[EasyMoney]

I have a friend who is a natural and is now starting to study game and his approach is that a little affection is fine. You've got to keep your frame strong and not be a sappy faggot though. There's a big difference.

I woke up saturday morning with a cute girl in my bed that i had had banged the night before and when I woke up I smiled at her and kissed her and was just generally nice to her - I let her know that I was happy she was in my bed. I didn't act like a cold prick. I asked her how she was feeling, if she wanted some water or some tea, if she was cold/warm blah blah.

After about 10 mins though I started to tease her a little, got her to call me an asshole and jab me in the arm and I thought ok thats the perfect blend of sweetness with the cockiness that they respond to. Then I said I have a huge piece of morning wood and as I slipped my finger into her pussy I asked her if she liked morning sex. "Absolutely" was her response.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I disagree with most of the commenters in this thread. Since this woman openly admitted she didn't like nice guys you're giving her what she does want: a "not nice" guy, replete with the drama and self-loathing that goes along with one.

I've noticed over the years that a lot of women like to have their lives in a state of emotional fray. It makes them feel alive. The extremist example of this is the woman goes for abusive guy after abusive guy. This woman is probably just your average "drama slut" though.

Once you start with the compliments on these types of women, they feel "placated" and will go elsewhere for their fix of drama. They WANT to feel unhappy in some respects. You did the right thing, IMO.

If you really feel the need to compliment her, make it about you: "I like the way you strip for me." "I like it when you're naked, so get naked now."

Conclusion: we need to stop thinking women are like us. A lot of the things men base their lives around, like accomplishing something and then kicking back for drama-free fun time have NOTHING to do with women. A lot of women are happiest stirring things up or being stirred up. Being the kind of guy who scratches their backs via "compliments" (gag) will have you OUT of the game.

[ryanf]

(01-14-2013 11:41 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Fisto's response for sure

"You're so cute when you're demanding" with a slight smirk/grin.

Overall though, aloof is just more about doing what you want not necessarily about always being "hard willed".

As a last note, saying you don't want to lose her is a dangerous step in the wrong direction of dreaded monogamy.

I don't mind losing *her*, per say. I just like the guaranteed once a week sex, regardless of who. It actually gives me more of a "who gives a shit" attitude on weekends when I go out approaching. I can do without, especially if there is any more headache. I haven't sacrificed any weekend nights to her. So the plates keep spinning.

[rationalize_this]

I've said this on many occasions and will reiterate again.

Being aloof, flaking, and generally having a devil may care attitude shouldn't be an objective, but a CONSEQUENCE.


Your time is valuable. You choose to fill it with WHO and WHAT you want, WHEN you want.
Make moves, live your life by this motto, and I guarantee girls will pick up this vibe from you subconsciously and be more than grateful for the time they have with you.

It should be hard to keep up with the amount of whatsapp, skype calls, texts, phone calls, voicemails, emails you are getting from girls. As a result, some will invariably be neglected. If they give you any reason not to respond, don't.

You're the prize. The more you put up with, the longer leash you are giving her to wrap around you later...

[ryanf]

Update: I went over her place last night, had a great time, we drank, had fun, pretty much exactly like our other (successful) nights. I made sure not to overgame or overtease, just running solid game, and we were having a great time. At the end of the night, we were going up to her room, making out, getting a little hot and heavy, and as soon as I went to pull down her panties, she shut me down. I thought she was just playing around at first, but after a few more attempts, she got serious and said "it's not going to happen." I just gave her a quick neutral look, followed by a shrug, and gathered my things and left. She said to text her when I got home to let her know I was safe. Little does she know that's the last she'll be hearing from me.

Next.

[DarkTriad]

(01-13-2013 06:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 08:19 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 08:16 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

She wants to know she is more to you than a fuck. A cheesy compliment would not hurt you and keep the ball rolling.

I'm willing to give a little, but I'm worried about supplicating by giving it to her after she made a big mess about it. How should I go about giving in a little?

I have known a lot of cool guys in my life that do very well with women.

There is not a single one of those guys that uses the word "supplicating".

And I can promise you that none of them have ever worried about "supplicating".

I would venture to bet that most of them don't even know what "supplicating" is.

But every recovering Herb does. It's all he's ever known. Ryan wasnt born one of the "cool kids"...but he is going to die one. Because he's putting in the work and asking the right questions.