[xsplat]

I often read comments that imply that blue pill reality still holds true outside of the US, or with virgins.

Guys who complain about American Women usually have yet to live in other countries where they would also learn the deficits of the women. Yes, there are some important cultural differences, but try it and see for yourself. Women everywhere are not to be trusted - and that goes for the virgins too.

[Hannibal]

This is somewhat similar to this thread.

And what I said in there still applies to how I feel about red pill in general. I'll cut it down somewhat.

(09-22-2012 06:25 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

If you're getting your negativity from Roissy or the manosphere, then I suggest you stop reading them for a couple weeks and see where your attitude goes. I've had to take a break from them every once in a while because reading all those blogs and shit is too much for me to handle and it doesn't actively help me get laid like approaching does.

I used to be really cynical and negative about women. Since I'm in Europe now, my attitude has gotten much better. The problem in America is not the women, it's the men. The men are weak, they're pussified, and the whole feminist culture has really gotten out of control. A lot of my hatred for women is really based in a hatred for the men that let them get away with that shit. You can't hate your neighbors dog for shitting on your lawn, you should hate your neighbor for not keeping the dog tied up in his yard.

....

As far as women are concerned, there are a few good women out there, but it's really hard to find ones that haven't been corrupted to at least some degree. Pop music, romantic comedies, and the entire feminist culture really ruins a lot of otherwise good people, men and women alike. Thanks to that horseshit, I have a harder time relating with my peers and it gets increasingly lonely back home.

[snoop]

(02-28-2013 09:52 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Hello all,

I was wondering, for those who have been "red pill" living for a bit, do you still find a bit of bitterness from learning the true nature of women? Do you ever feel like just living single the rest of your days?

For me, I like the idea of living alone and never having to deal with crazy women.

Thoughts?

What is the "true nature"?

[Mr.Barbarian]

I feel mild bitterness only for not having been clued in earlier, for how behind in the game I sometimes feel, and for how many opportunities and gifts I squandered earlier in life out of naivete.

But I try not to allow that feeling to fester. There's nothing to do but to continue struggling and striving. I forget about it and go lift and train.

[Flavius]

The bitterness faded pretty quickly. But I definitely feel pretty jaded at times. On one hand, when you're gaming her, you're essentially getting her to fill your need for sex by filling her needs, even if she doesn't realize she needs you to lead her. But you really can't connect with a woman the way we were all told growing up we were supposed to. They don't think the same. They don't really understand men's needs, nor do they appreciate an sacrifices men in their life make. (Go read Rational Male if you don't follow that). So it feels kind of hollow at times, like learning that Santa's not real when you're a kid. It's only been a couple of years since I opened my eyes, so maybe even that will pass after a few more years.

[Lemmo]

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:52 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Hello all,

I was wondering, for those who have been "red pill" living for a bit, do you still find a bit of bitterness from learning the true nature of women? Do you ever feel like just living single the rest of your days?

For me, I like the idea of living alone and never having to deal with crazy women.

Thoughts?

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

[rmo]

(02-28-2013 07:18 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

For any atheists out there...

It is funny that giving up your 'belief' in women and questioning all you have being taught. Is somehow more of a mind fuck than giving up your belief in God.

That is because over the past 100 years - the west has tried to replace the religion of God with the religion of love.

Next time you see a preise tell him you are an atheist. I guarantee he won't give a shit. But tell him you don't believe in romantic love either and you may as well be speaking in tongues.

I came to the conclusion that the closest thing to describe what I believe in part was epistemological agnosticism, I was raised without Christmas and studied many ancient religions when I was a young kid so I have yet to be convinced of divinity even if religion had its place in history.

An interesting red pill intro I had got from my research was the role of women in all culutures and the nature of marriage. I never understood why marriage was a property transaction till I learned game.

The thing is most atheists who weren't converted don't find either that big of a mindfuck, it's just unfortunate that even if you wanted to you can't treat women like rational beings.

[Grit]

(02-28-2013 07:18 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

For any atheists out there...

It is funny that giving up your 'belief' in women and questioning all you have being taught. Is somehow more of a mind fuck than giving up your belief in God.

That is because over the past 100 years - the west has tried to replace the religion of God with the religion of love.

Next time you see a preise tell him you are an atheist. I guarantee he won't give a shit. But tell him you don't believe in romantic love either and you may as well be speaking in tongues.

That is a real mindfuck there. Imagine confessing to a priest how you have lost faith in God. He would pity you.

Then imagine confessing that you lost your faith in equality. Women will never succeed in the male realm. Women are inferior. He would probably be horrified and want to whip up a witch trial right then and there. Heresy!

