[slothpiece]

(08-23-2013 06:13 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

what if all the guys who are complaining about the girls listed the last three spots they went to to see/meet women. then we'd have some idea of what we're dealing with here.

I mentioned mine above:

Bar at Le Diplomatte
Lounge at B Too
Passenger

I also see plenty of attractive women at both the P St Whole Foods and the GW Whole Foods.

Heh. Last Friday, I decided to check out the Donovan House rooftop. Upon my entrance as soon as I got off the elevator, I did one quick walkaround and right back down the elevator to the lobby. There were no less than 50 guys there with about 3 DC 6s sitting by themselves. I then went to Marvin's. It was here where I feasted my eyes again on a bunch of DC 6s and proceeded to pound shots to the dome to make me forget why I returned to this place after an unsuccessful run in Florida.

Has anyone ever gotten into Capella's rooftop in Georgetown without being a guest of the hotel? What is the scene like up there? They have a sweet-looking pool overlooking Georgetown that I could envision busting my load in.

[TheBMan]

Never been to Capellas but the Graham Rooftop is decent.

[Kish]

(08-23-2013 04:36 PM)slothpiece Wrote:  

There were no less than 50 guys there with about 3 DC 6s sitting by themselves.

ONLY in DC can an expensive hotel bar have a ratio like that.

[competence]

(08-23-2013 06:13 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

what if all the guys who are complaining about the girls listed the last three spots they went to to see/meet women. then we'd have some idea of what we're dealing with here.

I mentioned mine above:

Bar at Le Diplomatte
Lounge at B Too
Passenger

I also see plenty of attractive women at both the P St Whole Foods and the GW Whole Foods.

I suppose our tastes differ. I don't like women who are larger than size 4. I usually aim for petite, tall, & blonde or latina brunettes, who are thin and at least 5'6. I'm very picky, and I've gotten my way for sometime now that I just won't go out of my way!

[paninaro]

(08-23-2013 03:00 AM)Akula Wrote:  

From your post, it seems that you might have access to a certain higher end social circle of people that tend to be a little more attractive than the average Washingtonian, so maybe you are in a little bit of a bubble.

I guess for me, looking back on my past experiences, it comes down to this: the DC scene is all about social circles and house parties. The bar/club scene sucks in terms of meeting women. As others have said, the ratios are pretty bad. My friend dragged me to Cities a few months ago and the ratios were horrible.

However, at the house party we just came from, the ratios and selection were great. It could just be my friends (who are less gov't workers and more in international development and private industry), but the people there were dressed well, including the women. There weren't any 10's, but plenty of 5's-8's and no 2's. You could also have a decent conversation with the people there (I'm not into the ditzy types).

Again, that's just my experience, and I suppose it does come down a lot to social circle in my case.

[Akula]

(08-23-2013 10:11 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 03:00 AM)Akula Wrote:  

From your post, it seems that you might have access to a certain higher end social circle of people that tend to be a little more attractive than the average Washingtonian, so maybe you are in a little bit of a bubble.

I guess for me, looking back on my past experiences, it comes down to this: the DC scene is all about social circles and house parties. The bar/club scene sucks in terms of meeting women. As others have said, the ratios are pretty bad. My friend dragged me to Cities a few months ago and the ratios were horrible.

However, at the house party we just came from, the ratios and selection were great. It could just be my friends (who are less gov't workers and more in international development and private industry), but the people there were dressed well, including the women. There weren't any 10's, but plenty of 5's-8's and no 2's. You could also have a decent conversation with the people there (I'm not into the ditzy types).

Again, that's just my experience, and I suppose it does come down a lot to social circle in my case.

Ah ha! So it's more social circle game for you, interesting. I would think that in DC the ability to enter many social circles is a little more doable since there are so many different types of transplants from other parts of the world. I mean you've got diplomats, US government workers, lawyers, politicos, embassy staff, lawyers, the high-tech crowd, etc. Would assume it's not easy, but you've got more bites at the apple. The bar scene is clearly pretty abysmal and relying on that would be a nightmare.

[TheBMan]

(08-26-2013 01:56 AM)Akula Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 10:11 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 03:00 AM)Akula Wrote:  

From your post, it seems that you might have access to a certain higher end social circle of people that tend to be a little more attractive than the average Washingtonian, so maybe you are in a little bit of a bubble.

I guess for me, looking back on my past experiences, it comes down to this: the DC scene is all about social circles and house parties. The bar/club scene sucks in terms of meeting women. As others have said, the ratios are pretty bad. My friend dragged me to Cities a few months ago and the ratios were horrible.

