[elabayarde]

I have to say...that I have been to Thailand. To say its tough for black dudes is nutz. I have friends(BLACK), who basically live there in there off time.

Look... dont listen to anyones speculations on what its like to be black somewhere, unless there are two conditions met..,
#1 They actually are BLACK
#2 They have been there.

Now, I agree... with many things said.

-Thai people are colorist... this is because the more tanned thai people are normally field workers, and it signifies the lower class.

-The african guys there cause problems sometime. I almost got into with 4... for cussing at me. But then i remember i had a chick on my bike... So, I thought fist fight wit some africans, or exert same energy banging this chick. So I drove off. But, people can tell the difference in US and Them... so its wasnt a problem.

So, as long as you dont look african, verses a western black, your good. But even my boys who swear by thailand are all darker than me so...that shouldn't hurt you either.

But, for someone to say dont go to thailand, if your black american is so inaccurate.

I see so much inaccurate stuff about being black here and there.

Also, I met about 6 A.A. dudes there... and they all had the same things to say. One of them epitomized every negative stereotype of hoodrats and the girls loved him. They kept asking about his cornrolls braids and stuff. But I couldnt believe his dumbass could spell Thailand, let alone make it there on a flight... so had to part ways though he knew alot of local chicks.

[WanderingSoul]

(02-13-2013 01:30 AM)elabayarde Wrote:  

I have to say...that I have been to Thailand. To say its tough for black dudes is nutz. I have friends(BLACK), who basically live there in there off time.

Look... dont listen to anyones speculations on what its like to be black somewhere, unless there are two conditions met..,
#1 They actually are BLACK
#2 They have been there.

Now, I agree... with many things said.

-Thai people are colorist... this is because the more tanned thai people are normally field workers, and it signifies the lower class.

-The african guys there cause problems sometime. I almost got into with 4... for cussing at me. But then i remember i had a chick on my bike... So, I thought fist fight wit some africans, or exert same energy banging this chick. So I drove off. But, people can tell the difference in US and Them... so its wasnt a problem.

So, as long as you dont look african, verses a western black, your good. But even my boys who swear by thailand are all darker than me so...that shouldn't hurt you either.

But, for someone to say dont go to thailand, if your black american is so inaccurate.

I see so much inaccurate stuff about being black here and there.

Also, I met about 6 A.A. dudes there... and they all had the same things to say. One of them epitomized every negative stereotype of hoodrats and the girls loved him. They kept asking about his cornrolls braids and stuff. But I couldnt believe his dumbass could spell Thailand, let alone make it there on a flight... so had to part ways though he knew alot of local chicks.

How much time did you spend in Thailand, and where (which part of town/clubs) were you/your friends picking up Thai chicks at? I'm surprised to hear that you and your friends had so much success. In nearly 11 months here I have yet to see a Thai girl who wasn't an obvious prostitute, or at the very least a poor Isaan girl, with a black guy. Of course, I haven't met or seen many Western black guys here either. The majority are Nigerians, and as you said, really ruin it for themselves.

Thai's are not just "colorist", they are also very racist. Arabs and Indians get no love from Thai people around here, and many of them are not very dark.

With my experience here, even though the blackest thing about me is my avatar, I wouldn't recommend a black guy, or Indian guy, coming to Thailand. However, if you had the opposite experience, I'd like to hear how/where you hooked up with Thai girls. I have a half black friend who lives in LA that asked me about coming here, but I wasn't too encouraging about it because I honestly don't think he will have much success. I'd like to have some info so that I could tell him otherwise.

I know this is an easy topic for people to get worked up about, but I think we can discuss this without alluding to people being racist, or somehow bringing Hitler/the holocaust into it lol.

[elabayarde]

I went to koh samui, Bankok and Pattaya. I was there only 2 weeks and like 3 notches(2 in bangkok and 1 in Pattaya. This was about 2 years ago or maybe more. I can't even remember alot, of specifics honestly being that most of the time I was drunk and not going on my own navigation. But, I will call my friends to ask specifics on where we were.