[funkyzeit]

Not really bitter, just angry at myself for being naive. I also get disappointed when I see the same behavioral patterns all women have on a girl I considered "special".

It is kinda soul crushing at times because you see that they all respond to same stuff and they all have more or less the same triggers so you realize that there will probably never be a "special one". However, that isn't the reason for treating them all like shit (unless they deserve it by being bitches or fat). The hot and feminine ones who please your dick deserve the masculine presence in their lives provided by you.

[Marcellus]

Yes, bitter is the right word. If you see the kind of man woman want and you know you can never grow in this kind of man because you just missed the boat. I'm almost thirty, and I still dream about these 18y/old cuties with tight body.

I sometimes wished I would have been pussy-whipped. If I would have found a girl in my late teens like everybody else and still believe in trust and love. I wouldn't be so jealous of the alpha-males who seem to get all the girls. When you see the social reality just as it is, it's painly cruel.

But I just have to look at my father. My father is very dominant and alpha, and he has been frustrated all his life, on everything and everybody. Now, after wolfing that red pill though my throat I see the man has been suffering from his 17th birthday till now; while my mom probably rode the cock carousel while he was out working; nobody respected him and still he worked his ass off. He was the ultimate provider and my mother did a good job in recognizing this kind of sense of honor and loyalty in his family in him. They are still happily married.

[RouteBackwards]

When I first learned about the true nature of women, I was bitter and to even some degree a misogynist. I think a lot of gentlemen of the game become this way when they first learn that everything they believed and were taught through school and media is no longer true.

The hardest thing that I still struggle with is understanding that women are natural followers and it is abnormal for them to shift into the role of strong leaders. I tried so hard to believe women could be leaders, and I still meet women who believe this (especially in College/University), but sadly they're only as strong as their emotions are.

A part of me still wants to believe in the equality of man and women in the feminist sense, but it never adds up after learning red-pill shit, no matter how pretty feminists package it.

[Kwisatz]

Why do you believe that there is any reason you cannot be the kind of man women want? You did not miss the boat, you’ve just delayed getting on. START NOW!

(03-04-2013 06:43 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

Yes, bitter is the right word. If you see the kind of man woman want and you know you can never grow in this kind of man because you just missed the boat. I'm almost thirty, and I still dream about these 18y/old cuties with tight body.

[Giovonny]

(03-04-2013 06:43 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

I'm almost thirty, and I still dream about these 18y/old cuties with tight body.

Dude, you are not even 30!!!

Trust me, YOU CAN BANG 18 YEAR OLDS!

I just banged a 19yo on Saturday night. I am 37.

Young girls like older guys. Many have an "older guy" fetish, some have daddy issues, some want to try it, at least once. They will give you a chance if you can give them a fresh, exciting, interesting experience.

(03-04-2013 06:43 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

When you see the social reality just as it is, it's painly cruel.

It depends how you look at it.

Attractive, alpha men get all the p*ssy. Cowards, betas, and dorks have to fight for scraps.

I don't see cruelty. I see opportunity.

If you can developed you game and learn how to present yourself in an attractive way, you will be rewarded with a healthy sex life.

To me, nature is a beautiful thing. It rewards those who develop social skills.

You are seeing the world thru "beta eyes". Try to envision the world thru the eyes of an alpha. Its a celebration of beautiful women here to please us. They pretend to be bitches just to scare aware the geeks. The really want to be confronted and fucked by a strong man.

[Captain Ahab]

(03-04-2013 05:43 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 06:43 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

I'm almost thirty, and I still dream about these 18y/old cuties with tight body.

Dude, you are not even 30!!!

Trust me, YOU CAN BANG 18 YEAR OLDS!

I just banged a 19yo on Saturday night. I am 37.

Young girls like older guys. Many have an "older guy" fetish, some have daddy issues, some want to try it, at least once. They will give you a chance if you can give them a fresh, exciting, interesting experience.

(03-04-2013 06:43 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

When you see the social reality just as it is, it's painly cruel.

It depends how you look at it.

Attractive, alpha men get all the p*ssy. Cowards, betas, and dorks have to fight for scraps.

I don't see cruelty. I see opportunity.

If you can developed you game and learn how to present yourself in an attractive way, you will be rewarded with a healthy sex life.

To me, nature is a beautiful thing. It rewards those who develop social skills.

Excellent.


I think bitterness is a choice. There are plenty of people who went through far worse than most guys on this forum and smile everyday.

I'll never forget the revelation I got when this old, black as all hell, teeth fucked up and everything, woman was holding some newspapers while standing in the middle of the median as I rolled up to the stop light.

I cringed at the thought of her accosting me trying to sell me a paper. I was prepared to yell no. It was written on my face.

She looked at me and demanded that I "smile," in her own words.