However, at the house party we just came from, the ratios and selection were great. It could just be my friends (who are less gov't workers and more in international development and private industry), but the people there were dressed well, including the women. There weren't any 10's, but plenty of 5's-8's and no 2's. You could also have a decent conversation with the people there (I'm not into the ditzy types).

Again, that's just my experience, and I suppose it does come down a lot to social circle in my case.

Ah ha! So it's more social circle game for you, interesting. I would think that in DC the ability to enter many social circles is a little more doable since there are so many different types of transplants from other parts of the world. I mean you've got diplomats, US government workers, lawyers, politicos, embassy staff, lawyers, the high-tech crowd, etc. Would assume it's not easy, but you've got more bites at the apple. The bar scene is clearly pretty abysmal and relying on that would be a nightmare.

typically the only way into those social circles is to work in those industries, which can make it difficult

[BCZalgyris]

(08-26-2013 06:26 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 01:56 AM)Akula Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 10:11 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 03:00 AM)Akula Wrote:  

From your post, it seems that you might have access to a certain higher end social circle of people that tend to be a little more attractive than the average Washingtonian, so maybe you are in a little bit of a bubble.

I guess for me, looking back on my past experiences, it comes down to this: the DC scene is all about social circles and house parties. The bar/club scene sucks in terms of meeting women. As others have said, the ratios are pretty bad. My friend dragged me to Cities a few months ago and the ratios were horrible.

However, at the house party we just came from, the ratios and selection were great. It could just be my friends (who are less gov't workers and more in international development and private industry), but the people there were dressed well, including the women. There weren't any 10's, but plenty of 5's-8's and no 2's. You could also have a decent conversation with the people there (I'm not into the ditzy types).

Again, that's just my experience, and I suppose it does come down a lot to social circle in my case.

Ah ha! So it's more social circle game for you, interesting. I would think that in DC the ability to enter many social circles is a little more doable since there are so many different types of transplants from other parts of the world. I mean you've got diplomats, US government workers, lawyers, politicos, embassy staff, lawyers, the high-tech crowd, etc. Would assume it's not easy, but you've got more bites at the apple. The bar scene is clearly pretty abysmal and relying on that would be a nightmare.

typically the only way into those social circles is to work in those industries, which can make it difficult

Getting into those social circles is awfully hard and unlike college where you have streets with blocks full of sororities/frat houses hosting house parties every friday/sat night you rarely see any of that in DC. I work for a large UN organization in International Development here in DC and I've never heard of any of my co-workers and even interns/consultants hosting a house party that was anything bigger than a small gathering. SO, bars & clubs it is. Last Friday night I hit the following 5 places:

W Hotel Rooftop
Beacon Hotel Rooftop
Mari Vanna (new Russian themed Restaurant on Conn. Ave., desperately wants to be as popular as Russia House)
18th Street Lounge
Meeting Place (my buddy and I were the only white guys in this place that night)

Only one of those places had a good ratio and that was The Meeting Place...unbeknownst to us it was some black guy's birthday/karaoke party so while the ratio was awesome it was 95% sista's so my buddy and I made no approaches there.

Mari Vanna totally sucked and had almost no single women (all mixed groups/couples) in its third floor "club" while W Hotel was just average however I attribute that to early start time (7pm) and my game their sucked as I wasn't buzzed and just couldn't pull anything out of all the approaches I made. Beacon hotel had bad ratio but night turned out to be OK as I was able to chat with a hot Redhead for a while and get her digits. 18 street lounge was same ol', too many people and bitch shields galore. "Highlight of the night" was stopping by McD's on M street at 2AM, getting a big Mac and unsuccessfully hollering at an HB9 who was on her cellphone.

Damn how I miss beautiful Ukraine...one month back and I am already depressed by DCs atmosphere.

[paninaro]

(08-26-2013 07:40 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

Getting into those social circles is awfully hard and unlike college where you have streets with blocks full of sororities/frat houses hosting house parties every friday/sat night you rarely see any of that in DC. I work for a large UN organization in International Development here in DC and I've never heard of any of my co-workers and even interns/consultants hosting a house party that was anything bigger than a small gathering.

