[Greek kamaki]

Germans like order everywhere.A good thing most of the time.Only in some cases they lack the relative flexibility to identify your needs.
Let's compare Greece and Germany in basic stuff:
1.Public transportation.Better in Germany.
2.Food.Better in Greece.
3.Coffee.A lot stronger in Greece.
4.Weather.Much better in Greece.No comparison.In Germany you freeze.
5.Mobile phones, internet.Better in Greece.You can always buy internet cards everytime of day and night.
6.Shop opening hours.A lot longer in Greece.You cannot find an open store in Germany after some hour.A lot of shops open late in the morning and many get closed in noon this is unheard of in Greece.
7.Order.A lot better in Germany.Greeks are constant improvizers.

8.Dogs rights.A lot more in Germany.
9.Disabled persons rights.Way more in Germany.
10.Elderly rights.A lot more in Germany.
11.Hot women.A lot more in Greece.Actually in Germany your dick will freeze at the common sights.Too many unattractive people.
12.Metro.Draw.Quality of people in metro slightly better in Greece.
13.Manners.Better in Germany.People really polite speak always in plural and are generally right.
14.Speed in transactions.Germans are faster but have way too much burocracy.

15.Cars.Better in Germany.It used to be better in Greece before the crisis.
16.Small towns.Way better in Germany.
17.Nature.Better in Greece except some certain places in Germany.
18.Rubbish.Much better situation in Germany.In Greece you see rubbish everywhere.
19.Cleanliness.Germany is much cleaner (shops, streets,people,everything)
20.Infrastructure. Better in Germany.They have sturdy buildings and the newest equipment.

21.People rights.In Germany you have more rights because everyone respects the law.
22.Beer.Way better in Germany.
23.Wine.Better in Greece.
24.Shitting.Better in Germany.You can always find a decent toilet to shit which is not the case in Greece where noone wants you to shit in his establishment.

In general Germany is good if you like cleanliness, order, rights for all, fairness, beer,blunt food, weak coffee (if you are a beer person),good shitting and polite people.

[Marvin]

Well, good shitting isn't bad, but all that cleanlinness and order combined with the lack of hot chicks makes Deutschland extremely boring to live. Besides, most of big cities were destroyed during WWII and lost their charm. However, I'd like to visit some small towns for a short term.

[Greek kamaki]

Small towns look better than bigger ones.They have preserved old architecture and have much less foreigners.In small towns you live the original German experience.And people there are way nicer.Some funny accents sometimes but it is good.

Sometimes you see excellent girls samples in Germany like flowers randomly growing among the thorns.The general problem in Germany is that people do not try to look attractive to others.This creates a blunt impresion at first is very unbearable from Balkan point of view.
The number of hot girls accompanying unimpressive guys and of decent guys with very mediocre girls is rather in the direction of the latter.There is mismatch in appearance between German guys and German girls with the guys being more attractive than the girls.For a gay Greek Germany could be a heaven there are just too many attractive men to the point that women lose any significance.

Also very attractive German girls can in some cases be more aproachable than mediocre or average Geeman girls. Germans value more IQ and strength than appearance.A general problem is that the the heavy cold can make the South European look ridiculous freezing. Turks look like shit in this environment.My natural reaction as a Balkan was to never cover my head, hands or neck to show strength.Never at any time show that the snow or extreme weather can affect your status otherwise you are held as weak.The same when it is hot I always behave like it does not exist.

Foreigners have it bad in Germany due to high IQ requirements and complex culture where it is difficult to integrate.Even I as Greek had problem adjusting to some aspects of it so I imagine it must be difficult for the rest.For example when you need to eat to operate and everything is closed. When you cannot find decent coffee or noone helps you with directions.The tabels and information in eastern Germany are small and difficult to see due to low light conditions. Low light makes every effort very obstructed.Add to this the cold and the constant desire to keep the order.Every movement is hindered unless it goes with the flow.

Germans want you to do certain activities when they want like eating etc.You always find there yourself thinking about the social value of your actions for example do my actions have an interest for society?You have always to pay attention to elderly and disabled.If you are an elderly, a disabled or a dog it is a nice place. You cannot be an egoist in Germany and satisfy only your needs without taking the needs of others into account. You have to sense the social problem.

