[cooledcannon]

(05-10-2014 05:17 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

When net neutrality is gone, the Roosh V Forum will load like it's on a 24k dial up modem.

Why would you think that? ISPs have no reason to make their internet shittier than it normally is, thats shooting themselves in the foot.

[turkishcandy]

(05-10-2014 10:19 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 05:00 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

All countries are converging to an oligarchical authoritarian system with the appearance of "democracy." Technologies will control expression, movement, money. Iron hand, velvet glove.

That will be much harder in the US than in any other country because of the existence of the Constitution, the First Amendment, and a legal tradition that takes a properly expansive view of the freedoms of speech and expression. I don't believe there is another place in the world where free speech is as protected, and where those protections are more difficult to overturn, as they are in the US.

Speaking your mind in the US may in some cases cost you your reputation or livelihood, but you are not going to be thrown in prison by a thug for it, and I don't see that changing anytime soon if ever -- even if some people would very much like it to change. I would not be so confident about any other country, least of all a thugsreich like Russia.

Seems to me like the case in the US is, if it's not a liberal opinion, it's protected just enough so that you won't be thrown to prison. However, you for sure can be the target of a wide and organized withchunt in which case you're likely to lose your job, reputation, wealth and friends.

If it's a liberal, mainstream opinion on the other hand, it's protected too much. You are not allowed to criticize it, and you are literally being forced to cherish and glorify it, otherwise there will be dire societal and legal consequences.

Or maybe that's just what I observe from the media.

[Samseau]

Too many mega-rich companies want net neutrality in the US... it will be a long fight before they control the internet here. Would take a major crisis to get it controlled.

[Sp5]

(05-10-2014 11:19 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Too many mega-rich companies want net neutrality in the US... it will be a long fight before they control the internet here. Would take a major crisis to get it controlled.

I think the mega-rich companies will end up paying for their own channels. The Return of AOL, except several AOLs run by Facebook, Google, MS, NewsCorp, CBS etc. With mega-bandwidth, streaming HD video.

The change won't happen overnight and it won't be the dramatic result of a crisis. It will be slow, steady pressure causing incremental change in behalf of a few large companies trying to increase advertising revenue by increasing page views by limiting how many pages are out there. An almost unconscious process. There will be the big channels streaming HD video ultra-fast. And places like RVF will be backwaters that get hidden and choked off. Kind of like what happened to Usenet. As in the case of Usenet, Big Telecom will use child porn, "hate speech" and "terrorism" to justify the choking.

Also, the initiative to internationalize internet governance will be informed by all of the authoritarian values of the Third World, China, and Europe, with approval from the "intellectual property" protectors and censors in the USA.

I hope I am wrong.