[Teedub]

Once again, the Daily Mail stands up for normal gender relations. What it certainly lacks in regards the of blaming immigrants for all the world's ills, it makes up for in its defence of traditional gender norms.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/articl...gone-.html

TL/DR

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Until recently, the ‘trans’ crowd has been lumped in with the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) lobby. Now that gays and lesbians are firmly rooted in the mainstream, the trannies have regrouped.

It's basically about gender-neutral public toilets. What has started in the most gay/trans-friendly city will almost certainly spread nationwide due to the diversity fascists.

When a society descends into this:

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Britain boasts a panoply of publicly-funded pressure groups dedicated to furthering the interests of tranvestites, transsexuals and a whole lexicon of other hyphen-sexuals, including bi-sexuals, tri-sexuals, inter-sexuals and pan-sexuals.
The number of gender-specific categories is mind-boggling and ranges from ‘gender-queers’ and those who define as ‘third gender’ to cross-dressers and drag queens.

You know you have a rotten pathetic 'society'. These are all made up, entirely post-modern ailments. With the exception of bi-sexual, which occurs in most animals. What the fuck is a "gender queer"? Someone looking for victim status. Madness.

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The ‘trans’ lobby has taken over from the gay rights gang as the most militant, vociferous campaigning group in the country. The public sector is already in thrall to pressure from the transgendered industry.

As with all well-meaning hyper-liberal ideas, it costs money, and the proponents of such ideas are bleeding the country dry. Millions of pounds are cut from an ever more politicised police every year, whilst millions are wasted on shit like this, and on 'diversity training' et al.

Man, I hate progressivism.

[bojangles]

fucking bollocks i tell ya

[Teedub]

(02-19-2013 08:52 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

fucking bollocks i tell ya

Who's bollocks? A man's or a trannies?

[Matt3B]

Those poor faggots, having to share toilets with those misogynistic, narrow minded men who just can't accept them for who they are and don't realise that the world is evolving. Oh wait.

[Huck Finn]

The world is mental, the worst part of this sort of bureaucratic policy is that even if 90% of people think it is crap policy, we are powerless to stop it, the West may fool the rest of the world when it brags about its democracy but we westerners know that in our society the reality is our ability to enact change or prevent it is pretty non existent. Billions of dollars of debt hanging over our heads but hey, lets appease the trannys first because what would we do without them?

[Soma]

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Britain boasts a panoply of publicly-funded pressure groups dedicated to furthering the interests of tranvestites, transsexuals and a whole lexicon of other hyphen-sexuals, including bi-sexuals, tri-sexuals, inter-sexuals and pan-sexuals.

What the fuck is a tri-sexual?

[Cincinnatus]

(02-19-2013 10:46 AM)Soma Wrote:  

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Britain boasts a panoply of publicly-funded pressure groups dedicated to furthering the interests of tranvestites, transsexuals and a whole lexicon of other hyphen-sexuals, including bi-sexuals, tri-sexuals, inter-sexuals and pan-sexuals.

What the fuck is a tri-sexual?

A bullshit term from someone seeking victim status in pursuit of government dollars. I was wondering the same damned thing. What the fuck is an inter-sexual? What the fuck is a pan-sexual? Are pan-sexuals some kinky offshoot in the spirit of pan-Arabism?

[Parlay44]

Can't we just go back to the old hole in the floor toilets?
Problem solved

[bacon]

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Until recently, the ‘trans’ crowd has been lumped in with the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) lobby. Now that gays and lesbians are firmly rooted in the mainstream, the trannies have regrouped.

that makes sense. you have to be crazy to chop your dick off which is the endgame for many trannys. i can see why gay men dont want to be lumped in with a group who cut off their dicks as thats the last thing a gay man would want to do.

[Frost]

I'm excited to watch feminist heads explode as they have to deal with dick-waving trannies who want to use their bathrooms, change rooms, get affirmative action etc. Relevant thread here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20609.html

As for this tri-sexual business, I have a treat for you. Google or search on Reddit for: "Tumblr In Action"

Be enlightened on the wonders of pansexualism, trans-speciesism, trans-fat, trans-racialism, and all kinds of other fun stuff. The left truly is beyond parody.

