[thegmanifesto]

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quote='Hencredible Casanova' pid='354236'
First, to G's question, Rio OWNS the talent in the "tropics" category. I can't think of another city in that type of atmosphere that can touch it. It's warm year-round and girls are always showing a lot of skin. It's not like up north where girls can deceptively conceal bodily imperfections with cleverly placed clothing. It's hard to compare places directly when you see top-tier talent in both. I can say Rio has an "annual spot" on the international playboy's docket. At least one week per year visit would be ideal.

Hen,

How would you compare a straight up head to head, toe to toe, pound for pound, round for round "Battle for The Tropics", Rio de Janeiro VS South Beach?

Who wins? Draw? KO? TKO? Fight stopped by corner? Decision? How does the scorecard read?

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 10:53 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 09:55 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 09:11 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Rio is most definitely expensive. I mentioned that in my posts. That's why I said your first order of business is to see if you can crash with anyone there. The apartments are not great for what you pay for. I was actually initially going to stay with that chick in Botafogo for a few days but her a/c broke and wouldn't have gotten installed in time for my trip. She said I could still crash but I didn't want to because it was like 86 degrees in her house. My friend who I stayed with on my first Rio trip no longer lives there. Next time I go I have a friend to stay with from the States.

Airbnb has an option where you can get private rooms. Some may allow you to bring visitors. Always inquire about that. Will be cheaper for you but you won't have an entire place to yourself so that's the tradeoff.

yeah i saw some not so expensive private rooms in rio. I would stay with somebody for free but i dont know anybody there. What do you recommend, to stay in a private room or in a shared 6 bedroom at a hostel? both have pros and cons...

Personally, I'm not a hostel kind of guy. That's just not my style since I'm not a backpacker. There are some places where staying at one can be smooth (with the private room option) and not a backpacker type of scene, but I don't think Rio is one of those places. Affordable lodging is so hard to come by and people want to go there so bad that the type of folks you find in hostels will impact your trip if you're looking to have a player experience. I mean do you really want to go to Rio to hook up with dingy gringas? You could do that in far less expensive locales! So, I'd say either do the private room if it's in a decent location and they allow visitors or put off Rio for another time. What are your goals for your trip?

You can also look into this site for a whole host of options http://www.visahunter.com/travel-tips-an...ommodation

If you have a CS account, post in some of the group threads saying you're looking for an apartment. List your dates and budget. You may get some help from locals in Rio.

Ok thanks for the info. If you have to choose locations for staying in rio, what would that be?
ipanema, leblon or copacabana? barra de tijuca seems nice bat far isn'it?

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-24-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

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quote='Hencredible Casanova' pid='354236'
First, to G's question, Rio OWNS the talent in the "tropics" category. I can't think of another city in that type of atmosphere that can touch it. It's warm year-round and girls are always showing a lot of skin. It's not like up north where girls can deceptively conceal bodily imperfections with cleverly placed clothing. It's hard to compare places directly when you see top-tier talent in both. I can say Rio has an "annual spot" on the international playboy's docket. At least one week per year visit would be ideal.

Hen,

How would you compare a straight up head to head, toe to toe "Battle for The Tropics", Rio de Janeiro VS South Beach?

Who wins? Draw? KO? TKO? Fight stopped by corner? Decision? How does the scorecard read?

Technically I don't think Miami is in the tropics, it's sub-tropical, but I know what you mean.

I actually knew a guy from DC who lived in South Beach (back when I was a teenager) and who told me how crazy Rio was and how it destroys South Beach. This was before I had been to either spots.

For all of Miami's latin influence, it's still an American city (segregated, etc). I'm a grateful American but Brazilian social culture destroys ours. I don't think most people who have been to both would ever give Miami props over Rio. Compared to cities in the US, it's great, but once you're talking about actual places in Latin America, that's where the discussion ends.

But to really answer your question, we should do a rundown of different factors where each city has the advantage. Here are a few. Add any that you think I've missed.

Food: Miami

Nightlife: Miami

Safety: Miami

Activities: Rio

Women: Rio

Beach culture: Rio

Logistics: Miami

Prices: Rio

Scenery: Rio

Car culture: Miami

Fitness: Rio

The Main Strip: Rio (Avenida Atlantica is more epic to me than Ocean Drive, unless you like cars, nothing like the Dos Irmaois backdrop on a sunny day).

Cultural Diversity: Miami (communities from every Latin American country)

Events: Rio. Miami may have WMC, but that has nothing on Carnaval.

Ease of swooping: Both aren't necessarily easy, but I gotta give it to Miami because of Spring Break and lack of a language barrier.