I spent most of my time with a college chick, from bangkok... because she was really fun to hang with and she kept asking me about "Chocolate Man"(Black Americans). She showed me around when I wasnt with my friends. Now, I had very tight intel from the first moment. This was before the forum, but I have friends who live there, and even one who studied the language.(which was indeed kinda weird..being that hes black)

Either way, I think is very unfair to try to tell someone not to go there to get laid. Because, i I actually got bored of bangin after a while, and had the chick show me cultural things.

Also... were they semi pros/pros... maybe. IDK
Did I pay, absolutely not. In retrospect, i should given that chick i hung with, and banged over and over something. She had her own place, but wasnt rich by a long shot. But, I had planned on staying in contact with her.

What type of game I ran....

Silly game.
One was a bartender and she liked american hip-hop. So, I taught her how to dance, and a bunch of slang from the songs...and just played around. She had a Drake CD or someone relatively new. (I THIIIINK...I'm stretching my memory btw)

The second one, was walking out of a restaurant to her motorcycle. The other american black dudes I met, were like "damn girl how you doing"(she had the sexiest legs ever).
I said, are you guys Fuckin kidding me...that doesnt even work in work in America.

The I walk over,and said

"Hey, why you want take my bike."(in my terrible thai girl accent)
"She laughed said it my bike"
"I said No No No, you its mine. You take me home, then you can have my bike...I don t want walk"(Same accent)
I got on the back and left with her...i didnt think it would actually work BTW.
The dudes were standing and look at me like no way that just worked.
She took me to my place and banged....her english was to limited to keep around.

I am paraphrasing the situation greatly and she had already eye fucked me...to keep it honest. But, I also dont remember much.

The other was my friends girlfriends...friend...lol
If that makes sense.

i think its just unfair and inaccurate to tell black americans not to go to bang girls there, because it will be tough. But, I have yet to go to a place that was as tough as many places in the US for a black guy. So thats always my reference data point. If your game isnt tight, in the US...and your not successful... you wont get laid by quality many times being black... Allegedly.(this isnt the case for me) lol
Luckily, I learn game to hack things.
Hopefully, I will go again sometime this year and drop some real data.

But, i do understand that you didnt see any couples... but remember... you just see black americans in places like that.

I saw one by himself and kinda chased him to ask what he was doing there.
Then another large group. But I know how rare that was.

We don't get treated like africans,hatians, ect. As long as they know your american. But, they can usually tell the difference in a black westerner in a heartbeat.

[pitt]

(02-13-2013 02:53 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 01:30 AM)elabayarde Wrote:  

I have to say...that I have been to Thailand. To say its tough for black dudes is nutz. I have friends(BLACK), who basically live there in there off time.

Look... dont listen to anyones speculations on what its like to be black somewhere, unless there are two conditions met..,
#1 They actually are BLACK
#2 They have been there.

Now, I agree... with many things said.

-Thai people are colorist... this is because the more tanned thai people are normally field workers, and it signifies the lower class.

-The african guys there cause problems sometime. I almost got into with 4... for cussing at me. But then i remember i had a chick on my bike... So, I thought fist fight wit some africans, or exert same energy banging this chick. So I drove off. But, people can tell the difference in US and Them... so its wasnt a problem.

So, as long as you dont look african, verses a western black, your good. But even my boys who swear by thailand are all darker than me so...that shouldn't hurt you either.

But, for someone to say dont go to thailand, if your black american is so inaccurate.

I see so much inaccurate stuff about being black here and there.

Also, I met about 6 A.A. dudes there... and they all had the same things to say. One of them epitomized every negative stereotype of hoodrats and the girls loved him. They kept asking about his cornrolls braids and stuff. But I couldnt believe his dumbass could spell Thailand, let alone make it there on a flight... so had to part ways though he knew alot of local chicks.