[Nudge]

I always thought Tri-sexual was a term for a mega-slut. As in "try anything sexual".

[Teedub]

Came across a thread on The Student Room when trying to look into what the fuck trans-speciesism is and came across the following comment:

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This is a very interesting question but Trans-sexualism makes me severely uncomfortable so I will probably just cause a load of offence as I try to express my views on it. I don't mind people being gay and that, or even people who genuinely change their gender through operations, but when people who are biologically one gender decided society must treat them as if they belong to the other gender I start to get a bit unnerved by it. In a way I think these people help maintain stereotypes about how a man or woman should be by not being able to accept the gender they were born with and be a camp man / tomboy woman. This may read as ignorance but it worries me to think that your idea of trans-speciesism could actually happen because grey areas are becoming so widespread in our society which doesn't want to offend anyone and has to be superPC. OMG I sound so bad, on re-reading this, but there you go, this is how I feel about it.

The part I highlighted is to demonstrate how this guy begins by stating a somewhat objectionable stance towards PCism, then commits the biggest PC sin there is in self censorship and self shaming.

It's just a pathetic society we're creating in the West. Everyone wants to be a victim, and everyone is terrified to be seen as an oppressor. On another thread, someone posted about the difference between modern and post-modern discourse. It's relevant here.

All views are acceptable and you can believe anything you want unless it contains any strain of tradition. Tradition that served mankind well for thousands of years.

[porscheguy]

I wonder how many of their "pan-sexual" deviants are gainfully employed? AFAIC, even being bisexual is not normal. To quote Dice, "either you suck dick, or you do not suck dick."

[Sombro]

(02-19-2013 11:01 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Can't we just go back to the old hole in the floor toilets?

Depends™.

[ColSpanker]

Self mutilation is no way to deal with gender confusion.

[germanico]

When I was in high school, there was this flaming gay dude in one of my classes. He had long hair, wore makeup and blouses and was generally a drag queen in the making.

Dude catched a lot of heat, but nobody attacked him as we generally tried to be cool. So that made him be cocky sometimes.

One time, they where doing some masonry work on the second floor bathrooms, so the prefect came in to explain us what where the arrangements going to be for the next few days, as guys where going to use the ones in the third floor and girls the ones in the first floor.

So the dude asked "What about me? which one should I use?"

The prefect just looked him straight in the eye and said "Whenever you feel like using the bathroom, use the one at your house"

[Anon-A-Moose]

(02-19-2013 10:45 AM)Huck Finn Wrote:  

The world is mental, the worst part of this sort of bureaucratic policy is that even if 90% of people think it is crap policy, we are powerless to stop it, the West may fool the rest of the world when it brags about its democracy but we westerners know that in our society the reality is our ability to enact change or prevent it is pretty non existent. Billions of dollars of debt hanging over our heads but hey, lets appease the trannys first because what would we do without them?

Democracy = rule of the masses.
Western democracy = rule of the money and the loud.

[kosko]

Another bullshit export via from Toronto, now gone global. Toronto is the future of all Western Cities (post in this in the works).

Get ready for Lesbian-Feminists in power:

Two weeks ago Ontario put in place it's first female and (err..) lesbian Premier (had to go all chips in when they had that chance). Just like Kim Campbell whom was Prime Minister of Canada only from a party re-shuffle in leadership and did not get the job from the public vote (she was nuked in the next election and was the final nail in The coffin of old-east block Conservatism in Canada - It would take 10 years for them to recover).

What I an getting at here us now that they have the money and using it to advance policy, next they will take actual footholds in power. Present right now "Big Labour" - President? Homosexual Male. Premier of Ontario? Lesbian Female. The next Mayor of Toronto as the rumors are stating if she rubs will be a Downtown Councilwoman whom is a Asian-Canadian Lesbian and a card carrying feminist.

Imagine if the Mayor of NYC, Governor of Texas or California, and the leader of the largest and most powerful public all with feminist or gay backgrounds. This isn't a knock that gays can't be leaders as its almost certain just by the numbers that a one or a few POTUS's were gay (Nixon). But what IS an issue especially NOW is that this small group is in collusion abs has a clear set agenda and is not serving the publics interest.

