Quote: (02-18-2013 10:19 AM)Teedub Wrote:
That's crazy that even a European Spaniard wouldn't be considered white! I mean, what else are they? The reason it is so bizarre is that the darker ones look exactly the same as Southern Italians - who ARE seen as white. More evidence that it's a cultural term really, and that Spain is heavily associated with the Mestizos/Indians. The Spaniards will hate that.
So are Penelope Cruz and Antonio Banderas seen as non-whites? What about the rapper Pitbull? He's got blue eyes and calls himself a white Latino? I'm truly interested.
Yeah, it's super confusing.
I think it is one reason why I have never been effected by race too much, and never really get on the race threads here (except this one I guess).
American's in general probably don't even know Spain as a country exists. They think all Spanish speakers are from "Mexico".
I remember a time when I was younger when a girl asked me what I was, I said, "Spanish and Irish".
She then said, "Why don't you say you are Mexican, why would you say you are Spanish?".
Complete idiot.
And just so you know, this was a girl from one of the richest beach towns in all of Southern California. It wasn't like this girl was from Riverside or something.
I could give a million examples like this of things I have heard/experienced, but I don't want to dumb down the start of my day.
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So are Penelope Cruz and Antonio Banderas seen as non-whites?
I would say yes. They would be considered non-whites.
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What about the rapper Pitbull?
Depends where I think. I have a girlfriend that is Cuban and I think in Miami she is considered white for sure.
But she has told me, when she leaves Miami she realizes how "Latin" she is ie the way she dresses, the way she dances, talks, her body etc.
Keep in mind, this girl looks as white as can be. She is lighter skin than me, and I am half Irish.
So Miami might be different in this regard.