How much time did you spend in Thailand, and where (which part of town/clubs) were you/your friends picking up Thai chicks at? I'm surprised to hear that you and your friends had so much success. In nearly 11 months here I have yet to see a Thai girl who wasn't an obvious prostitute, or at the very least a poor Isaan girl, with a black guy. Of course, I haven't met or seen many Western black guys here either. The majority are Nigerians, and as you said, really ruin it for themselves.

Thai's are not just "colorist", they are also very racist. Arabs and Indians get no love from Thai people around here, and many of them are not very dark.

With my experience here, even though the blackest thing about me is my avatar, I wouldn't recommend a black guy, or Indian guy, coming to Thailand. However, if you had the opposite experience, I'd like to hear how/where you hooked up with Thai girls. I have a half black friend who lives in LA that asked me about coming here, but I wasn't too encouraging about it because I honestly don't think he will have much success. I'd like to have some info so that I could tell him otherwise.

I know this is an easy topic for people to get worked up about, but I think we can discuss this without alluding to people being racist, or somehow bringing Hitler/the holocaust into it lol.

At first i seriously thought you were being racist when you said you wouldnt recommend blacks and indian cats to visit Thailand but i guess you were just giving your opinion.

Anyway just few thoughts:

As elbayarde said: dont listen to anyones speculations on what its like to be black somewhere, unless there are two conditions met..,
#1 They actually are BLACK
#2 They have been there.

Also, why are you comparing straight africans with other blacks? Its obvious that they wont get the same love as black westerners. Will a white guy from eastern europe do as good as a white american in the UK? hell no.

You wont even see uk (black) born chicks messing with straight africans, i bet the same rings true for US black chicks.

Many members on this forum said the same thing about DR. I never met a black cat in DR with spanish and style that was complaining about getting ass (even nigerian cats were killing with DR women and some of these women came from wealthy families).

Let the black cats do the talk on this, seriously.

[Belize King]

My boy was out there during the holidays and smashed 3. Of course those 3 loved "chocolate". He also got into a brawl with some African cats. My boy is wild tho so he probably brought it on himself. Alot of the Brothas I met in Brazil vouched for Thailand too. Being young and black also has its advantages. Most brothas out there are 40-60.

I started to pipeline for a trip I wanted to make last May. I caught three that wanted to pick me up from the airport. My online game is pretty weak so I was surprised to get some love from the Thais.

I haven't been but the international players 6 paradises are DR, Columbia, Brazil, Thai, Eastern Europe, and the Philippines so I feel like I have to make that trip. Probably buddy pass it in June sometime.

[WanderingSoul]

El, thanks for chiming in with the other perspective. You don't meet too many black Westerners out here, so it's good to get that perspective.

pitt, it's funny to me that out of 2,000 posts you would take one post of me saying that I would not recommend blacks or Indians come to Thailand to get laid as me being racist. How is that racist? If I were to say that I don't want blacks or Indians to come to Thailand because I don't like them, that is racist. However, saying I don't think they will have so much success isn't racist, it is me giving my honest opinion to forum members contemplating coming to Thailand to chase women.

Just like I'm sure some forum members would not recommend that Turkish men go to certain countries/cities to get laid either, due to the stigma attached with them in certain parts of the world. That isn't racist. If someone said they wouldn't recommend white guys going to certain Muslim countries to bang chicks, I wouldn't brand them as racist.

Do we really need to break out the racist talk when someone is asking how blacks will do in SEA? Is it only ok to say "Blacks kill it in Thailand." or otherwise we are being racist? The guy is asking how blacks do in SEA, and if someone recommend he not go there, then he is being racist?

I'm trying to give my honest opinion after nearly 1 year in a country. Look at all of the Thailand threads and you can see I've dropped tons of helpful info and answered countless questions. I'll continue to do so, regardless of if some people happen to disagree with it. Hopefully people can disagree with stuff in a helpful manner such as El did above, as opposed to labeling them racists.