Ease of making friends/social circle/contacts: Rio. Brazilians are extremely sociable.

Best tail: Rio (greatest bundas in the world).

High stakes action: Rio (Fountainbleau gets its props, but there's much more going down in Copacabana Palace).

Strip clubs: Rio hands down. You get to fuck the strippers.

Soul: Rio. The favelas beset by the tourist areas is a real reminder of how much of the world's problems is a battle between the haves and have nots. Rio is real. The US hides its problems. Brazil puts them in your face.

Let me know of anything else you want to consider.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-24-2013 11:11 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 10:53 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 09:55 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 09:11 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Rio is most definitely expensive. I mentioned that in my posts. That's why I said your first order of business is to see if you can crash with anyone there. The apartments are not great for what you pay for. I was actually initially going to stay with that chick in Botafogo for a few days but her a/c broke and wouldn't have gotten installed in time for my trip. She said I could still crash but I didn't want to because it was like 86 degrees in her house. My friend who I stayed with on my first Rio trip no longer lives there. Next time I go I have a friend to stay with from the States.

Airbnb has an option where you can get private rooms. Some may allow you to bring visitors. Always inquire about that. Will be cheaper for you but you won't have an entire place to yourself so that's the tradeoff.

yeah i saw some not so expensive private rooms in rio. I would stay with somebody for free but i dont know anybody there. What do you recommend, to stay in a private room or in a shared 6 bedroom at a hostel? both have pros and cons...

Personally, I'm not a hostel kind of guy. That's just not my style since I'm not a backpacker. There are some places where staying at one can be smooth (with the private room option) and not a backpacker type of scene, but I don't think Rio is one of those places. Affordable lodging is so hard to come by and people want to go there so bad that the type of folks you find in hostels will impact your trip if you're looking to have a player experience. I mean do you really want to go to Rio to hook up with dingy gringas? You could do that in far less expensive locales! So, I'd say either do the private room if it's in a decent location and they allow visitors or put off Rio for another time. What are your goals for your trip?

You can also look into this site for a whole host of options http://www.visahunter.com/travel-tips-an...ommodation

If you have a CS account, post in some of the group threads saying you're looking for an apartment. List your dates and budget. You may get some help from locals in Rio.

Ok thanks for the info. If you have to choose locations for staying in rio, what would that be?
ipanema, leblon or copacabana? barra de tijuca seems nice bat far isn'it?

Ipanema is the first choice. It's safe, upscale, not as crowded as Copa, the most popular beach is there (Posto 9) and it has great logistics (btwn Copa and Leblon). The Arpoador is also there. Lots of chicks passing through as well. Just a great place to be.

Leblon is the most upscale out of all of them but too reclusive (and the people there want to keep it that way). I would compare it to Coronado in San Diego. They have a nice mall though and some decent places to grub. A lot of the high society live there. I would check it out at night but I wouldn't stay there.

Copacabana is too urban for me. It's a good place to stay for logistics but Ipanema is much more pleasant. It also has like 6 or 7 favelas so it's the least safest of them all. Most of the lodging in Rio is there however so it's the most accessible place. I'd stay there if I couldn't come up on something in Ipanema but try to stay in the part closest to Ipanema.

Barra de Tijuca is nice. A really good club called Nuth is there. Good place to go on Sundays. But it's not the best place for logistics because you're on the other side of the mountain from Leblon, Ipanema and Copacabana.

[thegmanifesto]

Great comparison Hen. Thanks.

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compared to cities in the US, it's great, but once you're talking about actual places in Latin America, that's where the discussion ends.

Yeah, this is why I asked. I am surprised to say it but I think Miami is better than any of the cities I have been to in Central or South America.

One reason is the diversity of women.

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Prices: Rio

Is this because it is cheaper? Is it cheaper?

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Fitness: Rio

This is impressive since I think South Beach is #1 in America. I think it is even more fitness conscious than Southern California.

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Women: Rio

How about when you factor in the diversity of Miami ie macking on a Hungarian, Russian, Estonian, Cubana, Portena, Brazilian and Calena and you haven't even sat down yet for dinner?

What about the model factor of Miami?

Still go with Rio?

Is this a straight KO? or a Razor thin Split decision?

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Nightlife: Miami

This is interesting too. But I am guessing Rio's nightlife is nothing to sneeze at. Are there clubs going off 7 days a week in Rio till 4-5am?

Also, what about Art?

Architecture?

[Hencredible Casanova]

[quote='thegmanifesto' pid='355093' dateline='1359047360']
Great comparison Hen. Thanks.

