was also a agent for MOSSAD intelligence and used that over to extort and get favourable deals wherever he went.

* That the CIA's liaison to the Mossad, James Angleton, was a prime mover behind the cover-up of the JFK assassination?

- Angleton's fingers we're all over the JFK assassination plot from start to finish.


Look basically the Oswald official story has been debunked a million times. Everything from the rifle to the marksmanship has been debunked plus the fact that nothing in the story really matched up, or the fact that 15 years later Congress officially deemed both JFK and MLKs killings as shady and dubious.

You look back to that point in time in American history when America was on the brink of revolution and Constitutional reform. You look back and think of how things might have changed and what Country you would be living in today. You think back to that time of chaos and how it was advantages for radical factions to be able to use that chaos to take hold of power behind the scenes. I am not telling you what to believe, that is your own call I am just given that as a example of how it actually happens. You can't sit there and deny the incredible influence and power the Israeli Government holds over the USA Government. Literally to the point of having you by the balls, this is a nation that is no bigger then New Jersey and depends on USA Aid and handouts and yet they are able to run such overreaching influence and control.

Think.

[Kentucky]

I see no credible proof that you have presented that Mossad murdered JFK.

Meyer Lansky was not Russian Mafia, he was born in Russia but was part of US Jewish mafia of Polish Jewish parents born in Grodno

What you are saying is absurd and has no basis in fact

[Vicious]

Kentucky meet kosko. The RVF resident conspiracy theorist. Just nod your head and smile.

[Samseau]

Although I remain skeptical of who killed JFK and why, it is true that small groups in America, such as the Jews, can hold disproportionate power relative to their size.

But the difference between the Jews and Mormons is one of nearly 4000 years. Jews have been accumulating their wealth for a very long time. Likewise I expect it to be another 200-400 years before the Mormons become a powerhouse like the Jews, not 20-40 years.