There is some freedom in shitting in the sense that you can shit everywhere although you have to pay for it.Comfortable shitting is an advantage in Germany compared to constipated Greece.Even when you shit you add social value since the money you paid to use the toilet is probably taxed.So you can shit without concerns.

[Sargon of Akkad]

I've already mentioned this in other threads...

I agree that guys here tend to take much better care of their appearance than the women. It's a paradox...I can't really comprehend it.

I would not agree with the statement that German women are all pteradyctyls in drag, though. On average, they're neither jaw-droppingly hot nor super-ugly. My problem with them, however, is that they tend to be boring: boring in terms of style, boring in terms of temperament, boring in terms of looks.

The main reason for their average absence of appeal to me is not their lack of looks, but their general lack of charm. It only dawned on me relatively lately how much the presence or absence of sexuality in a woman's body language and attitude can affect my attraction (or lack thereof) to her. A nice body and makeup are all well and good, but they're not much when she acts and walks either like a guy or an asexual robot. That's not to say there aren't any sexy (native) women here, only that you shouldn't be expecting to find them in abundance compared to other places. A lot of my friends and acquaintances are (German) women, but to me, they're basically like guy-friends. Then again, maybe it's just me.

Right now the weather here is absolute shit, so everyone's covered up, and the temperature also reflects in the people's attitudes. In the summer it's not too hard to find moderately hot women. Still, I tend to go after women of other nationalities. Starting next week, I'll be in Japan, so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing a different crowd of women.

[Branimir]

(03-17-2013 11:29 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

I agree that guys here tend to take much better care of their appearance than the women. It's a paradox...I can't really comprehend it.

I agree, though there's some places where women tend to dress better, like Düsseldorf or Hamburg, but these are upper-caste women being guarded by a group most likely expecting you to speak german ,also competition is strong Males are tall, handsome, smart, most likely have a career going on and attractive. At the end those girls probably already have a boyfriend anyway.

I agree about the weather, I know Germany doesn't have good weather, but it's the first time I witness a winter like this- it's unbearable. Like some sort of apocalypse where a meteroid hits the earth and covers the atmosphere with a thick layer of dust, telling the sun to fuck off.
Weather is more important than you think, german mood is heavily influenced by weather.
You always hear them bitching about the weather.
ALWAYS.

It's no wonder middle eastern immigrants get crazy and miserable with this weather, they're genetically not prepared for something like this.

[Pacesetter20]

(03-17-2013 11:56 AM)Branimir Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 11:29 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

I agree that guys here tend to take much better care of their appearance than the women. It's a paradox...I can't really comprehend it.

I agree, though there's some places where women tend to dress better, like Düsseldorf or Hamburg, but these are upper-caste women being guarded by a group most likely expecting you to speak german ,also competition is strong Males are tall, handsome, smart, most likely have a career going on and attractive. At the end those girls probably already have a boyfriend anyway.

I agree about the weather, I know Germany doesn't have good weather, but it's the first time I witness a winter like this- it's unbearable. Like some sort of apocalypse where a meteroid hits the earth and covers the atmosphere with a thick layer of dust, telling the sun to fuck off.
Weather is more important than you think, german mood is heavily influenced by weather.
You always hear them bitching about the weather.
ALWAYS.

It's no wonder middle eastern immigrants get crazy and miserable with this weather, they're genetically not prepared for something like this.

Lower 40s/Upper 30s and rain for the next week here. What's not to love about German weather in March.

[Branimir]

(03-17-2013 10:56 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Foreigners have it bad in Germany due to high IQ requirements and complex culture where it is difficult to integrate.Even I as Greek had problem adjusting to some aspects of it so I imagine it must be difficult for the rest.For example when you need to eat to operate and everything is closed.