[quote] Yeah, this is why I asked. I am surprised to say it but I think Miami is better than any of the cities I have been to in Central or South America.

One reason is the diversity of women. [/quote]

Miami is definitely better than anything in Central America, no question. As for South America, I don't know. Venezuela is well-known for its beautiful women (lots of Miss Universes). Colombia is also bringing heat. Argentina has some damn fine women, especially Rosario and Cordoba. Brazil does as well. With Brazil, you have lots of racial mixing over its history so you see many very exotic women.

[quote]Prices: Rio

Is this because it is cheaper? Is it cheaper?[/quote]

I was mainly talking about going out. The Real to the Dollar is 2:1 right now. Going out in Rio is definitely cheaper than Sobe. When you factor in cover charges, drink prices, etc Rio is MUCH cheaper.

[quote]Fitness: Rio

This is impressive since I think South Beach is #1 in America. I think it is even more fitness conscious than Southern California.[/quote]

Yeah I have no doubt about this one. Cariocas (residents in Rio) are very serious about their fitness game. Gyms are everywhere and people are always working out on the beach. They have a gym literally on the beach near Posto 10. Calisthenics stations are everywhere. They even have a sport they invented called footvolley which is basically volleyball without using your hands. You can only use your head, chest or legs. Anytime I've seen people playing this they were insanely ripped. I'm talking 8-packs, forget about 6.

[quote]Women: Rio

How about when you factor in the diversity of Miami ie macking on a Hungarian, Russian, Estonian, Cubana, Portena, Brazilian and Calena and you haven't even sat down yet for dinner?

What about the model factor of Miami?

Still go with Rio?

Is this a straight KO? or a Razor thin Split decision?[/quote]

Split decision. I still go with Rio because Brazil is diverse like the US as well and they have FAR more racial mixing. Many supermodels are Brazilian and those genes that gave birth to them have made their way to Rio. Rio is also the center of Brazil's television and film industry. There's also a huge market for sex tourism which attracts a lot of high end tail. Rio still wins. The girls are more accessible than Sobe as well.

Nightlife, easily Miami. Miami is one of those spots like Vegas and NYC where clubs go off til' the am and there's stuff to do many nights out of the week. Rio isn't like that. They have that California 2am thing going on. Venues are hit or miss and they just aren't as organized. Rio is also very casual. It's not the place to wear a suit. You could probably get into most places wearing nice looking gym clothes, no lie.

Sao Paulo is far better for nightlife. It's a work hard, play hard city. They have lists, covers, specific venues for different niches, etc.

As for art/architecture, Sobe wins hands downs. Lots of the buildings in Rio are rundown or antiquated. Not too many modern structures. The Art Deco section of Sobe is nice. Rio's strength is its spectacular natural setting, not the architecture.

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 12:23 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Great comparison Hen. Thanks.

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Yeah, this is why I asked. I am surprised to say it but I think Miami is better than any of the cities I have been to in Central or South America.

One reason is the diversity of women.

Miami is definitely better than anything in Central America, no question. As for South America, I don't know. Venezuela is well-known for its beautiful women (lots of Miss Universes). Colombia is also bringing heat. Argentina has some damn fine women, especially Rosario and Cordoba. Brazil does as well. With Brazil, you have lots of racial mixing over its history so you see many very exotic women.

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Prices: Rio

Is this because it is cheaper? Is it cheaper?

I was mainly talking about going out. The Real to the Dollar is 2:1 right now. Going out in Rio is definitely cheaper than Sobe. When you factor in cover charges, drink prices, etc Rio is MUCH cheaper.

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Fitness: Rio

This is impressive since I think South Beach is #1 in America. I think it is even more fitness conscious than Southern California.

Yeah I have no doubt about this one. Cariocas (residents in Rio) are very serious about their fitness game. Gyms are everywhere and people are always working out on the beach. They have a gym literally on the beach near Posto 10. Calisthenics stations are everywhere. They even have a sport they invented called footvolley which is basically volleyball without using your hands. You can only use your head, chest or legs. Anytime I've seen people playing this they were insanely ripped. I'm talking 8-packs, forget about 6.

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Women: Rio

How about when you factor in the diversity of Miami ie macking on a Hungarian, Russian, Estonian, Cubana, Portena, Brazilian and Calena and you haven't even sat down yet for dinner?

What about the model factor of Miami?

Still go with Rio?

Is this a straight KO? or a Razor thin Split decision?

Split decision. I still go with Rio because Brazil is diverse like the US as well and they have FAR more racial mixing. Many supermodels are Brazilian and those genes that gave birth to them have made their way to Rio. Rio is also the center of Brazil's television and film industry. There's also a huge market for sex tourism which attracts a lot of high end tail. Rio still wins. The girls are more accessible than Sobe as well.

