[Gringo]

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That's the thing I don't want to silver spoon, but to have good food in Cambodia you have to. Eating at restaurants catering to foreigners is not an indication of "Cambodian food is delicious." Unless of course you like buffalo meat, fried spiders, ants, and other mystery meat. But than I'm not staying at 3 dollars per night rooms and travel 40 clicks on bicycles, so maybe I am silver spooning. Like I said, go there as a secondary destination, there is nothing there to make Cambodia your final destination.

You do not have to eat in fancy foreign restautants to get good grub in Cambodia, I've eaten in local cafe and street stalls and the food was delicious. I didn't have to eat spiders or ants once. Nothing wrong with buffalo meat though, I didn't eat it in Cambodia but I've eaten it at home many times and it's a delicious meat.

Reasons to make Cambodia your final destination: Angkor Temples, the history & culture, it's beauty, the fact that the country is lawless and you can do whatever the fuck you like, easy available and semi-legal drugs, great beaches, gorgeous islands for snorkelling, fishing etc, partying in PP & Sihanoukville, Bongkor National park etc.

This talk of Jakarta has intriguied me, didn't realise it had such a wild nightlife and the fact I can buy disco biscuits in clubs is right up my street.

[CrackerJack]

(07-12-2011 02:25 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

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That's the thing I don't want to silver spoon, but to have good food in Cambodia you have to. Eating at restaurants catering to foreigners is not an indication of "Cambodian food is delicious." Unless of course you like buffalo meat, fried spiders, ants, and other mystery meat. But than I'm not staying at 3 dollars per night rooms and travel 40 clicks on bicycles, so maybe I am silver spooning. Like I said, go there as a secondary destination, there is nothing there to make Cambodia your final destination.

You do not have to eat in fancy foreign restautants to get good grub in Cambodia, I've eaten in local cafe and street stalls and the food was delicious. I didn't have to eat spiders or ants once. Nothing wrong with buffalo meat though, I didn't eat it in Cambodia but I've eaten it at home many times and it's a delicious meat.

Reasons to make Cambodia your final destination: Angkor Temples, the history & culture, it's beauty, the fact that the country is lawless and you can do whatever the fuck you like, easy available and semi-legal drugs, great beaches, gorgeous islands for snorkelling, fishing etc, partying in PP & Sihanoukville, Bongkor National park etc.

This talk of Jakarta has intriguied me, didn't realise it had such a wild nightlife and the fact I can buy disco biscuits in clubs is right up my street.

Enough about food (it still sucks). Be careful about disregarding Cambodia's "lawlessness." Having a "happy pizza" for experience is ok. If you really want to be 'lawless' for cheap, Indonesia is the place. I love it. It's so easy to bribe anybody, I pretty much did it for sport. It's almost like being above the law for 10 grand a month. For 50 you can get away with murder. I am wary of Cambodia, it's for suckers.

[Gringo]

You can bribe anyone that needs to be bribed in Cambodia too. The fact I can smoke opium, get stoned, eat mushrooms, take yaba, buy valium, viagra, xanax, oxycontin, ritalin, codiene etc at any pharmacy, shoot guns etc appeals to me. Can probably all be done in Indonesia too but I still love Cambodia.

[CrackerJack]

(07-13-2011 01:10 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

You can bribe anyone that needs to be bribed in Cambodia too. The fact I can smoke opium, get stoned, eat mushrooms, take yaba, buy valium, viagra, xanax, oxycontin, ritalin, codiene etc at any pharmacy, shoot guns etc appeals to me. Can probably all be done in Indonesia too but I still love Cambodia.

haha. ok. I expressed my opinion on Cambodia fully through this thread. Good luck and have fun to anybody traveling there. It's not so bad, but shit is better elsewhere.

[Entropy4]

I guess if you're into drugs and guns, stay in Cambodia. But like I said, you'd have to pay me to stay there for more than 5 days. The temples were absolutely worth it. Everything else... ehh...

[oldnemesis]

(07-13-2011 01:10 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

You can bribe anyone that needs to be bribed in Cambodia too. The fact I can smoke opium, get stoned, eat mushrooms, take yaba, buy valium, viagra, xanax, oxycontin, ritalin, codiene etc at any pharmacy, shoot guns etc appeals to me.

LOL, you just killed my desire to ever visit Cambodia.

[Gringo]

Who isn't into drugs and guns? I thought we were rock n roll around here but I guess not.

Oh well more drugs and guns for me.