This is so true. I have an good example for that comparing balkan culture with german due to my croatian heritage.
In summer I was visiting a cousin in a town of 100.000 in Croatia.
It was Tuesday , around 23:00. So what does my cousin do?
He just calls some buddy and asks him if he wants to go for a drink and talk, the guy totally agrees, at fucking 23:00 in the middle of the week!
I was bluffed, so we went downtown, what do I see, people sitting in bars and cafe's outside talking & chilling like it would be in the middle of the day!
On the way we went also to another cafe where we would meet even more guys hanging out and talking /chilling .
My german brain just couldn't comprehend this, as not even my bestest friend here would come with me at such a time to go for a drink, everyone would think I'm literally crazy!
Like really , nobody would do that.
At that time everybody is already sleeping in Germany!
Everybody would give me the " The hell? I can't I have to get up early and work tomorrow!"

They did have to work too in Croatia, but they just saw everything alot more chilled, not worrying about such things, 4-6 hours of sleep? So what.

But not just that, in Germany I'm living in a 10x times bigger city (1 mil. pop) which has additionally to that million more people in the agglomeration, more population than all of Croatia! But the city will be empty in the night of the week! You'll just see some shady people and bums walking around. But the hell, never you'll see loads of people sitting in cafes and chatting at night in the middle of the week lol.
The society here completely is adjusted to work and Ordnung in your timetable.
You'll notice the ordnung of their timetable when making dates with chicks, you'll always have to ask them already several days before. They'll never ever go on a spontanous coffee on the same day you ask them, even if they could. Rare exceptions exist.

[Greek kamaki]

I would like to enjoy the pleasures of the programmed BJ.Generally a German likes everything to have an order in time and space.They do not like spontaneous things, rubbish etc and are always reserved.
The quality of people you meet in metro or in the streets leaves a lot to be desired.Most Germans prefer private life and entertain in friends homes where you never get invited.I suppose most of the meet ups hook ups and bangs take place in these safe environments.

[Greek kamaki]

Differences between Greeks and Germans:
1.Politeness:Germans are more polite.You don't face addressing in singular,rudeness or people grabbing you from the shirt like it happens in Greece.
2.Friendship:Greeks easier to make friends with.Germans are more distant.
3.Communicating:Germans are more straight,Greeks are more indirect.Germans tell everything,Greeks always hide some information.
4.Concentration,attention:Germans are more concentrated.Greek mind wanders.

5.Order:Germans are more orderly.Greeks are chaotic.In fact they like chaos to have freedom to improvize.
6.Accuracy:Germans are more accurate.
7.Kraftwerk:Germans are better in building things,roads,houses,factories etc.They are more skilled with hands.
8.Speed:Germans are faster.However they always think about common good(they are obliged to do so) and this slows many things.(social necessities are to be taken into account).Greeks are more egoistic and take care only of themselves.

9.Contact:Greeks attempt to get more close contact.They are more warm.They come more into your face while talking.Germans keep personal space.
10.Improvization:Greeks always improvize.Germans follow a proven road.They are more conservative.
11.Multi task.Greeks are better in multi task.
12.Generally Greeks are more sly,distrustful and mind hidding.Germans are more honest,trustful and hypocritical.(western hypocrisy vs Balkan slyness).

[Sargon of Akkad]

(03-17-2013 01:16 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I would like to enjoy the pleasures of the programmed BJ.Generally a German likes everything to have an order in time and space.They do not like spontaneous things, rubbish etc and are always reserved.
The quality of people you meet in metro or in the streets leaves a lot to be desired.

That's somewhat of a stereotype a lot of outsiders have about Germans. In reality, probably about half of all German students from 18-28 are fairly unorganized. The whole order-and-efficiency image holds true for German burocracy and administration, but the image of German people being super efficient, on time, yadayada is only true in very relative terms, and it's not too hard to find people who are spontaneous, always late, or unreliable here. However, it's true that flaking is comparatively uncommon (come to think of it, there doesn't seem to be any proper equivalent of the word "flake" in the German language that I can think of).

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Germans prefer private life and entertain in friends homes where you never get invited.I suppose most of the meet ups hook ups and bangs take place in these safe environments

Not necessarily in friends' homes, but a lot of groups tend to be far more insular. Hookups happening with random strangers at a bar is comparatively rare. It's also very rare to find guys here who go out to clubs and bars actively looking for girls. Bangs and hookups occur almost exclusively through social circle and mutual acquaintances for many guys.