Nightlife, easily Miami. Miami is one of those spots like Vegas and NYC where clubs go off til' the am and there's stuff to do many nights out of the week. Rio isn't like that. They have that California 2am thing going on. Venues are hit or miss and they just aren't as organized. Rio is also very casual. It's not the place to wear a suit. You could probably get into most places wearing nice looking gym clothes, no lie.

Sao Paulo is far better for nightlife. It's a work hard, play hard city. They have lists, covers, specific venues for different niches, etc.

As for art/architecture, Sobe wins hands downs. Lots of the buildings in Rio are rundown or antiquated. Not too many modern structures. The Art Deco section of Sobe is nice. Rio's strength is its spectacular natural setting, not the architecture.

Interesting, i have been to florida and california before, and this post seems familiar with the Socal/Miami eternal discussion. For me Socal blows Miami out of the water, i would like to see how it measures against Rio de Janeiro..

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 12:23 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Nightlife, easily Miami. Miami is one of those spots like Vegas and NYC where clubs go off til' the am and there's stuff to do many nights out of the week. Rio isn't like that. They have that California 2am thing going on. Venues are hit or miss and they just aren't as organized. Rio is also very casual. It's not the place to wear a suit. You could probably get into most places wearing nice looking gym clothes, no lie.

Ouch on the 2am thing. No one ever mentions that.

I would love to visit Rio one day, but it sounds like South Beach is more my steez. Thanks for the well measured, even handed breakdown. Invaluable.

(01-24-2013 12:39 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Interesting, i have been to florida and california before, and this post seems familiar with the Socal/Miami eternal discussion. For me Socal blows Miami out of the water, i would like to see how it measures against Rio de Janeiro..

Not to derail the thread, but I am curious as to why you like Southern California more than South Florida. Or LA, OC, SD more than Miami.

[Hencredible Casanova]

No problem man. It's really apple and oranges though. Rio is a great place to visit and is one of the most unique cities in the world. Rio has more to keep you busy and stimulated than Miami. Most people get bored of just partying in Sobe after a few days. Rio is more complex. Even Mixx seemed to be tired of Miami and spent a lot of time going back and forth to Colombia. He was always warning guys against moving to Miami long-term.

What Miami does have going for it is the convenience factor of living in the US (first world services), diverse latin (and european) culture, tons of chicks, and geographical proximity to many points in Latin America & The Caribbean. That makes it better as a "home base" if you have the mobility to travel around. Rio is better to visit though.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 01:13 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

No problem man. It's really apple and oranges though. Rio is a great place to visit and is one of the most unique cities in the world. Rio has more to keep you busy and stimulated than Miami. Most people get bored of just partying in Sobe after a few days. Rio is more complex. Even Mixx seemed to be tired of Miami and spent a lot of time going back and forth to Colombia. He was always warning guys against moving to Miami long-term.

What Miami does have going for it is the convenience factor of living in the US (first world services), diverse latin (and european) culture, tons of chicks, and geographical proximity to many points in Latin American & The Caribbean. That makes it better as a "home base" if you have the mobility to travel around. Rio is better to visit though.

Yeah, so much of this comes down to perspective.

It depends if you are talking a weekend, a week, a month, 5 months or home base.

Each of those are different things and should be kept in context.

Also, a guy like Mixx was in Miami for 20 years or more. It is easy to get jaded on a place after that kind of time frame. Hell, I got jaded with California. Whereas someone on their first week in Santa Monica or La Jolla might be doing backflips.

Also, I don't think Mixx had ever been to California, whereas I have and that is what I compare Miami to.

So that perspective is very different as well.

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 01:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 12:23 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Nightlife, easily Miami. Miami is one of those spots like Vegas and NYC where clubs go off til' the am and there's stuff to do many nights out of the week. Rio isn't like that. They have that California 2am thing going on. Venues are hit or miss and they just aren't as organized. Rio is also very casual. It's not the place to wear a suit. You could probably get into most places wearing nice looking gym clothes, no lie.

Ouch on the 2am thing. No one ever mentions that.

I would love to visit Rio one day, but it sounds like South Beach is more my steez. Thanks for the well measured, even handed breakdown. Invaluable.

(01-24-2013 12:39 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Interesting, i have been to florida and california before, and this post seems familiar with the Socal/Miami eternal discussion. For me Socal blows Miami out of the water, i would like to see how it measures against Rio de Janeiro..

