Quote: (04-19-2010 01:25 AM)GermanDude Wrote:
Ive never looked much into the whole 'game' thing ..other than the basics of course...
Are (some of) you guys really that good at it that picking up truly hot women comes as simple as that?
hope this doesnt sound conceited, but i seem to be fairly good-looking (and usually catch the interest of the hotties) - at this (early) stage in my life. However, admittedly im a bit self-conscious (yup ill admit it) to how thatll look in 10 years from now. Maybe my hair will thin, maybe Ill put on some weight (Im into working out so hopefully not too soon), I might need glasses who knows -aging you know lol.
Can a "skilled" guy with say average looks truly pull HB9s and HB10s at relative ease?
Haha...this is a funny question to answer, as I guess 'ease' is relative. Also, I'm no George Clooney is smoothness nor looks. Therefore, his "with ease" would be a lot easier than my "with ease".
This is my current perspective as, I suspect, is the current perspective of most guys on the board:
Its a numbers game, and a 'fear' game. Conquer both, and almost any guy will have a relatively easy time picking up hot women with consistency, as long as he takes the time to learn some other basics of psychology relevant to dealing with women. Get the fear conquered, the psychology basics down and just be resigned to the fact that not every woman will respond to you, hot or not, but many will, hot or not. In the end, hot or not, women are women. As a group, they tend to be fairly uniform in what they respond to and what they do not. Once you realize this, the hot women aren't much harder than women with lesser looks.
The only difference tends to be that guys tend to show more fear around hot women, which does illicit a worse response from them. Therefore, guys think hot women are harder. In reality, its the guys increased fear, and the resultant different way that they act around hot women, thats the problem. There are some resources that members of this board can recommend in that psychology arena. Just don't get caught up in learning everything that has ever been written about 'game', because you will then have a lot of noise to slog through. Try cutting to the chase through boards like this.
Looks will get you the interview, but it isn't enough to land the job (usually - there are always exceptions). I know, as my brother is classically good looking and I am not (although I'm not hideous either). I see what he gets and I know what I get. Guys with lesser looks just become more linguistically adept at getting a womans interest. Like fat girls, they are forced to become more interesting, cool and confident. Once you have a womans attention, you are more or less on the same ground as better looking guys, barring any socially crippling physical deformity. Usually the better personality will win out. However, there are exceptions to the rule which, more often than not, result from a small percentage of women having an insecure need for validation over every other thing. A lot of these women aren't the hot ones, anyway. Hot women tend to know they are hot, and therefore don't need a 'hot' guy to validate them.
Although you have some looks now, don't use them as a crutch. Force yourself to become more interesting, psychologically better with women and work on becoming a better man NOW when you have the advantage of youth, free time and energy. That way, if you lose your looks, it won't matter much and you won't care, as women will still pose little problem for you.
Apropos of the original post, I find that women outside of the USA tend to be easier / more enjoyable to pick up for me in almost every country that I've visited (Europe / Asia / Latin America). Although, I can easily pick up in the USA with the aforementioned mindsets. While there may many reasons for this, I believe, I find foreign women more open to classic man women dynamics / seduction vs the power games that many women insist on here in the states. I tend to connect with the personalities of foreign women more, due to their frequently better education, adherence to classic relationship dynamics and femininity. I usually get women to bed in the USA fast, once I get a date, but its less enjoyable overall. Therefore, my statement about how it doesn't matter where you go, as far as women are concerned, as once you get good with women in general, the world is your oyster.