[Greek kamaki]

All interviews were successful.I have 4 job offers.The money is very good.The German directors were so nice I will feel bad having to reject three of the jobs.
With the money one makes in Germany he can have 5-10 polish and Czech girls simultaneously.I will organize my excursions to redirect the money flow to the East.The other option is to save money but we Greeks are not famous for that.I choose the eastern investment.

Clearly Germans try to hire all worthy personel from Greece.Soon Greece will be left without backbone only entitled ofsprings,elderly and illegal immigrants will remain.I don't predict any good future in this environment.

[Greek kamaki]

Here in Greece again I saw at least some real asses.The difference is huge compared to Germany.In Germany I did not have even the mood to do a photoshoot the situation was as bad.
Another difference is the plenty of light in Greece which makes everything easily seen.Everything is shitty built (roads, pavements etc) but at least the girls keep us horny.Also people here are more attractive and pleasant to look at.Exception are of course the illegal immigrants who have flooded the capital.There is nothing like this in any German city.

[GameTheory]

(03-16-2013 10:21 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

[...]8.Dogs rights.A lot more in Germany.[...]

lolzzzzzzz

[Technics]

(03-18-2013 03:53 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:21 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

[...]8.Dogs rights.A lot more in Germany.[...]

lolzzzzzzz

Will horrors never cease?

Not only does a player have to worry about unattractive girls and bad weather in Germany, you can't even get a good kick in on a dog without some righteous asshole causing a stink about it.

[Marcellus]

this is all so fucking true... Greek, what would you do in this environment to get some ass... If you didn't have access to E-european pussy (that's cheating).

[Greek kamaki]

Your freedom is limited in Germany and you feel perverted talking to girls.Unless they are slavic girls of course.
In Germany you have to respect the rights of the others.This creates a safe environment for everyone.
You cannot swear,spit,fart, kick dogs or cats, push the elderly take the position of the disabled.You cannot drink or eat while walking, even coffee is almost impossible to drink while walking.You cannot finger girls in the train as it is the case in Ukraine.
You also cannot go out at night and get condoms or eat because everything is closed after 20.00.

However shitting is rather good in Germany and this compensates for the other imperfections.Also if you are exercised in Greek sunny weather you can spot the slavic girls and this is lethal in Germany since the country is swarm with slavic girls.

[Greek kamaki]

(03-18-2013 04:46 PM)Marcellus Wrote:  

this is all so fucking true... Greek, what would you do in this environment to get some ass... If you didn't have access to E-european pussy (that's cheating).

Quite simply.Hit the U-bahn, the Hauptbahnhof and the airport. There are way too many girls there and in general they like the Greek approaching style.
However Germany is a tough country and it is easy to look insignificant there so you have to somehow impose your presence on the Goths dressing up without look ridiculous. It is very easy to look out of space in Germany with so many freaks.

Germany has potential in my opinion it is very easy to find girlfriend there.The problem is that the level of attraction is so low that after a while you may lose all interest for women altogether since they look like men or even less attractive than men.

The only way to keep horny in Germany in order ro operate appropriately is to visit the neighbouring slavic countries from time to time and come back phantasizing about the German girls plus make up, high heels,short skirts creating an autoillusion to help you approach them.

[Greek kamaki]

Now back in Greece I realize that the difference in economic power between Greece and Germany is exactly the same in the difference in appearance of women in reverse mode.After Germany Greek women look like Godesses causing priapic welcomes.I am sure they do not look so good it is just that I was in Germany that makes them look so good.

[RougeNoir]

(03-18-2013 04:56 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

The problem is that the level of attraction is so low that after a while you may lose all interest for women altogether since they look like men or even less attractive than men.

[EU Explorer]

(03-18-2013 04:50 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

You cannot swear,spit,fart, kick dogs or cats, push the elderly take the position of the disabled.You cannot drink or eat while walking, even coffee is almost impossible to drink while walking.You cannot finger girls in the train as it is the case in Ukraine.