These loony policies come from this power block within Government that arm twists for policies that are redundant and cost/waste a lot of cash. They could care less because they as parasites need Government to forever expand to give then false legitimacy. Because I always say if nature where the judge and jury their ambitions would of been squashed.

Oh and these LGBQT people do discriminate I. Others. They do not support mentally confused males whom cross dress (CD Male) and identify then selves as females ( sorta ). Theses clowns are lower then omegas if they still line females, most probably are just gay but this situation is to "real" for the LGBQT community to touch.

[Idlenations]

Take everything that's in the daily mail with a pinch of salt. Hyping up this non-issue of a toilet for trannies in one of the gay hotspots of the uk. I'm not really bothered until it starts to emerge elsewhere.

[Surreyman]

This is such a non-issue.

I don't care if gays or chicks-with-dicks are using the same toilets as me, as long as they're not fucking in them.

If trannies want to use the ladies, then sit down.

Nobody cares about what gay people do, and that's as tolerant as the British public get, so they need to accept it. You're here, you're queer, it doesn't affect me.

[Teedub]

No, but it's indicative of a certain brand (I won't straight up call it leftism after reading Tuth's article), or strain of progressivism in Britain that I don't like.

It's also about hard cash and gov handouts for 'victim' groups and companies who specialise in training people in 'equality and diversity'.

[cardguy]

Yeah - the transexuals will be running the gay rights agenda over the next 20 years. To be honest - most of us could live with the idea that our son might one day tell us they are gay. But would you be fine with your son telling you he wants to be a woman?

I am pretty liberal and don't give a shit what anyone else gets up to. Including the people closest to me. They can chop their dicks off and inject heroin into their eyeballs for all I care. If that is what they sincerely want to do then it is fine with me. I believe in total freedom when it comes to your own body.

The transexual debate is a curious one. Being transgendered is currently classed as a mental illness. But will soon be reclassified as normal. That is interesting since being gay was once classed as a mental illness and is now considered normal.

Personally I don't give a fuck about how people define their sexualities.

I am more concerned with the millions of people fooling themselves into thinking depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain which can be fixed by drugs. It is not. And there is zero evidence to support it. Personally - I think that is fucked up since alot of weak minded and suggestible people are falling into self-fulfilling traps where they are sad. And then convince themselves they are depressed. Which means they will never not be sad again. And spend the rest of their lives ingesting drugs whose long-term impact is unknown. It is an example of circular thinking similar to that seen in religion, love, repressed memories, hypnosis and conjuring.

I have similar concern for the medicalisation of normal behaviour in children (iusually boys).

Like I said before. People can do what they want - but it is a shame that there is much misinformation out there. Which is put out for the benefit of the drug companies and not the people it supposed to help.

On the issue to do with kids - there is a brilliant rant here from Tom Cruise which is just fantastic. The guy is a fucking legend. And I don't give a fuck about what his religion is. His religion is no crazier than any of the others. Since there is zero evidence for any of them.

As for the issue of depression and drugs. These two articles are the best overview of the issue I have seen:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...tion=false

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...sychiatry/

[Teedub]

Cardguy. Yeah you're right about Tom Cruise, both in terms of what he's saying in the video and the point about his religion.

[cardguy]

I have alot of respect for Tom Cruise.

Most Hollywood actors are too dumb to be concerned about much apart from themselves.

And even those who do speak up usually address left-wing issues which are fashionable and usually quite shallow.

Not Tom Cruise. He doesn't give a fuck. And just wants to get his message out. Even though it it harms his career. And what he said above is genuinely useful. Whilst at the same time I don't think he preaches his scientology message too much unless he is addressing other scientologists.

Man - Tom is a better man than me. If I were in his position I would be too busy fucking to give a fuck about anything else.

[cardguy]

As for the LGBT agenda. Whenever these issues are raised at work (which is most days) I just bang on about my massive foot fetish. And how I am sick of hiding it, and how I am not ashamed of the 634 pairs of womens shoes I have in my bedroom.

And how I won't shut up until there is a poster campaign promoting tolerance for my way of life.