[pitt]

(02-13-2013 06:24 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

El, thanks for chiming in with the other perspective. You don't meet too many black Westerners out here, so it's good to get that perspective.

pitt, it's funny to me that out of 2,000 posts you would take one post of me saying that I would not recommend blacks or Indians come to Thailand to get laid as me being racist. How is that racist? If I were to say that I don't want blacks or Indians to come to Thailand because I don't like them, that is racist. However, saying I don't think they will have so much success isn't racist, it is me giving my honest opinion to forum members contemplating coming to Thailand to chase women.

Just like I'm sure some forum members would not recommend that Turkish men go to certain countries/cities to get laid either, due to the stigma attached with them in certain parts of the world. That isn't racist. If someone said they wouldn't recommend white guys going to certain Muslim countries to bang chicks, I wouldn't brand them as racist.

Do we really need to break out the racist talk when someone is asking how blacks will do in SEA? Is it only ok to say "Blacks kill it in Thailand." or otherwise we are being racist? The guy is asking how blacks do in SEA, and if someone recommend he not go there, then he is being racist?

I'm trying to give my honest opinion after nearly 1 year in a country. Look at all of the Thailand threads and you can see I've dropped tons of helpful info and answered countless questions. I'll continue to do so, regardless of if some people happen to disagree with it. Hopefully people can disagree with stuff in a helpful manner such as El did above, as opposed to labeling them racists.

Did you read my comment? I didnt say you were racist, i clearly said i thought you were being racist at first. Chill out man, i know you were only trying to help.

[elabayarde]

I dont think he was being racist, he was just speculating...

But, yeah the DR thing was absurd... But, because the fact that some many black dudes took speculation over testimony... i had no interest in explaining to them what THEY can get. The same reason i dont care to share, how to get a Dominican girls in the states.
and I quote the brotha Jay-z
"I aint got a beard and Santa Claus ain't Black"

It was just a bunch of whining about whats not possible. BETA!!!

Anyways...We shouldn't derail this thread. Bottom line RIO isnt racist. He was just guessing based off of comments he heard from friends there. Press on with the mission.

[NonDrifter]

I know this thread is old but I can chime un as I have a
Value to add as a black guy.

First piece of Intel I know a black who lived in thailand for many years back in the day, and he confirmed that thailand girls do enjoy black guys. So much in fact he married one and has a daughter now.

Ive met guys in mexico - white guys who told me i would have good success as a black guy in asian countries because girls there to a degree like black guys....He mentioned even china which if you listen to the hearsey is not good for brothas.Though I have heard the opposite.

I honestly think that alot of the black guys dont do well is from "white guys" who dont want black guys to start cleaning up with asian women. Will black guys maybe have sone additional hurdles to overcome....yea no shit....but the goof thing about being black is we have always had to overcome challenfes and for that we are very resilient.

My consenus is from my experience, research, and discussions from others even more recently videos from youtube, suggest that black americans who travel outside of the states who clean up well and have some degree of game will do well because we are in "demand"

I say this not to start a race war but in most of these SEA countries with the "white god factor" while it may not apply to this lot of RFVers...alot of the guys in thailand are p4p straight up and its obviously more less white people because on a whole black americans nust dont travel that much.

My opinion is if a black American can pipeline show up, dress well, be cool and distinguish self different then the p4p community he has a pretty good shot.

Also my bro did a tinder expwriment and he was getting hella matchez with sexy indonesian girls with DS lips....I think black guys are truly high in demand but low in supply in Asia. The world loves to hate us, but hates to love us.

Refernces -
black friends in thailand who got laid and married to thai women
Black friend running tinder in bali getting good results
White friends i met in my travels who specfically advised me that i would clean up nicely in parts of SEA


https://youtu.be/1GGjbLRBiXw

For whats its worth.

[seaofp]

I walked behind a black guy in pattaya once........he was getting a polarised reaction........some girls went wild with delight, others practically ran away and hid.

[Marcus187]

Asians have a very low self-esteem and are insecure as fuck.

It's just pure self-hate, so don't take it personally when they reject you because you're black. It's sad to say, but Asians who love black guys have a fetish for them or are into hiphop/urban culture. These type of girls are not the norm.