[Tony Snow25]

Seems like a fun place, I just don't know if I would do all of the drugs you listed above lol. I've seen to many people fuck their selves over with oxy, it is basically a gateway drug for heroin. I had to look up that yaba drug it seems like its crystal meth in a pill form lol. It seems like a cool place to get loaded and explore. I watched a documentary on those temples they seem really sick.

[Gringo]

Yeah yaba is crystal meth. Great for partying for days on end or marathon sex sessions. I would love Cambodia even if there were no drugs.

[oldnemesis]

(07-14-2011 01:58 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

Who isn't into drugs and guns?

I'm quite against drugs, and completely indifferent to guns.

[Kona]

(07-15-2011 05:07 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

I would love Cambodia even if there were no drugs.

No you wouldn't.

I cruised through there a few years back. Shikaville (or whatever it's called) is amazing. I saw the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. They were wearing rainbows instead of clothes and riding dinosaurs instead of bikes.

Cambodia is a blast, as long as your careful. You gotta know how to recognize the good stuff before you go. I doubt you want to experience their medical facilities.

Without drugs they wouldn't have the whacked out gun ranges. The most you could do you would be to cruise around and look at churches built on mass graves, and get hassled by sweaty dudes with AK-47s, but that's about it.

Gringo, for a similar experience try West Sumbawa in Indo. I was just there, but to check out some business so I didn't get to into things like I would have normally.

The place has unbelievable waves. Most people were there to surf. The fishing blew my mind. Everything I caught was super healthy, and the water was remarkably clean. Mushrooms there were on par with Hawaii. I didn't mess with anything else, and don't touch the yaba but everything was everywhere. All things were cheap as hell.

There were only two downsides: mosquitos and women.

I don't mess with malaria pills, but they tell you to. I brought a girl with me, and she handled, no pills for her either. Stay somewhere with air conditioning. We did, and the bed still had nets. Put shit on yourself, but you're just going to get bit.

Like I said, I brought my own girl, and was happy I did. Every local I saw was a little too third-worldish for me, or a hooker. Most of the tourist girls were maybe too much into the scene, and let themselves go a little. The girl I brought will jump all over a threeway in a heartbeat, and we found quite a few willing, they were all just a little too grimey. After a mulyi day run, and all greased up with repellent, you can imagine. There is a gold mine there, and it's a really interesting thing to check out. A lot of Australians work at it. I love chilling and getting wasted with folks from OZ, and have some great friends there. They'll tell you that OZ guys get loud and swarm over girls, and swooping can be tough around them. Girls included, still met some cool folks that could surf as hard as they could party. Maybe if I was all spun, it would be another story.

Check it out.

Aloha!

[Lumiere]

Dont get the deal with the 'happy' pizzas (pizza with weed on it). Apparently that shit just makes you really sleepy. Why would you want a pizza that sends you to sleep?

[Entropy4]

I don't get the deal with doing drugs in third world countries, that just sounds like a horrible combination.

[Gringo]

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I'm quite against drugs, and completely indifferent to guns.

All drugs or just illegal drugs? Legalise it all, drugs are fun.

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No you wouldn't.

Yeah I would, I've been twice, one trip I took no drugs.

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The most you could do you would be to cruise around and look at churches built on mass graves, and get hassled by sweaty dudes with AK-47s, but that's about it.

I disagree as there's loads to do but each to their own. National parks, abandoned mountain cities, beach & islands, snorkelling, temples etc.

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Dont get the deal with the 'happy' pizzas (pizza with weed on it). Apparently that shit just makes you really sleepy. Why would you want a pizza that sends you to sleep?

Weed in general, smoked or eaten CAN make you tired if that's the effect you get from it. Eating weed can be a much more powerful experience, I've had full blown psychedelic trips from space cakes.

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I don't get the deal with doing drugs in third world countries, that just sounds like a horrible combination.

It's a winning combo, easily available, lax laws, can bribe the cops, good quality and pure, cheap as fuck, no ones gives a fuck. Happy days.

[Entropy4]

Well, to each their own. It's cool that you love Cambodia Gringo. We all have our pet places that we love even though most other people don't, and that's cool. But the general opinion on the place seems pretty clear.

[Gringo]

Without going back and reading through 4 pages I'm not sure anyone actually said they disliked it. At worst people said they'd only spend a couple days there or thought it was OK with a few of us really liking it. If you ask on any other travel forums they'll have nothing but positive things to say about it. Never heard of anyone disliking Cambodia bar maybe those who only go to countries for women.