Smile.

The simple choice to act positive rather than negative. This woman had been standing in the sun all day selling papers that nobody wanted (Tampa Bay Times. Nobody gives a shit about that fucking paper). And here I was in my air conditioned car on my way home on my day off with money in the bank, my good looks, my youth, my intelligence, my future ahead of me...

And I'm the one with the sad face.

Yeah, I had to wake up.

I am not saying your emotions aren't real, but damn, keep a perspective.

You can be thankful that you know the truth now and can live the rest of your life with a revelation or you can be mad about the past which you have no control over.

It is the past.

It is odd how so many men are insecure that they are balding. Maybe they should be thankful that they have a head on their shoulders to begin with.

Here is my player tip of the week: Learn how to practice gratitude.

[snoop]

(03-01-2013 04:56 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:52 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Hello all,

I was wondering, for those who have been "red pill" living for a bit, do you still find a bit of bitterness from learning the true nature of women? Do you ever feel like just living single the rest of your days?

For me, I like the idea of living alone and never having to deal with crazy women.

Thoughts?

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

What makes that true of all women?

[Lemmo]

(03-04-2013 06:34 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 04:56 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:52 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Hello all,

I was wondering, for those who have been "red pill" living for a bit, do you still find a bit of bitterness from learning the true nature of women? Do you ever feel like just living single the rest of your days?

For me, I like the idea of living alone and never having to deal with crazy women.

Thoughts?

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

What makes that true of all women?

Evolution. Biology.

[snoop]

(03-04-2013 07:28 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 06:34 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 04:56 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:52 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Hello all,

I was wondering, for those who have been "red pill" living for a bit, do you still find a bit of bitterness from learning the true nature of women? Do you ever feel like just living single the rest of your days?

For me, I like the idea of living alone and never having to deal with crazy women.

Thoughts?

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

What makes that true of all women?

Evolution. Biology.

Any data or empirical evidence?

[Lemmo]

(03-04-2013 07:47 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 07:28 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 06:34 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 04:56 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

What makes that true of all women?

Evolution. Biology.

Any data or empirical evidence?

yeah, but it is a bit like asking for data on the sky being blue. I'm not writing a paper so I'm not going to assemble a bibliography. Any book on sexual evolution should answer your questions regarding the first part. In re to physical and mental inferiority I refer you to the history of human civilization.

[BadWolf]

Captain Ahab is right, gratitude is an awesome way to bring more into your life... to many red pillers scumb to their bitterness and focus on it. MGTOW for example is that movement. I have a friend who does nothing but complain complain complain.. yes the world is not as we are told to believe but you have to get over it and shape it to your liking. Gratitude, saying thank you, helping others and giving from the heart are all too often overlooked.

I'll make a quick example, sometimes I give away my stuff to people I like. I gave a favorite toy away quite recently to a 6ft 3 giant that expressed some interest in it. Tears welled up in his eyes and he gave me a big hug... I didn't pay much for it but he said it had been a long time since anyone had given him anything or been so nice to him... He had lent me some stuff and helped me with some trivial things earlier this year... it was just my way of saying thanks. Similarly, I found something that my boss and I both share an interest in and bought it for him, got a big thank you note and wanted me to come stay at his place when I'm in town next... wasn't looking for anything in return... anyway didn't mean to get de-railed here but gratitude is an excellent way of showing appreciation...red pillers get so involved in the negative, they forget to boost the positive stuff in their lives.

Quote:

Young girls like older guys. Many have an "older guy" fetish, some have daddy issues, some want to try it, at least once. They will give you a chance if you can give them a fresh, exciting, interesting experience.

Concur. Am 33 now and have never had a woman over 24.

Wife is currently 23.

[Samseau]

(03-04-2013 07:47 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 07:28 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 06:34 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 04:56 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 09:02 AM)snoop Wrote:  

What is the "true nature"?

Narcissism/sociopathy + physical and mental inferiority

What makes that true of all women?

Evolution. Biology.

Any data or empirical evidence?

http://www.returnofkings.com/5855/game-d...ed-science

[kazz]

All human beings are capable of Narcissism/sociopathy. While peer reviewed scientific data is not perfect its one of the best things we have. Albert Einstein saw things in others studies that they didnt, even he did not come up with his most amazing ideas alone.

[Samseau]

(03-05-2013 12:57 AM)kazz Wrote:  

All human beings are capable of Narcissism/sociopathy. While peer reviewed scientific data is not perfect its one of the best things we have. Albert Einstein saw things in others studies that they didnt, even he did not come up with his most amazing ideas alone.

All of Einstein's theories were developed before they were proved in a "peer review study".

I find that most men are incapable of critically thinking about science.