Not to derail the thread, but I am curious as to why you like Southern California more than South Florida. Or LA, OC, SD more than Miami.

easy, i liked miami a lot but i felt that it was a city that didnt offer too much to do or see. Socal has much more to offer IMHO...
Keep in mind that when is say "Miami" i refer to Miami Beach. Miami city proper
sucks, (although brickell is nice)

[speakeasy]

For some reason I thought Gmanifesto had been to Rio. That's like a required destination right off the bat to any international playboy.

As for the Miami Beach vs Socal comparison, MB would get old quick whereas Socal has enough other things going on to keep you occupied other than going to the beach and partying. Even just geographically, Florida is a boring state. No mountains, no hills, no variety in scenery. No real outdoors culture. Wanna go skiing or mountain biking, good luck. Cali blows Florida out of the water on all fronts other than nightlife and ease of access to Europe/S. America.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I agree. Not to derail this thread, but California is the coolest state by far. No state remotely comes close. Miami definitely gets old quick. I'm pretty much burned out after 3-4 days in Sobe. The main thing I don't like about CA is its isolation from the rest of the country and the world. You've got to spend at least a few hours on a plane to get anywhere.

Also, Rio is most definitely a required stop for the international playboy. Very necessary. Top place in all of Latin America.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 02:13 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

For some reason I thought Gmanifesto had been to Rio. That's like a required destination right off the bat to any international playboy.

Yeah, I don't speak Portuguese.

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Cali blows Florida out of the water on all fronts other than nightlife and ease of access to Europe/S. America

Not all fronts.

Unless you consider paying an extra 10% in taxes a benefit.

Or not being able to get a drink after 2am.

Or not having the freedom of choice to smoke or not.

And South Beach alone destroys CA on the girl front. South Beach alone destroys whole California cities and whole California counties, not to mention a similar sized equivalent. Hell, the Publix, the Whole Foods and airport in Miami alone destroys whole cities in California.

Unless you need to surf or ski everyday CA, makes zero sense. And Miami is a pretty damn quick plane ride to Costa Rica or Panama for that.

I just wanted to put in my $200 on this one, I don't want to derail the thread as we have debated this one on here a lot.

[jariel]

Thanks HC for this excellent thread.

[speakeasy]

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Anyway, not to derail the thread. Having been to both Rio and Miami, I don't think there's any comparison in overall experience. Mardi Gras might be the closest thing in the U.S. to a good night out in Lapa.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Are you going to compare FT lauderdale with San Diego? are you serious?
I mean really, comparing florida to california is just nonsense, you cant beat what the 12th biggest economy in the world can offer in terms of variety and opportunities with just beaches and nightlife...

[kenny_powers]

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? That's crazy talk. Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

But are you drunk? Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

Indeed

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

But are you drunk? Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

Easy.

More girls than guys in Fort Lauderdale.

More guys than girls in San Diego.

Girls in mostly high heels and skirts in Fort Lauderdale.

Girls in flip flops and Ugg boots and jeans in San Diego.

5am last call in Fort Lauderdale.

1:30am last call in San Diego.

Direct 2:30 hour flights to Colombia from Fort Lauderdale.

20 hour flights to Colombia from San Diego.

0% State tax in Fort Lauderdale.

10% State tax in San Diego.

Shall I continue?

Have you lived in both?

How many years?

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Are you going to compare FT lauderdale with San Diego? are you serious?
I mean really, comparing florida to california is just nonsense, you cant beat what the 12th biggest economy in the world can offer in terms of variety and opportunities with just beaches and nightlife...

What are these "varieties" you speak of?

How many years have you lived in both?

I can tell by the way you write, you have never lived in California.

Have you even been there? For a week?

If you guys want to continue this discussion, we can do so over here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9545.html

I don't want to derail Hen's thread on Rio now that it people have shifted it from Rio VS South Beach (applicable) to South Beach VS CA (not applicable).

[Brosemite]

(01-24-2013 04:25 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

But are you drunk? Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

Indeed

Depends on the context. Was The G Manifesto referring to chances of hooking up or overall lifestyle? I wanna know as a reference cause I've never been to any of those places, haha.

[Hencredible Casanova]

Lets just bury the talk about Florida or California. It's already derailing a good thread about Rio.

[Brosemite]

(01-24-2013 05:38 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Lets just bury the talk about Florida or California. It's already derailing a good thread about Rio.

I concur. Great testimony about these last few days spent in Rio.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 05:38 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Lets just bury the talk about Florida or California. It's already derailing a good thread about Rio.

See above.

I took the initiative to move it.

For the record, I wasn't the one who brought California into the discussion.