[Entropy4]

Uhh... maybe you SHOULD go back and check those four pages again.

But whatever, I don't dislike Cambodia, I would just never recommend someone stay there for more than the time it takes to see the Temples and other sites (that's the general opinion by the way). No point in going in circles for another 10 posts. I'm done.

[oldnemesis]

(07-16-2011 01:22 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

All drugs or just illegal drugs? Legalise it all, drugs are fun.

Illegal ones. I dated a drug user before, she died from overdose. Nothing funny.

[Gringo]

Sorry to hear that mate but people can die from legal drugs too, even alcohol. I know someone who died of liver failure. People can die from pretty much everything (cars, crossing the road, planes, giving birth etc) but it'd be a bit silly to be against those things because of that.

Like I say sorry to hear it mate, never good when someone dies.

[LostGringo]

(07-19-2011 03:48 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(07-16-2011 01:22 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

All drugs or just illegal drugs? Legalise it all, drugs are fun.

Illegal ones. I dated a drug user before, she died from overdose. Nothing funny.

I'm surprised to hear such a comment from you, as you seem to be a progressive fellow, given to thoughtful posts. I'm not going to rise to the bait here - any reasonable discussion of drug use, drug policy, societal impacts, morality, etc. is not well served by a forum such as this, if for nothing else, the sheer complexity of the issue.

[oldnemesis]

(07-19-2011 11:37 AM)Gringo Wrote:  

Sorry to hear that mate but people can die from legal drugs too, even alcohol. I know someone who died of liver failure. People can die from pretty much everything (cars, crossing the road, planes, giving birth etc) but it'd be a bit silly to be against those things because of that.

Like I say sorry to hear it mate, never good when someone dies.

Indeed, alcohol is the main cause of death of 40yo+ males in Russia, either directly (i.e. doing stupid things as drunk) or indirectly (liver failure). BTW, smoking is the second one. This is why I'm very careful with this one as well.

But "People can die from pretty much everything" is a moot point. While there is risk in any activity - you can get heart failure and die when having sex, it happened before - what matters is statistical risk. Driving a car, for example, is statistically safe than riding a motorcycle, and skydiving solo is less risky than doing a 50-way from three planes on a boogie. To me drug use is statistically unsafe activity which I'm not going to do (and I consider weed a drug as well).

(07-19-2011 12:33 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

I'm surprised to hear such a comment from you, as you seem to be a progressive fellow, given to thoughtful posts.

Why? There is a lot of things I support to be legalized which I'm not going to do myself. Gay marriage, for example.
I voted "yes" for the marijuana legalization last year. It still failed though. Just because I'm not using something doesn't mean you shouldn't use it too. To each their own. And I don't want my taxes wasted on pot smokers.

[bluewater7]

I want to see a youtube video of Gringo in action in Cambodia with drugs and guns. That'd be enough entertainment for me.

[Gringo]

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To me drug use is statistically unsafe activity which I'm not going to do (and I consider weed a drug as well).

More people die each year from horse accidents than they do from taking Ecstasy. Fact. Just an example. The problem with drugs being dangerous isn't the drugs themselves but the fact they are illegal. The illegality / war on drugs makes them dangerous as the trade is left in the hands of unscrupilous criminals with no morals.

[oldnemesis]

(07-20-2011 12:35 PM)Gringo Wrote:  

More people die each year from horse accidents than they do from taking Ecstasy. Fact.

To start with, I'm not even sure about it. Do you have any evidence which would support this claim, or you're just guessing?

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The problem with drugs being dangerous isn't the drugs themselves but the fact they are illegal.

Not true. Check Wilipedia, most Schedule I drugs were legal at some point of time, and were even sold in stores. Heroin and cocaine, for example, did. The main reason they became "illegal" (in fact just put to Schedule I) is because of having the high potential of abuse while having no legitimate medical use.

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The illegality / war on drugs makes them dangerous as the trade is left in the hands of unscrupilous criminals with no morals.

People have been developing the physical addiction for opiates because of their pharmacodynamics, not because they were illegal.

[Tully Mars]

Think this thread is still about Cambodia....currently in PP and must say it has grown on me. It's definetly a little in your face at times, dirty, and edgy, but I have really enjoyed the place and the people. Food and drink are very cheap, and while not on the same level as Thailand, I have found some great restraunts serving delicious food at a very cheap price. It will be interesting to see where this city is in the next 10-15 years....I for see a lot of development and oppurtunity.