Kamaki you made me spit out my coffee laughing when I read this so thank you for brightening up my day

I think we should have a competition to see who can get the 'fingering a German girl on the train' flag

[Greek kamaki]

German economic success has a lot to do with the appearance of local women.You are really inspired in Germany to work or take long walks admiring the architecture and art.In Greece all the asses and breasts circulating around in common view combined with the hot weather make you want to stroll outside all day pick up,fuck etc.A Greek has to be a 24 hours a day individual and Athens never sleeps.Germany sleeps well at night to get batteries loaded for the next day work.
Maybe a mutual exchange between German and Greek women would help us shortening the economic gap from Germany.

[Branimir]

(03-20-2013 07:33 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

German economic success has a lot to do with the appearance of local women.You are really inspired in Germany to work or take long walks admiring the architecture and art.In Greece all the asses and breasts circulating around in common view combined with the hot weather make you want to stroll outside all day pick up,fuck etc.A Greek has to be a 24 hours a day individual and Athens never sleeps.Germany sleeps well at night to get batteries loaded for the next day work.
Maybe a mutual exchange between German and Greek women would help us shortening the economic gap from Germany.

That's just brilliant.
That would be probably the worst but most efficient austerity measure Germany could do to Greece.
Those strong independent girls would take control over the mind of greek guys and turn everything into a fight over political power,
even sex, after crushing the famous greek sex drive with their appearance and iciness that'll freeze even the balls of the greek guys off.
Greeks guys would probably burn down their parliament before that happens,
I don't think they'd like to trade in their girls for this (mind you it gets worse with age, those girls here are in their "prime") :







But hey, atleast Greece would experience an economical boom,
and the country will revive it's status of thinkers and philosophers because the distraction will be on a historical minimum .

Jokes aside, there ARE some really nice german girls out there.
But it's not the norm.

[EU Explorer]

(03-20-2013 11:14 AM)Branimir Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 07:33 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

German economic success has a lot to do with the appearance of local women.You are really inspired in Germany to work or take long walks admiring the architecture and art.In Greece all the asses and breasts circulating around in common view combined with the hot weather make you want to stroll outside all day pick up,fuck etc.A Greek has to be a 24 hours a day individual and Athens never sleeps.Germany sleeps well at night to get batteries loaded for the next day work.
Maybe a mutual exchange between German and Greek women would help us shortening the economic gap from Germany.

That's just brilliant.
That would be probably the worst but most efficient austerity measure Germany could do to Greece.
Those strong independent girls would take control over the mind of greek guys and turn everything into a fight over political power,
even sex, after crushing the famous greek sex drive with their appearance and iciness that'll freeze even the balls of the greek guys off.
Greeks guys would probably burn down their parliament before that happens,
I don't think they'd like to trade in their girls for this (mind you it gets worse with age, those girls here are in their "prime") :







But hey, atleast Greece would experience an economical boom,
and the country will revive it's status of thinkers and philosophers because the distraction will be on a historical minimum .

Jokes aside, there ARE some really nice german girls out there.
But it's not the norm.

Well this pattern is now happening in the UK between Polish women and English men. I know of 6 guys that are in relationships with Polish women (within my extended social circle) and when you see the attitude, expectations, personality and standard of looks of the majority of English women this is no surprise.

Roosh invented the 'busted dude test' for the EE but I think for Germany and the UK the 'busted chic test' is also applicable (4-5/10 chic with 7-8/10 man)

[Greek kamaki]

German women should also carry whips here to constantly whip the Greek guys when they do not work and dream of asses.

[Greek kamaki]

Germany is an ideal place if you want to be relieved of the disease of horniness.This place can cause a dehorniation of mass scale enough to make you concentrate on more important things than women.
The southern European who faces priapic situations and salivates like dog to every female can get peace in Germany and heal himself of the Pavlov dog's reflex.There can be no drooling for German women.Instead of that the former horny guy can become a productive member of the society which is not served well when he happens to be a masturbator.For sure a dehorny man is always a better employee than a masturbator and a penis sinking woman is far more efficient than any work environment slut.