I think you may have more ways into the social circles than you realize. If you're in Development, then you have the inside track on all the embassy social events, World Bank happy hours, etc. Back in my day, the World Bank happy hours on Friday night were an excellent way to make new contacts. There are always new people cycling in and out of places like that (since they come on contracts) = always new people eager to make friends. I think WB got a bit tougher on letting "strangers" in for security reasons, but probably you can work your Development connection to find a WB employee to put you on the list.

Another approach not related to that field is I just made friends with guys here and there (networking events, etc) and just expanded my social circle and got to know lots of people from lots of different groups. Eventually, I got to a point where it would be difficult to find a Friday or Saturday when I didn't know of at least one house party going on.

I dunno, maybe one tactic is to just try to expand your contact network really wide, even if it's guys.. kind of the approach everyone does in the first few weeks of college where everyone is new and you're friends with everyone. I think even a month of doing that could pay off in terms of widely expanded social circles.

Once you're in the house party circuit, you're golden. Opening is super-easy since you're "safe" (you have some tenuous connection to the host after all), and there should be plenty to choose from. It's DC, so you still won't be finding many 9's or 10's, but there are still plenty of 6's and 7's on offer.

[BCZalgyris]

(08-26-2013 11:15 PM)paninaro Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 07:40 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

Getting into those social circles is awfully hard and unlike college where you have streets with blocks full of sororities/frat houses hosting house parties every friday/sat night you rarely see any of that in DC. I work for a large UN organization in International Development here in DC and I've never heard of any of my co-workers and even interns/consultants hosting a house party that was anything bigger than a small gathering.

I think you may have more ways into the social circles than you realize. If you're in Development, then you have the inside track on all the embassy social events, World Bank happy hours, etc. Back in my day, the World Bank happy hours on Friday night were an excellent way to make new contacts. There are always new people cycling in and out of places like that (since they come on contracts) = always new people eager to make friends. I think WB got a bit tougher on letting "strangers" in for security reasons, but probably you can work your Development connection to find a WB employee to put you on the list.

Another approach not related to that field is I just made friends with guys here and there (networking events, etc) and just expanded my social circle and got to know lots of people from lots of different groups. Eventually, I got to a point where it would be difficult to find a Friday or Saturday when I didn't know of at least one house party going on.

I dunno, maybe one tactic is to just try to expand your contact network really wide, even if it's guys.. kind of the approach everyone does in the first few weeks of college where everyone is new and you're friends with everyone. I think even a month of doing that could pay off in terms of widely expanded social circles.

Once you're in the house party circuit, you're golden. Opening is super-easy since you're "safe" (you have some tenuous connection to the host after all), and there should be plenty to choose from. It's DC, so you still won't be finding many 9's or 10's, but there are still plenty of 6's and 7's on offer.

I've been to many of those WB happy hours & embassy events where I even spoke the local language (Ukrainian Embassy, Lithuanian Embassy, Kazakh embassy) however I find it very difficult to meet women their, as many people tend to be formal and don't completely open up as they have their co-workers with them. Even when I did approaches in Russian at the Kazakh embassy only thing it generated was a smile and nothing more. These happy hours are not always in optimal places. I have pretty much given up on DC so right now while I "bitch" on these forums I am also saving up money to constantly travel overseas.

[Hencredible Casanova]

Anyone hit the final Jazz in the Garden of the summer? I'm sure it was insanely packed, overpriced and douchey. A chick invited me out with her crew but I wasn't up for it. Had other things I wanted to do instead.

[competence]

(08-30-2013 07:55 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Anyone hit the final Jazz in the Garden of the summer? I'm sure it was insanely packed, overpriced and douchey. A chick invited me out with her crew but I wasn't up for it. Had other things I wanted to do instead.

So....About the Jazz Garden on Friday's. Perfect place to go, of course, with your crew. As far as people being happy going there, with pitchers of sangria or beer in hand, they are still married to their circle of friends they arrived with.

I do have to admit, when I go, I go with a group of friends, ladies included. It is fun to down pitches of Sangria(we spike ours ) and chill. I consider it a great starter to Friday night shenanigans, considering it is a 5-8pm thing.

If you score here, then I'm not sure wtf you did, but it was certainly luck of the draw because these girls that move to DC think they need to uphold a special standard because they live in the Capital of the USA...

Nonetheless, it is a great scene. If you want to nail a chick, you'll be blanket hopping, or just buy pitchers of Sangria and be that guy!

Better off going to Adam's Morgan or NE DC to nail some Feminist, hippy/hipster, or some nonprofit working type of dud. Maybe she'll buy you a fair trade, gluten free, caged eggs.